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Matt/Sore Under Chin!

Freakinfreak

Freakinfreak

Alpha Buck
Ok, so please no slating here!

I've been noticing roughness under Neo's chin in a small, specific area for a while now. It's a couple of small, individual matts which are occasionally a little bit greenish in colour.

I've just cut/brushed it out best as I could as it's part of his chin that's awkward to reach! The skin is a little more pink than the other areas so clearly slightly irritated, probably from the matts pulling.
I've been brushing it and cutting it out for the last few months now but its got me wondering why!

Could it be his water dish is too deep? But surely then the matts wouldn't be so far down his chin?
Not sure what else it could be!

Thanks for suggestions in advance x
 
I would definitely take him to the vet asap, because wet chins and necks could mean dental issues.
 
Well I've never noticed it ever feeling actually wet, but it goes get matted. Not all the time either, so that's why I'd wondered if something else could be causing it x
 
Thats how we spotted Smudges abcess, ... He didnt like being held and it was only when we noticed his strange chin and wet face that we realised he had a huge dental abcess,,

His fur hid the mass.... Get it checked at vet, if only to rule that out..

All the best

Fee x
 
Fee said:
Thats how we spotted Smudges abcess, ... He didnt like being held and it was only when we noticed his strange chin and wet face that we realised he had a huge dental abcess,,

His fur hid the mass.... Get it checked at vet, if only to rule that out..

All the best

Fee x
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Exactly the same story with Nena... definitely get it checked out just in case :thumb:
 
I'll get him checked out as soon as possible by someone who knows what to look for :)

Bit odd though as he eats loads, binkies loads, gnaws on things a lot and is generally a seriously happy bunny so just seemed a little odd that there was nothing at all wrong with his acting.

He's also a little on the heavier side at the moment and I know losing weight can be a sign!

When I take him in, what should they physically do to his mouth so I know how well they are checking?
Thanks x
 
My wee Smudge showed no other outward signs of illness... It was this sign that alerted me.

I now check my buns chins By running a hand over every week... Just in case..

Best of luck xxx
 
I agree that a Vet check ASAP is essential. Dental problems/Dental abscesses are a real possibility. But the fact you mention the area is often 'greenish in colour' could indicate that there is a bacterial infection on the skin -Pseudomonas.

http://www.medirabbit.com/EN/Skin_diseases/Bacterial/Moist/Moist.htm

Aswell as causing a moist dermatitis that can cause the fur/skin to appear green in colour this bacteria can also be associated with abscesses and septicaemia (blood poisoning). So even though your Rabbit seems to be fine in himself at the moment this issue does need prompt Veterinary attention.

Good luck xx
 
Aww fingers crossed for your bun.

Sorry to jump on your thread.. But wanted to ask, So can we cut their fur under their chin if it's slightly matted? Just I know poor Harvey has a couple of matts under his, and it does wind him up. At least on the plus side we know that Harvey's is when he was on his fibreplex, as the vet told us sorry but the first couple of times they gave it him.. They missed his mouth, and being honest I may have probably missed a little too.
 
Ruthyjones89 said:
Aww fingers crossed for your bun.

Sorry to jump on your thread.. But wanted to ask, So can we cut their fur under their chin if it's slightly matted? Just I know poor Harvey has a couple of matts under his, and it does wind him up. At least on the plus side we know that Harvey's is when he was on his fibreplex, as the vet told us sorry but the first couple of times they gave it him.. They missed his mouth, and being honest I may have probably missed a little too.
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I would not attempt to do this as one slip with the scissors and.................... :shock:

If the 'matt' is fibreplex then you should be able to bathe it off using plain cooled boiled water :)
 
Thanks for your reply Jane!

I've just had a thought, how quickly can abscesses and/or dental problems come on? As his teeth were checked on the 27th Feb so is it possible they could have developed that quickly?

I'm just so confused as to how he could have a problem, he's been eating like anything and nothing in his behaviour has changed at all. I know they hide things well but surely there's normally some sort of symptom?

He's been booked in for the vets though so hopefully they'll have some idea :thumb:
 
Freakinfreak said:
Thanks for your reply Jane!

I've just had a thought, how quickly can abscesses and/or dental problems come on? As his teeth were checked on the 27th Feb so is it possible they could have developed that quickly?

I'm just so confused as to how he could have a problem, he's been eating like anything and nothing in his behaviour has changed at all. I know they hide things well but surely there's normally some sort of symptom?

He's been booked in for the vets though so hopefully they'll have some idea :thumb:
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Abscesses can come up overnight and they do not always lead to any change in behaviour at all. It may not be anything to do with teeth/abscesses, but it is certainly a good idea to get him checked over :)
 
Jack's-Jane said:
Abscesses can come up overnight and they do not always lead to any change in behaviour at all. It may not be anything to do with teeth/abscesses, but it is certainly a good idea to get him checked over :)
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Thanks Jane, it sounds silly really! I've been doing overtime this morning at work so when I go back home I'll check under his chin to see if anything has changed :)

Looked at your link and I don't think it's that, it could be where he's been shoving his face into his greens perhaps! I'll deffo check again thought.

So that I know whether they're checking properly, do you know what they should really do in regards to checking? Xrays or something else? xx
 
Freakinfreak said:
Thanks Jane, it sounds silly really! I've been doing overtime this morning at work so when I go back home I'll check under his chin to see if anything has changed :)

Looked at your link and I don't think it's that, it could be where he's been shoving his face into his greens perhaps! I'll deffo check again thought.

So that I know whether they're checking properly, do you know what they should really do in regards to checking? Xrays or something else? xx
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Aswell as a general health check (heart/lungs,abdomen,ears,weight) the Vet will need to look at the effected area under your Rabbit's chin to check for infection/dermatitis. Then look in your Rabbit's mouth using an otoscope to check his teeth for crown elongation/spurs/signs of gum infection etc. Vet should also feel all along the mandible to check for lumps and bumps and check your Rabbit's eyes for any dacrocystitis (runny eyes).
 
Jack's-Jane said:
Aswell as a general health check (heart/lungs,abdomen,ears,weight) the Vet will need to look at the effected area under your Rabbit's chin to check for infection/dermatitis. Then look in your Rabbit's mouth using an otoscope to check his teeth for crown elongation/spurs/signs of gum infection etc. Vet should also feel all along the mandible to check for lumps and bumps and check your Rabbit's eyes for any dacrocystitis (runny eyes).
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Oh fab, thanks for that!

I'll triple check the appointment is with their rabbit savvy vet and copy the text you've given me just now so that I can almost checklist it off.

Is it usual for them to want to take xrays if they can't seem to see anything whilst doing what you mentioned above? xx
 
Freakinfreak said:
Oh fab, thanks for that!

I'll triple check the appointment is with their rabbit savvy vet and copy the text you've given me just now so that I can almost checklist it off.

Is it usual for them to want to take xrays if they can't seem to see anything whilst doing what you mentioned above? xx
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Xrays would require a GA so they would only want to do that if they had reason to suspect a tooth root/abscess problem
 
Freakinfreak said:
Thanks for your reply Jane!

I've just had a thought, how quickly can abscesses and/or dental problems come on? As his teeth were checked on the 27th Feb so is it possible they could have developed that quickly?

I'm just so confused as to how he could have a problem, he's been eating like anything and nothing in his behaviour has changed at all. I know they hide things well but surely there's normally some sort of symptom?

He's been booked in for the vets though so hopefully they'll have some idea :thumb:
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Dental problems can brew up slowly, but that said, they could have developed since 27th Feb. A vet check with an otoscope can only show so much - very limited as the rabbit's tongue usually gets in the way!

As for a dental abscess, they can seemingly flare up overnight. You don't mention that you felt any lumps, but the greenish colour you mention is cause for concern. I should get a vet to examine that area and clean it up for you at least so you know if anything further develops in that area.
 
Ruthyjones89 said:
Aww fingers crossed for your bun.

Sorry to jump on your thread.. But wanted to ask, So can we cut their fur under their chin if it's slightly matted? Just I know poor Harvey has a couple of matts under his, and it does wind him up. At least on the plus side we know that Harvey's is when he was on his fibreplex, as the vet told us sorry but the first couple of times they gave it him.. They missed his mouth, and being honest I may have probably missed a little too.
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It depends on how confident you are? I always put a comb into the hair and cut the hair the other side of the comb to the skin (if that makes sense). I have often cut out fur mats around the face, but if you're not used to restraining your rabbit securely, then make it a two person job or leave it until you next see the vet.
 
Update...
Vet looked into his mouth and said that the right hand side teeth are a teensy bit longer and that's the side where the matting is worse.
We have decided to cut down on pellets a bit more in a bid to get him to eat more hay to see if that is going to help wear them down a little more to see if the wetnesss goes.
She's reluctant to put him under to do any more investigation unless it doesn't improve in the next two weeks.
She also gave me F10 to put onto it just in case it's something to do with his skin instead of his mouth.

Hopefully this is good advice as she is an exotics specialist especially in small animals!
 
Freakinfreak said:
Update...
Vet looked into his mouth and said that the right hand side teeth are a teensy bit longer and that's the side where the matting is worse.
We have decided to cut down on pellets a bit more in a bid to get him to eat more hay to see if that is going to help wear them down a little more to see if the wetnesss goes.
She's reluctant to put him under to do any more investigation unless it doesn't improve in the next two weeks.
She also gave me F10 to put onto it just in case it's something to do with his skin instead of his mouth.

Hopefully this is good advice as she is an exotics specialist especially in small animals!
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It sounds like good advice to me :thumb:

Always good to try and get them to wear their own teeth down ... saves on dental and anaesthetic risk.
I hope all goes well - sounds like you have an ace vet!
 
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