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Cerenia injection

bunnykin

bunnykin

Young Bun
I thought my rabbit got metaclopramide today at vets but have just checked my receipt and this is what's listed. I did quick Google and found something about motion sickness in dogs. Am feeling some alarm about this now as I know vet was in hurry when treating my bun and am worrying maybe picked up wrong medicine.
 
I have never heard of it before.

I dont know if it has prokinetic effects (speeds up gastric emptying) in a similar way to metaclopromide :?
 
As far as I know it is used to remove nausea ( as is metochlopromide in humans, I believe) and is only licensed in dogs, I believe.
I don't know if it has any prokinetic properties but the vet may have been muddled when putting it on the bill rather than used it- I would call and find out to clarify.
 
Thank you. I found a post on another rabbit forum somewhere that said:

"Cerenia is an new experimental drug the animal vet people are very excited about over in the UK it is used on Humans and dogs for loads of things like travel sickness and bowel inflammation and all sorts of things."

The other things google returned looked as if they were possibly journals where the rabbits had been the experimental subjects and I didn't want to select them to confirm this.
 
bunnykin said:
Thank you. I found a post on another rabbit forum somewhere that said:

"Cerenia is an new experimental drug the animal vet people are very excited about over in the UK it is used on Humans and dogs for loads of things like travel sickness and bowel inflammation and all sorts of things."

The other things google returned looked as if they were possibly journals where the rabbits had been the experimental subjects and I didn't want to select them to confirm this.
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It certainly isnt licensed for use in Rabbits (this does not necessarily mean it is 'unsafe' ) But your Vet is legally obliged to inform you about it and explain why he/she is using it. In most cases the client is required to sign a disclaimer

http://www.bsava.com/Advice/BSAVAGu...gcascadeandofflabeluse/tabid/360/Default.aspx
 
Jack's-Jane said:
It certainly isnt licensed for use in Rabbits (this does not necessarily mean it is 'unsafe' ) But your Vet is legally obliged to inform you about it and explain why he/she is using it. In most cases the client is required to sign a disclaimer

http://www.bsava.com/Advice/BSAVAGu...gcascadeandofflabeluse/tabid/360/Default.aspx
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Thanks again. I only have what that post in another forum said (in May 2011) about it being experimental. My little guy seems his usual self this morning and has been normal in the tray and was just tucking into his brekky. I do think he probably does have sludge though (as you suggested might be possible in another post), so it's back to the vets for us.
 
I asked my vet about this today. Cerenia is not a prokinetic. It is for anti vomiting but works in the brain to stop vomiting. Metaclop works in rabbits but making the gut move, cernia works by dropping vomiting but it does not make the guts move. rabbits cannot (unless very very very very ill) vomit So cerenia would have no effect in rabbits.
 
MichG said:
I asked my vet about this today. Cerenia is not a prokinetic. It is for anti vomiting but works in the brain to stop vomiting. Metaclop works in rabbits but making the gut move, cernia works by dropping vomiting but it does not make the guts move. rabbits cannot (unless very very very very ill) vomit So cerenia would have no effect in rabbits.
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Thank you for asking your vet. My little boy has seemed fine today - happy, cheeky, eating, pooping and peeing - so I didn't take him back to the vet in the end. I now doubt that cerenia has played any part in that. Am so disappointed with my vets.
 
bunnykin said:
Thank you for asking your vet. My little boy has seemed fine today - happy, cheeky, eating, pooping and peeing - so I didn't take him back to the vet in the end. I now doubt that cerenia has played any part in that. Am so disappointed with my vets.
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I do think it is very important to raise your concerns about this with the Vet.
 
MichG said:
I asked my vet about this today. Cerenia is not a prokinetic. It is for anti vomiting but works in the brain to stop vomiting. Metaclop works in rabbits but making the gut move, cernia works by dropping vomiting but it does not make the guts move. rabbits cannot (unless very very very very ill) vomit So cerenia would have no effect in rabbits.
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Even though rabbits can't vomit, might its action on the brain reduce the nausea that is often associated with vomiting? Or maybe it's one of those things that seems to help even though they don't yet know the exact mechanism? I wouldn't necessarily rule it out as a useful drug (and it does sound as if it's been extensively tested on rabbits so it seems likely it's not dangerous to give them), although obviously it is definitely worth the OP discussing any concerns with the vet.
 
Santa said:
Even though rabbits can't vomit, might its action on the brain reduce the nausea that is often associated with vomiting? Or maybe it's one of those things that seems to help even though they don't yet know the exact mechanism? I wouldn't necessarily rule it out as a useful drug (and it does sound as if it's been extensively tested on rabbits so it seems likely it's not dangerous to give them), although obviously it is definitely worth the OP discussing any concerns with the vet.
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Possibly, although it would have absolutely no prokinetic effects on making the gut move again. The primary problem in "stasis" is that the gut is static and not moving, the prokinetic actions of metaclopramide, Zantac and Cisapride (and I am sure there are others...) are what kick start the gut into moving again. It may reduce nausea if the rabbit was feeling nauseus (are they capable of nausea??) but would not help the gut to move. My vet is an exotic specialist and had never heard of it being used, but thats not to say that it hasn't. She has recently taken her certificate exam though so is pretty up to date with things.

I would definitely speak to the vet about it. It would be interesting to hear what he/she says about it. If it is indeed a useful drug for bunnies then it would be good to know, also where they got the info from so I can point my vet in the direction so she can have a read too. :D
 
MichG said:
Possibly, although it would have absolutely no prokinetic effects on making the gut move again. The primary problem in "stasis" is that the gut is static and not moving, the prokinetic actions of metaclopramide, Zantac and Cisapride (and I am sure there are others...) are what kick start the gut into moving again. It may reduce nausea if the rabbit was feeling nauseus (are they capable of nausea??) but would not help the gut to move. My vet is an exotic specialist and had never heard of it being used, but thats not to say that it hasn't. She has recently taken her certificate exam though so is pretty up to date with things.

I would definitely speak to the vet about it. It would be interesting to hear what he/she says about it. If it is indeed a useful drug for bunnies then it would be good to know, also where they got the info from so I can point my vet in the direction so she can have a read too. :D
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I will be asking when I go back to the vets.
 
Jack's-Jane said:
I have never heard of it before.

I dont know if it has prokinetic effects (speeds up gastric emptying) in a similar way to metaclopromide :?
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Also curious about this... According to most sites I've seen the only effect mentioned is in the brain:

http://www.veterinaryplace.com/dog-medicine/cerenia-for-dogs/

That link is about Cerenia for dogs but I'm sure the drug has the same effect in rabbits? In which case it would not be very useful. What do you all think?
 
We recently lost one of our dogs to pancreatitis, however cerenia was used because it is a very good pain relief for conditions like that, so it may have been used in that context, as a pain med. Certainly it helped Kate with her pain, she was just too old to overcome it.
Still, you need to ask your vet why it was used, it's an expensive drug and to use it for no reason is questionable.
 
cerenia is an anti-nausea medication used for dogs and i think cats aswell... however it has been shown to work very well for rabbit and guinea pigs in relation to bladder issues and some others, although i only know of it in terms of bladder treatment because mollie piggy is on it currently. she has it orally. it works as an anti-inflammatory for specifically the bladder walls, but covers in a different way to metacam, so giving both provides two lots of cover :)
 
Hi this is an old post, but I thought others googling it could use the information. If your rabbit has stasis and belly pain cerenia is an excellent drug to relieve gut pain in rabbits which then allows them to become more mobile and helps to get things moving. It is very safe and very helpful to use in rabbits. Good on your vet!
 
Hi Just an exotic vet weighing in, cerenia is a very excellent drug to treat GI pain in rabbits, and is now used frequently to reduce GI pain. Her vet was just ahead of the curve at the time. Good for him/her. It sounds to me like bunnykin was in very excellent hands, and PS we use drugs all the time that are not approved for use in exotic species....if we didn't we would have not tools to use, at all!
 
EBMiquel said:
Hi Just an exotic vet weighing in, cerenia is a very excellent drug to treat GI pain in rabbits, and is now used frequently to reduce GI pain. Her vet was just ahead of the curve at the time. Good for him/her. It sounds to me like bunnykin was in very excellent hands, and PS we use drugs all the time that are not approved for use in exotic species....if we didn't we would have not tools to use, at all!
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Good to know, thank you.
 
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