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sparklefairy
05-06-2014, 12:26 PM
Storm is booked into the vets for tomorrow but I needed to ask advice on here too as storm really isn't right :cry:

The other week storm needed a bum shave as he cannot seem to keep clean. It has helped him to have shorter fur down there but now he is wet, not just around his back legs but just above his tail on his lower back. His back feet are always wee stained, despite me cleaning the bunny room very regularly. I am struggling to keep him clean as it seems constant.

He seems uncomfortable. He is sitting differently. His tail is sort of under his bum, if this makes sense. He just looks odd.

We think that storm has arthritis and he has metacam for this but I think that maybe something else is going on. What could it be??

I am so worried :cry: I do not want to lose him. I have already lost gypsy and chico. I can't lose storm too. I am very scared :cry:

FudgeTort
05-06-2014, 12:49 PM
I hope the vets can give you some answers and something to make him more comfortable. Could it be the arthritis worsening as he gets older?

Is he happy in himself? That's what it always comes down to for me, the quality of life and stress that any further investigation or treatments would cause.

Kermit
05-06-2014, 12:56 PM
It could be a combination of his arthritis and maybe he has a wee urine infection too.

My Inca used to get urine infections and sore lady bits quite often. I personally would want to try antibiotics to see if it clears up any infection and maybe even up the metacam doseage to see if that helps any. He could be sitting funny as the metacam dosage is not helping enough and he is a bit sore with arthritis, then that could cause him to be wet below.

I think he just sounds like he needs some extra meds to sort him out, fingers crossed.

sparklefairy
05-06-2014, 02:05 PM
I really hope that some meds can sort him out. He is the last of my oldies now :cry:

Are there any herbs I can try?

sparklefairy
06-06-2014, 11:57 AM
Ok storm is reallt wobbly today. He had trouble getting up :cry::cry::cry:

Oh god no :cry: it is gypsy all over again :cry:

Please don't let me lose another furry :cry:

Jack's-Jane
06-06-2014, 12:02 PM
It could be an ear infection Rainbow. If he has severe arthritis then grooming himself may be a big problem and this can often lead to ear infections. Ear infections can effect the Rabbit's balance. Or it may be that he now has a lot of muscle wastage from his back end, so he just wont have muscle strength to retain stability.

What time is he due at the Vets ?

sparklefairy
06-06-2014, 12:26 PM
He is going in at 5. It was the earliest appointment I could get.

His back legs don't seem to do what he wants them too. He is very clumsy. I can't believe this is happening :cry: his arthritis must have very suddenly got worse.
:cry:
This is heartbreaking. This time last year gypsy was healthy chico was a crazy hhyper little ball of fluff and storm was tanking around the bunny room. Now gypsy and chico are dead and storm is old and struggling :cry:

Why do we put outselves through this ? I didn't see any of it coming. :cry:

kaths101
06-06-2014, 12:28 PM
Oh no I'm sorry, poor storm. I know you will do what is best for him. Hoping its something that can be treated. ((Big hugs)) xx

Schez
06-06-2014, 01:08 PM
Gentle (((vibes))) for Storm.xx

Wish I had something to suggest, but you are doing all the right things for him. It's hard to see our bunny companions grow older and struggle with what comes with it. Thinking of you - hope there is some positive news to follow.xx

Captain Helen
06-06-2014, 01:38 PM
Hope the vet can help. Sending lots of vibes for Storm xx

Sarah
06-06-2014, 01:48 PM
The one bun I had who showed these symptoms turned out to have e cuniculi :( sending vibes for Storm xxx

sparklefairy
06-06-2014, 01:57 PM
Thank you every one.

Sarah, gypsy had ec 3 years ago. I am very worried that storm now has it. Gypsy recovered from it and lived to be 10, but I do think that the ec weakened her :cry: storm is 9. I am not sure what ec would mean for him. I have been avoiding the e word. I have been hoping that it isn't this :cry:

kaths101
06-06-2014, 04:24 PM
My Charlie died from EC, I hope it isn't that :cry:

sparklefairy
06-06-2014, 06:49 PM
We are back from the vets. Storm has lost a bit of weight but they just want to monitor him for now. We have more metacam for his arthritis and panacur for possible ec. We also have tramadol. They have never used this on bunnies before so I would like to know if anyone else has used it? It is for his joints along with the metacam.

I have been told that we will never get storm back to being a young 2 year old skipping around but if we can keep him comfortable and happy that is the main thing.

I love my stormy. It is so sad to see him aging. :cry:

donnamt
06-06-2014, 06:58 PM
We are back from the vets. Storm has lost a bit of weight but they just want to monitor him for now. We have more metacam for his arthritis and panacur for possible ec. We also have tramadol. They have never used this on bunnies before so I would like to know if anyone else has used it? It is for his joints along with the metacam.

I have been told that we will never get storm back to being a young 2 year old skipping around but if we can keep him comfortable and happy that is the main thing.

I love my stormy. It is so sad to see him aging. :cry:

sending loads of vibes xxxxx

Lou at hopper haven uses tramadol, when i took holly to here she got rid of the vetergesic straight away and put her onto tramadol, it seems to work very well with buns :wave:

Jack's-Jane
06-06-2014, 07:23 PM
I have some Rabbits who have been prescribed Tramadol. It is a good analgesic for bone pain and it does not seem to cause the marked sedating effects that opiate pain killers can cause xx

sparklefairy
06-06-2014, 08:03 PM
Thank you xx

I was a bit worried when the vet told me she has never perscribed it for a rabbit before

ripminnie
06-06-2014, 08:03 PM
I have some Rabbits who have been prescribed Tramadol. It is a good analgesic for bone pain and it does not seem to cause the marked sedating effects that opiate pain killers can cause xx

Can they have it in liquid form? Or is it just injection?

Barn Yard Bunnies
06-06-2014, 08:05 PM
Poor Storm. Sending millions of vibes. I know how hard it has been for you. Hugs xxx

BB Mommy
06-06-2014, 08:10 PM
We use tramadol quite often and our very is happy to prescribe it for rabbits.

Several of my elderly rabbits have had tramadol when they needed it too.

bunnytoes
06-06-2014, 08:19 PM
Julie takes Tramadol in liquid form but only as needed when her arthritis is bothering her even with the Metacan mostly cold damp days. It seems to do the trick but when she first went on it it was twice a day. It lessened her appetite. It doesn't bother her appetite if she only takes it as needed and not regularly.
How is he ding now?

sparklefairy
06-06-2014, 08:24 PM
Storm has it in tablet form. That should be fun!

Sky-O
06-06-2014, 08:26 PM
I've had a good amount of rabbits on Tramadol, never had a problem with it, and always use it when Metacam alone is not enough. I have one on it forever, and another on it long term with a view to reduce in time. It's good stuff :D

Hugo's There
06-06-2014, 08:45 PM
We have had rabbits on tramadol too :wave:

JemimaH
06-06-2014, 08:53 PM
Hope the tramadol does the trick with Storm, bless him.

Good luck using the tablets! Dee's been on it but came off today, she had it in syrup form thankfully...I don't think I could have done tablets! :shock:

sparklefairy
07-06-2014, 10:30 AM
Thank you for your replies everyone.

I sneaked the tablet inside a raisin :thumb: raisin and tablet snaffled before he realized what was going on :D

How long does it normally take for them to show results?

Sky-O
07-06-2014, 10:41 AM
Thank you for your replies everyone.

I sneaked the tablet inside a raisin :thumb: raisin and tablet snaffled before he realized what was going on :D

How long does it normally take for them to show results?

Very smart, well done. I tend to find Tramadol works really quite quickly, at least to start to show initial improvement.

sparklefairy
07-06-2014, 06:48 PM
Is it normal for a bun to be a bit sleepy and go off his food on this stuff? I am having to remind storm to eat. Bare in mind that storm is a big greedy french lop

ripminnie
07-06-2014, 07:17 PM
I know that tramadol can make people sleepy, but i don't know about buns... I guess it would be similar? :?

bunnytoes
07-06-2014, 08:16 PM
Is it normal for a bun to be a bit sleepy and go off his food on this stuff? I am having to remind storm to eat. Bare in mind that storm is a big greedy french lop

Julie is really greedy with food. She really cut back eating when she was on Tramadol everyday twice a day. The vet said that it does kill some bunnies appetite and that is a popular side effect in humans along with the sleepiness. Julie was much less active on it. I took her off it then cut back her dose from .7 to .5 and started only giving it as needed for pain. She does not need it everyday now. Taking the lesser dose and only as needed it doesn't seem to bother her at all. We also split her Metacam dose so that she takes it twice a day.

sparklefairy
09-06-2014, 01:58 PM
Some of storm's appetite is back now. He is munching more hay than usual and not as many pellets :?
He does look a bit more comfy now. He even did his super storm laying down pose :love: although it took him a few seconds to find his feet afterwards.