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Dawson
22-11-2013, 01:17 PM
I am somewhat confused on what to call them...

Hi,

I'm getting a giant rabbit halfway in December and I will move flats next week.
I would have at least 2 weeks left to bunny proof the flat and buy all the supplies and of course a place where she can sleep, safe and comfy.
Because it is a giant bunny she's gonna get really big and I find it hard to find rabbit hutches. They are either too small or too big (and with too big I mean, hutches for outside and will never fit in the flat) She's gonna be an indoor house rabbit :)
I might want to start with a small play area until she's litter trained but in general my idea is that I will bunny proof the flat, and she can have free range. I was planning on having the litter box outside of her hutch/cage/shelter and her (okay I will call it a hutch for now) hutch door would always be open and maybe she doesn't even like to sleep in there, who knows?
So because of the size I have been looking at 'hutches' for dogs.
How big does it have to be, if she can always have access to the flat?
Another thing, Do I have to buy it specially for her, or would I have to buy something where she and later her friend could go in? (Like, would they both have their own, or one shared/bigger one?)

I like the wooden ones more than those crates and what kind of bedding would you guys suggest?

BigBunnyBenji
22-11-2013, 01:19 PM
Do you mean somewhere for her to sleep in basically?

P@H do have quite big/wide hutches which would be acceptable for them to be kept in over night, but not all day.

I just wanted to add that I have had a giant bunny in the house too, and he never slept in his 'bedroom', he just preferred to sleep on the carpet. All he did was pee in his bed. :(
I just bought him a soft basket from Home Bargains and he seemed to like lying in that, he even bunny flopped into it when I first gave it him. :love:

elmoandfern
22-11-2013, 01:25 PM
Do you mean somewhere for her to sleep in basically?

P@H do have quite big/wide hutches which would be acceptable for them to be kept in over night, but not all day.

I just wanted to add that I have had a giant bunny in the house too, and he never slept in his 'bedroom', he just preferred to sleep on the carpet. All he did was pee in his bed. :(
I just bought him a soft basket from Home Bargains and he seemed to like lying in that, he even bunny flopped into it when I first gave it him. :love:

I don't think you can get any hutch that's big enough for a giant to be kept in for any period of time, especially not overnight.

For a base that's always open, you could use a big dog crate? You could attach a puppy pen for the early days before she is housetrained and if everything is not bunny proofed yet :thumb:

ETA I would definitely make it big enough for 2 bunnies to snuggle :love:

Aly&Poppy<3
22-11-2013, 01:26 PM
A crate? The largest dog crate you can get is 48inches which is only 4ft x 2'ish ft so not big enough for a rabbit to be shut in, especially a giant. Rabbits are most active at night so the space they get shut in needs to be a good size.

I had a 48inch crate but tbh if you are bunny proofing you might as well just get a large storage box to use as a litter tray and have a water bowl and food bowl by that and use it as her base. The crate is huge and took us so much room, having a free range rabbit is much less of an eye sore in this house!

If you wanted to close her in at night I would be looking at a puppy pen, or maybe 2 for a giant. They are only 25-40 on eBay so loads cheaper than any hutch/crate/cage you can get which are usually too small.

http://forums.rabbitrehome.org.uk/showthread.php?304613-Indoor-Housing

Dawson
22-11-2013, 01:53 PM
Thanks all,

I don't plan on shutting her in at night, the door would always be open. :)
I thought she might want to have her own space where she could sleep or hide from me?
Do you mean that as long as I provide a litter tray, water bowl, food bowl etc (toys of course) she doesn't need a hutch?

I was looking at these kind of things: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dog-kennel-garden-dog-kennels-pet-kennel-pet-puppy-house-wooden-animal-shelter-/141037785569?pt=UK_Home_Garden_Kitchen_Steamers_Co okers_PP&hash=item20d681d1e1
I don't mean that size but just in general dog houses.

elmoandfern
22-11-2013, 02:14 PM
I had an indoor bunny and I have him a dog crate as a shelter and he never went in it:roll: so no I don't think you need one if you have all the essentials and hidey places :wave:

BigBunnyBenji
22-11-2013, 02:15 PM
I don't think you can get any hutch that's big enough for a giant to be kept in for any period of time, especially not overnight.

For a base that's always open, you could use a big dog crate? You could attach a puppy pen for the early days before she is housetrained and if everything is not bunny proofed yet :thumb:

ETA I would definitely make it big enough for 2 bunnies to snuggle :love:

I meant as somewhere to sleep, rather than to be closed in. My giants have never been enclosed in any hutch/kennel.

You can buy large plastic dog kennels, I have one and it is easily big enough for my conti to sleep in, but all they ever do is poop in it.

http://www.petsathome.com/shop/kenny-5-plastic-kennel-by-ferplast-93255

Dawson
22-11-2013, 05:32 PM
Hmm, well if she's only gonna use it as an extra litter tray I'll pass! haha.
So on what do they like to sleep? I kind of had this image of straw and hay, not only to eat the hay but also to sleep on. But I don't think my roommate will like it if I put straw and hay randomly on the ground "as a bed"

bunny babe
22-11-2013, 05:39 PM
You could get a plastic dog bed and put hay in it. I have a large shed and in one dog bed there is blankets and vet bed and the other is hay. Both have been used as "beds". Sometimes they just like to sit on a blanket.

Similar to these and they come in different sizes:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Do-not-disturb-plastic-dog/dp/B003KBGU0A/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1385137077&sr=8-4&keywords=dog+beds+plastic

RavenMoon
22-11-2013, 06:03 PM
I made cushions for Pooka once she was litter trained. Your bun may like a child's pop up tent, or a couple of cardboard boxes with doorways cut in, so that she has somewhere to 'hide' in case something upsets her. I've just gotten some foam tiles on eBay, like the gym floor ones, and set them up under Pooka's water bowl as she kept flipping it up :roll: they're a good way of water protecting the carpet and much easier to get hay off of. Apparently they're comfier than carpet too, as many bunny flops told me. On top of that are the cushions mentioned above and a fleece blanket. She nibbled at the tiles to begin with but once she realised they were a bit bland got bored of that :thumb:

Hele
22-11-2013, 06:03 PM
I have an indoor giant bun and she lives in a room with her husbun. They don't have a bed as such but 3 litter trays stuffed with hay, 2 of which are underbed storage boxes and the third is a large plastic dog bed.

I find any container of hay that they can sit in is likely to be used as a litter tray so make sure it is absorbent and leak proof! Giants do mahoosive wees! :shock:

They have boxes to play in and dig at and I want to get them a child's play tunnel for Christmas as Farore doesn't fit through the bunny ones although I have seen her try!!! :lol: they have a homebase value doormat that has long fibres and feels like fluffy carpet which they like to sleep on but I normally find that they never sleep on things bought for that purpose! :roll:

After Christmas they will be moving house into the living room and I have bought this http://http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/50161321/ which I will take an end off and one of their litter trays fits perfectly in there! So ill put a hay rack and a litter tray in there so they have somewhere which is 'theirs' plus hopefully it will contain some of the hay! They will still have their dog bed too as they like that and it works really well.

tulsi
22-11-2013, 06:11 PM
When Mottle and Peaches were indoors (mini lop and a lionhead x) they liked to go behind the sofa as a retreat space and used underbed storage boxes as litter trays.

You could get a table for them to go under/on.

Shimmer
22-11-2013, 07:22 PM
If you want an enclosed bed space / hidey hole, you could use a large cat carrier withn the door removed - they also come in dog sizes. I use standard size cat carriers indoors as bed areas. I put a few sheets of newspaper in the bottom and then stuff it with hay at the back and on the floor. If you face it in towards eg a wall, there is less tracking of hay over the floor and it looks a bit neater all round. It is also very easy to clean. Outside, I use these:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SNUGS-CAT-SHELTER-KENNEL-CATHOUSE-MOULDED-PLASTIC-STONE-/131038631983

This is also nice:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DELUXE-PET-DOG-PUPPY-CAT-PLASTIC-KENNEL-HOUSE-DOGHOUSE-INDOOR-OUTDOOR-SHELTER-/151172413793

tulsi
22-11-2013, 07:59 PM
I find my lot like to sit on top of things so a flat roof would be good.

Dawson
29-11-2013, 09:28 PM
Thanks everyone for the replies! After my money came in today I've been looking at dog crates again :oops:

My boyfriend thinks its too big!

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/2-door-his-hers-Pink-or-Blue-dog-crates-cages-/00/s/MTYwMFgxNTI5/z/CMMAAMXQ855Ruxi1/$T2eC16RHJIkE9qU3kV7vBRu%29i03qqg~~60_12.JPG

They have these sizes:

Small 24"L x 18"W x 21"H 29.95

Medium 30"L x 21"W x 24"H 37.95

Large 36"L x 24"W x 26"H 44.95

Extra Large 42"L x 28"W x 31"H 58.95

Giant 48"L x 30"W x 32"H 72.95

Plus I really like the pink colour:oops:

I have also seen these:
http://media.mediazs.com/bilder/tabby/indoor/cage/l/7/300/94857_tabby_l_02_08_2013_12_7.jpg

Small: 76.5 x 50.5 x 58.5 cm (L x W x H)
and
Large: 105.5 x 66 x 70 cm (L x W x H)

On a side note we've had this cage(Or very very similar!) for our dog a Labradoodle (size of a labrador) so I kind of understand when some of my friends criticize me on this.
I don't like the colour lol.

Once again the door would always be open, day and night! (But would be handy if I have to clean or hoover around)

tulsi
29-11-2013, 09:45 PM
Loving the pink crate. Link please :wave:

Shimmer
29-11-2013, 09:47 PM
I use the 48" dog crates as temporary secure enclosures or as part of a larger run - but I have small bunnies (1.2-2.5kg). Even with a shelf in, there isn't much room for a couple of little rabbits to move around. They are going to be quite a tight space for giant buns so would only be suitable as a 'safe' area or somewhere to put food bowls, etc so I wouldn't consider anything smaller than the 48" one.

I suspect that the plastic trays will get chewed eventually - mine are metal - but that also makes them colder to sit on.

I can see the appeal of the one on wheels for ease of cleaning. Our dog crate in the lounge (for the dog) is really difficult to clean round the edges where the bits of food go - and he doesn't have hay to deal with.

Dawson
11-12-2013, 03:03 PM
I'm guessing this would be too small for a giant?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Soft-Strawberry-Pet-Igloo-Dog-Cat-Bed-House-Kennel-Doggy-Fashion-Cushion-Basket-/281200845622
Its so cute!

I did get the dog crate and I will see how it goes, it not a place where I would lock her into, just somewhere she could go if she wanted.
If she chooses to never use it I can always sell it...
I wanted to get one with a steel tray, but the last one was sold just before I wanted to buy it :/

one concern for me, would she jump on top of the crate?
It seems pretty high to me. If she would I'm afraid she would injure herself.
I'd like to put something on top of it to make it darker/safer to jump on, or if she wouldn't jump on it I could use it to put other stuff on :P

Dawson
20-12-2013, 10:28 AM
Ohh I had a bit of a bidding war on Ebay on sunday:oops: and yesterday my puppy pen arrived!
I have not been able to set it up yet, but had a quick look at and it seems smaller then I thought :cry:
However it is only temporarily until she is litter trained and then I can use it as a wall I guess to protect my cardboard moving boxes in my room:lol:
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/7801/5m26.jpg

I am getting more and more excited about the rabbit :) My colleagues call me rabbit crazy.
The train ticket is booked as well (98 pound!!!)
15 days to go :D

Captain Helen
20-12-2013, 11:31 AM
If you're getting a large carrier to take her to the vets when she's fully grown (with space for a friend of course) then I'd just leave that out with the door removed.

Fellie
20-12-2013, 11:36 AM
I'm getting excited for you...but just a warning - your life will never be the same again:lol:! In a good way of course:thumb:

You will always find the puppy pen useful - we have 3 now, and I don't know how we managed without - really useful for keeping buns away from no-go areas.

And the thing is with buns - you can prepare all you like, they arrive and decide how THEY want things...so you just learn to adapt stuff to what bunster wants - it's all part of the process of becoming a bunny slave :love:

Dawson
20-12-2013, 11:57 AM
@Captain Helen
I have been looking for carriers all week! I have no idea what sizes are 'okay'.
I guess one big enough for 2 is not gonna work for me. They are really expensive (the ones I have seen so far) and probably impossible for me to carry alone. I think I'd rather go for 2 smaller ones.

On a side note: Is 51 cm L x 33 cm W x 35 cm H (20in x 13in x 13.75in) big enough for 1?

@Fellie
Haha yes, I'm thinking of the worst and then it can only become better!

I'm already saving up lots of cardboard boxes and metro newspapers :D

Captain Helen
20-12-2013, 12:04 PM
Yeah, I haven't found one big enough for two. I struggle with carrying one giant :oops: Wilko's used to do a large plastic one that was a good price, I can't see it on their website now to check the size.

Emma H
20-12-2013, 06:57 PM
@Captain Helen
I have been looking for carriers all week! I have no idea what sizes are 'okay'.
I guess one big enough for 2 is not gonna work for me. They are really expensive (the ones I have seen so far) and probably impossible for me to carry alone. I think I'd rather go for 2 smaller ones.

On a side note: Is 51 cm L x 33 cm W x 35 cm H (20in x 13in x 13.75in) big enough for 1?

@Fellie
Haha yes, I'm thinking of the worst and then it can only become better!

I'm already saving up lots of cardboard boxes and metro newspapers :D

Hi Dawson

I wouldn't recommend two smaller carriers. I was advised for trips to the vets it is best for a pair (when you get your other bun) to be together so they can snuggle as going to the vets is very stressful. This is also good for their bond.

I posted the other day in another thread where someone was asking about carriers for two giant buns as I have recently purchased one that is more than big enough for my two French Lops with wheels. And 50 is an absolute bargain I thought (given that the smaller ferplast ones are like 30) It could also serve as a little (or rather big.haha) little den/hidey place (although my two just dig in it).

I don't think your size measurements are big enough for one-my two are both about 70cm long when they lie down stretched and they are a large breed not a giant breed. The length of your carrier wouldn't be long enough for a giant to lie flat if it wanted to.

Hope that's helped

http://www.petplanet.co.uk/product.asp?dept_id=5847&pf_id=61945

xxx


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Dawson
22-12-2013, 03:08 PM
Thank you I had seen it before :)
The problem I have with 1 big one for 2 is that I am not sure if I could carry it around?
I know it has wheels but for example I'm not gonna roll it down the stairs :lol:

Emma H
22-12-2013, 11:15 PM
Oh I see, I didn't think of stairs! My vets is all on one level.

I am able to lift it to get it in and out of the car, it has two handles :) going up and down stairs may be tricky with the size of it though if you were on your own?

xxx


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Dawson
23-12-2013, 12:16 AM
I don't know about the vet because I have not found one yet :P
But I live in a flat and there's no lift.
I don't have a car, I guess I could call a taxi but if I'm going somewhere bit further away I'm dependent of buses/trains. It seemed to me that 2 separate would be easier to handle. I'm not gonna get the second bun until the first one is spayed and I managed to lend a cat carrier to pick the first one up. But she's gonna grow out of that soon.

Aly&Poppy<3
23-12-2013, 12:28 AM
I have one of these, my 4kg and 2kg pair of rabbits fit nicely in it with plenty of room to spare. Not sure on a giant but it is a big carrier, I would try and find one to keep 2 rabbits together. If I took Donny and Lola in separate carriers I think their bond would break, Lola tries to attack Donny when he goes back in the carrier after his turn on the vet table!

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?sbk=1&nav=SEARCH&itemId=111207983560

Dawson
26-12-2013, 09:47 PM
So 9 more days!!!
Time flies!

http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/4075/jt7j.jpg
I bought that pink storage box online from argos went to pick it up and it was bigger than I expected :/
Is it too high? or can I use it with a bridge? I wanted to use it as a litterbox.
The throw comes from primark for 3 pound. 100% polyester, is that okay for rabbits?
I wanted to put it in the puppy pen but it seems fine in the dog crate..

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/8174/2byz.jpg
The rug comes from Ebay and was 11 pound inclusive postage, was longer than the crate but slimmer, so it didn't fit in the crate.
I cut the cardbox from the crate in 2 and put it under the crate and on the carpet, above that I put the rug. To keep the rug in place I've put in a bit under the crate. I have ordered a second and bigger rug from the same seller because they were doing a 50% sale. Right now the whole area of the puppy pen is covered with cardbox, and on top of that I want to put the rugs. Hoping she wont chew them, what other ideas to protect the carpet :/
I have now attached the pen to the crate using cable ties (is this a bad idea?)

My boyfriend is complaining that the rabbit has more space than I do :lol: and finds it annoying that we have to get in the puppy pen and out to get to my bed. He says the rabbit is not here yet so why do you put it up? But I want to get used to this. It is not ideal but it is for a short time.

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/1460/by3i.jpg
I bought this today in TK Maxx and it was for in the kitchen/bathroom but it looked perfect as a hayrack! i can hang it anywhere but above the litterbox seemed a good idea to me.
http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/6894/nb97.jpg
close up


I ordered the following and am waiting for it to arrive:
http://media.mediazs.com/bilder/trixie/brown/ceramic/bowl/with/paw/prints/1/300/104479_trixie_fressnapf_bra_1.jpg
Dog Bowl 0.8 litre. Is this too big/small? Either want to use it for food or water

http://media.mediazs.com/bilder/trixie/metal/salad/rack/1/300/10514_Trixie_Salatraufe_1.jpg
Salad rack

http://media.mediazs.com/bilder/wicker/bridge/for/small/pets/2/300/207088_nagerbruecke_2.jpg
wicker bridge 50 cm x 30 cm

http://media.mediazs.com/bilder/jr/mr/woodfield/willow/hay/rack/1/300/278509_mr_woodfield_weiden_heukorb_1.jpg
willow hay rack
Ingredients
Willow (54%), hay (41%), blossoms of marigold, hibiscus, camomile, cornflowers, roses, mallow, hops
Additives
Protein 12.5%, oils & fats 3.4%

http://media.mediazs.com/bilder/yumi/radiator/bed/with/reversible/cover/1/300/382311_heizungsliege_yumi_mit_wendebezug_gro__mit_ wei_em_hintergrund_11_2013_1.jpg
Radiator bed, I know its not a cat, but it looks nice?

Okay so what am I still missing!?
I want to get another food/drink bowl and also a drink bottle for traveling/extra
I need to buy food, am thinking of science selective Junior???
and hay!
So far my temporary litterbox seems endless while trying to fill it with shredded newspaper, any other cheap and good alternatives?
I want to get toys as well of course. But want everything that I definitely need done withing now and 9 days :P
I went to pets at homes today but it was closed -.-

And also what do you guys think of what I have up until now?

Thank you for helping me out here :D

Also, the carrier in the first picture is from my colleague and I will use it to pick the rabbit up, but I am definitely thinking about buying one of those huge ones 2 people mentioned:)

Aly&Poppy<3
26-12-2013, 09:56 PM
Looking good :) A 32L storage box might be better, they're about 3, that one looks a bit tall but would be good to store food etc in, a 32L storage box would just be easier to fill and not take so much. I just line mine with newspaper and fill with hay, it's easy to roll up for cleaning out then. You'd want to make sure the paper wasn't being digested, especially being a baby (I think?), you want to make hay the most interesting and important thing for the rabbit.

Here's my indoor rabbits 32L storage box litter trays. Cleaned out daily and I use a puppy pad with them (pack of 30 from b&m for 5) and filled with hay.

http://i1332.photobucket.com/albums/w620/alyysha2/Mobile%20Uploads/D1AF1DE0-7A8E-497C-8381-F1E2128DB536_zpsn8j4nycg.jpg (http://s1332.photobucket.com/user/alyysha2/media/Mobile%20Uploads/D1AF1DE0-7A8E-497C-8381-F1E2128DB536_zpsn8j4nycg.jpg.html)

Edit- I used cable ties on the crate/pen before Poppy was free range and they worked fine. And apart from putting the rugs down I don't think there is anything you can do to protect the carpet, but that should be enough. The rabbit might ignore carpet though.

Dawson
28-12-2013, 08:55 PM
I hope she's the kind of bunny that leaves the carpet alone *wishful thinking* :D
That's a quite nice setup!
I was thinking of doing it everyday as well but that is a lot of hay to throw away :/?
Problem with my box it looked reasonable online I even take a tape measure with me to work!
and yes 26 centimetre didn't look high at all, until I picked the box up at argos :/
I hope I can find something similar to yours cheap! I've come down to spending almost 400 pound on stuff for the rabbit (food+hay included) and have only 60 left for myself till the end of january :oops:

Aly&Poppy<3
28-12-2013, 09:04 PM
I use the expensive hay in the hay racks, like h4p and timothy hay, then the baled hay in litter trays. It costs me 5 a bale so it's easy for me to just put in the green bin etc. I used to use The Range's and asda's meadow hay in litter trays which worked well too, but then I found a horse supply shop. With the 32L storage box I would put a few pages of newspaper down then a few handfuls of the hay, just to cover the top as it was easier to spot clean, but now I get baled hay I just fill them. Those storage boxes are 4 in asda, 3.50 in Wilkos and 5 in The Range I think.

You could just use some newspaper then Fitch/auboise etc in the litter tray, then plenty of hay in hay racks, newspaper pieces aren't terribly absorbent and can smell pretty gross after a bit. I tried it as a digging box substrate once but the wee smell wasn't nice!

Sam and Truffs
28-12-2013, 11:47 PM
Are you getting a conti? You need the heaviest dog bowl you can find - the really heavy Mason & Cash one - because they can pick them up and throw them. Even that one they can move. For size, think of them as growing to the same size as a medium dog without the long legs. My contis are 7.5 kgs each - probably more now, as they are still growing. They weigh more than my cocker spaniel. They are really strong, and when my vets didn't want to take them upstairs for their spay in the metal dogcrate I'd brought them in, they put them into a plastic carrier and one of them thumped and broke the carrier. They could jump to the top of your dogcrate with ease, so I'd make sure there is something flat on top so they don't get their feet stuck.

Hele
28-12-2013, 11:57 PM
Are you getting a conti? You need the heaviest dog bowl you can find - the really heavy Mason & Cash one - because they can pick them up and throw them. Even that one they can move. For size, think of them as growing to the same size as a medium dog without the long legs. My contis are 7.5 kgs each - probably more now, as they are still growing. They weigh more than my cocker spaniel. They are really strong, and when my vets didn't want to take them upstairs for their spay in the metal dogcrate I'd brought them in, they put them into a plastic carrier and one of them thumped and broke the carrier. They could jump to the top of your dogcrate with ease, so I'd make sure there is something flat on top so they don't get their feet stuck.

Yep, I have a small conti and she needs the largest dog bowl available, it's 25cm diameter I think!

I tried her with a large casserole dish... She could throw that even if it was full :shock::lol: lots of mopping up!

Dawson
29-12-2013, 01:54 AM
Are you getting a conti? You need the heaviest dog bowl you can find - the really heavy Mason & Cash one - because they can pick them up and throw them. Even that one they can move. For size, think of them as growing to the same size as a medium dog without the long legs. My contis are 7.5 kgs each - probably more now, as they are still growing. They weigh more than my cocker spaniel. They are really strong, and when my vets didn't want to take them upstairs for their spay in the metal dogcrate I'd brought them in, they put them into a plastic carrier and one of them thumped and broke the carrier. They could jump to the top of your dogcrate with ease, so I'd make sure there is something flat on top so they don't get their feet stuck.

Yes I'm getting a conti..
The one I ordered is a 0.8 liter ceramic dog bowl, so I hope it is "heavy".
I ordered from zooplus but apparently it comes from Germany, so sending it back is not really an option :/
Do they actually need a bowl for the food? Are the ones you can attach to a dog crate okay?
I do know the size of them :lol: We used to have a cocker spaniel and bring it to farm where there were loads of flemish giants and they were bigger, my poor dog was scared of them!
Ahh I did ask about the top of the dog crate, I will cover it up then I don't want her to get stuck of course.
Why didn't the vet want to take them upstairs in the metal dogcrate? I lend a plastic carrier to pick her up (she'll be 9 weeks then) but obviously have to buy something else for later on.

Sam and Truffs
29-12-2013, 10:41 AM
Yes I'm getting a conti..
The one I ordered is a 0.8 liter ceramic dog bowl, so I hope it is "heavy".
I ordered from zooplus but apparently it comes from Germany, so sending it back is not really an option :/
Do they actually need a bowl for the food? Are the ones you can attach to a dog crate okay?
I do know the size of them :lol: We used to have a cocker spaniel and bring it to farm where there were loads of flemish giants and they were bigger, my poor dog was scared of them!
Ahh I did ask about the top of the dog crate, I will cover it up then I don't want her to get stuck of course.
Why didn't the vet want to take them upstairs in the metal dogcrate? I lend a plastic carrier to pick her up (she'll be 9 weeks then) but obviously have to buy something else for later on.

The dogcrate was so heavy and bulky with them both in (thought they weighed slightly less then!), I guess that's why. I wasn't there by that point but they were very nice about it and didn't charge me. I can't carry the dogcrate on my own anymore with them both in it so I need something else, and I picked up something on Freecycle which is the same size roughly as the Ferplast Atlas 50 which was recommended to me on here as a good size for 2 contis. It's plastic though so am not sure if they will be able to break it! Luckily Nettle's eye got better and we stopped having to go to the vet every week.

Captain Helen
29-12-2013, 11:30 AM
That's looking great! Good idea for the hayrack. To protect the carpet you could have a look in carpet shops for an off cut of lino. I found a 12x3 piece for 10 (then my dad haggled it down to 8 :D). Then put the rugs on top of that to make it less slippy. Lino might be nice and cool to lie on in the summer too.

How about a tunnel? The cardboard or hay covered ones are good for shredding. I don't think there are any big enough for a full grown conti, but she can enjoy it as a baby. Like this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rosewood-Naturals-Edible-Gnawshay-n-Hide-Large/dp/B003II221G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1388311136&sr=8-1&keywords=hay+tunnel

Maybe a jingle ball or a willow ball? If you save the cardboard tubes from inside kitchen roll, stuff the ends with hay and put a bit of food in the middle for a cheap toy.

Dawson
29-12-2013, 12:40 PM
The dogcrate was so heavy and bulky with them both in (thought they weighed slightly less then!), I guess that's why. I wasn't there by that point but they were very nice about it and didn't charge me. I can't carry the dogcrate on my own anymore with them both in it so I need something else, and I picked up something on Freecycle which is the same size roughly as the Ferplast Atlas 50 which was recommended to me on here as a good size for 2 contis. It's plastic though so am not sure if they will be able to break it! Luckily Nettle's eye got better and we stopped having to go to the vet every week.

Well I have the dogcrate but there is no way I can pick that up alone :lol: I'll have to wait till I get paid end of january :oops: before I can buy a carrier. For now the plastic one from my colleague will have to do or a cardboard box. Its good they didn't charge you! It was their idea to put them in something else...

@Captain Helen

That's a great idea unfortunately I'm out of money at the moment so will have to wait till end of January for any additional things.
I wanted to buy a tunnel but didn't see any big enough, so I started looking at those for small children. I think that might be better..

I actually did buy 3 balls and I'm saving up the cardboard toilet tubes :P

Here's a picture of everything I bought up until now for the rabbit:

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/5588/vlza.png

+10 kg SS junior.

I'm out of money now, but if she eats more than 12 kg before the end of january I can make a stretch to buy more food and hay lol but no toys :(

Captain Helen
29-12-2013, 01:19 PM
I once got a load of lino from Freecycle. :)

That's probably enough toys and stuff for now. Great idea about using a child's play tunnel, I never thought of that. Just had a look on Amazon and they do them with play cubes and tents, perfect for big buns!

I don't know how much baby Contis eat, but 12kg should last a while!

Dawson
27-07-2014, 01:52 AM
So I finally got the carrier Emma suggested... I am super happy with it. But not got a clue on how I take this down the stairs xD here's a video with Chi-Chi in it: https://vimeo.com/101754487