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pipkoi
30-01-2014, 09:43 AM
Any advice please

My friend rehomed brothers from the RSPCA in September time. Wanted a sister & brother but they let the doe go - all from same rescued litter.

Anyway you've probably guessed where this is going

She's found a baby in the shed today. Totally unexpected. Now concerned as to what to do. Concerned if Mum should still be caring for it, has it fallen out of nest, though obviously older a furry (see pic below) concerned if Mum will find it, will it be able to get back up to hutch - 2 tier design.

Concerned because of cold weather. I'm wondering if there may be more

She is going to ring RSPCA but they obviously weren't very accurate first time round - told Bex that they had been neutered

Thanks in advance

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marleysworld
30-01-2014, 10:25 AM
Do you know which is the Mummy? You need to take Daddy out asap and keep him separate so he doesn't harm the baby. Mum will probably be pregnant again as well.
The baby looks to be at least a week old but hard to tell the size from the picture. It is possible there is only 1 baby as it is a first litter.
You need to check the top part of the hutch and see if there is a nest. If there is, rub your hands in the dirty straw in the hutch to get the scent on your hands and carefully put baby in it. I would also close off the ramp on the hutch so Mum and baby/babies are all on the same level. This will save any accidents from falling down the ramp.

Becky H
30-01-2014, 10:26 AM
Hi Everyone,

Not been on here in ages but these are my Rabbits that Pip has kindly posted about for me!

Any help would be much appreciated I am still in shock and absolutely fuming with rspca who haven't returned my call yet!

Baby bun seems interested in the dry food i put down but couldn't tell if it was eating any or not!

marleysworld
30-01-2014, 10:32 AM
Are it's eyes open? They usually open around 10 days old in mini lops. What breed are they?
As soon as the eyes are open I would expect them to take interest in the food/hay. They may not eat straight away but by 2 weeks they should be tucking in a little bit!

Sarah1989
30-01-2014, 10:49 AM
Sorry, I can't offer any advice, but have my fingers crossed for you and baby bunny (who is totally adorable by the way!!) and of course, mummy & daddy bunny.

FondueKid
30-01-2014, 10:58 AM
Is there anyone near you who is experienced enough to sex the parents so you can find out who is the mother?

I would get little bunny back into something like a nest asap as they can get cold very quickly and go into shock. If baby has survived this long I would take the risk and assume she'll keep feeding them.

Becky H
30-01-2014, 11:37 AM
I have felt the parents under carriages and can feel nipples on the bun I had a feeling was female anyway. (there was a female and three males to choose from, they were all entered and said we had two boys) She also has hair loss where she's been nesting so i'm pretty sure this is mum.

Will dad definitely hurt baby? i saw baby nuzzling round dad and he wasn't bothered. I will go and put baby in nest and mask my scent and put mum in there too so she finds it!

Will also see if i can see eyes!

I'll be happier with baby in nest as i need to clean the rest of the Hutch/shed out!

nursecroft
30-01-2014, 12:08 PM
I have felt the parents under carriages and can feel nipples on the bun I had a feeling was female anyway. (there was a female and three males to choose from, they were all entered and said we had two boys) She also has hair loss where she's been nesting so i'm pretty sure this is mum.

Will dad definitely hurt baby? i saw baby nuzzling round dad and he wasn't bothered. I will go and put baby in nest and mask my scent and put mum in there too so she finds it!

Will also see if i can see eyes!

I'll be happier with baby in nest as i need to clean the rest of the Hutch/shed out!

Yes definitely remove Dad asap, certainly not worth the risk. What a shock!

Becky H
30-01-2014, 12:34 PM
Well i have split them up although dad not pleased :(

Baby has eyes just open so must be about 10 days.

Should i put mum and baby on baby rabbit food? Currently on burgess tasty nuggets and hay.


Once everything sorted neutering wise and baby old enough will i be able to bond all 3 back together?!

Becky H
30-01-2014, 01:29 PM
Just remembered i have a house rabbit cage in the loft. Do you think mum and baby would be better off indoors where i can keep a closer eye on them and it would be a bit warmer!

I don't want to make re-bonding harder though as dad would be totally separated then!

silverrabbit
30-01-2014, 02:30 PM
Mum will def be pregnant again, they mate soon after giving birth so you could have a new litter on the way in under 3 weeks :(

Are there def no other babies? It could be that the male or female killed the others early on but def have a check around. When my bun had her babies 1 was an explorer and was out of the nest at 12/13 days old and the others stayed in the nest.

If you have somewhere quiet you could bring her and baby in (and any others that may be hiding deep in nest), that way you can keep an eye on mum and further pregnancies x

marleysworld
30-01-2014, 02:46 PM
I would leave mum and baby in the outside hutch. Just try to insulate it with bubble wrap/tarps etc to keep it as warm as possible especially as the weather seems to be getting colder. Also if you gently move it to a shed/garage without bouncing her around too much that may be a good option.

Sorry I don't have any experience with bonding but I think you need to keep Dad fairly close to Mum so they can still smell each other.

Sky-O
30-01-2014, 04:10 PM
There's a link in the health forum about having babies, so that would be worthwhile reading.

Baby is through the most crucial bit now as it has fur, so it should be fine outside as long as you keep them as protected as possible. and yes, mum will likely be pregnant again.

Which RSPCA did you get them from? Why were they not spayed/neutered before rehoming?

Becky H
30-01-2014, 05:09 PM
There's a link in the health forum about having babies, so that would be worthwhile reading.

Baby is through the most crucial bit now as it has fur, so it should be fine outside as long as you keep them as protected as possible. and yes, mum will likely be pregnant again.

Which RSPCA did you get them from? Why were they not spayed/neutered before rehoming?

Thanks i'll check that link!

Rspca in leicester, they told me they had been spayed and neutered!

I checked on them just now and had to dig right in nest to find baby.....which is when i found its (at least) 5 brothers and sisters! can't believe i didn't see them this morning!

marleysworld
30-01-2014, 06:17 PM
Keep us updated. I can't wait to see pics!

Jojo123
30-01-2014, 06:23 PM
What a shock! A cute one though! Have the RSPCA got back to you?

Becky H
30-01-2014, 06:44 PM
What a shock! A cute one though! Have the RSPCA got back to you?

Yes i rang again and got through to someone this time. They dug out paperwork which said they had been neutered in July! They said to take the male into them tomorrow to check if he's been castrated and to wait until babies are old enough to leave mum and they will have her spayed.

If I can't find homes for babies I'm hoping they will help with that too!

Jojo123
30-01-2014, 06:55 PM
Yes i rang again and got through to someone this time. They dug out paperwork which said they had been neutered in July! They said to take the male into them tomorrow to check if he's been castrated and to wait until babies are old enough to leave mum and they will have her spayed.

If I can't find homes for babies I'm hoping they will help with that too!

Im sure they will if needed as it is their fault that there are babies in the first place! Something must be off somewhere if they were both supposed to be neutered :wave:

biscandmatt1
30-01-2014, 07:19 PM
what a shock :shock:

Becky H
30-01-2014, 09:16 PM
I'd just like to thank everyone fir your advise and support today! I don't post on here anymore but when a bunny is in need you all helped me out so much and I really appreciate your kindness.....so a big Thank You from me and the Bunny family!

bunny babe
30-01-2014, 09:21 PM
:shock: Must have been such a shock for you. We will need photos though.

Becky H
31-01-2014, 11:13 PM
Just thought I'd update you all on the situation today!

Took Ben (dad) to RSPCA and he is indeed still entire. They were extremely apologetic about the whole mess up and have agreed to castrate Ben (again) on Monday. Obviously they can't spay Holly (mum) yet until babies are older and when we know if she's pregnant again or not, but I'm just relieved they are happy to get this done for us (as it's not cheap! They are also going to find homes for the babies so that is also out of our hands! We want to keep one of them and (for 30) they will neuter and vaccinate for us. Successfully I hope!

Meanwhile I have brought Ben in the house until he is infertile! RSPCA said probably best to leave mum and babies where they are used to. They are in a Hutch within a shed and babies appear warm, cozy and deep in the nest. Too deep to get a photo! Two of my dogs are great with rabbits but one is a little ott with wanting to chase things! So gotta keep him out of the same room! Ben seems pretty settled already in his luxury holiday villa!

*Funny*Bunny*
31-01-2014, 11:31 PM
Just thought I'd update you all on the situation today!

Took Ben (dad) to RSPCA and he is indeed still entire. They were extremely apologetic about the whole mess up and have agreed to castrate Ben (again) on Monday. Obviously they can't spay Holly (mum) yet until babies are older and when we know if she's pregnant again or not, but I'm just relieved they are happy to get this done for us (as it's not cheap! They are also going to find homes for the babies so that is also out of our hands! We want to keep one of them and (for 30) they will neuter and vaccinate for us. Successfully I hope!

Meanwhile I have brought Ben in the house until he is infertile! RSPCA said probably best to leave mum and babies where they are used to. They are in a Hutch within a shed and babies appear warm, cozy and deep in the nest. Too deep to get a photo! Two of my dogs are great with rabbits but one is a little ott with wanting to chase things! So gotta keep him out of the same room! Ben seems pretty settled already in his luxury holiday villa!

Wow, that's such a shock!! How could they have accidentally not neutered him?! :shock: You would have that in his health check before they handed him to you they'd have a glance at his underside and seen two testicles! Although maybe he has little balls! My boy had ones he used to almost drag behind him, no missing them!

Really glad they are sorting things out for you! It is their fault after all! Looking forwards to seeing pics of the babies when they're old enough to be seen! I'm sure you'll love having Ben inside, mine are indoors, it's lovely, although they are naughty, I just had to tell Harvey off for "improving" the sofa :roll: he binkied with the excitement of having been naughty :roll:

I reckon whenever I next adopt a pet I'll be double checking things just in case :p I'm so surprised that this happened!