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Please Remember to Advocate for your rabbit

100% agree with you. I have just lost my beloved Flo at only 18 months old. She had a weeks rip off treatment at one vet, and they seemed so clinical, and their answer to her deteriorating condition was that I either had to put her to sleep or go to a specialist. £600 they charged me and could not tell me what was the problem. Within 24 hours at a new vet, Cheshire Pet, she had a poo smear, diagnosed with a couple of probs, and was eating a few greens and pooping better. Sadly although they tried ever so hard to help her she died yesterday with her beloved Panda cuddled up to her. The difference in attitudes between the two vets was amazing. You really need a vet who understands rabbits and will fit with you for your pets health and life, not just write them off.
 
100% agree with you. I have just lost my beloved Flo at only 18 months old. She had a weeks rip off treatment at one vet, and they seemed so clinical, and their answer to her deteriorating condition was that I either had to put her to sleep or go to a specialist. £600 they charged me and could not tell me what was the problem. Within 24 hours at a new vet, Cheshire Pet, she had a poo smear, diagnosed with a couple of probs, and was eating a few greens and pooping better. Sadly although they tried ever so hard to help her she died yesterday with her beloved Panda cuddled up to her. The difference in attitudes between the two vets was amazing. You really need a vet who understands rabbits and will fit with you for your pets health and life, not just write them off.

I'm so sorry about Flo :( it is so frustrating when your vet isn't rabbit savvy. Mine is ok but not fantastic, but there aren't any better ones close by, and my buns are terrified of travelling :(
 
What a grat write up story and fully support what you said. I have a great relationship with out vet, always asked questions and learnt alot from them. But most iportantly she respected my veiws and wishes and knew I waqs never one to go for the simple answer of PTS without a mayjor fight for life!!
 
100% agree with you. I have just lost my beloved Flo at only 18 months old. She had a weeks rip off treatment at one vet, and they seemed so clinical, and their answer to her deteriorating condition was that I either had to put her to sleep or go to a specialist. £600 they charged me and could not tell me what was the problem. Within 24 hours at a new vet, Cheshire Pet, she had a poo smear, diagnosed with a couple of probs, and was eating a few greens and pooping better. Sadly although they tried ever so hard to help her she died yesterday with her beloved Panda cuddled up to her. The difference in attitudes between the two vets was amazing. You really need a vet who understands rabbits and will fit with you for your pets health and life, not just write them off.

Sarah, I am so sorry to hear about Flo. There are a few of us from around the Cheshire/Wirral area who use different vets and can recommend depending on which area you are in.

Thinking of you and Panda.
 
I love this, especially the gut feeling part!


My first bunny and the absolute love of my life, and was put to sleep at 5 years old...One day when I went to check on him before bed, I knew something was very wrong, there wasnt anything particularly visual to go on, but just the way he was sat, the way he didnt budge when i was talking to him, opening the door, etc I just knew straight away in my gut he wasnt right, and it was bad...I was 17 at the time, it was 11pm at night and with the rents away I had no way of getting him to a vet, I had to wait until the next day to get him in...the vet said I was overreacting, he was fine and had probably just overdone his binkying and pulled his back (as he'd done previously) she dosed him on pain killers and steroids and sent me home, feeling uneasy but shes the vet...i did what she said.

Over the next two weeks we were back at the vets every other day...he looked a bit like one side of his face had dropped (I still wonder if he'd had a stroke?) she kept dosing him up on the same stuff, pain killers, fluids, giving me packets of recovery food and sending me home...for about 3 days I was up every 3 hours with him, every 2 during the night, trying to get food, water, anything in him... I didnt leave the house, I separated him from his partner incase it was infectious...I didnt ask questions I just got on with trying to bring him through it and doing what the vets said I should.

at my next and final appt, they got him out of the carrier, pulled at his fur, told me he was too far gone and that was it. It was four years ago now and I still well up over it because he was my little buddy and I feel like I didnt do enough for him. That day I knew he'd given up and that was it, but now, with the joys of hindsight, I dont think the vets made any attempt to find out what was going on with him...just dosed him with general stuff and hoped it would work. I wish I'd gone with my gut, asked for another opinion, gone to a different vets...but I didnt I just did went along with what they said. They told me 5 years was a good age for a mini lop and also managed to send me his vaccination reminders twice over in the following months.


To cap it off, I was heartbroken and could barely look at my other bunny without breaking down, a month later she died in my arms. I'd taken her to the same vets at the start of the week as she was quite snuffly and seemed to be breathing oddly(completely different to Boo)...they gave her steroids and fluids and off we went...by wednesday i didnt think she'd improved, i rang them, and got told to give it longer...thursday night she still wasnt good, i rang them friday morning, they told me they'd no appts, she'd be ok though and they'd get me in first thing in the morning. I remember clearly getting up for the 9.15am appt with her, going out to the garage, opening her hutch and her wobbling over, licking my hand a few times, and nudging for a cuddle, I put my arm around her and she died there and then at 8.45am.

It wont bring them back but ever since I question everything, I want every option available, I want everything explained and if it doesnt make sense I have them go over it until it does...If Im not satisfied then I'll get a second opinion because I'm never letting that happen again...Im also at a different vets, I sourced my current vets...I asked if they had a "rabbit vet" theres one nurse and one vet I tend to stick with, but they've even rang me from their homes on days off, to find out how my other bunnies have gotten on after surgery and how they're recovering...I trust them as professionals and as individual people.


As you say, Im not saying go against what the vets say by any means, or even to blame the vets if it goes wrong, but make sure they do everything for you and your bunnies because not knowing whether everything was done or not, or if a different vet could have saved your bunny is absolutely heartbreaking.
 
I love this, especially the gut feeling part!


My first bunny and the absolute love of my life, and was put to sleep at 5 years old...One day when I went to check on him before bed, I knew something was very wrong, there wasnt anything particularly visual to go on, but just the way he was sat, the way he didnt budge when i was talking to him, opening the door, etc I just knew straight away in my gut he wasnt right, and it was bad...I was 17 at the time, it was 11pm at night and with the rents away I had no way of getting him to a vet, I had to wait until the next day to get him in...the vet said I was overreacting, he was fine and had probably just overdone his binkying and pulled his back (as he'd done previously) she dosed him on pain killers and steroids and sent me home, feeling uneasy but shes the vet...i did what she said.

Over the next two weeks we were back at the vets every other day...he looked a bit like one side of his face had dropped (I still wonder if he'd had a stroke?) she kept dosing him up on the same stuff, pain killers, fluids, giving me packets of recovery food and sending me home...for about 3 days I was up every 3 hours with him, every 2 during the night, trying to get food, water, anything in him... I didnt leave the house, I separated him from his partner incase it was infectious...I didnt ask questions I just got on with trying to bring him through it and doing what the vets said I should.

at my next and final appt, they got him out of the carrier, pulled at his fur, told me he was too far gone and that was it. It was four years ago now and I still well up over it because he was my little buddy and I feel like I didnt do enough for him. That day I knew he'd given up and that was it, but now, with the joys of hindsight, I dont think the vets made any attempt to find out what was going on with him...just dosed him with general stuff and hoped it would work. I wish I'd gone with my gut, asked for another opinion, gone to a different vets...but I didnt I just did went along with what they said. They told me 5 years was a good age for a mini lop and also managed to send me his vaccination reminders twice over in the following months.


To cap it off, I was heartbroken and could barely look at my other bunny without breaking down, a month later she died in my arms. I'd taken her to the same vets at the start of the week as she was quite snuffly and seemed to be breathing oddly(completely different to Boo)...they gave her steroids and fluids and off we went...by wednesday i didnt think she'd improved, i rang them, and got told to give it longer...thursday night she still wasnt good, i rang them friday morning, they told me they'd no appts, she'd be ok though and they'd get me in first thing in the morning. I remember clearly getting up for the 9.15am appt with her, going out to the garage, opening her hutch and her wobbling over, licking my hand a few times, and nudging for a cuddle, I put my arm around her and she died there and then at 8.45am.

It wont bring them back but ever since I question everything, I want every option available, I want everything explained and if it doesnt make sense I have them go over it until it does...If Im not satisfied then I'll get a second opinion because I'm never letting that happen again...Im also at a different vets, I sourced my current vets...I asked if they had a "rabbit vet" theres one nurse and one vet I tend to stick with, but they've even rang me from their homes on days off, to find out how my other bunnies have gotten on after surgery and how they're recovering...I trust them as professionals and as individual people.


As you say, Im not saying go against what the vets say by any means, or even to blame the vets if it goes wrong, but make sure they do everything for you and your bunnies because not knowing whether everything was done or not, or if a different vet could have saved your bunny is absolutely heartbreaking.

I just want to give you a big cuddle! I can relate so much to those stories in a different yet similar way. I'm so so sorry you lost them like that. I can totally see where you are now and it's where I am. All we can do from those tragic situations is to learn from them, which you have. Your bunnies, all of them, past and present, are lucky to have you.

And welcome to the forum :)
 
Oh my what an emotional story :cry: I constantly stand up to vets, well I say stand up I mean I complain to another vet when I'm not happy.
 
thank you, I only meant to put a brief note but ended up detailing the whole event!

It was horrible and it completely opened my eyes that even in the professional vet world, I think theres still a great deal of people that see rabbits and other small animals as "just a rabbit" or "just a guinea pig" etc...Obviously in some cases theres only so much you can do for the animal but as much as possible in the best interests of the animal, be it a cat, dog, rabbit, horse, fish parrot whatever! ;) things are changing but I think the more aware you are as an owner, the better!


and Hi all! :wave:
 
:wave: Hi Wildchild & welcome to the forum.
I just wanted to say that my heart goes out to you.

It can be so difficult for people in rural areas who don't have choice of vets. I think that a big problem is that normal vets have very little training in rabbit illness, because rabbits are classed as "exotic pets" :shock:
Also good treatment of rabbits is a relatively new speciality, perhaps only about the last 15 years.

I also wanted to say that there's a world authority on rabbit treatment in Harrowgate! Francis Harcourt Brown. If there's a problem, her practice will always advise another vet what to do by telephone.
The phone number to give your vet is 01493 508945.;)
 
"The easiest thing to do would be to PTS" Ppfftttttttt I don't want the easiest thing thankyou!

Wish is so gorgeous :) It is amazing that you helped her to fight and was her voice. She can never say it in words but I bet she is very thankful that you helped her to pull through and did all you could
 
This thread was in my mind this week when making decisions for Scarlet. I am now very glad i trusted my instincts and advocated for my rabbit!!
 
Mine too actually. I find it really hard to stand up to vets and question them - especially those I don't know as you don't know how it will be taken. But I also thought of this thread last week with Tully and it definitely gave me just a little bit more confidence when I was on the spot.
 
Just for the purposes of this thread and the significance of it but lovely not-so-little Wish is seven years old today :love:

She wouldn't be here and had the life she has had, had I not advocated. She's still here to remind me of that. She hasn't had a dental in over a year, after starting on depocillin for abscesses and is on the smallest dose of netacam she has ever been on. She's a porker!

She does have breathing issues and has to be nebuliser and stuff but she is a picture of health and happiness! (Unless she doesn't get her pellets fast enough, then the happiness goes out the window).
 
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Amazing :)
She's very lucky you spoke up for her and it's a brilliant message to share.
We are all they have, and hopefully we can all do as you have done for Wish and give an animal that wants to fight, the chance.

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Just for the purposes of this thread and the significance of it but lovely not-so-little Wish is seven years old today :love:

She wouldn't be here and had the life she has had, had I not advocated. She's still here to remind me of that. She hasn't had a dental in over a year, after starting on depocillin for abscesses and is on the smallest dose of netacam she has ever been on. She's a porker!

She does have breathing issues and has to be nebuliser and stuff but she is a picture of health and happiness! (Unless she doesn't get her pellets fast enough, then the happiness goes out the window).


Lovely update :D
 
Just for the purposes of this thread and the significance of it but lovely not-so-little Wish is seven years old today :love:

She wouldn't be here and had the life she has had, had I not advocated. She's still here to remind me of that. She hasn't had a dental in over a year, after starting on depocillin for abscesses and is on the smallest dose of netacam she has ever been on. She's a porker!

She does have breathing issues and has to be nebuliser and stuff but she is a picture of health and happiness! (Unless she doesn't get her pellets fast enough, then the happiness goes out the window).

:D :love:
 
Great update :) my Daisy would not be here also, if I hadn't advocated for her last September, and persuaded the vet to give her maximum metacam so she would eat. I'm currently struggling, as that vet is on holiday, and the other who knows Daisy and her problems is an absolute a**e, and won't be told anything :( he always knows best apparently, as he has a veterinary degree and I don't. He reduced me to tears on several occasions. Got another week before the nice vet is back, really hope Daisy can hold out until then, she could do with looking at really :(
 
Wow. It’s been a long time since I updated this. I only have one rabbit left now, and that rabbit is Wish. She has somehow outlived all her siblings and all her roommates. And remains in pretty good shape for a rabbit who is ten and a half. :love:
 
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