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Please ALWAYS advocate for your rabbit - Toby's story - update 26/08 post 48

Kavanne

Mama Doe
A bunny on preloved was bought to my attention a week ago. Marked as 'disabled' having trouble with his back legs, but able to still get around. Not knowing what I was going to find I went to go and get him on Thursday. As soon as I saw him it was apparent something awful had happened to one of his back legs. Perhaps a terrible break that wasn't treated. It was confirmed not to be a birth defect by the lady I picked him up from. The accident had not happened whilst he was in her possession.

On Friday I booked him in with my normal vet. They have treated, spayed, vaccinated all of my rabbits since I moved to Essex. I asked for him to be vaccinated and to book him in for an X ray to see what we were dealing with with regards to his leg and spine, and to see what options may be available to help him, surgically or otherwise.

As soon as I removed Toby from his carrier, the vet said; This rabbit needs to be put to sleep to end his suffering. I offered to put him down on the floor to show one of his legs is functioning and it is just the other back leg we need to address. She said he wouldn't cope with 3 legs. He is a 1kg netherland dwarf who is 1 year old. He has everything going for him as a tripod bunny. If he was a 5 year old continental giant, I may have agreed with her. I said to her I have a lot of experience with rabbits and with all due respect to her as a vet, I do know what a rabbit in pain looks like, and how one behaves. This is not one.

She took him out the back and said she would refer to a colleague. She came back and said they agreed, there was nothing that could be done for him. I said to her I want to get a second opinion before making any decisions. The vet said she would call the RSPCA as this was a welfare issue about his quality of life. They had not bought Toby back out to me at this point. I had to ask 3 times and wait nearly an hour before they would return him to me. The vet says she is waiting for a call back from the RSPCA about this. I finally had Toby returned to the consulting room, and was asked not to leave. After another 15 minutes I instructed my boyfriend to leave with Toby and go immediately home and stay with him. Do not answer the door and do not leave the house. He snuck out the practice whilst reception were busy with Toby.

I waited another 15 mins and no one at the vets came out to update me. I politely informed reception that I had been there an hour and a half and I would be going now. I advised they were welcome to pass on all my contact details to the RSPCA and I would cooperate with anything they wanted to do.

Then the real work started. Toby is bright, eats well, moves, is curious about his surrounding, and he even gives grooms to humans. He does all the things I would expect of a normal rabbit, just a bit wonkily. He is not in pain. It was decided, with a friend, that we would move Toby to her house and the next morning he was booked in to see a vet at the Cambridge Veterinary Practice. We could not see exotic specialist Ian Cope but we felt it was important to get a second opinion asap and have him vaccinated for protection.

We spent the evening setting him up in her spare room, putting down mats so he could get traction and giving him space to move, things to climb on, all with the aim of building muscle in his good leg as he has been kept in an indoor cage recently and goodness knows what he was kept in before that.

This morning we visited Cambridge veterinary group. If they had assessed him and agreed with my vet, I would have of course done the humane thing for him. We were up front with the vet about why we were there and what happened. She thoroughly examined Toby, something my vet had not even attempted to do. She believes the back leg was broken very high up, and then healed twisted underneath him. He allowed her to examine and manipulate the leg without showing any signs of pain or discomfort. Without x ray yet, she believes we may be looking at an amputation to make it easier for him to get around, as currently he often catches the leg on things. She says he had a very full tummy! She agreed Toby does NOT need to be put to sleep. She agreed we should investigate further, allow him to build up strength in his leg and allow Ian Cope to assess him when he is back (only another week). She also, most importantly, said she would report the findings of her assessment to the RSPCA if asked. Most importantly for today, he was vaccinated.

I am expecting a call or visit from the RSPCA next week. Toby will not be here and I will not tell them where he is. He will be seeing Ian Cope in the next couple of weeks to assess him again and so that we can start to formulate a treatment plan for him.

No, Toby's life expectancy may not be that of a normal rabbit. But he fought through a terrible injury, alone, to survive. I am not giving up on him now. Always advocate for your rabbit.


If your heart tells you the vet is wrong, then LISTEN.
 
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" If your heart tells you the vet is wrong".........I agree whole heartedly..........this has happened to me many times over the years.......intuition, understanding, experience...and patience usually pays off....well IME. Well done Kavanne. xx
 
He looks such a sweetheart! I'm by no means a rabbit expert but I agree, he's clearly not in pain. He looks very bright.
 
It's wonderful you knew what the right thing to do was and stuck to it! He's adorable and does look very happy. And at only 1 year old he should have many happy years left. :)

" If your heart tells you the vet is wrong".........I agree whole heartedly..........this has happened to me many times over the years.......intuition, understanding, experience...and patience usually pays off....well IME. Well done Kavanne. xx

100% agree. My rule is always listen to your gut. I hate when people act like vets should be trusted and listened to always. These people have clearly never had a bad experience with a vet before.

Also I think it's really smart that you know not to let the RSPCA see him. Many people blindly trust them too, thinking they couldn't possibly make the wrong decision in regards to an animal's welfare but you just never know if they might be just as clueless as the vets and seize him on grounds of animal cruelty. Sadly that does happen.
 
What a lovely little bun, so perky and most importantly - full of life!
Well done sticking to your gut feeling.
Best wishes with getting him completely on track.
 
Ahh!

Toby is a little Siamese Smoke Pearl ND, just like my late CX (my avatar) and late Zipper (a bunny I adopted many years ago).

He moves quite well for a bunny with a bad hip/leg, and he does not seem to be in pain given his speed, eating, and especially kissing. If he was mine, I would want to make sure such a sweet soul got every chance at life.

Does he have a darker patch of fur only on his bad hip/leg? I wonder if that is from his licking an injury.
 
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his 'dark patch' is partly the result of how you see him - as his paler tummy is twisted up at present so you can see more of it than expected. All his legs are quite dark.
 
I'm so glad you got a second opinion and now Toby has a second chance at life :love:

I also thing it's very sensible that you snuck Toby out & moved him where the RSPCA can't find him as they can be a law into themselves sometimes - some things that another rabbit couldn't cope with, another can & can recover

I hope Toby has a very long life with you and proves your first vet wrong :love:


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Well done, Toby is so lucky you answered the ad. He reminds me of my bridge bun Rosie, she fought right to the end. I'll never forget her
 
So glad you've fought for Toby. Should this thread be removed though? People have snooped around on the forum before now, and posts on here have now disclosed where the bunny is?
 
So glad you've fought for Toby. Should this thread be removed though? People have snooped around on the forum before now, and posts on here have now disclosed where the bunny is?

I have already flagged it up to the Mods as I know for a fact that the RSPCA (HO) do read this Forum

Hope that Toby will have a long and happy life now he will be receiving good care and any Vet treatment necessary xx
 
I have already flagged it up to the Mods as I know for a fact that the RSPCA (HO) do read this Forum

Hope that Toby will have a long and happy life now he will be receiving good care and any Vet treatment necessary xx
I hope the thread will not be deleted but I have asked mods to remove the post that may reveal his location
 
Well done to you for helping this lovely little chap. I hope he has a happy and healthy life for as long as possible.
 
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