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lenslady
19-06-2015, 04:28 PM
I have just saw a flea on Bo, he is white so was really easy to spot, I don't see any other signs of an infestation or any more fleas. I expect they are coming of the cats as i really do have trouble this time of year with them no matter how much i flea them. I use advantage which i get monthly of my vets and they have been done this month already! Hopefully it was just the odd flea but I can't abide themas i am allergic to them and i come out in massive bumps. Do the vets do a rabbit flea treatment or shall i get something from the pet shop? I have used the bob martin mite treatment for rabbits and i think it worked on gypsy because her dandruff cleared up but mites and fleas are different parasites. xx

Jack's-Jane
19-06-2015, 04:32 PM
I have just saw a flea on Bo, he is white so was really easy to spot, I don't see any other signs of an infestation or any more fleas. I expect they are coming of the cats as i really do have trouble this time of year with them no matter how much i flea them. I use advantage which i get monthly of my vets and they have been done this month already! Hopefully it was just the odd flea but I can't abide themas i am allergic to them and i come out in massive bumps. Do the vets do a rabbit flea treatment or shall i get something from the pet shop? I have used the bob martin mite treatment for rabbits and i think it worked on gypsy because her dandruff cleared up but mites and fleas are different parasites. xx

I wouldn't use anything from a Pet Shop, they are seldom that useful. You can obtain Advantage for Rabbits :

http://www.vetuk.co.uk/advantage-flea-control-advantage-for-cats-c-3_660_873/advantage-40-small-cats-small-dogs-and-rabbits-4-pipettes-p-1173

Are all your Rabbits vaccinated ?

Fluffybunny54
19-06-2015, 04:35 PM
Hi, You have to be careful with fleas and rabbits. Some flea treatments will kill buns. The vet would give a treatment that won't harm bunnies. Are your bunnies vaccinated against myxi? If not you really need to get that done. Good luck!

MightyMax
19-06-2015, 04:39 PM
I have just saw a flea on Bo, he is white so was really easy to spot, I don't see any other signs of an infestation or any more fleas. I expect they are coming of the cats as i really do have trouble this time of year with them no matter how much i flea them. I use advantage which i get monthly of my vets and they have been done this month already! Hopefully it was just the odd flea but I can't abide themas i am allergic to them and i come out in massive bumps. Do the vets do a rabbit flea treatment or shall i get something from the pet shop? I have used the bob martin mite treatment for rabbits and i think it worked on gypsy because her dandruff cleared up but mites and fleas are different parasites. xx

Don't worry, it happens!

In the past I have used Advantage for Rabbits when a foster has come in with fleas :shock: That's what the Rescue Centre always used and recommended. I don't know if you can get it in a Pet Shop - it's probably possible.

I'm sure your rabbits are all vaccinated, aren't they? If not, take them asap, just in case. Do your cats go outside? If so, they may bring rabbit fleas in with them, a common vector for myxi.

lenslady
19-06-2015, 04:40 PM
I wouldn't use anything from a Pet Shop, they are seldom that useful. You can obtain Advantage for Rabbits :

http://www.vetuk.co.uk/advantage-flea-control-advantage-for-cats-c-3_660_873/advantage-40-small-cats-small-dogs-and-rabbits-4-pipettes-p-1173

Are all your Rabbits vaccinated ?


Thank you. No they are not as yet. I wasn't sure if they really need doing being indoors and I have heard some rabbits have reactions which i am a bit anxious about, i know that sounds irresponsible but i am not 100% happy having them done. My cats and dogs are vaccinated and chipped. I see where your going with this though in regard to fleas having diseases :roll:. Vaccinations are not expensive so that does not bother me, its more the fear of having them done. Is it best to have them done? is their a risk, especially with the little one? xx

MightyMax
19-06-2015, 04:42 PM
Thank you. No they are not as yet. I wasn't sure if they really need doing being indoors and I have heard some rabbits have reactions which i am a bit anxious about, i know that sounds irresponsible but i am not 100% happy having them done. My cats and dogs are vaccinated and chipped. I see where your going with this though in regard to fleas having diseases :roll:. Vaccinations are not expensive so that does not bother me, its more the fear of having them done. Is it best to have them done? is their a risk, especially with the little one? xx

For the reasons I've mentioned (cats bringing rabbit fleas in) then I would *definitely* get them all vaccinated.

I only ever don't vaccinate when a rabbit is severely health compromised

lenslady
19-06-2015, 04:43 PM
Don't worry, it happens!

In the past I have used Advantage for Rabbits when a foster has come in with fleas :shock: That's what the Rescue Centre always used and recommended. I don't know if you can get it in a Pet Shop - it's probably possible.

I'm sure your rabbits are all vaccinated, aren't they? If not, take them asap, just in case. Do your cats go outside? If so, they may bring rabbit fleas in with them, a common vector for myxi.

:shock:, No they are not yet, I'm a bit scared they will get ill. I had a vets appointment today and i cancelled it as Bo is fine. What are the side effects? because if i have the 3 done together will i able to watch the 3 of them at the same time or shall i do them separately? xx

Jack's-Jane
19-06-2015, 04:44 PM
Thank you. No they are not as yet. I wasn't sure if they really need doing being indoors and I have heard some rabbits have reactions which i am a bit anxious about, i know that sounds irresponsible but i am not 100% happy having them done. My cats and dogs are vaccinated and chipped. I see where your going with this though in regard to fleas having diseases :roll:. Vaccinations are not expensive so that does not bother me, its more the fear of having them done. Is it best to have them done? is their a risk, especially with the little one? xx

All Rabbits need to be vaccinated. Both Myxomatosis and VHD can be spread via blood sucking insects-eg fleas. IMO vaccination is an absolute essential to do all we can to protect our Rabbits from two deadly diseases. The minimal risk of vaccination is absolutely nothing compared to the risk of Myxomatosis/VHD in an unvaccinated Rabbit

http://www.houserabbit.co.uk/resources/content/leaflet_pdfs/vacination28.8.07.pdf

lenslady
19-06-2015, 04:47 PM
For the reasons I've mentioned (cats bringing rabbit fleas in) then I would *definitely* get them all vaccinated.

I only ever don't vaccinate when a rabbit is severely health compromised

Ok, i will book them in. Is it a combined vaccination or a separate lot? I've seen a lot of posts on here where buns have become ill from the combined one.

This is my vets and they have Rabbit specialists and they have been amazing with my cats and dogs.


http://www.companioncare.co.uk/find-a-practice/companion-care-truro/

lenslady
19-06-2015, 04:49 PM
All Rabbits need to be vaccinated. Both Myxomatosis and VHD can be spread via blood sucking insects-eg fleas. IMO vaccination is an absolute essential to do all we can to protect our Rabbits from two deadly diseases. The minimal risk of vaccination is absolutely nothing compared to the risk of Myxomatosis/VHD in an unvaccinated Rabbit

http://www.houserabbit.co.uk/resources/content/leaflet_pdfs/vacination28.8.07.pdf


Ok thank you. I'l get them booked in for next week and they can also look at Burberry for me in regard to his neuter. Should i be aware of side effects? xx

MightyMax
19-06-2015, 04:53 PM
Ok, i will book them in. Is it a combined vaccination or a separate lot? I've seen a lot of posts on here where buns have become ill from the combined one.

This is my vets and they have Rabbit specialists and they have been amazing with my cats and dogs.


http://www.companioncare.co.uk/find-a-practice/companion-care-truro/

It is one vaccination per rabbit, combining myxi and VHD. The side effects can be a transient fever and possibly a 'lump' at the injection site which disappears. However, the majority of rabbits have no side effects at all. I really would consider getting them done!

lenslady
19-06-2015, 04:59 PM
It is one vaccination per rabbit, combining myxi and VHD. The side effects can be a transient fever and possibly a 'lump' at the injection site which disappears. However, the majority of rabbits have no side effects at all. I really would consider getting them done!

Definitely getting them in for next week, will phone the vets on Monday for an appointment. I should have known about the fleas carrying germs and no matter how much they are house rabbits, fleas are coming in from god knows where. I think they will be ok, it's just the little one i am more worried about but i'l have a word with my vet and see what he says because Bo is still very small for his age. xx

Jack's-Jane
19-06-2015, 05:05 PM
Ok thank you. I'l get them booked in for next week and they can also look at Burberry for me in regard to his neuter. Should i be aware of side effects? xx

The Vet will health check every Rabbit before the vaccination is given. The Vet will also re-assure you about the microscopic risks of side effects. This is the vaccine data sheet:

http://www.noahcompendium.co.uk/MSD_Animal_Health/Nobivac_Myxo-RHD_lyophilisate_and_solvent_for_suspension_for_in jection_for_rabbits/-67996.html

I have seen the devastating consequences of a VHD outbreak amongst unvaccinated Rabbits (not mine). It really is utterly horrific. The deaths were all preventable. I would only not vaccinate a Rabbit if he/she was severely health compromised.

MightyMax
19-06-2015, 05:06 PM
Definitely getting them in for next week, will phone the vets on Monday for an appointment. I should have known about the fleas carrying germs and no matter how much they are house rabbits, fleas are coming in from god knows where. I think they will be ok, it's just the little one i am more worried about but i'l have a word with my vet and see what he says because Bo is still very small for his age. xx

Rabbits can be vaccinated from 5 weeks old:

http://www.noahcompendium.co.uk/MSD_Animal_Health/Nobivac_Myxo-RHD_lyophilisate_and_solvent_for_suspension_for_in jection_for_rabbits/-67996.html

Your life is nothing short of eventful since you got the rabbits, Lenslady :shock:

lenslady
19-06-2015, 05:16 PM
The Vet will health check every Rabbit before the vaccination is given. The Vet will also re-assure you about the microscopic risks of side effects. This is the vaccine data sheet:

http://www.noahcompendium.co.uk/MSD_Animal_Health/Nobivac_Myxo-RHD_lyophilisate_and_solvent_for_suspension_for_in jection_for_rabbits/-67996.html

I have seen the devastating consequences of a VHD outbreak amongst unvaccinated Rabbits (not mine). It really is utterly horrific. The deaths were all preventable. I would only not vaccinate a Rabbit if he/she was severely health compromised.

Thank you, I will read that and take it on board. I assume mine are all healthy apart from little ones small size but he has grown and gained nearly a pound in weight since having him so he might be fine.


Rabbits can be vaccinated from 5 weeks old:

http://www.noahcompendium.co.uk/MSD_Animal_Health/Nobivac_Myxo-RHD_lyophilisate_and_solvent_for_suspension_for_in jection_for_rabbits/-67996.html

Your life is nothing short of eventful since you got the rabbits, Lenslady :shock:

I know. I would assume the breeder of Gypsy and Bo has had all her Rabbits vaccinated. Gone are the days of ignorant rabbit ownership in years past when my father had them. I am sure they will do fine after the vac's but then it will be the worry of them recovering from neuters :roll:. Almost certainly eventful :lol:

lenslady
19-06-2015, 05:23 PM
Also we are thinking of buying and setting up a large 12x6 shed in my front garden, insulating it and attaching a run but it is going to cost me nearly 700 to do this and September i can afford to have this done, so hopefully they can go out in the day and come in at night. I'm doing this because i will be back at uni then and i can't leave them alone all day in a small pen area. xx

MightyMax
19-06-2015, 05:57 PM
Also we are thinking of buying and setting up a large 12x6 shed in my front garden, insulating it and attaching a run but it is going to cost me nearly 700 to do this and September i can afford to have this done, so hopefully they can go out in the day and come in at night. I'm doing this because i will be back at uni then and i can't leave them alone all day in a small pen area. xx

Your bunnies are very lucky! This sounds like a splendid idea :D

lenslady
19-06-2015, 06:06 PM
Your bunnies are very lucky! This sounds like a splendid idea :D

That will be my student bursery gone :lol: I am very lucky to have all the photographic equipment i need for now so my bursery can go to the Buns :love:

MightyMax
19-06-2015, 06:20 PM
That will be my student bursery gone :lol: I am very lucky to have all the photographic equipment i need for now so my bursery can go to the Buns :love:

Oh my goodness! Well I hope they don't repay you by eating too much carpet and causing you vet hassle :shock:

Babsie
19-06-2015, 06:31 PM
The shed and run sound a lovely idea but is there any way you could put them in your back garden? Just thinking I would be scared to leave my rabbits out in a run in my front garden.

Liz47
19-06-2015, 06:36 PM
Hope you get the fleas under control quickly and don't spot any more and good luck for your vet trip re vaccines :) I don't think you should be worried about side effects, you may have seen a fair few posts on here about rabbits sadly suffering side effects from the vaccines but think of all the bunnies that are absolutely fine after their vaccine, people just don't post about it as nothing has happened so you're more likely to read about bad things, not all the many bunnies that are fine!

lenslady
19-06-2015, 06:38 PM
The shed and run sound a lovely idea but is there any way you could put them in your back garden? Just thinking I would be scared to leave my rabbits out in a run in my front garden.

No way possible :( My back garden isn't that much bigger than the front but its all concrete steps. I hate my back yard it is terrible, I hate it. It would cost such a lot of money to do it, which i don't have. Also the light out back is terrible. I would love to set my back yard up for them but don't think i could afford that this year. xx

lenslady
19-06-2015, 06:50 PM
Hope you get the fleas under control quickly and don't spot any more and good luck for your vet trip re vaccines :) I don't think you should be worried about side effects, you may have seen a fair few posts on here about rabbits sadly suffering side effects from the vaccines but think of all the bunnies that are absolutely fine after their vaccine, people just don't post about it as nothing has happened so you're more likely to read about bad things, not all the many bunnies that are fine!

Thank you and that is very true :love: xx

Babsie
19-06-2015, 07:22 PM
No way possible :( My back garden isn't that much bigger than the front but its all concrete steps. I hate my back yard it is terrible, I hate it. It would cost such a lot of money to do it, which i don't have. Also the light out back is terrible. I would love to set my back yard up for them but don't think i could afford that this year. xx

I understand - any sort of work in the garden is just horrendously expensive. I'm sure you wouldn't consider putting them somewhere that wasn't safe.

lenslady
19-06-2015, 07:31 PM
I understand - any sort of work in the garden is just horrendously expensive. I'm sure you wouldn't consider putting them somewhere that wasn't safe.

They would be absolutely fine outside, I would make sure they were safe. I would be home just after 4ish but I leave 6 am in the morning. We live on quite a quiet estate. It would never be as safe as the back but I can't do the back this year. They would be back inside for their evening meal and night time and back out in the morning before I leave. Luckily we don't have any foxes around here. My son will probably be at home for most of the day and he can always padlock up if he is off out. I also share my front with a neighbour and she is pretty good at being the neighbour hood watch :lol: xx

Jack's-Jane
19-06-2015, 07:44 PM
They would be absolutely fine outside, I would make sure they were safe. I would be home just after 4ish but I leave 6 am in the morning. We live on quite a quiet estate. It would never be as safe as the back but I can't do the back this year. They would be back inside for their evening meal and night time and back out in the morning before I leave. Luckily we don't have any foxes around here. My son will probably be at home for most of the day and he can always padlock up if he is off out. I also share my front with a neighbour and she is pretty good at being the neighbour hood watch :lol: xx

Would they be indoors all the time once the cold weather returns ? Rabbits dont cope well with vast changes in temperature and in the winter they would get too cold outdoors if they were indoors overnight. Unless they were in an unheated conservatory or something similar.

lenslady
19-06-2015, 07:56 PM
Would they be indoors all the time once the cold weather returns ? Rabbits dont cope well with vast changes in temperature and in the winter they would get too cold outdoors if they were indoors overnight. Unless they were in an unheated conservatory or something similar.

I am not putting them outside because I don't want them indoors, its more of a case of their daily space and enrichment. It gets extremely cold here in Cornwall from about November onwards not to mention the horrible fire works. We normally have an Indian summer here in September through till the end of October. I just think it would be really good for them and it would ease my life a little. I am just as happy to have them indoors, I just think it would be a great situation to have. xx

Babsie
19-06-2015, 08:10 PM
As Jane said, rabbits don't cope well with different temperatures so they would be fine outdoors with a warm shed and plenty of bedding. Or you could keep them indoors. What they can't tolerate is going from spending the night indoors to then going outdoors during the day, and vice versa. So from October - April it should be one or the other.

Jack's-Jane
19-06-2015, 08:42 PM
As Jane said, rabbits don't cope well with different temperatures so they would be fine outdoors with a warm shed and plenty of bedding. Or you could keep them indoors. What they can't tolerate is going from spending the night indoors to then going outdoors during the day, and vice versa. So from October - April it should be one or the other.

^^^^^^^^^^^ That's what I was trying to say

MightyMax
19-06-2015, 10:26 PM
They would be absolutely fine outside, I would make sure they were safe. I would be home just after 4ish but I leave 6 am in the morning. We live on quite a quiet estate. It would never be as safe as the back but I can't do the back this year. They would be back inside for their evening meal and night time and back out in the morning before I leave. Luckily we don't have any foxes around here. My son will probably be at home for most of the day and he can always padlock up if he is off out. I also share my front with a neighbour and she is pretty good at being the neighbour hood watch :lol: xx

I know how much you love your buns, and am quite sure you will always look after them 5* :D

They are very lucky to have landed with you!

lenslady
20-06-2015, 05:44 PM
As Jane said, rabbits don't cope well with different temperatures so they would be fine outdoors with a warm shed and plenty of bedding. Or you could keep them indoors. What they can't tolerate is going from spending the night indoors to then going outdoors during the day, and vice versa. So from October - April it should be one or the other.



^^^^^^^^^^^ That's what I was trying to say

Thank you, will be very careful about the temperature changes. It might be that i might change my mind after what you have said and put my money to good use with some of the indoor set ups i have seen. I was just worried about them being penned in for the day whilst at uni.

xx

lenslady
20-06-2015, 05:48 PM
I know how much you love your buns, and am quite sure you will always look after them 5* :D

They are very lucky to have landed with you!


Thank you :love: Somebody has very kindly helped me out with some treatment for the Buns from this forum :love: .Such a kind generous offer of help. Thank you all for your advice. I really do take it on board and I believe I am a better Rabbit owner from being on this site. If i don't ask or suggest things on here then I will never learn or get the appropriate advice.
JJ has always been very supportive with fantastic advice and I do listen and take it on board, so thank you very much for that JJ and thank you to MM too. xx

Suzi Wong
20-06-2015, 05:59 PM
Not sure if you've used the stuff from the pet shop recently but if you have, I think I have read somewhere that you should wait a while before using the advantage flea treatment. I'm not completely 100% about this but am sure someone on here will be able to advise you :)

lenslady
20-06-2015, 06:06 PM
Not sure if you've used the stuff from the pet shop recently but if you have, I think I have read somewhere that you should wait a while before using the advantage flea treatment. I'm not completely 100% about this but am sure someone on here will be able to advise you :)

Hi Suzi, I used the Bob Martin mite treatment on Gypsy about 4 weeks ago now. The other 2 have never been treated. So I will double check that. Thanks again Suzi for your kind offer of help :love:. xxxxxxx