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Springfield24
26-05-2015, 11:30 AM
http://news.sky.com/story/1490826/danish-radio-dj-kills-rabbit-live-on-air

what a monster

honeybunny
26-05-2015, 11:35 AM
I think killing something for a publicity stunt is not acceptable
However..I can see their point in that people who eat meat are complaining.
The DJs ate the rabbit afterwards and pointed out he had a better life and quicker death than most animals bred for meat.
They wanted to show the hypocrisy of people who buy little plastic wrapped parcels of meat from the shops and totally distance their brain from the fact those parcels were part of an animal that probably suffered an awful life and even worse death so they can enjoy a barbeque ect
If they had live animals in supermarkets being killed in public I expect the demand for meat would fall drastically

Shrinkie
26-05-2015, 11:48 AM
I dont agree with the line of thinking at all. Just because I eat meat doesnt mean I have no place in welfare and doesnt mean that anyone who eats meat arent careful to source a fairly raised quality of meat. Same with people buying eggs and milk surely or even leather.

I dont think they can tell me a twitching rabbit has 100% been destroyed pain free either.

And i really think their act was hypocritical in itself. Trying to make aan example of meat eaters saying by using a rabbit as bait, i fail to see how is differenydifferent from the agriculture they are pinpointing in the first place.

happybun
26-05-2015, 11:51 AM
I don't care what excuse he makes up after the fact - his behaviour was inappropriate and shocking. Killing animals for food, in context, isn't unexpected, even if it is distasteful to some. If you look for that, you'll find it. But when you're taking part in a radio debate, you don't expect an animal to be killed.

Oompa-Loompa
26-05-2015, 11:52 AM
Absolutely disgusting. Poor bunny :cry:

SarahP
26-05-2015, 11:54 AM
To me it doesn't sound in any way a humane killing, and entirely like a publicity stunt.

honeybunny
26-05-2015, 11:55 AM
I am not saying I think it was right..just saying I can see the point they are trying to make
and if you think an animal twitching a few times is inhumane then try watching film of abbatoirs..even freedom food ones

Sarah1991
26-05-2015, 11:58 AM
I just saw this as well, its vile and disgusting.

I get the ''point'' he was trying to make but to murder an innocent animal for a stunt and for shock value isn't the answer. Why not just speak out about the conditions on farms or about becoming a vegetarian? Anything surely would be better than this...

SarahP
26-05-2015, 12:00 PM
I just saw this as well, its vile and disgusting.

I get the ''point'' he was trying to make but to murder an innocent animal for a stunt and for shock value isn't the answer. Why not just speak out about the conditions on farms or about becoming a vegetarian? Anything surely would be better than this...

Yes, to me what he did is actually far more removed from reality than talking about conditions farm animals are kept in etc. Farm animals aren't killed by bringing them on to a radio show then hitting them with a bicycle pump, or whatever they said he did.

Shrinkie
26-05-2015, 12:01 PM
I am not saying I think it was right..just saying I can see the point they are trying to make
and if you think an animal twitching a few times is inhumane then try watching film of abbatoirs..even freedom food ones

I know, your first sentence was that you thought it was inexcusible, im not suggesting and i dont think anyway, anyone else is.

Though ive seen those videos, yes. But the argument of eating meat is slightly off topic to this. I resprct vegetarians and vegans and i would be appreciate being offered the same respect for my own choices also. But maks no mistake i am not ignorant to videos and some going ons but you also do not know what meat and my ethics to it are

honeybunny
26-05-2015, 12:08 PM
I just saw this as well, its vile and disgusting.

I get the ''point'' he was trying to make but to murder an innocent animal for a stunt and for shock value isn't the answer. Why not just speak out about the conditions on farms or about becoming a vegetarian? Anything surely would be better than this...

but aren't all animals "innocent"? that was his point..a fluffy baby rabbit gets this response...yet cows, sheep, pigs, ect are killed dreadfully in their thousands each day and those very people up in arms over the rabbit..which was later eaten I think..happily trot off to Sainsburys to buy their sausages and chops

Sarah1991
26-05-2015, 12:12 PM
but aren't all animals "innocent"? that was his point..a fluffy baby rabbit gets this response...yet cows, sheep, pigs, ect are killed dreadfully in their thousands each day and those very people up in arms over the rabbit..which was later eaten I think..happily trot off to Sainsburys to buy their sausages and chops

Yes of course all animals are innocent, which is why I'm saying why couldn't he have just talked about the awful conditions on farms or encouraged veganism and being a vegetarian rather than murder further innocent animals?

To me its like saying using guns is the only way to stop guns or something to that effect...

Personally I'd have the exact same reaction if someone murdered a dog or rabbit in front of me than if they murdered a cow or a pig..

Also I don't want to be a hypocrite, I am a meat eater, I want to change that some day I really do, I've already been trying alternatives.

Springfield24
26-05-2015, 12:15 PM
He's totally missed the point though. Slaughter houses (not all) will stun animals before they're killed so at least they're unaware of the actual act

Shrinkie
26-05-2015, 12:18 PM
Def agree Spring. I think where i find hes really missed the point as well the stunning is that a rabbit has no nutritional value and wasnt actually killed for meat he was killed for a publicity stunt - and that is a different context.

If i remember rightly as well (dont quote me i might be wrong) but animal was essentially chased about so it wasnt even clean in any anyway.

Sarah1991
26-05-2015, 12:18 PM
He's totally missed the point though. Slaughter houses (not all) will stun animals before they're killed so at least they're unaware of the actual act

True, but sometimes the stunning causes utter distress.

I've seen those videos of where they sort of ''miss' with a stun gun so they are only partially stunned or still aware I some way. I've also seen videos of cows being hit and punched because they aren't doing what the human wants...

Its just awful. I know what you mean though.

But then again there are the halal slaughter places where the animals are not stunned or anything, its not ''allowed''...

Springfield24
26-05-2015, 12:22 PM
True, but sometimes the stunning causes utter distress.

I've seen those videos of where they sort of ''miss' with a stun gun so they are only partially stunned or still aware I some way. I've also seen videos of cows being hit and punched because they aren't doing what the human wants...

Its just awful. I know what you mean though.

But then again there are the halal slaughter places where the animals are not stunned or anything, its not ''allowed''...
Yes I'd agree with all you've said. There's never, sadly, going to be a perfect way too kill animals for meat. Just a very emotive thing that he's done and unfortunately he's getting all the press that he wanted

honeybunny
26-05-2015, 12:25 PM
I think it may have a good effect as people are talking about it so it may make some think about how the meat they eat is killed. He is a meat eater so he is just saying..be aware that the packet of mince you are buying used to be alive..don't shout for animal welfare while eating them!

if he had announced on air that his wife/partner had made him a rabbit stew and he was eating it for lunch there wouldn't have been an outcry..the only reason being someone else killed it

Gemmapookie
26-05-2015, 12:49 PM
I agree with Sarah. Its like chopping off someones head to make a point that doing it is bad :?

I get the point he was trying to make, but IMO he went about it in totally the wrong way.

honeybunny
26-05-2015, 12:52 PM
I agree with Sarah. Its like chopping off someones head to make a point that doing it is bad :?

I get the point he was trying to make, but IMO he went about it in totally the wrong way.
nope that isn't the same as chopping off someones head is totally wrong and illegal..eating meat isn't
as said the only difference to him announcing he was eating his ham sandwiches is that someone else killed the animal involved..and probably in a much worse way

Shrinkie
26-05-2015, 01:01 PM
But theres a lot meat eaters who cant stomach either reindeer or rabbit cause they relate it to christmas or fluffy bunnies. I do think he would have critism with rabbit stew. Rabbit meat (least here) isnt exactly easy to get hold of, not sure where youd have to go for it.

I get his point, though i dont agree with it, i just dont think he thought it through either. Not just on the killing an animal which im sorry wasnt for meat - even if he did eat it - it was a public stint to graze a reaction, but i think a lot of people, me included, doesnf even think it was a well made point. To me its like killing a deer to then say "oh i have your attention? Now let me talk to you about cars".

It just wasnt well thought out and caused the death of a rabbit for a point thats not really well conveyed and opened it out as more questionable

orangediva
26-05-2015, 01:12 PM
Haven't read the article and absolutely don't want to but, from reading people's responses I get the general gist, I think :(

Aren't there laws about killing animals for food/ being licensed to do so and also more general animal cruelty laws? Has this horrible individual been reported to the police for animal cruelty or breaking abattoir licensing laws? Or something, there must be something to get him on?

If not then I could possibly empathise with an activist wishing to take the law into their own hands. Not advocating it but it's not hard to understand why someone might.

Shrinkie
26-05-2015, 01:16 PM
Haven't read the article and absolutely don't want to but, from reading people's responses I get the general gist, I think :(

Aren't there laws about killing animals for food/ being licensed to do so and also more general animal cruelty laws? Has this horrible individual been reported to the police for animal cruelty or breaking abattoir licensing laws? Or something, there must be something to get him on?

If not then I could possibly empathise with an activist wishing to take the law into their own hands. Not advocating it but it's not hard to understand why someone might.


That's a good point actually a lot of places in Scandinavia are actually really stringent on rules of food and consumption. When friends come over from Denmark or even Norway, not uncommon for them to get an upset stomach because of how sterile it is - eg Donnar meat is just a massive nono. I would have thought with that in mind...it would be more strict in the killing of

keletkezes
26-05-2015, 01:25 PM
I watched a programme where they showed the whole process with a lamb and poultry (chickens and a goose): it was really good. They stunned beforehand and explained the complications of stunning and not stunning, as well as throughout the whole process.

Countryfile the other week was talking about how people won't eat veal not just because of how it used to be farmed (long banned in the UK) but also the perception of baby cows, yet they often eat lamb and chicken. Chickens are quite young when killed (they don't look fully grown) and lamb is like veal: not really a cute baby any more!

William
26-05-2015, 01:38 PM
I agree with everything honeybunny has said (is that a first? :lol:). It's horrible but how is it anymore horrible than the animals killed everyday for meat? Would anyone have cared if he killed the rabbit at home for meat and then talked about it on the radio show? I haven't read the article but it seems like the issue people have with it is that the rabbit was killed in the studio?

I don't know. I struggle to see why there's an uproar about this. I haven't finished reading all the comments yet, maybe there's more to it is why I don't get it...

As I said, I think it's horrible, but so is the millions of animals raised and killed every year in much worse ways. Maybe this will make people think. I know it did for me when I was 15 and very naive about the conditions of farmed animals. A kid on the show Kid Nation was killing chickens for food and it made me so angry, then I read comments online that were basically the same thing I said here and I realized it was no different (plus I watched a horrible video online that made me instantly not be able to stomach meat ever again even if I had wanted to).

Also, maybe people that aren't willing to stop eating meat will decide to raise their own animals or source ethical meat. It's definitely raised awareness. At the cost of the rabbit, yes, but they did eat it so its life wasn't wasted. I assume they would have eaten some sort of meat any way if not for the rabbit so it wasn't killed unnecessarily either.

kayjay
26-05-2015, 07:20 PM
I'd like to beat him with a bicycle pump and see if it hurts him :censored: Once again a rabbit is used as it hasn't as much 'worth' as a dog or cat. Can you imagine if he'd beaten a dog to death live on air to make a point? This wasn't a farmed rabbit or a wild rabbit shot for meat, it was a fluffy baby bred for the pet market. And yes I eat meat, and no I wouldn't eat meat if I had to kill the animal personally. But this was a fluffy baby bunny and was killed to make a point.

honeybunny
26-05-2015, 07:32 PM
I'd like to beat him with a bicycle pump and see if it hurts him :censored: Once again a rabbit is used as it hasn't as much 'worth' as a dog or cat. Can you imagine if he'd beaten a dog to death live on air to make a point? This wasn't a farmed rabbit or a wild rabbit shot for meat, it was a fluffy baby bred for the pet market. And yes I eat meat, and no I wouldn't eat meat if I had to kill the animal personally. But this was a fluffy baby bunny and was killed to make a point.

but that is his whole point ! it was a flufffy bunny" it's is the same as a wild rabbit..just has fluff..you eat meat and say you wouldn't if you had to kill it..that was his point..as I said made in a bad way... but most responses are just underlining the reason he did it..of course he wouldn't beat a dog to death most people in the Western world don't eat dog, and I don't suppose he had the set up to deal with a sheep or cow..so a rabbit, as a meat animal was his choice..and ..I'm not condoning it ..but from reports he hit it once..it twitched a few times..,most animals including humans will at point of death.. I get the whole thing was bad taste but I'm afraid I bet he's laughing as all the people making exactly the statements he was proving

Shrinkie
26-05-2015, 07:44 PM
but that is his whole point ! it was a flufffy bunny" it's is the same as a wild rabbit..just has fluff..you eat meat and say you wouldn't if you had to kill it..that was his point..as I said made in a bad way... but most responses are just underlining the reason he did it..of course he wouldn't beat a dog to death most people in the Western world don't eat dog, and I don't suppose he had the set up to deal with a sheep or cow..so a rabbit, as a meat animal was his choice..and ..I'm not condoning it ..but from reports he hit it once..it twitched a few times..,most animals including humans will at point of death.. I get the whole thing was bad taste but I'm afraid I bet he's laughing as all the people making exactly the statements he was proving

I definitely agree with that honeybunny. I mean the part that has upset you has definitely been his point of the whole thing kayjay - though I still don't at all agree with his point (and I mean his point not his method to be ultra-clear), it is in your case, possibly more apt - please don't take that condescending, I just mean I would and I used to, I used to fish, I don't flinch at the idea of prepping me own food. I get it's not just because it's a bunny but it's an umbrella idea to eating-meat and dissociating from it being meat and not be willing to eat meat if it meant being the one to destroy it.

It is shocking and upsetting which is what he is aiming for. At the end of the day.

Edit: bit doesn't make sense.

kayjay
26-05-2015, 07:49 PM
but that is his whole point ! it was a flufffy bunny" it's is the same as a wild rabbit..just has fluff..you eat meat and say you wouldn't if you had to kill it..that was his point..as I said made in a bad way... but most responses are just underlining the reason he did it..of course he wouldn't beat a dog to death most people in the Western world don't eat dog, and I don't suppose he had the set up to deal with a sheep or cow..so a rabbit, as a meat animal was his choice..and ..I'm not condoning it ..but from reports he hit it once..it twitched a few times..,most animals including humans will at point of death.. I get the whole thing was bad taste but I'm afraid I bet he's laughing as all the people making exactly the statements he was proving

Oh I definitely see the hypocrisy in it and my views, but as a pet lover (I don't own any pets at the moment), I don't eat rabbits. Or dogs or cats. And I can fully see that one animal's life is worth as much as the next, and I struggle with that as a meat eater. My friend has a small holding and breeds sheep and pigs for meat. She currently has a bottle fed lamb who views the humans as family and the dog as a brother and they've given him a name. Her husband doesn't see any difference between him and the other sheep destined for slaughter, but there is a difference to me, as the animal has grown to trust the humans and I wouldn't eat anything I'd given a name to. We're lucky where we live as we can souce locally reared meat rather than buy factory farmed from the supermarket, and I do accept that in order for me to eat a slow roasted lamb shoulder, a sheep has died. But I don't think it's right to kill this particular sheep and I know that's very hypocritical! In a similar way I don't think it's right to kill a baby raised for the pet market to make his point. But I do agree his point was well made but it's a shame he couldn't make it some other way as this particular animal didn't have to die, and to me it is no different from killing a dog live on the radio. Although to be fair if he killed a pig live on radio I wouldn't like it either. Years ago when I was very small my dad bred rabbits and every Sunday he would disappear into the garage and every Monday night we'd have "chicken stew". I feel very angry about this when I think about it now, but I guess it really is no different to if he'd kept chickens and killed one each week. I was vegetarian for several years but lapsed due to severe anaemia and, I have to confess, really liking the taste of meat versus vegitarian substitutes. So I struggle with the ethics of meat eating. I think meat eaters fall into two categories, those who like the taste but prefer not to think about what they're eating or how it arrived on the plate (me!) and those who know it's a killed animal, and are fully ok with that and could kill the animals to eat it (ie the radio presenter).

Mackers
26-05-2015, 07:49 PM
I completely agree with Jill on this one. The act was horrendous BUT it IS having the desired effect of making people talk about how animals farmed for meat are treated, even the organic, high welfare meat. It all comes from an animal who has to be killed. And I doubt 'stunning' is a pleasant experience for the animal either. So as shocking as his little publicity stunt was, it's making people think about it, which can only be a good thing.

Shrinkie
26-05-2015, 07:52 PM
Oh I definitely see the hypocrisy in it and my views, but as a pet lover (I don't own any pets at the moment), I don't eat rabbits. Or dogs or cats. And I can fully see that one animal's life is worth as much as the next, and I struggle with that as a meat eater. My friend has a small holding and breeds sheep and pigs for meat. She currently has a bottle fed lamb who views the humans as family and the dog as a brother and they've given him a name. Her husband doesn't see any difference between him and the other sheep destined for slaughter, but there is a difference to me, as the animal has grown to trust the humans and I wouldn't eat anything I'd given a name to. We're lucky where we live as we can souce locally reared meat rather than buy factory farmed from the supermarket, and I do accept that in order for me to eat a slow roasted lamb shoulder, a sheep has died. But I don't think it's right to kill this particular sheep and I know that's very hypocritical! In a similar way I don't think it's right to kill a baby raised for the pet market to make his point. But I do agree his point was well made but it's a shame he couldn't make it some other way as this particular animal didn't have to die, and to me it is no different from killing a dog live on the radio. Although to be fair if he killed a pig live on radio I wouldn't like it either. Years ago when I was very small my dad bred rabbits and every Sunday he would disappear into the garage and every Monday night we'd have "chicken stew". I feel very angry about this when I think about it now, but I guess it really is no different to if he'd kept chickens and killed one each week.

You actually made a point I didn't click with. If it were bought (presuming as it's so young, though may have been his own rabbits litter) wonder what the laws are to buy pets for food in Denmark. Just morbid curiosity, nothing more

Hugo's There
26-05-2015, 07:52 PM
I agree with Jill and mackers. I also wonder if there would have been the same response if it had been a chicken rather than a baby bunny?

Shrinkie
26-05-2015, 07:58 PM
I agree with Jill and mackers. I also wonder if there would have been the same response if it had been a chicken rather than a baby bunny?

I hope so.

To be fair, I genuinely think so. I mean rabbit killed - rabbit forum, it's gonna upset folks but folks on here have chickens and I think from reading comments people were blown by the fact it were killed on radio, period. I think it could have been a goldfish and there would be uproar. (again, I'd like to think so anyway)

Hugo's There
26-05-2015, 08:00 PM
I would like to think so too. But it is far more acceptable in this country to eat chicken than a cute bunny so who knows......

Mackers
26-05-2015, 08:04 PM
I agree with Jill and mackers. I also wonder if there would have been the same response if it had been a chicken rather than a baby bunny?

I think you're right Liz. I think we're all a bit outraged about the publicity stunt and would all have done anything to protect that little innocent fluff ball. But the guy has a point - why be outraged about the fluffy bunny (which was supposedly then eaten) when millions of farm animals live a much worse life and die a far worse death every day? How do we know that the bunny wasn't owned by someone who kept rabbits for meat and it would have been eaten anyway?

Shrinkie
26-05-2015, 08:14 PM
I think you're right Liz. I think we're all a bit outraged about the publicity stunt and would all have done anything to protect that little innocent fluff ball. But the guy has a point - why be outraged about the fluffy bunny (which was supposedly then eaten) when millions of farm animals live a much worse life and die a far worse death every day? How do we know that the bunny wasn't owned by someone who kept rabbits for meat and it would have been eaten anyway?


While I definitely agree with that point in itself, I have to say, along with others who've made it clear on here. I don't find it to be shocking because of the animal type. I find it simply a waste because I don't think the point came clearly at all, for what was saying his point was, people aren't quite touching on that point and some people have gotten a bit muddled by it (clear even on this thread), that the animal wasn't killed for meat. Maybe destined that way, maybe ate it in the end, but that the fact is he sourced and obtained an animal all for the sake of making a point. And that point was to be extremist.

I definitely think the point you make is interesting though although I wonder if that may be half the reason is on the difference of radio vs darm animals (not put well but I'm trying not to write a novel).

ImoT
26-05-2015, 08:27 PM
I'm a meat eater and I would have found it shocking whether it was a bunny, pig, cow etc! So it's not that it's a cute fluffy animal. I think it's more that it's such a waste of life and not a valid reason for killing an animal. And it seems very inhumane, chasing it round and banging it on the head :(

honeybunny
26-05-2015, 08:43 PM
I'm a meat eater and I would have found it shocking whether it was a bunny, pig, cow etc! So it's not that it's a cute fluffy animal. I think it's more that it's such a waste of life and not a valid reason for killing an animal. And it seems very inhumane, chasing it round and banging it on the head :(
and that's the power of media for you..how do you know he "chased it round" ? and he gave it one bang on the head from reports..how do you think most animals are killed?

Hugo's There
26-05-2015, 08:52 PM
I'm a meat eater and I would have found it shocking whether it was a bunny, pig, cow etc! So it's not that it's a cute fluffy animal. I think it's more that it's such a waste of life and not a valid reason for killing an animal. And it seems very inhumane, chasing it round and banging it on the head :(

But is it a waste of a life if its caused this much publicity/discussion/makes a few people think about the food they are eating?

I don't know the answer and in all honesty I find the whole thing heartbreaking, it makes me want to cry and I would like to think I would feel the same way regardless of the animal used. I know I would feel the same if I thought about any rabbit being killed whether on radio or anywhere else.

But I do think there is more than one way to look at what has happened.

William
26-05-2015, 09:22 PM
I agree with Jill and mackers. I also wonder if there would have been the same response if it had been a chicken rather than a baby bunny?

From the general public? I doubt it, sadly. That exact thing came up on Survivor a couple months ago actually. This one girl knew some friends who did a butchery class for education so she went to the class to learn how to kill and butcher a rabbit in preparation for going on the show.

When she told the other contestants that, one guy said in a confessional that the first thing that came to mind was sociopaths and how the first thing sociopaths do is kill small animals and how insane it was that she was trying to justify her psychotic ways. I'm just like really? You were given chickens which you then kept and killed one by one (instead of just eating their eggs) when you didn't even really need the food, how is killing one rabbit any worse :? Apparently the irony of it all didn't reach him.

Then fans of the show had a big discussion on whether it was cruel or psychotic or whatever to kill a rabbit and I'm sure most of them were meat eaters themselves. I really hate how people view some animals as being better than others :( Chickens in most people's eyes are near the bottom of the totem pole, hence why Survivor gives them out for a reward. Can you imagine if they gave the contestants live rabbits? The audience would go crazy. Just the fact that that girl killed a rabbit before going on the show sparked enough of a debate. People are also much more willing to kill birds than mammals which irks me.

ImoT
26-05-2015, 09:29 PM
But is it a waste of a life if its caused this much publicity/discussion/makes a few people think about the food they are eating?

I don't know the answer and in all honesty I find the whole thing heartbreaking, it makes me want to cry and I would like to think I would feel the same way regardless of the animal used. I know I would feel the same if I thought about any rabbit being killed whether on radio or anywhere else.

But I do think there is more than one way to look at what has happened.

To be totally honest, it doesn't really make me question my meat eating...I question it for other reasons but this incident hasn't had an effect. It's simply made me furious at the b****** who did this to the poor animal! However it may have made others think more about the food they eat, there are other ways to do that though that don't require killing an animal on live radio inhumanely!

Hugo's There
26-05-2015, 09:38 PM
To be totally honest, it doesn't really make me question my meat eating...I question it for other reasons but this incident hasn't had an effect. It's simply made me furious at the b****** who did this to the poor animal! However it may have made others think more about the food they eat, there are other ways to do that though that don't require killing an animal on live radio inhumanely!
Oh I agree. But what I meant was, as it has now been done and can't be undone and has caused so much debate has the life been wasted if it means some will now think about where there food comes from?

Selmabun
26-05-2015, 10:54 PM
My views.....
I don't understand cheap journalism that needs to be sensationalist - this was being cruel for the sake of publicity, which I think is horrendous.
Having to hit a small rabbit 3 times (quoted from radio station) in order to kill it does not seem like a swift killing. Killing an animal inhumanely doesn't really equate with their whole argument.
From most bits I'm reading NO-ONE seems to be discussing animal welfare issues since this incident. The only thing under discussion is whether the presenter (and producer) should lose their jobs.
He didn't need to kill the rabbit for meat - from what I gather there's no shortage of food over in Denmark. Just because he ate it afterwards doesn't make it okay.

Alison Marie
26-05-2015, 11:00 PM
The way they killed the bunny was far from humane if you ask me. It upsets me to think about it.

It has had the desired effect in making people think about where their meat comes from and how it is treated but it does not make this stunt ok.

Bunny Buddy
26-05-2015, 11:47 PM
Ricky Gervais said it best, as he usually does, to quote him:

"I just battered a Danish DJ to death with a bicycle pump to show how terrible murder is."

MummyBunnyEm
26-05-2015, 11:54 PM
Ricky Gervais said it best, as he usually does, to quote him:

"I just battered a Danish DJ to death with a bicycle pump to show how terrible murder is."

I've just retweeted this. Good old Ricky.
The whole things made me feel anxious :(

ImoT
27-05-2015, 10:03 AM
Oh I agree. But what I meant was, as it has now been done and can't be undone and has caused so much debate has the life been wasted if it means some will now think about where there food comes from?

Why chose to do it with a rabbit thought when most people don't eat rabbit? To me it would have been atrocious no matter what animal was used, but for others it might have made them think more about where their food comes from if it was a chicken/piglet or something. This just seems to have infuriated everyone rather than make them think where their food comes from!!

Hugo's There
27-05-2015, 10:17 AM
Do they eat more rabbit in Denmark?
I don't have any answers just the questions!

Having a read around it seems Denmark has the highest consumption of meat in the world. People want cheap meats with no questions being asked about welfare. It seems conditions there for meat animals are pretty appalling. I guess that why he felt the need to make his point.....

What always gets me is people are outraged at the death of a bunny so what do they do? Make death threats and promote violence against a human being. And that makes them a better person how??

MightyMax
27-05-2015, 11:16 AM
Do they eat more rabbit in Denmark?
I don't have any answers just the questions!

Having a read around it seems Denmark has the highest consumption of meat in the world. People want cheap meats with no questions being asked about welfare. It seems conditions there for meat animals are pretty appalling. I guess that why he felt the need to make his point.....

What always gets me is people are outraged at the death of a bunny so what do they do? Make death threats and promote violence against a human being. And that makes them a better person how??

Yes I read that about meat consumption in Denmark too. I think it was in his 'statement'.

if it had been a chicken or a piglet, I think people would have distanced themselves as they do now from the reality of eating them. They are animals bred to be killed and eaten, so no big deal?

Rabbits are more of a 'cross over' pet/food animal, so more scope for an emotive statement.
BTW, rabbit is available here in supermarkets, and is farmed abroad for places like the National Theatre Restaurant and such like ... They are one of the most abused farmed animals and their are no laws protecting their welfare.