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Advice for bunny with lots of gas

Sammy&Patch

Warren Scout
My bunny is 8 years old and hasn't been doing too well. The last few weeks she has been doing very well and I was so pleased with her progress. Yesterday at about 2pm my partner noticed her breathing really fast but just thought she must have been running around, he didn't mention to me. I noticed the same at about 2.10pm and also thought nothing of it. About 10 minutes later I came back and she was still doing it. She was lying flat stretched out the whole time but shifting around. When I went up to her she went and hid. I phoned the vet and they told me to take her straight in. She was also doing this vibrating thing for a few seconds then stop then repeat. She started breathing more normally by the time we were in the car. The vet nurse put some oxygen on her anyway while we waited for the vet. It wasn't long before the vet came out and said her tummy felt ok, her temp was ok, her breathing seemed normal again. She said to keep her with them for half an hour so they could check on her. She mentioned doing an xray to see if anything wrong with the lungs if I wanted. I said yes as they could do it without putting her under. The xray showed everything looked ok apart from large areas of gas (phew). Her stomach had food in part of it and then empty so I don't think she had eaten much since Friday night. The vet gave her an injection and told me to give her zantec and try to get her eating. She wouldn't eat apart from a bit of kale last night, this morning I have given her some critical care mix although she is a real pain for taking it, she lets most of it come back out but we got some of it in. She is refusing everything I have offered her to eat.
The veg she gets every night is a broccoli floret, curly kale, 1 fine bean and sometimes some cabbage. Now I am wondering if I have caused the gas with these veg. I have seen them on lists of safe food for bunnies but I have also recently seen broccoli can cause gas and when I googled some info today I saw that kale and fine beans can also cause gas. I think I could get her eating today with some kale as she loves it but I am reluctant in case that makes the problem worse. Does anyone have experience if these veg are likely to be the problem. Also what veg might be better to avoid this problem (although I'm not sure trying anything new right now is a good idea). This isn't a sudden change to these veg or anything so I am surprised and my other bunny is ok. Maybe she's just having more problems now as she is elderly and hasn't been too well. Any advice is appreciated, thankyou
 
I’m sorry no one has answered, and I don’t have any experience of this so I can’t advise. I know kale can cause gas in some bunnies and I had a bunny who couldn’t tolerate some fresh foods. Sending lots of vibes and hoping someone can help.
 
My bunny is 8 years old and hasn't been doing too well. The last few weeks she has been doing very well and I was so pleased with her progress. Yesterday at about 2pm my partner noticed her breathing really fast but just thought she must have been running around, he didn't mention to me. I noticed the same at about 2.10pm and also thought nothing of it. About 10 minutes later I came back and she was still doing it. She was lying flat stretched out the whole time but shifting around. When I went up to her she went and hid. I phoned the vet and they told me to take her straight in. She was also doing this vibrating thing for a few seconds then stop then repeat. She started breathing more normally by the time we were in the car. The vet nurse put some oxygen on her anyway while we waited for the vet. It wasn't long before the vet came out and said her tummy felt ok, her temp was ok, her breathing seemed normal again. She said to keep her with them for half an hour so they could check on her. She mentioned doing an xray to see if anything wrong with the lungs if I wanted. I said yes as they could do it without putting her under. The xray showed everything looked ok apart from large areas of gas (phew). Her stomach had food in part of it and then empty so I don't think she had eaten much since Friday night. The vet gave her an injection and told me to give her zantec and try to get her eating. She wouldn't eat apart from a bit of kale last night, this morning I have given her some critical care mix although she is a real pain for taking it, she lets most of it come back out but we got some of it in. She is refusing everything I have offered her to eat.
The veg she gets every night is a broccoli floret, curly kale, 1 fine bean and sometimes some cabbage. Now I am wondering if I have caused the gas with these veg. I have seen them on lists of safe food for bunnies but I have also recently seen broccoli can cause gas and when I googled some info today I saw that kale and fine beans can also cause gas. I think I could get her eating today with some kale as she loves it but I am reluctant in case that makes the problem worse. Does anyone have experience if these veg are likely to be the problem. Also what veg might be better to avoid this problem (although I'm not sure trying anything new right now is a good idea). This isn't a sudden change to these veg or anything so I am surprised and my other bunny is ok. Maybe she's just having more problems now as she is elderly and hasn't been too well. Any advice is appreciated, thankyou



Yes, certain food can cause gas and bloating in rabbits, notably broccoli, cauliflower, and sometimes also kale and greens. It could be that her digestive system isn't working as well with these things, and whereas they didn't cause a problem before, they are now.

I don't know whether you've ever used Infacol? Infant gas meds and it's great for working the gas out of the system. The way Infacol works is to gather up small gas bubbles which on the whole don't respond well to gut contractions) into larger bubbles. These larger bubbles are far easier to pass with the rabbit's gut contractions.

It doesn't interact with any other meds and is not absorbed into the bloodstream, so there is no worry with using it alongside any other medication. Even specialist vets agree it's completely safe and will not harm or interact. It's worth a try - you can give 1 ml every hour for three doses. Let me know if you want any more info on it.

Can you perhaps feed a bit more fresh forage? Grass, rose leaves, brambles, dandelions, plantain etc - much easier to digest without problems.

Some info on stasis etc:

http://anyflip.com/dvpt/hzvv/basic

http://rabbitwelfare.co.uk/pdfs/ROWinter10p7.pdf

https://www.vin.com/apputil/content/defaultadv1.aspx?id=3846185&pid=11147
 
My bunny is 8 years old and hasn't been doing too well. The last few weeks she has been doing very well and I was so pleased with her progress. Yesterday at about 2pm my partner noticed her breathing really fast but just thought she must have been running around, he didn't mention to me. I noticed the same at about 2.10pm and also thought nothing of it. About 10 minutes later I came back and she was still doing it. She was lying flat stretched out the whole time but shifting around. When I went up to her she went and hid. I phoned the vet and they told me to take her straight in. She was also doing this vibrating thing for a few seconds then stop then repeat. She started breathing more normally by the time we were in the car. The vet nurse put some oxygen on her anyway while we waited for the vet. It wasn't long before the vet came out and said her tummy felt ok, her temp was ok, her breathing seemed normal again. She said to keep her with them for half an hour so they could check on her. She mentioned doing an xray to see if anything wrong with the lungs if I wanted. I said yes as they could do it without putting her under. The xray showed everything looked ok apart from large areas of gas (phew). Her stomach had food in part of it and then empty so I don't think she had eaten much since Friday night. The vet gave her an injection and told me to give her zantec and try to get her eating. She wouldn't eat apart from a bit of kale last night, this morning I have given her some critical care mix although she is a real pain for taking it, she lets most of it come back out but we got some of it in. She is refusing everything I have offered her to eat.
The veg she gets every night is a broccoli floret, curly kale, 1 fine bean and sometimes some cabbage. Now I am wondering if I have caused the gas with these veg. I have seen them on lists of safe food for bunnies but I have also recently seen broccoli can cause gas and when I googled some info today I saw that kale and fine beans can also cause gas. I think I could get her eating today with some kale as she loves it but I am reluctant in case that makes the problem worse. Does anyone have experience if these veg are likely to be the problem. Also what veg might be better to avoid this problem (although I'm not sure trying anything new right now is a good idea). This isn't a sudden change to these veg or anything so I am surprised and my other bunny is ok. Maybe she's just having more problems now as she is elderly and hasn't been too well. Any advice is appreciated, thankyou
-dear Sammy$patch,-infant simethicone,-and lots of grasses-ie.timothy/orchard,etc.-quality-rabbit,pellets,-some treats,lots of water..rabbits are strictly herbivores,the non digestible grasses are to keep their ever growing teeth in order and their gi tract-running at optimum efficiency,-the pellets are for vitamins and digestible food--,some vegy,s do cause gas,which equals intestinal pain.,i hope this all helps,--sincerely james waller from the other kent wa.usa
 
I’m sorry no one has answered, and I don’t have any experience of this so I can’t advise. I know kale can cause gas in some bunnies and I had a bunny who couldn’t tolerate some fresh foods. Sending lots of vibes and hoping someone can help.

Thankyou :)
 
Yes, certain food can cause gas and bloating in rabbits, notably broccoli, cauliflower, and sometimes also kale and greens. It could be that her digestive system isn't working as well with these things, and whereas they didn't cause a problem before, they are now.

I don't know whether you've ever used Infacol? Infant gas meds and it's great for working the gas out of the system. The way Infacol works is to gather up small gas bubbles which on the whole don't respond well to gut contractions) into larger bubbles. These larger bubbles are far easier to pass with the rabbit's gut contractions.

It doesn't interact with any other meds and is not absorbed into the bloodstream, so there is no worry with using it alongside any other medication. Even specialist vets agree it's completely safe and will not harm or interact. It's worth a try - you can give 1 ml every hour for three doses. Let me know if you want any more info on it.

Can you perhaps feed a bit more fresh forage? Grass, rose leaves, brambles, dandelions, plantain etc - much easier to digest without problems.

Some info on stasis etc:

http://anyflip.com/dvpt/hzvv/basic

http://rabbitwelfare.co.uk/pdfs/ROWinter10p7.pdf

https://www.vin.com/apputil/content/defaultadv1.aspx?id=3846185&pid=11147

Thanks for the advice Mightymax, I gave her critical care mix yesterday but she does tend to spit it out/let it drool out her mouth. But we got some in her I think. I also gave her gentle stomach massages a few times which she seemed to like me doing. I had her back at the vets this morning as she still wouldn't eat. The vet gave her another 3 injections, meta something, loxicom and netagesic? (sorry for the spellings). I have to give her more zantec this evening along with some more loxicom and netagesic (the one you put on the gums). I also have to give her more critical care if she wont' eat. The vet didn't think it was because of the veg as I don't give her that much and it's not new, she's had the same for a long time. I am still going to cut out the broccoli I think as that is the one I read most about causing gas out of what I give her. Since being back from the vets she ate quite a few dandelion leaves and some grass, which she was refusing yesterday and before we went so I think the injections have helped. She hasn't eaten much but it's better than nothing. She's been eating little bits of grass throughout the afternoon. I will give more critical care a bit later if she doesn't eat more. It really upsets her when I try to do it so hoping she will eat enough! I have to take her back again in the morning even if she eats. She has been drinking quite a bit which she wouldn't yesterday so that's good. And she doesn't seem so uncomfortable. The vet says if she won't eat today either she might have to go on a drip tomorrow, fingers crossed she doesn't have to!!! I haven't ever used infacol, but I think I did read that somewhere to. I will look into that too, thankyou for the suggestion. She has lots of fresh grass (mainly because she still refuses all the different hays I have tried) and fresh dandelion leaves. I have some of those packets which have dried roots and leaves and stuff in. I don't have any fresh rose leaves. I had some brambles but I used up the ones we had in the garden, have to wait for them to grow again! I will keep you updated how she gets on. Thankyou :)
 
-dear Sammy$patch,-infant simethicone,-and lots of grasses-ie.timothy/orchard,etc.-quality-rabbit,pellets,-some treats,lots of water..rabbits are strictly herbivores,the non digestible grasses are to keep their ever growing teeth in order and their gi tract-running at optimum efficiency,-the pellets are for vitamins and digestible food--,some vegy,s do cause gas,which equals intestinal pain.,i hope this all helps,--sincerely james waller from the other kent wa.usa

Thankyou for the reply, Sammy is currently on Burgess excel mature nuggets, fresh grass and dandelion leaves, some veg and a few treats. I have some forage mix in a packet that I put in her food bowl with her veg. She hasn't eaten hay for months now unfortunately (that's in another thread) but normal grass she does eat. She normally drinks enough. The only thing she has eaten today is grass and dandelion leaves but it's better than nothing so fingers crossed!
 
Thankyou for the reply, Sammy is currently on Burgess excel mature nuggets, fresh grass and dandelion leaves, some veg and a few treats. I have some forage mix in a packet that I put in her food bowl with her veg. She hasn't eaten hay for months now unfortunately (that's in another thread) but normal grass she does eat. She normally drinks enough. The only thing she has eaten today is grass and dandelion leaves but it's better than nothing so fingers crossed!
Hello, I am sorry to hear your bunny is suffering with gas. In my experience I found that going pellet free helped my bunny. Excel hasn't really agreed with any of my bunnies as it tends to make them produce excess cecos.

If you don't mind I would like to share a few things I changed and saw a definite improvement.

I order hay from timothy hay.co.uk which they go absolutely mad for and Is the main staple of their diet.

I provide dried forage/ fresh herbs in the winter and fresh and dried the rest of the year. I try to replicate a wildie diet as much as possible so I would definitely never feed brocoli or treats. The only treats mine get are Chicory or dandelion roots. I also make the greens extra wet so they take on extra fluids. My bunnies main forage is Plantain and I buy that from Galens Garden. Also provide sticks to chew such as Apple or pear but not thick bark. It was also mentioned to me on here about stress elements. Does your bunny live in a noisey garden or house? Do you have any cats of dogs that may cause stress? Something that I found bunnies love is not blocking any thing. For example if they have a hidey house, pull it away from a corner so they can run freely behind (think like a Warren with different directions) I really hope some of these tips may help your little one

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Thanks for the advice Mightymax, I gave her critical care mix yesterday but she does tend to spit it out/let it drool out her mouth. But we got some in her I think. I also gave her gentle stomach massages a few times which she seemed to like me doing. I had her back at the vets this morning as she still wouldn't eat. The vet gave her another 3 injections, meta something, loxicom and netagesic? (sorry for the spellings). I have to give her more zantec this evening along with some more loxicom and netagesic (the one you put on the gums). I also have to give her more critical care if she wont' eat. The vet didn't think it was because of the veg as I don't give her that much and it's not new, she's had the same for a long time. I am still going to cut out the broccoli I think as that is the one I read most about causing gas out of what I give her. Since being back from the vets she ate quite a few dandelion leaves and some grass, which she was refusing yesterday and before we went so I think the injections have helped. She hasn't eaten much but it's better than nothing. She's been eating little bits of grass throughout the afternoon. I will give more critical care a bit later if she doesn't eat more. It really upsets her when I try to do it so hoping she will eat enough! I have to take her back again in the morning even if she eats. She has been drinking quite a bit which she wouldn't yesterday so that's good. And she doesn't seem so uncomfortable. The vet says if she won't eat today either she might have to go on a drip tomorrow, fingers crossed she doesn't have to!!! I haven't ever used infacol, but I think I did read that somewhere to. I will look into that too, thankyou for the suggestion. She has lots of fresh grass (mainly because she still refuses all the different hays I have tried) and fresh dandelion leaves. I have some of those packets which have dried roots and leaves and stuff in. I don't have any fresh rose leaves. I had some brambles but I used up the ones we had in the garden, have to wait for them to grow again! I will keep you updated how she gets on. Thankyou :)


You're welcome.

I am glad she is doing well on the Vetergesic, as a lot of bunnies get sleepy on it. On the gums is a wise move!

A drip, although I know you don't really want to do that, is often a very good thing for getting bunnies gong again. It can make them feel well in themselves and help them to regain their appetite.

The Infacol is here:

Infacol.co.uk and you can get it in any pharmacy. You probably read it from me, as I bang on about it's usefulness when rabbits have gas episodes.

Good luck and let me know if I can help in any way further x
 
Hello, I am sorry to hear your bunny is suffering with gas. In my experience I found that going pellet free helped my bunny. Excel hasn't really agreed with any of my bunnies as it tends to make them produce excess cecos.

If you don't mind I would like to share a few things I changed and saw a definite improvement.

I order hay from timothy hay.co.uk which they go absolutely mad for and Is the main staple of their diet.

I provide dried forage/ fresh herbs in the winter and fresh and dried the rest of the year. I try to replicate a wildie diet as much as possible so I would definitely never feed brocoli or treats. The only treats mine get are Chicory or dandelion roots. I also make the greens extra wet so they take on extra fluids. My bunnies main forage is Plantain and I buy that from Galens Garden. Also provide sticks to chew such as Apple or pear but not thick bark. It was also mentioned to me on here about stress elements. Does your bunny live in a noisey garden or house? Do you have any cats of dogs that may cause stress? Something that I found bunnies love is not blocking any thing. For example if they have a hidey house, pull it away from a corner so they can run freely behind (think like a Warren with different directions) I really hope some of these tips may help your little one

Sent from my GT-I9195 using Tapatalk

Hi, thankyou for the advice. Sammy lives indoors with us, she's a very chilled kind of bunny, she doesn't spook easily and there aren't any changes going on that could be causing stress. I'm about to write an update below of her progress today :)
 
Update:
Sammy has eaten quite a bit more grass and dandelion leaves today. The vet took blood this morning and should get the results tomorrow afternoon. She said Sammy's tummy felt ok not bloated or anything just quite empty. But she didn't need to go on a drip as she had been drinking a bit and eating a bit. I have to phone the vet in the morning to let her know how Sammy has been, I'm guessing we'll take it day by day at the moment. She said to give her as many dandelion leaves as she wants as she loves them and are good for her. She seems more comfortable today but still not her normal self, she's just sitting around a lot but I think she . She did have a couple of moments of mischief though which is a good sign! Fingers crossed for more grass and dandelion eating. She had loxicom, zantac and vetergesic twice today, and this morning the vet also gave her an antibiotic just in case as she had teeth problems before.
 
antibiotics

Update:
Sammy has eaten quite a bit more grass and dandelion leaves today. The vet took blood this morning and should get the results tomorrow afternoon. She said Sammy's tummy felt ok not bloated or anything just quite empty. But she didn't need to go on a drip as she had been drinking a bit and eating a bit. I have to phone the vet in the morning to let her know how Sammy has been, I'm guessing we'll take it day by day at the moment. She said to give her as many dandelion leaves as she wants as she loves them and are good for her. She seems more comfortable today but still not her normal self, she's just sitting around a lot but I think she . She did have a couple of moments of mischief though which is a good sign! Fingers crossed for more grass and dandelion eating. She had loxicom, zantac and vetergesic twice today, and this morning the vet also gave her an antibiotic just in case as she had teeth problems before.
dear Sammy&patch,--a facial,radiograph-would identify dental problems,everything starts in the mouth here,s a couple websites for info http://www.medirabbit.com http://www.bio.miami.edu/hare/poop.html sincerely james waller from the other kent,wa.st.usa--remember with antibiotics--must give probotics-:love:
 
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Update:
Sammy has eaten quite a bit more grass and dandelion leaves today. The vet took blood this morning and should get the results tomorrow afternoon. She said Sammy's tummy felt ok not bloated or anything just quite empty. But she didn't need to go on a drip as she had been drinking a bit and eating a bit. I have to phone the vet in the morning to let her know how Sammy has been, I'm guessing we'll take it day by day at the moment. She said to give her as many dandelion leaves as she wants as she loves them and are good for her. She seems more comfortable today but still not her normal self, she's just sitting around a lot but I think she . She did have a couple of moments of mischief though which is a good sign! Fingers crossed for more grass and dandelion eating. She had loxicom, zantac and vetergesic twice today, and this morning the vet also gave her an antibiotic just in case as she had teeth problems before.


How is Sammy this morning?
 
How is Sammy this morning?

Sammy has decided she doesn't want any grass or dandelion leaves today after eating quite a few overnight. She's drinking a fair bit but refusing most food. The weird thing is she's acting a lot more like herself, wanting attention, seeming to enjoy cuddles, being nosey and acting 'brighter'. But at other points she looks like she is pain like when she tried to go to the toilet and then she is ok again. She's done some small droppings but not much. I have phoned my vets, spoke to a receptionist and I'm just waiting for a call back from my normal vet. She is definitely interested in food but then she changes her mind. So she seems to have gone downhill from yesterday with eating but uphill in herself if you know what I mean. Yesterday she just kept going between her litter tray and this enclosed basket she sits in, like she just wanted to hide away. Today she has been out and about like her normal self just without wanting to eat! I will keep you updated.
 
Sammy has decided she doesn't want any grass or dandelion leaves today after eating quite a few overnight. She's drinking a fair bit but refusing most food. The weird thing is she's acting a lot more like herself, wanting attention, seeming to enjoy cuddles, being nosey and acting 'brighter'. But at other points she looks like she is pain like when she tried to go to the toilet and then she is ok again. She's done some small droppings but not much. I have phoned my vets, spoke to a receptionist and I'm just waiting for a call back from my normal vet. She is definitely interested in food but then she changes her mind. So she seems to have gone downhill from yesterday with eating but uphill in herself if you know what I mean. Yesterday she just kept going between her litter tray and this enclosed basket she sits in, like she just wanted to hide away. Today she has been out and about like her normal self just without wanting to eat! I will keep you updated.


How confusing! Did you get to speak with the vet?
 
How confusing! Did you get to speak with the vet?


Yes the vet phoned me yesterday evening, the blood tests showed something wrong with her kidneys. In September when they did her blood I'm pretty sure there was a slightly high something? with her kidneys that the vet had said wasn't a problem yet but we would have at the back of our minds, so I guess they have got worse. I had to take her in this morning for an injection (Laurabolin it says on the receipt) to help with her appetite, that the vet said we can do monthly I think. It was a different vet today but my normal vet wants to see her again tomorrow herself. As it was a phone call I can't remember all the things she told me but I will discuss options with her on Friday. she did mention a tablet that cats and dogs have but I think she said they aren't ideal for bunnies. I also didn't think to ask just how bad we're talking so I am going to clarify that on Friday too. My dads dog is elderly and has kidney problems, stage 3 I think, so I'm not sure if it is something similar with stages for Sammy or something else completely. I'll let you know!
 
Yes the vet phoned me yesterday evening, the blood tests showed something wrong with her kidneys. In September when they did her blood I'm pretty sure there was a slightly high something? with her kidneys that the vet had said wasn't a problem yet but we would have at the back of our minds, so I guess they have got worse. I had to take her in this morning for an injection (Laurabolin it says on the receipt) to help with her appetite, that the vet said we can do monthly I think. It was a different vet today but my normal vet wants to see her again tomorrow herself. As it was a phone call I can't remember all the things she told me but I will discuss options with her on Friday. she did mention a tablet that cats and dogs have but I think she said they aren't ideal for bunnies. I also didn't think to ask just how bad we're talking so I am going to clarify that on Friday too. My dads dog is elderly and has kidney problems, stage 3 I think, so I'm not sure if it is something similar with stages for Sammy or something else completely. I'll let you know!


Laurabolin is an anabolic steroid (not a corticosteroid) which helps appetite and builds muscle.

Yes there are tablets that can help with kidney issues - usually Fortekor, but I am sure the vet will get onto those if he feels it's necessary. It depends on how bad the results are. I never had any problems with rabbits on Fortekor.

I hope you can get some answers and clarity when you speak with the vet tomorrow.
Good luck xx
 
Laurabolin is an anabolic steroid (not a corticosteroid) which helps appetite and builds muscle.

Yes there are tablets that can help with kidney issues - usually Fortekor, but I am sure the vet will get onto those if he feels it's necessary. It depends on how bad the results are. I never had any problems with rabbits on Fortekor.

I hope you can get some answers and clarity when you speak with the vet tomorrow.
Good luck xx

Sammy wasn't doing too well last night, and was on and off good and bad today. We discussed options with the vet of maybe putting her down after all she's been through already and this is another issue now. We decided to see how she is over the weekend, we have a higher dose of vetergesic and going to do 3 times a day instead of 2. Continue with zantac. Put her back on loxicom temporarily. Also we have cisapride pills to crush up to give her too. If she doesn't pick up or is in pain or discomfort a lot over the weekend, even with all this help, we will likely be letting her go on Monday. I hate seeing her suffer, her quality of life this week hasn't been good. It's such a shame that it was only fairly recently she had her teeth filed again and she managed to bounce back quickly from the anaesthetic even though we all thought she wouldn't make it through. She was eating again quickly and her normal self. Fingers crossed for her, she's already had nearly 7 months from when she was first ill and we thought we were losing her then, but I would love to have some more time with her.
 
Sammy wasn't doing too well last night, and was on and off good and bad today. We discussed options with the vet of maybe putting her down after all she's been through already and this is another issue now. We decided to see how she is over the weekend, we have a higher dose of vetergesic and going to do 3 times a day instead of 2. Continue with zantac. Put her back on loxicom temporarily. Also we have cisapride pills to crush up to give her too. If she doesn't pick up or is in pain or discomfort a lot over the weekend, even with all this help, we will likely be letting her go on Monday. I hate seeing her suffer, her quality of life this week hasn't been good. It's such a shame that it was only fairly recently she had her teeth filed again and she managed to bounce back quickly from the anaesthetic even though we all thought she wouldn't make it through. She was eating again quickly and her normal self. Fingers crossed for her, she's already had nearly 7 months from when she was first ill and we thought we were losing her then, but I would love to have some more time with her.


Oh I'm sorry to hear this :(

It's so difficult when they are like this and it's looking so bleak. You've given her time that she wouldn't have had and that's a blessing for all of you, though of course things have been stressful as well.

I hope you can all have a peaceful weekend enjoying each others' company and when Monday comes feel you're able to take whatever decision needs to be taken.

My thoughts are with you xx
 
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