Yes I mean the naturals carroty treats. I will probably miss them after reading up threads on forum. He gets fenugreek crunchies a couple of times a week and he has a naturals dandelion mix that he tried and was okay with and so far I have tried romaine lettuce and carrot top leaf with him and he has taken to them all well. I do start off slowly and give 3 days to make sure his stomach has agreed with them before he gets anything else and will stick to them for now. I wont be getting romaine lettuce loads or anything and will be careful, just need to find somewhere that sells carrots with the tops now, I got some from Lidl but it was a one off. I like naturals stuff and excel, he has excel food and I am going to be buying herb pack in those too soon. My dwarf hamster stuck to naturals treats, avoided sugar and only had broccoli now and again and he lived almost 3 years (long time for dwarfie.)