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Jack's-Jane
13-09-2013, 06:47 AM
Oh god

:cry:

KB
13-09-2013, 06:53 AM
Oh no Jane!
Sending massive speedy get well vibes for Endeavour.

Mackers
13-09-2013, 06:56 AM
Massive (((((vibes))))) that he's feeling better very, very soon. I've been there with bloat too :cry:.

esupi
13-09-2013, 07:06 AM
Noooo!
Sending ALL the vibes for Endeavour Jane. Bloat is :evil:

Peterbunny
13-09-2013, 07:06 AM
Aww speedy recovery vibes being sent to the handsome Endeavour :love: x x x

Tinsel
13-09-2013, 07:08 AM
Sending millions of vibes for little Endeavour...

MimzMum
13-09-2013, 07:19 AM
Oh My Lord, no...Please, :cry: please, let Endeavour be healed. (((((((((((((((((((Massive healing vibes and prayers))))))))))))))))))))))))) xxxx

Focusing on you both with all my thoughts and prayers, Jane. xxxx

Sam and Truffs
13-09-2013, 07:20 AM
Fingers tightly crossed for him. x

Roly Poly
13-09-2013, 07:24 AM
Sending special vibes for Endeavour and lots of love and strength to you xxx

Bunny Buddy
13-09-2013, 07:43 AM
:cry::cry::cry:Poor baby.

Sending bucket loads of vibes

Ailstar
13-09-2013, 07:45 AM
Oh no :( sending lots if vibes for Endevour. He really is gorgeous, I love looking at his pics. X

ripminnie
13-09-2013, 07:50 AM
Oh god, sending mega mega vibes for your gorgeous boy :( xxx

chul
13-09-2013, 07:51 AM
Tonnes of vibes x

Tracy
13-09-2013, 07:52 AM
Sending loads and loads of vibes for Endeavour. xx

Pebblesetc
13-09-2013, 07:57 AM
Millions and millions of vibes for Endeavour <3

Zoobec
13-09-2013, 08:17 AM
Oh no, sending mega vibes for his recovery xx

Gemmapookie
13-09-2013, 08:19 AM
Loads and loads of vibes xxxxx

Willowsmum
13-09-2013, 08:24 AM
:shock::shock:

Come on boy keep going :oops:

elmoandfern
13-09-2013, 08:25 AM
Sending billions of get well vibes for endeavour xxxx

FudgeTort
13-09-2013, 08:25 AM
Lots of vibes for endeavour today xx

Alison Marie
13-09-2013, 08:30 AM
lots of healing vibes being sent for Endeavour, come on little lad xxx

Jackaroonie
13-09-2013, 08:31 AM
Oh no :(

Sending tonnes of vibes for Endeavour and for you Jane.

Thinking of you both today xx

Amy104
13-09-2013, 08:34 AM
Lots of vibes x

Mattie_G
13-09-2013, 08:36 AM
Oh no. come on Endeavour. Sending vibes x.

Vanessa.B
13-09-2013, 08:38 AM
Oh no, oh Jane. Sending masses of vibes xxx

ashbunny
13-09-2013, 08:39 AM
Sending lots of vibes!

*Bex*
13-09-2013, 09:01 AM
Oh no, sending lots of vibes!

weedug
13-09-2013, 09:08 AM
Lots of vibes x

Rupert & Tia
13-09-2013, 09:12 AM
Oh no :( millions an millions of vibes!!!! Hope he's ok x

Fellie
13-09-2013, 09:21 AM
Oh Jane :( - loads of healing vibes to the little guy - I know you can pull him through this Jane.

Hele
13-09-2013, 09:39 AM
Oh no! Oh Jane :(

Come on Endeavour you lovely boy, feel better soon xxx

JJS
13-09-2013, 09:57 AM
Sending vibes Jane... he can make it....hugsX

Carolinew5
13-09-2013, 10:00 AM
I cant give you advise but i can send Endeavor and yourself my prayers for a speedy recovery :) :love:

panda-monium
13-09-2013, 10:04 AM
Get well endeavor

xClairex
13-09-2013, 10:13 AM
Sending healing vibes for Endeavour x

RavenMoon
13-09-2013, 10:16 AM
Oh no :(
Sending vibes for Endeavor, come on boy, this is easy for you! xXx

youthnovels
13-09-2013, 10:17 AM
Sending all by vibes, if you can't get him through this with C then no-one can. I'm confident he'll be fine xxxxx

ninny40
13-09-2013, 10:22 AM
Poor boy - he's your new bun as well. Sending every healing vibe I can muster for the little chap and hugs to you, Jane. xxx

Fifibutton
13-09-2013, 10:25 AM
Oh Gosh Jane, I have only just seen this. I'm so sorry your wee boy is not well. Sending him millions of vibes for a speedy recovery xxxx

FudgeTort
13-09-2013, 10:27 AM
Any updates yet? Come on endeavour!

Gemmapookie
13-09-2013, 10:28 AM
Any improvement??

Barn Yard Bunnies
13-09-2013, 10:43 AM
:cry: Really hope Endeavour will be alright, sending him millions and millions of vibes. I know you must be frantic.

Rhianna
13-09-2013, 10:53 AM
Adding my vibes for your gorgeous young man.

Get well soon, Endeavour xxxxx

Captain Helen
13-09-2013, 11:17 AM
Sending lots of vibes for Endeavour xx

Angie65
13-09-2013, 11:17 AM
Sending vibes XX

ninny40
13-09-2013, 12:03 PM
Any improvement, Jane? How is he doing?

Jenova
13-09-2013, 12:14 PM
Vibes!
I'm sure he has the best chances of recovery, he's young with a great owner and great vet.

Jack's-Jane
13-09-2013, 12:16 PM
Thank you everyone

Having the day from hell here :cry:

Endeavour is now responding to treatment and his stomach is much less distended. He has poo'd and eaten hay and blackberry leaves.

I am to blame for making him ill, I gave him cabbage last night. I never usually feed my Rabbits cabbage as it can cause so many problems. I should've known better.

I honestly thought he was going to die in the early hours. He was so flat and shocked :cry:

Never again will I feed any of my Rabbits cabbage.

newbabybuns
13-09-2013, 12:17 PM
Oh no :( sending lots of vibes for Endeavour. xxx

cpayne
13-09-2013, 12:26 PM
Oh I've just seen this, how awful for you and Endeavour. Hope he is feeling better again now and going to start being naughty again. xx

RavenMoon
13-09-2013, 12:29 PM
Glad to hear he's accepting some food.

Anyone could have done the same thing, cabbage is a food with a big question mark, and I'm sure there will be others out there that have no problems when feeding it. Now you know he doesn't tolerate it.

Sending more vibes for the little man, and *hugs* for you xxx

hoppetylop
13-09-2013, 12:30 PM
So glad hes beginning to improve.Lots of vibes being sent and gentle noserubs x

Alibunmum
13-09-2013, 12:31 PM
Really glad he is ok now and hope he is his usual mischievous self again soon.

Willowsmum
13-09-2013, 12:33 PM
Thank you everyone

Having the day from hell here :cry:

Endeavour is now responding to treatment and his stomach is much less distended. He has poo'd and eaten hay and blackberry leaves.

I am to blame for making him ill, I gave him cabbage last night. I never usually feed my Rabbits cabbage as it can cause so many problems. I should've known better.

I honestly thought he was going to die in the early hours. He was so flat and shocked :cry:

Never again will I feed any of my Rabbits cabbage.


Oh was that what caused it. :(. Should we not feed rabbits that then? Willow eats loads :oops:


So glad he's better though :thumb:

ninny40
13-09-2013, 12:34 PM
So glad he's picking up, Jane. Don't blame yourself - it's easily done. Sending Endeavour lots of continued healing vibes and nose-rubs. xxx

Fellie
13-09-2013, 12:35 PM
SO pleased he seems to be getting better! There are so many of us who are guilty of feeding something that the bunnies have had a bad reaction to - I always remember last year when Bobo got bloat after we fed him too much water cress...in our ignorance we gave him loads of the stuff because 'he likes it' - and even on the day he got bloat we gave him water cress as that was all he would eat :oops::oops::oops:

All we can do is learn from our mistakes - and try not to feel too guilty for being human and making mistakes!

Loads of vibes for Endeavours continued recovery - he is in the best care possible!

Barn Yard Bunnies
13-09-2013, 12:36 PM
Thank you everyone

Having the day from hell here :cry:

Endeavour is now responding to treatment and his stomach is much less distended. He has poo'd and eaten hay and blackberry leaves.

I am to blame for making him ill, I gave him cabbage last night. I never usually feed my Rabbits cabbage as it can cause so many problems. I should've known better.

I honestly thought he was going to die in the early hours. He was so flat and shocked :cry:

Never again will I feed any of my Rabbits cabbage.

So happy to hear Endeavour is on the mend. :love: Don't blame yourself, many people feed cabbage to bunnies and I expect Endeavour gobbled it down.

esupi
13-09-2013, 12:37 PM
Sooooo glad to see this update.

Jane I think there are so many sources of what's ok for rabbits and what's not and so much conflicting info, and I think a lot of it comes down to the inidiviual. Mine have cabbage every now and then with no problems - I don't think you should be blaming yourself for not realising he would be sensitive to it.

Oompa-Loompa
13-09-2013, 12:42 PM
Some rabbits tolerate cabbage ok and others don't. My Boris got really ill the one time he had it as well so I've never fed it again, even to Bella who's much less sensitive. Don't blame yourself Jane xxx I'm so glad Endeavour is doing better :) Sending vibes!

Sam and Truffs
13-09-2013, 12:51 PM
I'm glad he's doing better - living up to his name! Continued good wishes for him.

Vanessa.B
13-09-2013, 12:56 PM
Such good news that Endeavour is improving :D Don't blame yourself, there was no way for you to know that his tummy is sensitive to cabbage. I hope Endeavour is back to his normal mischievous self very soon xx

Amy104
13-09-2013, 12:58 PM
Glad he's improving, this is not your fault. Many rabbits eat cabbage fine, 9 of my 10 have it regularly and are absolutely fine, its just one of those things.

Tracy
13-09-2013, 01:17 PM
So glad to hear that Endeavour is responding.

Topping up the vibes for him. xx

Silly 'bunny mummy'!!!
13-09-2013, 01:20 PM
Only just read this, I'm so pleased he's feeling better Jane. Sending vibes and thinking of you.
x

FudgeTort
13-09-2013, 01:28 PM
It's not your fault. Glad hrs feeling better.
Keep munching, Endeavour!

panda-monium
13-09-2013, 01:29 PM
Glad he is feeling better

Captain Helen
13-09-2013, 03:04 PM
Glad he's improving xx

Mackers
13-09-2013, 03:34 PM
So glad he's feeling a little better :D.

Tinsel
14-09-2013, 10:47 AM
How is he today? xx

jwr
14-09-2013, 10:55 AM
Thank you everyone

Having the day from hell here :cry:

Endeavour is now responding to treatment and his stomach is much less distended. He has poo'd and eaten hay and blackberry leaves.

I am to blame for making him ill, I gave him cabbage last night. I never usually feed my Rabbits cabbage as it can cause so many problems. I should've known better.

I honestly thought he was going to die in the early hours. He was so flat and shocked :cry:

Never again will I feed any of my Rabbits cabbage.

why did you decide to feed cabbage? fast track way to give a bunny an upset stomach!........

glad he is recovering .....

mushlett
14-09-2013, 10:56 AM
I don't know how I missed this, I'm glad he's feeling better xx

bunny babe
14-09-2013, 10:59 AM
Only just seen this, glad he is doing OK x

xx-snowball-xx
14-09-2013, 11:58 AM
Glad that he is improving :)

chul
14-09-2013, 12:00 PM
why did you decide to feed cabbage? fast track way to give a bunny an upset stomach!........

glad he is recovering .....

Is that really necessary?


Glad he is improving Jane, I know how much he means to you x

Jack's-Jane
14-09-2013, 12:04 PM
why did you decide to feed cabbage? fast track way to give a bunny an upset stomach!........

glad he is recovering .....

Thanks so much :roll:


Thank you to everyone for all the more friendly responses on here. Endeavour is 100% better now :D

Bunsterz
14-09-2013, 12:19 PM
So glad he is improving Jane :) sending more healing vibes :)

Rhianna
14-09-2013, 12:19 PM
I didn't know cabbage was a questionable bunny food. I don't give it often but have done and have been fortunate to not have had any problems. I will be more cautious in future when giving it to a bunny who hasn't had it before.

So glad Endeavour is feeling better, Jane xxxx

Barn Yard Bunnies
14-09-2013, 01:18 PM
Great to hear Endeavour is 100%.

My three get kale every day and never had a problem. I don't know if different types of cabbage are less of a problem than other types.

Jack's-Jane
14-09-2013, 01:34 PM
Great to hear Endeavour is 100%.

My three get kale every day and never had a problem. I don't know if different types of cabbage are less of a problem than other types.

I think it depends on the individual Rabbit to be honest. As some people on here have mentioned they feed cabbage regularly with no problems. I usually feed spring greens, but I know of people who's Rabbits have had a lot of problems after eating it.

Bunsterz
14-09-2013, 01:37 PM
I feed kale, spring green and cabbage regularly with no problem, like you say Jane every rabbit is different which means in no way is this your fault :)

RavenMoon
14-09-2013, 01:39 PM
Glad he's back up an running!
Presumably now trying to get behind a cupboard or something :love:

Barn Yard Bunnies
14-09-2013, 01:48 PM
I think it depends on the individual Rabbit to be honest. As some people on here have mentioned they feed cabbage regularly with no problems. I usually feed spring greens, but I know of people who's Rabbits have had a lot of problems after eating it.

For a few years I wasn't even sure what spring greens were :oops:, I didn't know they were related to the cabbage family. Mr B doesn't do so well on greens and he isn't keen so I don't buy them anymore. Sunshine was a big fan of greens.

I stopped feeding Broccoli after Nancy had an upset stomach from one. Quite strange, I gave a piece to Sunshine and Nancy to share and he threw it away, tossed it across their hutch and wouldn't touch it but she ate it and was unwell the next day. I wonder if he knew something was wrong with it. It looked and smelt alright to me and she had been eating broccoli for a over a year, Sunshine about 3 years.

jwr
14-09-2013, 02:03 PM
Is that really necessary?


Glad he is improving Jane, I know how much he means to you x

oh stop being over sensitive and taking comments in wrong tone as usual , i was asking the question as the op had stated she never normally feeds cabbage ....so why feed it now? especially after also stating that it can cause problems.....school boy error??...

jwr
14-09-2013, 02:06 PM
Thanks so much :roll:


Thank you to everyone for all the more friendly responses on here. Endeavour is 100% better now :D

oh for goodness sake i was not attacking you i was asking why after stating you don't normally feed it .....sorry to disapoint you but it was not an insult...

Jack's-Jane
14-09-2013, 02:36 PM
For a few years I wasn't even sure what spring greens were :oops:, I didn't know they were related to the cabbage family. Mr B doesn't do so well on greens and he isn't keen so I don't buy them anymore. Sunshine was a big fan of greens.

I stopped feeding Broccoli after Nancy had an upset stomach from one. Quite strange, I gave a piece to Sunshine and Nancy to share and he threw it away, tossed it across their hutch and wouldn't touch it but she ate it and was unwell the next day. I wonder if he knew something was wrong with it. It looked and smelt alright to me and she had been eating broccoli for a over a year, Sunshine about 3 years.

The other thing is that some supermarkets rinse their bagged veg in a chlorinated water. So if the veg is not rinsed before it is given to Rabbits it can cause gut problems.

About 2 months ago all of mine suddenly stopped eating spring greens. The greens looked and smelled OK and as usual I washed them before serving them. But not one Rabbit would touch them. This happened several times so I stopped buying them for a while. When I tried again a couple of weeks ago every Rabbit ate all of their portion. No idea what happened there.

Barn Yard Bunnies
14-09-2013, 03:14 PM
The other thing is that some supermarkets rinse their bagged veg in a chlorinated water. So if the veg is not rinsed before it is given to Rabbits it can cause gut problems.

About 2 months ago all of mine suddenly stopped eating spring greens. The greens looked and smelled OK and as usual I washed them before serving them. But not one Rabbit would touch them. This happened several times so I stopped buying them for a while. When I tried again a couple of weeks ago every Rabbit ate all of their portion. No idea what happened there.

Very interesting. I wonder if they can sense it isn't quite right. I noticed spring greens were starting to look a bit sludgy in the bag. I don't see the chopped greens on the shelves anymore or it maybe I don't notice them. The chopped kale looks crisper but I will start to wash them now, especially as I wash all other veg.

I washed my prewashed in the bag salad last night after your thread on recalled salads. However I never buy salads with watercress. There have been a few problems with food poisoning outbreaks linked to watercress in the last few years, I think its something to do with the way it is grown in water.

bunbuns
14-09-2013, 05:27 PM
I've only just seen this :shock:

So glad he's on the mend xxx

bunny babe
14-09-2013, 06:02 PM
Mine get spring greens every day and don't have issues. They prefer the outer green leaves and tend to ignore the lighter ones.

Glad he is 100% better now x

Jack's-Jane
14-09-2013, 06:21 PM
Mine get spring greens every day and don't have issues. They prefer the outer green leaves and tend to ignore the lighter ones.

Glad he is 100% better now x

Mine ignore the paler inner leaves too !! Fussy wotsits :roll: :lol:

Roly Poly
14-09-2013, 06:41 PM
So glad your gorgeous boy is feeling better xxx

mushlett
14-09-2013, 07:00 PM
oh for goodness sake i was not attacking you i was asking why after stating you don't normally feed it .....sorry to disapoint you but it was not an insult...

I personally feel that to make any negative comment to anyone who is distressed by their bunny being unwell is not only unhelpful but also unkind, if you are unfortunate enough to ever be in the position to start a thread like this I sincerely hope you receive only kind and helpful posts.
Jane has been so supportive and kind to many of us on here myself included that we feel she deserves at the very least the same in return.

jwr
14-09-2013, 09:09 PM
I personally feel that to make any negative comment to anyone who is distressed by their bunny being unwell is not only unhelpful but also unkind, if you are unfortunate enough to ever be in the position to start a thread like this I sincerely hope you receive only kind and helpful posts.
Jane has been so supportive and kind to many of us on here myself included that we feel she deserves at the very least the same in return.

emm i think you are over re acting to a simple comment but that probably says more about you than it does about me ....;)

newbabybuns
14-09-2013, 09:25 PM
So happy to see Endeavour is feeling better Jane :) x

chul
14-09-2013, 09:31 PM
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Amy & Amber
14-09-2013, 09:35 PM
Please keep the thread on track.

A bunny is in need of vibes that's all, so stop arguing thank you.

chul
14-09-2013, 09:38 PM
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jwr
14-09-2013, 09:55 PM
Sorry Amy, I was simply sticking up for what is right and got attacked.

excuse me i wasn't in the wrong i merely wondered why the op decided to feed cabbage as they said themselves they never feed it has it causes so many problems so i was interested to find out WHY it was worth the risk ...the op is not wet behind the ears when its comes to rabbits so i was curious but you pop up yet again like a wannabe mod ...the op doesn't need you to speak for her she is more than capable of discussing the subject..
many thanks

Amy & Amber
14-09-2013, 10:08 PM
Excuse me whilst i repeat myself....

Stop arguing!

weeble
14-09-2013, 10:13 PM
Mine ignore the paler inner leaves too !! Fussy wotsits :roll: :lol:

Mine eat the whole lot no fuss but whoever gets the very end stall piece is always extra pleased with themselves and goes off and hides to eat it

Babsie
14-09-2013, 10:32 PM
Mine eat loads of spring greens & cabbage and have never had any problem - but I'm touching wood and hoping that I haven't spoken too soon! (I don't buy the pre-bagged, chopped - they like the great big leaves).

Sorry, went off on a tangent - I'm pleased Endeavour is starting to feel better!

Barn Yard Bunnies
14-09-2013, 10:36 PM
Excuse me whilst i repeat myself....Stop arguing!

That will be the cabbage.

Amy & Amber
14-09-2013, 10:38 PM
That will be the cabbage.

:lol:

Now come on! Parp!

Babsie
14-09-2013, 10:39 PM
That will be the cabbage.

:lol: ..... or the spring greens ..............

William
14-09-2013, 10:50 PM
Poor Endeavour :( This is why I'm always afraid to introduce new foods to my buns. It's awful that they have such sensitive stomachs!

The whole spring greens/cabbage thing really confuses me. I don't think we use the term spring greens here so I don't know exactly what they are, just that they're in the cabbage family and similar to kale supposedly. I've always wondered why spring greens are fed by many bun owners but most other veg in the cabbage family isn't.

Jack's-Jane
15-09-2013, 06:29 AM
why the op decided to feed cabbage as they said themselves they never feed it has it causes so many problems so i was interested to find out WHY it was worth the risk ...the op is not wet behind the ears when its comes to rabbits

Because I was given the dark outer leaves of a cabbage by my elderly neighbour. She often gives me veg for my Rabbits. The leaves were washed and sliced and mixed with the usual Spring Greens. All my Rabbits have had cabbage before, but not very often. Endeavour was fed cabbage whilst he was still with his mother and all through weaning. But clearly this time it did not agree with him and I wont be feeding it to him again. None of my other 17 Rabbits were adversely effected. I hope that answers your question.

Only on RU could a cabbage cause an argument !! :lol:

esupi
15-09-2013, 07:00 AM
For a few years I wasn't even sure what spring greens were :oops:, I didn't know they were related to the cabbage family. Mr B doesn't do so well on greens and he isn't keen so I don't buy them anymore. Sunshine was a big fan of greens.

I stopped feeding Broccoli after Nancy had an upset stomach from one. Quite strange, I gave a piece to Sunshine and Nancy to share and he threw it away, tossed it across their hutch and wouldn't touch it but she ate it and was unwell the next day. I wonder if he knew something was wrong with it. It looked and smelt alright to me and she had been eating broccoli for a over a year, Sunshine about 3 years.

I still don't really know what they are! I had never heard of them 'til I went to live with my uncle for a few months when I was 23. I still don't really know what to do with them now - I buy them for the buns but it wouldn't occur to me to buy the for us!

Gemmapookie
15-09-2013, 08:25 AM
Because I was given the dark outer leaves of a cabbage by my elderly neighbour. She often gives me veg for my Rabbits. The leaves were washed and sliced and mixed with the usual Spring Greens. All my Rabbits have had cabbage before, but not very often. Endeavour was fed cabbage whilst he was still with his mother and all through weaning. But clearly this time it did not agree with him and I wont be feeding it to him again. None of my other 17 Rabbits were adversely effected. I hope that answers your question.

Only on RU could a cabbage cause an argument !! :lol:

:thumb::lol::lol::lol:

I don't feed mine cabbage regularly but occasionally give them a bit as a treat if I have some in, and I wouldn't expect to be questioned on my choices if one of them happened to become poorly :shock::roll: