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megansmummy
24-10-2012, 08:50 PM
http://www.deemillen.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=164

18 for 15kg with 10% fibre :? is there something amazing hidden in there that im missing??

fruitandnutcake
24-10-2012, 09:03 PM
It's listed as a complementary feed as opposed to a complete feed, so I would guess it is given as a treat. Price doesn't seem too bad to me, when a 10KG bag of SS cost me about 19. Not sure what the point is of giving a complementary feed unless it has added vitamins etc, that are not in a complete food.

Kavanne
24-10-2012, 09:14 PM
High fibre + reasonable price = Allen and Page (in my own humble opinion only!!!!)

megansmummy
24-10-2012, 09:15 PM
High fibre + reasonable price = Allen and Page (in my own humble opinion only!!!!)

I just found a supplier 2 mins from my house :thumb:

fruitandnutcake
24-10-2012, 09:18 PM
Allen & Page looks good, and well priced...I might give them a try!

Kavanne
24-10-2012, 09:20 PM
I just found a supplier 2 mins from my house :thumb:

Nice one! I have a 20 min drive to get mine so sometimes if I'm feeling lazy i will order online, if you don't need delivery it is such a bargain

BattleKat
24-10-2012, 09:24 PM
It's listed as a complementary feed as opposed to a complete feed, so I would guess it is given as a treat. Price doesn't seem too bad to me, when a 10KG bag of SS cost me about 19. Not sure what the point is of giving a complementary feed unless it has added vitamins etc, that are not in a complete food.
All rabbit feed should be described as complimentary as they need hay and/or grass as part of their diet. :wave:
I didn't mean that like you didn't know they need hay, just saying why it's complimentary. Wasn't sure if it might come across wrong :oops:

nessar
24-10-2012, 09:28 PM
Dont you think the protein level on A&P is a bit low, at 12%? Fibre is good at 23%, less than SS Adult though. But then breeder and grower is 15.5% protein, so thats a bit high and is only 18% fibre which I think is lower than I'd like.

Kavanne
24-10-2012, 09:31 PM
Dont you think the protein level on A&P is a bit low, at 12%? Fibre is good at 23%, less than SS Adult though. But then breeder and grower is 15.5% protein, so thats a bit high and is only 18% fibre which I think is lower than I'd like.

I feed breeder grower to my frenchies. :)

Alibunmum
24-10-2012, 09:53 PM
My lot lost weight on A&P. Some do fine but it is something to keep an eye on.

nessar
24-10-2012, 09:56 PM
My lot lost weight on A&P. Some do fine but it is something to keep an eye on.

I imagine it was probably due to the low protein - SS has 14%, and Excel 13% - A&P is only 12%.

Santa
24-10-2012, 10:17 PM
My lot lost weight on A&P. Some do fine but it is something to keep an eye on.

Mine too - I swapped off it again because I found they all lost condition, even when accompanied with other forage/veg. I don't know exactly what it is about its nutritional balance that didn't suit, but it is definitely something to watch out for as I've heard and seen it many times with A&P, in the same way that I hear and see about excess caecatrophs many times with Excel. Every bun is different and thrives on a slightly different diet, but there do definitely seem to be some trends which are more common with some foods than others, and this does seem to be one of them.

Geoff's people
24-10-2012, 11:06 PM
Yup same here, It's changed since I used to use it years ago:( I used to swear by it, but now they are losing condition.
I think I am going to try the old fashioned way of a mix of oats, barley and wheat all rolled as I have the facilities to mix my own and roll it. I only feed mine a small amount to supplement their forage and at least this way I will know EXACTLY what they are eating;)

nessar
25-10-2012, 07:05 AM
Yup same here, It's changed since I used to use it years ago:( I used to swear by it, but now they are losing condition.
I think I am going to try the old fashioned way of a mix of oats, barley and wheat all rolled as I have the facilities to mix my own and roll it. I only feed mine a small amount to supplement their forage and at least this way I will know EXACTLY what they are eating;)

You'd have to add a vitamin and mineral supplement as well, I think, although I know you feed a lot of forage.

tonibun
25-10-2012, 07:17 AM
http://www.deemillen.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=164

18 for 15kg with 10% fibre :? is there something amazing hidden in there that im missing??

I think they are ripping unsuspecting people off!

janice
25-10-2012, 10:26 AM
http://www.deemillen.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=164

18 for 15kg with 10% fibre :? is there something amazing hidden in there that im missing??

Looking at one of the other feeds which they also say they feed it looks like it is a mix and with such a low fibre content I would avoid. Another reason I would avoid is that they are a breeder :cry:

megansmummy
25-10-2012, 10:58 AM
Looking at one of the other feeds which they also say they feed it looks like it is a mix and with such a low fibre content I would avoid. Another reason I would avoid is that they are a breeder :cry:

I bought from there once and wont ever again as her customer service was shocking!! I just wanted some odeas for toys :)