in labour?

[kimd6200]

hi all,missy my 2yr ol cross breed got in with obi a few weeks back by mistake and i think shes in labour!shes always been fat so couldnt tell if she was pregnant or not.nyway,since this morning she has been pacing up and down her hutch n keeps going in the bed part.put her some fresh hay n veg n she doesnt seem to bothered.could this be the signs of labour starting?she hasnt built a nest yet but its her 1st litter.i didnt intend on breeding her but accidents happen.
thanks

[Jack's-Jane]

How many weeks ago was the 'accidental' mating?
The gestation period for Rabbits is approximately 32 days. They normally build a nest a few days before giving birth, although young/inexperienced Does may not. Birthing usually takes place at night.

Is your Doe eating at all? Has she passed the normal amount of poo over the last 12 hours.

MOST IMPORTANT IS THE BUCK WELL AWAY FROM HER. A Doe can become pregnant again IMMEDIATELY after giving birth.

To avoid future accidents why not get you Buns Neutered. The Doe will be protected from Uterine infections and cancer and the Buck wont be frustrated by his desire to mate. You could even bond them, two loved up Bunnies and NO Babies :D

I would keep a very close eye on your Doe and if she continues to behave in a distressed manner I'd contact your Vet for advice

Janex

[Estelle]

you could have taken her to the vets after the accident for an emergency spay. She probably is pregnant now. Hope there aren't too many babies! :?

I would definately get the boy bun neutered a.s.a.p to stop it happening again. You will need to remove the babies at 8 weeks and separate them into male and females or they could start breeding too. Its very easy for it to get out of hand.

Good luck with the babies. There are plenty of people here who have had experience with baby rabbits to give you more advice if needed :D

[kimd6200]

she isnt with the buck because he ran off.shes eating and pooin ok.seems abit better now.it was 4wks ago she got with the buck.havent had them spayed because i cannot afford.using money from selling tesses babies to get them all done.

[Suzi Wong]

Ran off!!!

Oh the poor thing you must be frantic.

[capel]

Have you thought this through properly Kim? How much do you think you'll get for the babies(if you managed to find buyers for them all). I shouldn't think it will cover the cost of the neutering /spaying of all the rabits

[chloaster]

I'm a bit confused :? If Missy "got in" with Obi how did he "run off"? :? You'll have to keep a close eye on them because even if you do get the money to neuter them from selling Tesses babies the bucks can stay fertile for up to 6weeks and you wont be able to spay Missy until her babies are weaned. Fingers crossed she's not pregnant as it sounds like it's the last thing you need.

[kimd6200]

she got into his enclosure before he ran off.theres a section about it in rabbit chat.ive got home for all the babies at £20 each and theres 7 of them.how many neuterings could i get done for that?dont know how much it cost.

[kimd6200]

i meant tesse has got seven babies nearly ready for rehoming.:oops:

[capel]

Prices vary, so you'd be better checking with the vet that did their vaccinations. Generally speaking spays can cost between £60 - £90 and neuters anything between £50 -£70

[Maizy]

I was charged £55 for a basic spay on Friday. But... the total came in at £93 as she had to have a pre GA health check £18.50 and then she was given pain relief jab and came home with Zantac and Baytril. So I'd have in your mind a mid £70's fig as a ball park starting point.

[sillyrabbit]

I paid £130 for Buu's spay and £170 for Scarlett's so you might want to have a word with your vet about the cost as it varies between vet surgeries. Plus its important to make sure you are using a bunny savvy vet :D I doubt you will make enough money from selling the babies to spay and neuter them all though :?

[youngbunny2]

I am truley gobsmacked that you are "selling" these poor babies to make money! huh you'll be lucky mate!.you should be looking for caring homes who may help you out by homing one.:censored: :censored:

[youngbunny2]

I am now very confused? have you got 7 babies or not?? you said you thought she was pregnant and then she has 7 babies nearly ready for selling??

[honeybunny]

brick wall ......

[beckiboo186]

brick wall ......

Agreed :roll: You put Tess in the rehoming section as a vicious bunny, and all she needs is speying............Where did she actually come from? and are you just passing her on 'cos you cant afford to spey her? Youngbunny, the babies from this litter (if bun is pregnent) are seperate to another litter 'kim davies' has :roll: I think perhaps find all the babies loving homes, and lay off 'rescuing' for a bit, you'll soon have the money to spey and neuter the buns, and make their living areas more secure, after Obi escaping Xx

[kimd6200]

listen i only come on this site for advice got to be given grief.i was given tesse who was already pregnant,missy got in with obi before he escaped and yes i am selling the babies.and ive got homes for all of missys babies aswell.theres no crime in it is there?all my rabbits are cared for properly.tesse is for rehoming and i dont think spaying her will make any difference.if everyone is just going gang up thenn ill leave and do things my own way.at least ive asked for advice.:censored:

[capel]

If you've managed to find good homes for all seven you've done very well. It is a problem when people land unwanted buns on you..I know I'd find it hard to want to help out, but sadly we can't help every needy bun. Hopefully Missy isn't pregnant and you'll be able have all those that need neutered/spayed fairly quickly.

[Jack's-Jane]

listen i only come on this site for advice got to be given grief.i was given tesse who was already pregnant,missy got in with obi before he escaped and yes i am selling the babies.and ive got homes for all of missys babies aswell.theres no crime in it is there?all my rabbits are cared for properly.tesse is for rehoming and i dont think spaying her will make any difference.if everyone is just going gang up thenn ill leave and do things my own way.at least ive asked for advice.:censored:

What makes you say that spaying Tesse wont do any good :?
She may never be a cuddly bunny but I suspect she will calm down a little without the dreaded hormones. Also, by spaying her you will protect her from nasty womb infections and cancer. Its your decision of course, but I am sure you want to do the best for her.

If you got Obi neutered first of all that would take away the risk of more 'accidents'. I dont know how old you are or if you are in work. But some people are eligible for vouchers from the RSPCA that go towards the cost of neutering. You could contact your nearest RSPCA Centre and ask them if you qualify.

I hope all the babies settle well in their new homes. You can download some Rabbit Care info' from the RWA website which you could give to the babies new owners. Here is the site

http://www.rabbitwelfare.co.uk/rwf/information.htm

Janex

[capel]

Hi Jane. Unfortunately Kim lost Obi a couple of weeks ago..seperate thread.

[Jack's-Jane]

Hi Jane. Unfortunately Kim lost Obi a couple of weeks ago..seperate thread.

Lost as in Rainbow Bridge :? :cry: :cry:

Janex

[Bavarian Bunny]

http://forums.rabbitrehome.org.uk/showthread.php?t=92243

[kimd6200]

no he managed to escape from the garden which is rabbit proof!i had only had him a week and was going to get him neutered.i dont know much about neutering so dont know if she would calm down.im not getting rid because i cant afford i want her to go to someone who could give her the time and dedication.i am checking all the homes first before babies go to make sure that they wont be going in small cages etc.im 20 with two small children so money is tight.i didnt know rabbits got cancer etc.i will save up eevry spare penny to get them done.please stop giving me a hard time.im trying my best.:cry:

[beckiboo186]

If you are truthfully trying your best and get all buns in your care speyed and neutered, then Im truly Sorry X

[sillyrabbit]

Sorry about Obi :cry: He may have been taken from your garden by a cat or fox and not escaped if he was free range outside. probably more likely if your garden is bunny proof. We get a few cats sitting on the back wall watching the rabbits when they are playing outside so I have to keep a close eye on them :D

[Jack's-Jane]

no he managed to escape from the garden which is rabbit proof!i had only had him a week and was going to get him neutered.i dont know much about neutering so dont know if she would calm down.im not getting rid because i cant afford i want her to go to someone who could give her the time and dedication.i am checking all the homes first before babies go to make sure that they wont be going in small cages etc.im 20 with two small children so money is tight.i didnt know rabbits got cancer etc.i will save up eevry spare penny to get them done.please stop giving me a hard time.im trying my best.:cry:

Well, maybe if you check out the availability of neutering vouchers that may be a start. Also, you may qualify to have the neutering done by the PDSA or the RSPCA. They require a 'donation' as opposed to a set fee.

I am sorry to hear that Obi escaped :cry:

Yes, sadly Does do get Uterine Cancer. Up to 80% of Does aged 3 and over will be likely to have it. Its a silent killer as often symptoms dont show til its too late to operate :cry:

That RWA site I posted in my previous thread is a useful source of information so I'd have a read of it when your two kiddies give you a spare half hour !!

Janex

[kimd6200]

i am going to get them all spayed.even asked my partner to get a bank loan for me so i can get them all sorted together.is it the same with males or do females just get cancer?just thinking which to get done first?x

[kimd6200]

think a fox or something might have had him.nextdoors baby bunnie went missing yesterday.either an animal or a rabbit thief is about!:evil:

[capel]

I'd get the female done first as she'll be infertile immediately whereas the male can still sire babies for up to 6 weeks afterwards(just like humans after a vasectomy). That would ensure that you'd be absolutley certain of having no more surprises. The other thing to do, Kim, is probably the most difficult..harden your heart and the next time someone approaches you with a poor bunster, point them in the direction of your nearest rescue. Your own rabbits have to come first until you are financially able to cope with extra rabbits.

[kimd6200]

i know i cannot have anymore.the bloke who i had tesse off wants me have 5 older ones because they arent breeding as good as they could!:evil: :censored: told him ive got no room so he said hel,no i cant say incase kids are on here but you get what i mean.all my local rescue centres are full.wish i didnt have such a big heart.!:oops:

[Bavarian Bunny]

think a fox or something might have had him.nextdoors baby bunnie went missing yesterday.either an animal or a rabbit thief is about!:evil:

I don't think that any garden is fox proof, I have seen a fox climb an 8ft fence. Every rabbit needs to have a fox proof hutch, i.e. strong wire mesh, doors secured with proper bolts and the wood strong enough so that a fox can't bite through it. If there is a run underneath, it should be on concrete or slabs, so that the bunnies can't dig out and the fox can't dig in. A rabbit should never have free range of the garden when no one is around to watch it, especially not at night. And as Jane sadly had to find out, foxes even come into your house to take your bunny. Right now there are many hungry fox babies, like the ones on Springwatch, and their parents are very busy trying to find enough food for them.

As for the neutering, get the boys done first. Ask a vet to find out whether the babies are male or female, it isn't easy for someone who is new to rabbits. And remember that male bunnies can still get a female pregnant for several weeks after the neutering, so keep them separate.

[Bavarian Bunny]

I'd get the female done first as she'll be infertile immediately whereas the male can still sire babies for up to 6 weeks afterwards(just like humans after a vasectomy). That would ensure that you'd be absolutley certain of having no more surprises. The other thing to do, Kim, is probably the most difficult..harden your heart and the next time someone approaches you with a poor bunster, point them in the direction of your nearest rescue. Your own rabbits have to come first until you are financially able to cope with extra rabbits.

Oh, if there is an adult female, then yes, have her done first. I thought she was talking about the babies.
If your local rescues are all full, and those poeple threaten to kill the bunnies, you can always ask here on the forum. Another rescue may be able to take some bunnies, and bunny transport can be arranged.

[capel]

i know i cannot have anymore.the bloke who i had tesse off wants me have 5 older ones because they arent breeding as good as they could!:evil: :censored: told him ive got no room so he said hel,no i cant say incase kids are on here but you get what i mean.all my local rescue centres are full.wish i didnt have such a big heart.!:oops:
Sometimes you've got to listen to your head and not your heart. If you could afford to take on those others, all you'd be doing would be making more room for him to continue breeding more rabbits...

[Doncat5]

I don't think that any garden is fox proof. Every rabbit needs to have a fox proof hutch. A rabbit should never have free range of the garden when no one is around to watch it, especially not at night. .

I completely agree, even a garden you think is SAFE, never really is!