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BinkyBun
19-08-2007, 01:03 PM
Do you ever doubt yourself and question am I good enough? I know i suffer from teh dreaded d so it probably doesn't help these reflective moments...but today i keep wondering if I'm good enough. Do you get like this too?

I know I always take my babies to the vets if I'm worried about anything and they're fine and healthy. I clean their areas and stuff everyday. Feeding of course!! I don't know if its the keeping the two pairs in separate rooms thats making me feel this way. I'd love all 4 of them bonded together like the pic below and running throughout the flat together. I constantly worry do they feel loved enough? But then maybe thats me putting my feelings onto them? Do you do this too??

sillyrabbit
19-08-2007, 01:06 PM
Yep but I know I am doing the best I can with them :D

elve
19-08-2007, 01:07 PM
I used to but the longer they go on happy and healthy as they are, the more confident you get that you must be doing something right :)

casu consulto
19-08-2007, 01:07 PM
YEP.

I'm a fairly anxious person. Never used to be, but became that way about a year ago... When I recently decided to get Barney a friend, I ended up having to search in places I had not before. And had to have a home visit from the RSPCA. I was in floods of tears, telling my mum I didn't know what I'd do if they came, said that no, I wasn't offering a suitable environment for a new rabbit. Because that would mean that I'd let Barney down. I think my poor mother thought I'd flipped. What's worse, I often wonder if I did all I could for my previous two rabbits. And I currently worry one rabbit feels more loved than the other...

So you're definately not alone in feeling that way. ^^

Jayms_fallen_angel
19-08-2007, 01:10 PM
Yep, I sat on the phone crying one night because I was convinced that I wasn't good enough because I'd just got Charm and couldn't tell if he was improving or worsening. I wasn't used to him yet. Thank god for my bf he cheered me up.

XMissySJx
19-08-2007, 01:16 PM
i do all the time. To be honest i think its mostly forums like this that do it! There so many do's and dont's and it can get quite confusing at times! Also sometimes i find myself in a group discussion, and i am the minority, which makes me question myself ALOT.

BinkyBun
19-08-2007, 01:26 PM
YEP.

I'm a fairly anxious person. Never used to be, but became that way about a year ago... When I recently decided to get Barney a friend, I ended up having to search in places I had not before. And had to have a home visit from the RSPCA. I was in floods of tears, telling my mum I didn't know what I'd do if they came, said that no, I wasn't offering a suitable environment for a new rabbit. Because that would mean that I'd let Barney down. I think my poor mother thought I'd flipped. What's worse, I often wonder if I did all I could for my previous two rabbits. And I currently worry one rabbit feels more loved than the other...

So you're definately not alone in feeling that way. ^^

Thank heavens I'm not alone!! I even tell myself I'm being stupid but I still worry sometimes. Thats why I really wanted to have 4 bunnies so they all had a partner to cuddle up to as I didn't like Annie being left out sometimes. I have to keep reminding myself that I am good and my buns are healthy and happy - they binky enough!!

I couldn't sleep last night so was surfing the net when I came across an article about a "animal collector" which is basically someone who has too many animals to cope with - believes they are doing really well for them and keeps them in squalid conditions and never takes them to the vet. Now I know this isn't me because, (1) I always take them to the vet for nail and teeth checks and any other thing I'm worried about them at the time:rolleyes: (2) clean every day (3) I can't have anymore than 4 bunnies as it really is my max (4) i'm always questioning myself and checking in rabbit books or on this forum. BUT still I'm getting anxious because I read that article and now worry that other people might think I'm like that for having 4 bunnies.. I also worry because no matter how much I hoover and sweep up - when someone comes to visit or deliver a parcel there is always hay and rabbit poopies on the floor and I worry they think thats "sqaulid" :cry:

sillyrabbit
19-08-2007, 01:31 PM
Thank heavens I'm not alone!! I even tell myself I'm being stupid but I still worry sometimes. Thats why I really wanted to have 4 bunnies so they all had a partner to cuddle up to as I didn't like Annie being left out sometimes. I have to keep reminding myself that I am good and my buns are healthy and happy - they binky enough!!

I couldn't sleep last night so was surfing the net when I came across an article about a "animal collector" which is basically someone who has too many animals to cope with - believes they are doing really well for them and keeps them in squalid conditions and never takes them to the vet. Now I know this isn't me because, (1) I always take them to the vet for nail and teeth checks and any other thing I'm worried about them at the time:rolleyes: (2) clean every day (3) I can't have anymore than 4 bunnies as it really is my max (4) i'm always questioning myself and checking in rabbit books or on this forum. BUT still I'm getting anxious because I read that article and now worry that other people might think I'm like that for having 4 bunnies.. I also worry because no matter how much I hoover and sweep up - when someone comes to visit or deliver a parcel there is always hay and rabbit poopies on the floor and I worry they think thats "sqaulid" :cry:

Awww hun xx

Seriously as long as you know your animals are all looked after thats all that matters ;) People always say to me but why do you have to have four of them, and I just say because I can offer four of them loving homes so why not :D Im always behind a bunny sweeping up and whenever someone knocks on the door there is going to be a bit of hay or a bunny poo on the floor somewhere in the house :lol: I dont really care to be honest, if anyone comes round I always say excuse the mess the bunnies are in the house even if its only one piece of hay on the floor but its not like the place is dirty, they mostly use their trays and hay just gets everywhere :lol:

cavysrock
19-08-2007, 01:33 PM
yes
but I know they are happy, despite what others think

XMissySJx
19-08-2007, 01:46 PM
i have the same fear! cos someone came round the other day i saw my bunny garden, and was amazed! They thought it was lovely, the fresh new turf, hutches, runs etc,and i asked them why they were shocked. and they were like 'oh i didnt think they were like this'. i just was like...what you thought i kept them in tiny hutches and never playd with them?!?!

BinkyBun
19-08-2007, 01:58 PM
I know!! ...People are always very suprised and impressed that I have rabbits running around just like house cats would :lol: They seem to like their toy house even more though "you mean thats for the rabbits? they know how to play with it?" :rolleyes: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Thanks guys you're really making me feel better.

Bavarian Bunny
19-08-2007, 02:01 PM
With 4 bunnies you can hardly be called an animal collector. Most people here have several animals. Hoarders collect and neglect, but you keep your bunnies as your friends and spoil them. That's a big difference. I'm sure you spend more time with your bunnies than a lot of us. I am sometimes worried that I don't spend enough time with my foster bunny, because if it is a single bunny then he/she does not have any company. My own bunnies have themselves and seem to be quite happy with that. They don't need me to sit and talk to them all day. The only worry I have there is that I feed them too much, because with 3 it is hard to control how much each of them eats, and Luna seems to have her nose in the food bowl all the time. :lol: But she is still growing at the moment.

BinkyBun
19-08-2007, 02:07 PM
Thanks Bavbun. I just get worked up and worried about things. I wish I could swap my brain with a good working one!! :rolleyes:

Fran
19-08-2007, 02:18 PM
Yeah, I feel like that whenever I think about Bob and how I let him down. I just think that maybe I shouldn't have these 5 if I couldn't make him better and that maybe they could do better than me for a mum. I know losing him made me learn a lot more about rabbits so that it wouldn't happen again but as the days go past I just dread losing another one because losing him hurt so much and I know I haven't got over him dying yet - it's too hard.

I try my hardest with them and I know I put them before myself all the time and take them to the vets if I think anything is wrong with them so I am trying but I just don't want to let any of them down again.

Don't doubt that you're a good mum though BinkyBun, it's clear that you love your buns more than anything and do the best you can for them :)

x

XMissySJx
19-08-2007, 02:20 PM
i think we doubt ourselves bcus we pushj ourselves so hard to do so much for them. With dogs, cats etc its in a way easier because all the information is there. Rabbits are so misjudged and as we all know not childrens pets etc so, not only do we have to cope with trying to be the best we can we have to learn for ourselves as most of the information out there is incorrect. It makes so much harder. x

cheekytikki
19-08-2007, 03:17 PM
i feel like that sonetimes :( because i cant have them running round the house becauswe ofthe dogs they can only have their room and the landing. i also feel bead as they dont like to be handled much so when i see pics of people cuddling their buns and that i always feel sad but i know my buns just prefer to go and do their own thing. they will tolerate being cuddled and held but they much prefer to just wander around and come and steal food from me :roll: :lol:

loobie_lou
19-08-2007, 03:29 PM
I think I'm good enough - if there's anything they need, I get them it. They've got both indoor and outdoor accomodation now, they're both vaccinated to date, neutered and live together so they're not lonely. They're brushed twice a day, they're given bromelain tablets just incase they've swallowed any fur (but only every 2 days), they're eating a high fibre diet, they're insured, they stay with Kayj when I go away even though she lives a fair bit away from me - but I want the best for my bunnies, they have a whole day of play time, and are brought in to the kitchen a few times a day for a massive run around, they have 4 different types of hay, presented twice daily and updated when needed, they have fresh water day and night, they have cleaned out litter trays once a day, they have loads of toys for stimulation....

... but some people may argue this isn't enough, but my rabbits are clean, healthy, fed, bonded and happy... so I'm happy that I am good enough =]

I'm sure the biggest majority of the people on here are good enough too... all rabbits need are love, some time (but not as much as dogs, etc), space and, in a lot of cases, a friend =]

XMissySJx
19-08-2007, 03:29 PM
sometimes i wonder how they qould be if they were someone elses buns.:oops: just because i see how people have house rabbits, or how they know more than me and it makes me wonder

rabbits-are-cuties
19-08-2007, 04:50 PM
I do.

I can't hold my buns :oops: . They freak out and start twisting when i do. I get down on the floor with them instead and let them come to me for a groom. :shock: OMG! That's really bad isn't it!

Does anyone else have un-pick-up-able buns?

elve
19-08-2007, 04:57 PM
I do.

I can't hold my buns :oops: . They freak out and start twisting when i do. I get down on the floor with them instead and let them come to me for a groom. :shock: OMG! That's really bad isn't it!

Does anyone else have un-pick-up-able buns?

I never handle mine - except Benny who somehow needs his nails cutting and thank goodness is docile.

I can't believe you all doubt your abilities so much - the fact you come on this forum, ask questions and take an interest makes you brilliant mums :D

rabbits-are-cuties
19-08-2007, 05:05 PM
:lol: :lol:

Just read through this thread again and realised how depressing we all sound!

Rosie Rabbit
19-08-2007, 05:18 PM
You've always come across to me as a very committed bunny mum :D But, like me, you're probably a worrier :oops:

I know deep down that I'm a good mum to Rosie (currently looking for a husbun before anyone asks ;) :lol: ) but it doesn't stop me worrying if I'm doing things correctly.

I think that the fact that you're on here stressing about being a good mum definitely means that you are :D

Think of all the people who keep a rabbit in a tiny hutch and don't give them hay or any stimulation or look after them properly - in other words, the kind of people who are very unlikely to post on a forum like this because they just don't care that much - they are the people who need to be questioning themselves :rolleyes:

casu consulto
19-08-2007, 05:36 PM
It's sort of reassuring to read how other people doubt themselves sometimes, too...

When I sit and think logically, I know I do everything for my two that I can. and I do sometimes think about how many rabbits are left in a hutch that isn't big enough all day, without human or bunny companionship... But I still occasionally doubt myself. Luckily, at times like that I can take my sorry self out to the bunnies and both are very licky. Barney tries to draw me into the hutch with him so we can groom 'properly'. :roll: Which reassures me quite a bit.

rabbits-are-cuties
19-08-2007, 05:36 PM
You've always come across to me as a very committed bunny mum :D But, like me, you're probably a worrier :oops:

I know deep down that I'm a good mum to Rosie (currently looking for a husbun before anyone asks ;) :lol: ) but it doesn't stop me worrying if I'm doing things correctly.

I think that the fact that you're on here stressing about being a good mum definitely means that you are :D

Think of all the people who keep a rabbit in a tiny hutch and don't give them hay or any stimulation or look after them properly - in other words, the kind of people who are very unlikely to post on a forum like this because they just don't care that much - they are the people who need to be questioning themselves :rolleyes:


Couldn't have put it better myself!:D

Morrigan1981
19-08-2007, 05:37 PM
You've always come across to me as a very committed bunny mum :D But, like me, you're probably a worrier :oops:

I know deep down that I'm a good mum to Rosie (currently looking for a husbun before anyone asks ;) :lol: ) but it doesn't stop me worrying if I'm doing things correctly.

I think that the fact that you're on here stressing about being a good mum definitely means that you are :D

Think of all the people who keep a rabbit in a tiny hutch and don't give them hay or any stimulation or look after them properly - in other words, the kind of people who are very unlikely to post on a forum like this because they just don't care that much - they are the people who need to be questioning themselves :rolleyes:

I couldn't have said it better! :D I think everyone worries that they're not doing a good job of caring for their animals at some point (I know I do: I was stressing about Jen and Frankie not getting enough exercise today whilst it was chucking it down... I had to remind myself that I can't control the weather :roll: ) but the fact that you do assess the level of care you give your animals is proof in itself that you obviously are a very caring and considerate owner x

sillyrabbit
19-08-2007, 05:59 PM
Does anyone else have un-pick-up-able buns?

I cant pick Buu up :D Not even the vet can pick Buu up :shock: :lol: I have to take along a piece of vetbed and me and the vet sit on the floor, and she gets examined on the floor :D And I have to bribe her to lay down do check her bum. She is very stroppy and gets in a mood over the smallest thing like if I stop at Trip and Scarlett first on the way outside :roll: :lol: She has been treated exactly the same as my other buns though so she is just a stroppy madam. I love her to bits and wouldnt change any of her personalty though.

Fran
19-08-2007, 06:05 PM
:lol: :lol:

Just read through this thread again and realised how depressing we all sound!

I know :lol: :oops:

I also have rabbits that hate being handled :roll: Two of them don't like being nose rubbed or stroked either. I was just cleaning out and Rubix doesn't like the hay in his hutch being touched and likes to flatten it out with his feet. I touched his hay and got hit with his two front feet and grunted at :lol: Then when I opened the bedroom area door he thumped at me because he wanted to eat his hay in private :shock: :lol: Good job I love him :D

abbymarysmokey
19-08-2007, 06:06 PM
I've been feeling really bad about one of mine - Crunchie. I've only had her since January, and during that time she's turned into a beast :cry:

She was quite poorly when I got her (she was starving and dehydrated), but was fairly friendly and placid at first.

Over the past few months she's become almost unhandleable. She growls and leaps at me trying to bite me. If I pick her up she bites me (hard) until I put her down. Plus she HATES all my other rabbits with a passion.

I constantly wonder why she's become so evil. I hope it's just because she's returned to perfect health and is showing her true character, but I suspect it's just because she hates me for giving her medication and having her spayed :cry: .

Amy

Lillian
19-08-2007, 08:02 PM
I feel like that most of the time. It doesnt help that i have depression and an anxiety disorder. I feel guilty over many of my buns death, especially Lillians :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: I feel i could have done so much more for my buns

cavysrock
19-08-2007, 08:11 PM
My rabbits ( except Blue) all hate being handled, so I don't unless it's neede. My Bluey Boy went into a trance during his vet visit :rolleyes: :lol: The vet looked amazed at him saying that he was very relaxed even though I had just got him and brought him to the vets. SOME of my bunnies like having nose rubs and head scritches but only if theyw ant them, even Asbeau will let me sometimes :shock:
I started to actually belive that I was an ok bunny mummy when the vet sadi they were amazed how well Basil was two months after being so ill, theys aid I must look after them really well :D ( even the receptionists and vet nurse was suprised :lol: )
I reckon everyone here is a fantastic bunny mummy and should never doubt themselves.
Aslong as your bunny(s) are happy, healthy and hopping about, it shows you are a good bunny mummy :)

BinkyBun
19-08-2007, 08:47 PM
This thread has really got people opening up! I'm sure you are all great bunny mummys and thank you for sharing with me. Its made me feel a lot better. The dreaded d and anxiety just takes hold sometimes...:(

Lillian - I'm sorry about your bun Lillian xx

My two boys, Darcy and Frasier are the best ones for a cuddle. I think naturally all rabbits prefer snuggles and grooming on the floor at their level as it must be scary coming up to our height and being a prey animal by nature. Beatrix loves a cuddle now and then but not all the time. Annie gets very nervous but then calms down and seems to enjoy it. I don't force cuddles on them but if I really need a cuddle I will pick up Darcy or Frasier as they like it the most.

BinkyBun
19-08-2007, 09:10 PM
I don't think anyone on this forum is an "animal collector" thank heavens. Like has already been said in this thread, an AC would prob never use a forum or ask advice about their buns. I really should be more careful about the stuff I read on the internet late at night...its just asking for anxiety attack.

cavysrock
19-08-2007, 09:21 PM
Oh
I fogot to say BinkyBun,
I think you are a fantastic bunny mummy,
i think your bunnies are so lucky :)
so don't worry sweetie, I can just tell from the siggie pics that your bunnies are happy bunsters :)

Toni H
19-08-2007, 09:27 PM
I admit I worry about Murray and Honey all the time. I worry about when it rains, they get sad and fed up, and I worry that they are happy and healthy. But, with regular checks at the vet, if I wasn't doing a good job I'm sure he'd say by now.

I think it's natural, if you care for something or someone you worry about them. It's the same for family members and friends. But the only difference is bunnies can't tell you when something is wrong straight away :cry: we just have to make sure we're alert for these things if they arise.

All we can do is love them and ensure they have all they need and know they are loved and cared for :love:

If I carry on much longer I'm going to start to cry! ;)

Bavarian Bunny
19-08-2007, 09:40 PM
I admit I worry about Murray and Honey all the time. I worry about when it rains, they get sad and fed up, and I worry that they are happy and healthy. But, with regular checks at the vet, if I wasn't doing a good job I'm sure he'd say by now.

I think it's natural, if you care for something or someone you worry about them. It's the same for family members and friends. But the only difference is bunnies can't tell you when something is wrong straight away :cry: we just have to make sure we're alert for these things if they arise.

All we can do is love them and ensure they have all they need and know they are loved and cared for :love:

If I carry on much longer I'm going to start to cry! ;)

Quick, think of Simon Cowell!!!! :D


My bunnies are not much into cuddling and being picked up, either. Snoopy does not even want his noserubs. And Luna has become a bit shy, because she knows that I have to catch her to give her the panacur. Pete is the easiest to carry, he feels like a little human baby.

Toni H
19-08-2007, 09:42 PM
Quick, think of Simon Cowell!!!! :D

Oh, thanks for the reminder, feel better now :lol:
Might even rename Murray! :lol: :lol: :lol:

petticoat74
19-08-2007, 09:51 PM
I do worry about whether I am a good bunny mummy!!:lol: But then I think, that they are an integral part of my life, fed the best, cleaned, go to the vets when needed and most important they are loved, they are my babies.. not toys to be pulled and pushed about, they are respected as individuals, so if they don't want to be fussed over they aren't! I believe that everyone on here must really love their pets, after all you wouldn't be on this forum if you didn't!!;) :lol:

Crystal butterfly
19-08-2007, 11:01 PM
thoughts do go through head sometimes that my rabbits would be much happier in another home :oops: but to be honest i can tell Crystal and Simba are Happy im just not sure if Honey is :? shes a nervous rabbit and always bites when i pick her up :cry: but she'll always let my sister cuddle her :shock: but then again my sister doesnt cut Honeys nails or take her to the horrible vets to get injections and neutered :roll:

Kylie541
19-08-2007, 11:22 PM
I do worry all the time. He lives on his own and I let him have treats and things. Yesterday he bit me but he was frightened and I scoped him up and gave him a cuddle and he fell asleep in my arms. My poor baby boy came to live with me at 4 months old and usually I clean up his cage when he is running around my bedroom and floor when he is in bed. Yesterday I was tired and I started to clean his pen when he was still running around and he ran over growling and attacked the brush. I thought he was playing but he did it again and so I shut myself in the pen. I then noticed he was getting anxious that I was there without him so opened it up he ran in there bit the brush and the bit my back. I felt awful because I carried on stupidly why didn't I stop when he first attacked? Why didn't I realise how distressed he was? I shouldn't have placed him in that position. I didn't know what to do but pick him up and cuddle him. Today he has been helping me sort out in my room and is back to his adorable self. But I have moments when I think why did I get him? I love him though I know that.

I clean him daily and he has good quality food and veg from the garden. I just think that he may be better off without me maybe somewhere where there is space for a friend.

BinkyBun
19-08-2007, 11:25 PM
Quick, think of Simon Cowell!!!! :D


:shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

BinkyBun
19-08-2007, 11:27 PM
I do worry all the time. He lives on his own and I let him have treats and things. Yesterday he bit me but he was frightened and I scoped him up and gave him a cuddle and he fell asleep in my arms. My poor baby boy came to live with me at 4 months old and usually I clean up his cage when he is running around my bedroom and floor when he is in bed. Yesterday I was tired and I started to clean his pen when he was still running around and he ran over growling and attacked the brush. I thought he was playing but he did it again and so I shut myself in the pen. I then noticed he was getting anxious that I was there without him so opened it up he ran in there bit the brush and the bit my back. I felt awful because I carried on stupidly why didn't I stop when he first attacked? Why didn't I realise how distressed he was? I shouldn't have placed him in that position. I didn't know what to do but pick him up and cuddle him. Today he has been helping me sort out in my room and is back to his adorable self. But I have moments when I think why did I get him? I love him though I know that.

I clean him daily and he has good quality food and veg from the garden. I just think that he may be better off without me maybe somewhere where there is space for a friend.


Please don't worry. Rabbits get very territorial about their area - whether its their hutch or play pen. When you're cleaning it out - even though you're doing a nice good thing - they want to defend it!! He doesn't mean to hurt you. Has he been neutured yet? That will seriously help! xxx

BinkyBun
19-08-2007, 11:32 PM
thoughts do go through head sometimes that my rabbits would be much happier in another home :oops: but to be honest i can tell Crystal and Simba are Happy im just not sure if Honey is :? shes a nervous rabbit and always bites when i pick her up :cry: but she'll always let my sister cuddle her :shock: but then again my sister doesnt cut Honeys nails or take her to the horrible vets to get injections and neutered :roll:

I'm sure Honey will come round soon. I know a lot of members here have rabbits that started out as biters but then as they learned to trust turned into be soppy fluffsters. Louise&gus and Chloaster can give you good tips on this. I've been really lucky so far and none of my buns have been biters.

Kylie541
19-08-2007, 11:39 PM
He is 6 and a half months old and has never growled or bitten me. I get in his pen with him and stroke him in his cage. My dogs get in his pen (when I am there) and he is not fussed, not even the parrot bothers him .

My mum picked the dustpan and brush up when he was on my lap and he hid and starting shaking. This leads me to believe that someone has frightened him with it before me.

I am not planing on castrating because me and the vet feel it's unecessary, he just isn't territorial and loves being carried around. He happily lies on his back for a tummy tickle :lol: and to have his nails clipped. I will castrate if he does show signs of being territorial. If the only thing he hates is me having the dustpan and brush out then I think I am a very lucky lady.

I don't blame him for bitting he was visibly anxious. We haven't had the pen up today as we have being filling paper work and sorting through suitcases. He has had a wonderful day running through everything like a crazy bunny.

elve
20-08-2007, 07:31 AM
My boy Benny hates the dustpan and brush, and in fact all brushes, with a passion - I think it's normal :) Here's a piccy of him playing his favourite game called 'KILL THE BRUSH'

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v475/mae23/P1010018.jpg

My unspayed girls aren't at all territorial but they all look at the brush I'm holding as if it's something dangerous - they don't realise I'm using it for a tool - they think it works all by itself so it has to be treated with suspicion if not hatred - funny bunnies :shock: I've heard of other people being attacked when brushing up too, so I usually put the brush down, let them have a sniff of it, then carry on sweeping after they wander off again.

Bavarian Bunny
20-08-2007, 08:13 AM
How funny! Mine are usually very interested in brushes, try to sniff them, but don't attack. They just like to sit in the way so that I can't brush up where I want to. :rolleyes:

BinkyBun
20-08-2007, 10:14 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v475/mae23/P1010018.jpg

Benny is gorgeous!! I love his paw on the brush...."you're not using it mummy":lol: :lol: Mine don't attack the dust pan and brush they're used to it. They do like chinning it but then at the minute they chin everything..!! Frasier even wee'd on it once:roll: :lol: :lol:

Fur brushing none of them are wild about but will tolerate it. On hot days Darcy really seems to understand it more which is good. I do the same as Bavbun and when they get too suspicious of the brush I put it down on the floor so they can sniff it and play with it for a while...then I come back and use and they seem more relaxed with it..:D