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Blocked Tear Duct Advice

FireRose

Warren Scout
Okay this maybe a bit of a long winded post.. SO I do apologise in advance, I just want to try help Merlin + his wet face look... lol

SO Merlin is 6 he's not always had blocked tear ducts, but maybe for about 3-31/2 years

He's had them flushed - ONCE which I was told by a very savvy vet at the time that his tear ducts are so thin that they struggled to even get (whaever it is they use) in his ducts to flush, though some came out but they did deem is unsuccessful - The vet advised there & then that future ducts unless 110% necessary would not be worth it for his stress as his are so thin etc etc. (rabbit savvy vet has since left and everytime I take him in for general check ups/vaccinations etc etc it is someone new/different!)

SO Merlin's eye health has actually been okay up until maybe the last 6 months or so, his tears are obviously burning his fir away so he's getting quite bald on his face, I've actually cut a lot away myself around the eye area (read it on a post here) and use sudocreme when it gets red/sore looking (also soak it with chamomile tea cooled down)

Anyway couple of months back - I went on holiday leaving bunny at home with family who know him + he knows them and he was able to stay in his surroundings, went on the Monday, thursday got a call to say he's had to be seen the vets as his eye is playing up

(he recently before that an an eye ulcer which he was treated for and the ulcer is now filled + healed long before we went)

So obviously we came back from the holiday.. His EYE oMG I've never seen it so bad, fully closed up + gunky and just awful, but the vet they'd been to seen wasn't very helpful, didn't soak/bathe his eye nothing and literally just pulled it open - told them to bring him in for a duct flush the following day.. Going back through his past I was reluctant so I rung them up and asked to speak to someone who know's a little more about buns, they agreed with me not to take him in, but use the Antibiotic drops and see how he goes (antibiotcs were the fulthicmide sp?)

SO in a few day's with soaking, and gently massaging his eye's he got back to normal, but since this I've noticed the wee slit by his eye is maybe been slit open (perhaps were vet just yanked open his eye without even bathing first)

And his eye's now seem worse, they're running an awful lot + get red + sore I do chamomile bathes + sudocreme on them to help every couple of day's which seem to help but obviously his fur is thinning and his eyes are wet on a regular basis.

I am just wondering what else I can do.. I am now skeptical about that vets as I am SURE they did more damage then good, his eye where it joins at the bottom towards his nose is split open more so than the other side (wasn't like this before)

BUT DO I go back to the vets demand another flush, perhaps even a dental check (He hasn't had this before either) But then he's not really had too many infections just his runny eyes, What more is there that I can do?

I read somewhere on here about some guinea soothing gel, is this the aloe vera one that is suitable for sows too, or do Ineed to be looking elsewhere?

I am sorry for the essay but his face just seems to be getting wetter + sorer more than usual and obviously I don't want him to be suffering despite the chamomile + sudocreme giving him back his pinkness (though I think it does look worse as there's no fur there now)

Is there anything more I could or should be doing for him?
 
I suspect that the runny eyes are a secondary symptom of tooth root elongation. The elongated tooth roots press on the nasolacrimal ducts (tear ducts) blocking them and causing runny eyes. A bacterial infection can then set in. Has the Vet discussed this with you ?
 
I suspect that the runny eyes are a secondary symptom of tooth root elongation. The elongated tooth roots press on the nasolacrimal ducts (tear ducts) blocking them and causing runny eyes. A bacterial infection can then set in. Has the Vet discussed this with you ?

They've not mentioned his teeth once, this is what bugs me, I've mentioned it, but because he hasn't had lots of infections (Just this 1 major one that is now clear) I am not sure if they believe it's his teeth or not - I've said several times but they've just said things like "no need to cause unncessary stress etc etc)

He doesn't have an infection on a long term basis/often, it's just constantly running, (which obviously woud do if his ducts are thin/still blocked)

I've asked in another thread for a rabbit savvy vet nearby but not sure if I will have luck as I have lost my faith in this vet I use and have been using them a long time so it's a shame

Just not sure what else I can do with him as his eye is just runny not gunky/white puss etc etc, he eats fine, (though isn't a great hay eater i must admit) but he does eat his pellets okay treats and his veggies... Just at a bit of a loss now :(
 
Like Jack's-Jane said runny eyes is quite often a sign of elongated tooth roots which press on the tear duct and therefore block the tears from running down the usual channel. Hopefully you will locate a Vet who is more knowledgeable in regard to rabbits.
 
They've not mentioned his teeth once, this is what bugs me, I've mentioned it, but because he hasn't had lots of infections (Just this 1 major one that is now clear) I am not sure if they believe it's his teeth or not - I've said several times but they've just said things like "no need to cause unncessary stress etc etc)

He doesn't have an infection on a long term basis/often, it's just constantly running, (which obviously woud do if his ducts are thin/still blocked)

I've asked in another thread for a rabbit savvy vet nearby but not sure if I will have luck as I have lost my faith in this vet I use and have been using them a long time so it's a shame

Just not sure what else I can do with him as his eye is just runny not gunky/white puss etc etc, he eats fine, (though isn't a great hay eater i must admit) but he does eat his pellets okay treats and his veggies... Just at a bit of a loss now :(

Is he a lop ?
 
I have had a couple of rabbits with this problem caused by tooth root elongation. Other than getting infected every now and then the rabbit was fine with it. A good bunny friend who likes to lick was the best way to keep the eyes looking good. One had a moderately helpful friend who did a bit but Harveys eyes always looks a little wet. Bailey on the other hand has a very attentive bunny friend and had silky soft fur all around his eyes. I have no idea how Boo did it!
 
I have had a couple of rabbits with this problem caused by tooth root elongation. Other than getting infected every now and then the rabbit was fine with it. A good bunny friend who likes to lick was the best way to keep the eyes looking good. One had a moderately helpful friend who did a bit but Harveys eyes always looks a little wet. Bailey on the other hand has a very attentive bunny friend and had silky soft fur all around his eyes. I have no idea how Boo did it!

Merlin doesn't have a friend :( just lil ol me and I don't fancy licking them haha - did their teeth need to get sorted for this, my vets hasn't suggested anything for the teeth yet, and to me that would be the first thing if he is okay in other aspects, but the vet's I use I think have lost their small mammal expert so now everytime you go there it's a new/different vet who just doesn't have a clue!

When I last went there it was the owner I saw who specialises in horses!!!
 
The teeth were been pushed up into the eye socket. Nothing medically they could do apart from manage the pain if it was an issue. Basically if the teeth are made of stronger stuff than the bone around it then instead of wearing down the teeth when eating it is pushed upwards. One of the bunnies had a lot of jaw abbesses and his bones has been severely weaken by it.
 
I think that's what I am going to have to do is deman an x-ray for him - I was just really hoping for something I could do to help with his face also, his wet look is making him bald :(

I'd like to try find a bit more of a rabbit savvy vet in my area too, but not sure if this is going to happen, I will phone them tomorrow see what they say
 
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