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Recurring gut blockage - bunny in discomfort! Please help!

rikster

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Hi there.

I am reaching out for some assistance as I have a recurring problem with one of my Netherland Dwarfs (I have 11 in total btw) which I have visited three separate vets about and still have no resolution to.

It started about 6 months ago. My three year old Netherland ‘Agouti’ stopped eating for about 12 hours and stopped passing poo. When I let her loose in the garden she just sat next to the fence rather than running around as she usually would. Later that day I noticed that she had some mucus around her backside and as I watched her I saw her back end convulse like she was trying to force something out but with no joy. Of course I took her straight to the Vet. Her tummy was also making gurgling noises then and when we reached the vet’s. It had now been about 24 hours since we had seen her eat. The vet could feel poo’s when he examined her but they were not getting through – she was blocked up. He thought she had GI Stasis. He gave me three different liquids to get her gut moving so she could excrete the poo’s and get everything moving again. I administered the liquids orally to Agouti for the next 36 hours. She had now not eaten for almost three days. However, as the vet predicted, her guts started moving. She excreted the largest rabbit poo I have ever seen. Eight to ten times larger than normal. After this one ‘biggie’ the rest came out (she could have one the Bunny Poo Olympics, I can tell you) and within 6 hours she was much thinner around the middle and happily munching her hay and pellets and vegetables again. Of course I was delighted, I stopped the meds as instructed and thought all was OK.

A few weeks later I had the same issue with Agouti. And we have had it regularly since. She is OK for a week or two and then the same thing happens again. The vets put her on Baytril for three weeks, and they also tried another Antibiotic the next time. we have also wormed her with Panacur (just to cover all bases although there was no indication this was at fault). I have also fed her pro-biotics as instructed by the vet to try and re-instate the ‘good bacteria’ in her gut that may have been affected by the anti-biotics.

Anyhow, six months on the same cycle happens. She is happily eating and pooing normally for a couple of weeks. Then she gets blocked. The same transparent / milky mucus appear around her bum (there is a distinct smell that comes with this btw). I have to provide the concoction of serums to ‘oil’ her gut and two days later another ‘Biggie’ or two appear/s and she then poo’s for England before happily munching away again. As I stated, I have tried three local vets separately, spent literally hundreds and hundreds on her but am no closer to resolving the issue. I can remove the blockage each time for her (by orally injecting these three serums) but this is not addressing the cause or providing a permanent solution for her.

I have kept rabbits for about 5 years now but have never come across this type of recurring case before. This has now happened seven or eight times and I really want to get an answer and sort this for her as she is clearly uncomfortable every time it happens.

Any ideas, suggestions or can anyone suggest another course of action, another route I could take or another source of experience I could tap into?

Many thanks in advance for any suggestions and bless you in advance!

Rik
 
I would suggest making a thread in rabbit chat asking for a rabbit savvy vet in your area. Whilst the vets you've seen don't raise any red flags with me and have in fact been really quite helpful and on the ball it seems, at this stage I think seeing someone with a strong interest in rabbits may be the best idea. Alternatively, your vet could refer your rabbit to an exotics specialist who would be able to advise your vet on the next course of action. If you let us know where you are I'm sure we can find someone near you who is well looked up to :)
 
What is her diet exactly? Rather than a blockage this sounds more like stasis. When a bun starts to recover from it they often poo out a big poo covered in mucus. There must be a reason your bun is going into stasis repeatedly and it could be something simple like diet or it could be a health issue.

I would definitely be seeking a rabbit specialist to have a look at her at this stage. Do as suggested by Yaretzi ad hopefully somebody can help. If not contact the RWAF and ask for the closest rabbit specialist to you. If there are none nearby, your vet could possibly call a rabbit specialist for advice.
 
Hi there Vegan Bunny. Yes, Stasis is what I described the vet thought it was. her diet is plenty of hay, grass (she daily mows my lawn along with the others) and grass pellets and food mix. Fresh vegetables (carrots, etc) on a nevery other day basis. There has been no change to her diet and none of the other bunnies have any issues.
 
Hi Jacks Jane and yaretzi

I am based in St Albans in Hertfordshire. If you know of any Exotic Pet specialists in this area that would be great. Sorry for the delayed response. I have been away on business.

Thanks in advance for everyone's input and suggestions!

Rikster
 
There's Nine Lives vets in Redbourn - I understand they are good with small exotics, or if you can get to Watford there's Medivet - Guy Carter is an excellent bunny specialist there. Or there is Medivet in Radlett - Alan is the vet there and he too specialises in bunnies and is lovely. Hope this helps.
 
Hi Jacks Jane and yaretzi

I am based in St Albans in Hertfordshire. If you know of any Exotic Pet specialists in this area that would be great. Sorry for the delayed response. I have been away on business.

Thanks in advance for everyone's input and suggestions!

Rikster

Medivet in Watford has Guy Carter. Excellent rabbit vet.
 
What veg and how much does she get exactly? Also what food do you feed?

Personally I would cut out the veg. Certain veg, like cabbage, can cause gas and others, like carrots, can upset the bacteria in the guts because they are high in sugar. Gas can quite easily lead to stasis and so this is definitely something to address. Some buns cope fine with veg and some don't. I think this would be your first step until you can get her to one of the vets suggested. If you are worried about her not getting any greens you can feed dried forage (fresh is hard to come by at this time of year) or herbs. These are much more natural and generally most buns deal fine with them but remember to introduce slowly.

Let us know how you get on. x
 
I see from your post that she gets exercise which is good for keeping their guts moving. Is your bunny overweight? Some pellets are made with alfalfa and that may be too high in energy content for her system to digest because more of the sugars/and low fiber materials wind up in her cecum for fermentation. I agree with other posts that reducing the amount of energy/sugar in her diet by either restricting or eliminating certain foods could help.
 
Hiya Bunny Momma! She gets loads of exercise - full, free reign of the garden all day! Absolutely not overweight - really fit. Appreciate the advice :)
Hiya Vegan Bunny. Thanks for the suggestions also. She has half an average carrot every couple of days and some brockley. She is four years old now and has been on pretty much the same diet throughout that time. Only the last 6 months that this has been an issue. I will try reducing this. She mostly eats hay (Timothy). She is very spritely this morning, running around the garden like crazy :)
Hiya MightyMax and ninny40 - thanks for the recommendation of Guy Carter! Watford is not too far at all...

I just want to thank you all for your advice. Some of it provides me with new ideas, much confirms my own thoughts already, but it is validating to know you think along the same lines! I will keep you updated and am focus on the diet and will keep you informed! :) Thanks again! x
 
Hi Bunny Momma

No, she is not spayed. She has had a litter of two kits over a year ago. None of my females are spayed and only one of my boys is neutered.
 
Hi Bunny Momma

No, she is not spayed. She has had a litter of two kits over a year ago. None of my females are spayed and only one of my boys is neutered.

This may be relevant

Is there a reason why all but one of your Rabbits are entire ? If the Doe you are having issues with is a Breeding Doe and if she has had any fertility issues since her last litter then possible Uterine problems need to be considered. Regardless of Breeding history Uterine cancer is a very common finding in entire Does, even those as young as 3.

Or her GI tract issues could be 'hormonal stress' related if she is entire and never mated up. Especially if there are entire Bucks close by.
 
Hiya Bunny Momma! She gets loads of exercise - full, free reign of the garden all day! Absolutely not overweight - really fit. Appreciate the advice :)
Hiya Vegan Bunny. Thanks for the suggestions also. She has half an average carrot every couple of days and some brockley. She is four years old now and has been on pretty much the same diet throughout that time. Only the last 6 months that this has been an issue. I will try reducing this. She mostly eats hay (Timothy). She is very spritely this morning, running around the garden like crazy :)
Hiya MightyMax and ninny40 - thanks for the recommendation of Guy Carter! Watford is not too far at all...

I just want to thank you all for your advice. Some of it provides me with new ideas, much confirms my own thoughts already, but it is validating to know you think along the same lines! I will keep you updated and am focus on the diet and will keep you informed! :) Thanks again! x

You are most welcome. You should get some good advice from him, as if anyone can help a rabbit, he's one of the ones I would completely trust x
 
This may be relevant

Is there a reason why all but one of your Rabbits are entire ? If the Doe you are having issues with is a Breeding Doe and if she has had any fertility issues since her last litter then possible Uterine problems need to be considered. Regardless of Breeding history Uterine cancer is a very common finding in entire Does, even those as young as 3.

Or her GI tract issues could be 'hormonal stress' related if she is entire and never mated up. Especially if there are entire Bucks close by.

Jane said it better than I could.
 
Hiya.

The first buck rabbit I rescued was neutered. None of the others have been. I have a 40ft x 40ft garden with three, four-tier hutches in. I have four bucks in total and seven does. Agouti has not had any fertility problems at all. I clearly control when I let the boys out with the girls of course. There is a strict rota for the full garden access!. I have not had any of the females neutered. I simply wanted them all to experience motherhood etc. I have found good homes for all the offspring over the years. All the bunnies are healthy. Two of the does are now beyond child bearing age and have permanent residence with the two of the bucks. Agouti is still on good form you will be pleased to hear! I have taken on board your advice here through. :) Can you post pictures to this board? I am not very good with such things?
 
Hiya.

The first buck rabbit I rescued was neutered. None of the others have been. I have a 40ft x 40ft garden with three, four-tier hutches in. I have four bucks in total and seven does. Agouti has not had any fertility problems at all. I clearly control when I let the boys out with the girls of course. There is a strict rota for the full garden access!. I have not had any of the females neutered. I simply wanted them all to experience motherhood etc. I have found good homes for all the offspring over the years. All the bunnies are healthy. Two of the does are now beyond child bearing age and have permanent residence with the two of the bucks. Agouti is still on good form you will be pleased to hear! I have taken on board your advice here through. :) Can you post pictures to this board? I am not very good with such things?

I am glad to hear that Agouti seems to be doing OK at the moment.

I'm a bit confused about this though -you are keeping two older entire Does with two entire Bucks ?

There are details of how to post photos here :

http://forums.rabbitrehome.org.uk/showthread.php?136183-Tutorial-How-to-Post-Photos
 
Now you have bred from them don't you think it would be best to get them neutered? 80% of does over the age of 5 end up with uterine cancer. She could also be stressed as Jane mentioned..not just from hormones but because she can smell/hear/see the other rabbits and sharing space between a large group of rabbits who are not bonded will most likely make her feel on edge and this could be why her guts are slowing regularly.
 
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