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Lazylops
23-09-2004, 03:04 PM
Anyone?I have had a call from a lady who lives in Ealing near Hanger lane?
(Sp)
She has two Rabbits both females; one of the Buns is dragging its
back legs behind it.
She is not willing to take this bun back to the vet for x-rays so it
has been left like this for I think she said two weeks.
She said she has a new baby & will not go near the Rabbits because
they are dirty, these buns are cashmere lops so I hate to think what
state they are in.
I have no room to take these Rabbits in I am full to bursting point.
I am however able to cover all vets costs no matter how much it costs
to try and put these buns right & I have a vet in Ealing so if you
can take these buns in or know someone who can please let me know
ASAP.
Jenny.
020 8894 5080
Amelia
23-09-2004, 03:16 PM
poor rabbits, I can't believe some people,
Do you know whether Jenny is wanting to keep the rabbits in London? I would be willing to have them in Eastbourne as have a spare hutch and run but don't know if that's too far, plus may need help with transport......
Bertie
23-09-2004, 03:34 PM
That's absolutely disgusting. How can she leave a rabbit paralysed for two weeks? If she can't even take care of two rabbits, I don't hold out much hope for her poor baby.
I can't really take the bunnies in, but if you decide you want someone to go round and thump her, I'm your woman.
Amelia
23-09-2004, 04:08 PM
Just thinking, is there any way this lady can be reported to RSPCA as she has obviously mistreated these two and what's going to happen to the otehr rabbit when it grows up????
bunnyhuggger
23-09-2004, 04:10 PM
Erm, I said that in my post too, but it's not here anymore............ADELE!!!! have you been pressing buttons again!!!! :shock: :lol:
Lazylops
23-09-2004, 04:19 PM
no Lynda, to cause maximum confusion I posted this on two threads..... :roll: :shock: I think that is where the confusion lies..... :?:
bunnyhuggger
23-09-2004, 04:36 PM
Ahhhh, that explains it then :lol: Sorry Adele, you're not responsible for pressing buttons this time :thumb:
Jaypot
23-09-2004, 04:39 PM
Can anyone help in getting them to me in North Wales?
I am disgusted that she can do this to the buns and leave the poor little one paralysed like that :evil:
I can take them if someone can get them to me - we have a marvellous vet and I'm used to disabled and sick buns.
bunnytales
23-09-2004, 04:51 PM
:cry: God this makes me so mad - what is wrong with folks!!!
I know Denny posted a good point in Rabbit Care section - has anyone suggested to Jenny to contact the RSPCA immediately to try and get something done - Once the bunnies have been removed 3rd hand prosecutions I think are always tricky and it may at least get the bunnies some immediate help!!-
I'm around the weekend if anyone needs any transport help through the Midlands area - just give me a yell.
I really hope these little bunnnies get some help quickly - it doesn't sound hopeful for them folks?
Andi, Boy of Destiny!
23-09-2004, 04:51 PM
As Bertie said, we can't take them in, but I'll certainly offer ferrying services if someone can take them in - and meet me somewhere I can easily get to and find!
edit
Just noticed bunnytales' offer; I could get them to the Midlands for transport onwards?
Lazylops
23-09-2004, 05:07 PM
Hi everyone, thanks so much for all your offers, but someone close to Jenny has come forward so we will see how things go from there.
Thanks again tho, you are all wonderful. :thumb:
Rallybunny
23-09-2004, 05:19 PM
:cry: Hope they're ok.
Denny
23-09-2004, 05:20 PM
I am totally lost now, I cant evern find the unlocked URGENT topic without going through Tamsin link, but if the RSPCA remove these bunnies they have a stronger case to be able to prosecute the owner, RSPCA's evidence will be stronger than general public. Word of mouth by the RSPCA is sometimes enough evidence + I would be very surprised if this lady refused the RSPCA access to these bunnies for fear a court order would be put into place, but there again, maybe this is why she has not approached RSPCA to rehome them, for fear of prosecution
Tamsin
23-09-2004, 05:23 PM
Sorry for the confusion, the unlocked one is in the Welfare section. I locked the others as there was confusion over which thread people were posting in and wanted the transport offers in one place.
Sorry didn't mean to cause more confusion :oops:
Tam
Bertie
23-09-2004, 05:26 PM
It's good if the RSPCA can see the conditions they're kept in, but if someone else is collecting them, try to get some photos. It's awkward to take them in the woman's home, but at least insist on taking the hutch and then take photos of that and the bunnies as soon as you're out of the house, so that at least you have the piccies to take to the RSPCA.
This woman is incredibly cruel and there's no way she should be allowed to get away with this. Otherwise her child will turn 5, demand a cute fuzzy pet, and remembering back to how easy it was to get rid of the last lot, she won't think twice about it.
Denny
23-09-2004, 05:37 PM
God I've pressed the wrong buttons now.
These buns need to be removed ASAP and RSPCA should have the power to do that straight away. all calls to RSPCA cruelty lines are confidential (as I found out) the women would not know who reported her.
I know that I sound a bit hard, and I hate hearing about any form of cruelty to animals but, if she gets away with it, acouple of years down the line when her children are old enough to start nagging for a bunny/gerbil/ what ever, what are the odds of things going wrong again?
everyone on here cares about what happens to these 2 buns and all the other unwanted bunnies out there, but cruelty is a different catagory - dont let her get away with it
AmberUK
23-09-2004, 05:38 PM
It's good if the RSPCA can see the conditions they're kept in, but if someone else is collecting them, try to get some photos. It's awkward to take them in the woman's home, but at least insist on taking the hutch and then take photos of that and the bunnies as soon as you're out of the house, so that at least you have the piccies to take to the RSPCA.
This woman is incredibly cruel and there's no way she should be allowed to get away with this. Otherwise her child will turn 5, demand a cute fuzzy pet, and remembering back to how easy it was to get rid of the last lot, she won't think twice about it.
She will probably justify it by saying she was protecting her child. Kinda have to feel sorry for the kid really at least the rabbits will get saved.
Denny
23-09-2004, 05:47 PM
It's good if the RSPCA can see the conditions they're kept in, but if someone else is collecting them, try to get some photos. It's awkward to take them in the woman's home, but at least insist on taking the hutch and then take photos of that and the bunnies as soon as you're out of the house, so that at least you have the piccies to take to the RSPCA.
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You need evidence inside her property as she can deny ever owning the rabbits and this can only be obtained with her consent otherwise you are treading on very dodgy ground. I am no expert but I would leave it to the RSPCA. Phone them, let them know that you are willing to pay bills and find a possible fosterer once they have been assessed by vet.
bunnymad
23-09-2004, 09:03 PM
She said she has a new baby & will not go near the Rabbits because
they are dirty[quote]
:shock: Like she has never used or seen "detol" or "savalon" :evil:
Go of the RSPCA :!: The only good thing is she has asked a bunny person for help, a bit too late, but atleast she has asked :!:
Sadly being in another country, I can not help on these issues :cry:
Please keep us informed on how these poor we buns get along.
Chin up as your doing the right thing. Sadly our animals can not stand up and talk for themselves, it takes strong ppl like us to do it for them and show them that humans can be kind and work to get their trust back!
I hope they are getting enough and proper water and food too :!:
Maybe the RSPCA could help with transport and prosecuting.
Keep us informed of how things go :!:
bronie
If your person nearby falls through then PM me. I'm in Reading but I can do a drive to Ealing Sunday or later. I could foster the buns for as long as they need while they're being treated and try to find them a forever home, I also live near quite a good bunny vet.
I understand what people say about calling in the RSPCA but my personal opinion is that the priority is getting the rabbits out of there. I know that this means she may not be prosecuted but I don't think the chances of her getting a lifetime ban are too good as they are "just" rabbits ( :evil: ), which means in a few years she could have some more anyway.
Good luck with this whatever you decide, please keep us posted on what happens.
Tamsin
24-09-2004, 07:45 PM
I just wanted to let everyone know the buns are now in safe and experienced hands with Anna who does loads of fostering and bunny work.
To quote her "they are OK, and lovely, and are receiving the very best of TLC from me, and vet care urgently."
Tam
Adele
24-09-2004, 08:08 PM
I just wanted to let everyone know the buns are now in safe and experienced hands with Anna who does loads of fostering and bunny work.
To quote her "they are OK, and lovely, and are receiving the very best of TLC from me, and vet care urgently."
Tam
Oh thank goodness for that Tamsin, I have been so concerned about these poor bunnies, as has everyone else.
That is marvellous news.... :D
Denny
24-09-2004, 08:47 PM
I really am glad that they are ok, was the situation as bad as it sounded? please keep us updated on their progress. I just hate all forms of cuelty, it makes your stomach churn
FurryFriends
13-10-2004, 01:14 AM
Have just seen this thread and thought I would put my spoke in!
Ealing is one area that I deal with.
It was a good decision to get the rabbits out. The RSPCA are not particularly brilliant in this area and being that they are long haired would have been euthanased regardless (because they are long-haired). They have taken alot worse from people and nothing has been done which has angered people dealing with the situation.
Also, if a prosecution was bought forward (which it wouldn't have been for a couple of matted rabbits - even if one had paralysed back legs) the RSPCA would have hung onto the rabbits and they would have done the disappearing act that they so often do in the London area (if you know what I mean :x )
So these bunnies were definately pulled out at the right time and the right decision made.
On the other hand, being the London area, I am not surprised that the RSPCA don't prosecute for alot of cruelty that goes on in this area. There is just SO much.
I have picked up countless animals from all over London that were in a disgusting state and the reason that I didn't bother with the RSPCA is because I know alot of people that work there.
When a prosecution case is put forward it has to go past head office, who have to decide whether it is worth their bother. If every case was prosecuted they would go bust pretty quick because the law for animals is so **** in this country.
Most of the time they just have to grin and bear it, which is something I don't have to do!
I make it VERY clear on my opinion of people to their face when I collect the animal and tell them exactly what I think.
There isn't much more that I can do than that and then try and pick up the pieces and try to pull the animal back, although often it is far too late. :(
Emma
AmberUK
13-10-2004, 01:28 AM
The RSPCA seems to not get much good press from anyone who does work in the rescues. I still think a charity being the way to prosecute people is just wrong.
Tamsin
13-10-2004, 01:34 AM
Btw, this is Sandy one of the bunnies:
http://www.rabbitrehome.org.uk/images/rabbit_1431.jpg
She's now up for adoption, her sister is still receiving treatment in foster care.
Tamsin
AmberUK
13-10-2004, 01:49 AM
oh shes a lovely little thing. I am sure she will get snapped up in no time. Are the bunnies listed on rr?
Tamsin
13-10-2004, 01:52 AM
Yes, Sandy's here - http://www.rabbitrehome.org.uk/moreinfo.asp?RabID=1431
AmberUK
13-10-2004, 02:02 AM
Ohhhh shes so cute.
Jaypot
16-10-2004, 09:31 PM
Well, I'm happy to say that come the beginning of November we are going to be the new mum and dad to Camille :D Camille is the sister of Sandy who is up for re-homing. Camille is also the little bun that has some spinal issues and has trouble hopping about sometimes - apparantly she hops sidewards :shock: She's going to be my little crab :lol: :lol:
We are really looking forward to having Camille join the Hairy Mob - she sounds as though she is a tough little cookie and a very loving one at that :love: She is probably getting spayed next week so if you could all keep a special little girl in your thoughts and prayers please.
I have one picture of her - I will send it to Tam to see if she can put it up for you to see this little fighter :D
Tamsin
17-10-2004, 01:16 AM
Here you go :)
http://www.rabbitrehome.org.uk/temp/image002.jpg
furball
17-10-2004, 10:27 PM
Btw, this is Sandy one of the bunnies:
http://www.rabbitrehome.org.uk/images/rabbit_1431.jpg
She's now up for adoption, her sister is still receiving treatment in foster care.
Tamsin
In spite of her previous bad luck, Sandy is a gorgeous sweet bunny- an absolute star!! :love: I sat with her on my lap for about half an hour when I went to the Mayhew last week and then she did this excellent pose for me. She would love a new boyfriend and lots of cuddles from a new owner - she told me! Has anyone got a lonely little boy who needs a good woman?? I was very tempted myself, but am hoping to do some fostering so don't really have the room.
Tamsin
17-10-2004, 10:45 PM
I had someone email me looking for a cashmere and I gave her Sandy's details, she thought she was lovely and I think was planning to go see her. So cross your toes everyone :)
Tam
furball
18-10-2004, 09:24 AM
I had someone email me looking for a cashmere and I gave her Sandy's details, she thought she was lovely and I think was planning to go see her. So cross your toes everyone :)
Tam
Thats great news Tam!! :thumb:
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