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Jaysmonkey
15-10-2012, 08:55 AM
I'd like to post a WARNING for any FURMINATOR users.

On Saturday I was grooming Gracie as normal, not hard and not with a lot of pressure. The furminator ripped off a 6cm by 5cm chunk of skin and fur. This was on the 'knee' of the hind leg. Gracie was immediately taken to the vets and had surgery. It turns out she has a minor skin infection, hence the skin tearing straight off. There were no signs but for the effects of the furminator. Gracie' wound has started to open up again, the stitching proved difficult as the skin disintegrated when stretched. She now has a body stocking and is going to the vets daily for a dressing change. She has to be confined to her 'base cage' for 14 days at least. She on metacam, baytril and zantac and is thankfully nomming and pooing, granted not as much as usual.

This is a warning to those that use furminators. Apparently rabbits have dormant skin infections, unfortunately for Gracie a routine groom turned into disaster :(.

My furminator is now in the bin.

Because of the position of the wound is has increased in size. :(

This was fur, skin and blood :(

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/483053_280981865347411_1998283705_n.jpg
You can just see where the wound is here, though it's covered.
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http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s252/Jaysmonkey/decorations/IMG1248.jpg
Demanding headrubs with her new snugglesafe cover:(
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s252/Jaysmonkey/decorations/IMG1249.jpg

I'm so sorry Gracie :cry:

dutchbunny
15-10-2012, 08:59 AM
:shock:
OMG! That just had me in shivers, the whole idea. I don't have one myself and I will make sure not to get one either! hope Gracie gets well soon

Jaysmonkey
15-10-2012, 09:07 AM
It was awful :( We got her to the vets at 4.30pm but she couldn't come home the same night due to GA and such.

I am absolutely gutted. She's an ex lab rabbit and already been through so much in her short life (she'll be 3 in November) and I'd never ever want to cause her hurt or trauma :cry:. Thankfully she's a strong bunny and hasn't let this come between her and her appetite.

Tonight we'll see if it's opened up again, if it has she either has to have surgery again or we have to treat it as an open wound :cry: xx

Gem
15-10-2012, 09:09 AM
Bless her little paws, I'm sure she knows you didn't do it deliberately (Not that you would of course!)

She's gorgeous! :love: Wishing her a speedy recovery :love:

tonibun
15-10-2012, 09:14 AM
Hope Gracie makes a full recovery.

LittleEskimo
15-10-2012, 09:14 AM
Oh gosh :( Hope she heals up nice and soon. Poor thing
Don't feel like you are to blame, you wont have known this would have happened from a brush of all things x

Jaysmonkey
15-10-2012, 09:16 AM
Thank you guys, I'll update on how the wound is this evening. She's an absolutely angel, she really doesn't deserve this :cry:

Before this I was happy with the furminator and used it with no issues for 2 years, I'm just so angry at myself and wish I hadn't groomed her :(

I will only every use a soft bristle baby brush and wet hands from now on. x

Bluesmum
15-10-2012, 09:19 AM
Oh goodness! What a terrible accident :(

I used to use one on blue when he was moulting...his fur was so thick he would get matts underneath the top layer of fur if you know what I mean and nothing else would get them out.

I won't be using one on Maurice though after this.

thank you for letting us know and I hope she recovers well.

youthnovels
15-10-2012, 09:30 AM
I hope the wound starts to heal. Poor thing. I'll be putting my furminator in the bin. Could it be worth while contacting the company?

Aly&Poppy<3
15-10-2012, 09:32 AM
Poor girlie :( I hope it starts to heal soon xx Her cage looks very comfortable for her xxx

Jaysmonkey
15-10-2012, 09:34 AM
I hope the wound starts to heal. Poor thing. I'll be putting my furminator in the bin. Could it be worth while contacting the company?

I'm looking to do that, my mum has said she'll help me with contacting them (she's awesome at complaint letters).

I still can't believe this has happened, it wasn't a little bit of skin either, it was a clump :( :cry:

Thank you everyone.

I had to warn you, of course if it weren't for this incident I'd still be using one, but it's opened my eyes and I will not take the chance ever again xx

William
15-10-2012, 09:45 AM
Wow, I never would have guessed that could happen :shock: sounds like it was traumatic for the both of you :(
I've never used a furminator before and don't think I'll be using one for buns now!

Instead of throwing them away i'd give them to dog/cat owners. Sorry I just hate wasting things :oops:

sparklefairy
15-10-2012, 09:53 AM
:cry::cry::cry: poor baby

you've made me think twice about using mine now. I never thought they could do that to a bun

GrahamL
15-10-2012, 09:56 AM
I'm so so sorry this happened Stef :cry: *Hugs* - this was NOT your fault, i know thats difficult to believe, but its the truth.

This is why i only use a damp hand to groom my bunnies and advocate that fact.

I'm sending all the vibes in the world for Gracie to heal up quickly.

Jaysmonkey
15-10-2012, 10:11 AM
Thank you everyone, I am devastated. I just don't want anyone else's bunnies to have this happen to them. :( xx

ripminnie
15-10-2012, 10:35 AM
Oh my god that's awful :cry: sending tons of healing vibes for poor Gracie xxx

Captain Helen
15-10-2012, 11:17 AM
Poor girl :cry: Sending lots of vibes for Gracie and hugs for you xx

Alison Marie
15-10-2012, 11:19 AM
Aww poor Gracie :( Don't be too hard on yourself about it. I'd write a complaint to the manufacturer and tell them to explicitly state that they shouldn't be used on rabbits. :(

thumps_
15-10-2012, 11:30 AM
Please don't blame yourself Jays'monkey. They've been recommended across the board even by vets. See Gracie doesn't blame you! NOT YOUR FAULT.
Thank you for having the courage to post.

I sincerely hope Gracie makes a rapid & uneventful recovery.

Neither of mine would tolerate a furminator despite heavy moulting.
I very gently take out the clumps between the sides of my index & mid fingers, use a soft baby brush, & they get lots of stroking with damp hands.

helen01
15-10-2012, 12:07 PM
Blimey that's awful, poor Gracie and poor you :shock: You really weren't to know though and it was an accident. I've been looking at these for the cats but will not be buying one now at all. I hope that you get some good news from the vets tonight:thumb:

cpayne
15-10-2012, 12:08 PM
Thank you so much for posting about this. On another thread these were recommended and I was going to look into this for Doughnut.

I'll stick to the baby brush now and wet hands.

Hope she's OK and you get over your guilt as you were doing what you think was best for her, to help her with her moult.

FudgeTort
15-10-2012, 12:29 PM
So sorry this happened. I hope she heals quickly now poor girl.

So is this something that could commonly happen in rabbits or is it because she had the skin infection?

Jaysmonkey
15-10-2012, 01:28 PM
Thanks guys, that's the thing. There were no signs of skin infection...until this happened. No illness of any other kinds and Gracie is certainly not overweight.

According to the vet the 'bacteria' causing the infection lie dormant and are carried by most bunnies.

If I had used a soft brush or my hands this wouldn't have happened. I'll try get pictures of the actual damage tonight, although it might not be for the squeamish. The 'flesh' that came off is absolutely devastating.

I cannot believe this has happened to her :(.

I know the furminator pulls the dead hair but you have to be incredibly gentle, I guess it was too much on her skin, but the steel comb won't have helped :(:cry:

Tuckerbunnies
15-10-2012, 01:33 PM
Oh Bless her :(

We bought a Furminator to try and used it once and binned it we thought they were awful.

Sending Vibes for poor Gracie xxx

xlaurax
15-10-2012, 01:43 PM
Thanks for the warning! Put me right off getting one of those!

Sending many vibes for your little girly, she's lovely :love:

Elena
15-10-2012, 02:27 PM
Ouch! Poor thing :( I guess it could've happened with any slicker brush or comb. I don't actually use my furminator anymore because I found a comb better but will go extra gentle from now on.

happysaz133
15-10-2012, 02:31 PM
That is sad :( maybe write to Furminator? Good to let others know. Personally I love mine, and will still use it, but its a good thing to be away of.

Jack's-Jane
15-10-2012, 02:33 PM
Oh Bless her :(

We bought a Furminator to try and used it once and binned it we thought they were awful.

Sending Vibes for poor Gracie xxx

Me too.

Poor Gracie, I hope she will heal without the need for grafts etc :(

Snowberry
15-10-2012, 03:03 PM
I use a furminator on Mr B because with his cashmere fur nothing else helps. However even that isnt great and he ends up having all his fur cut off instead!

one of the family
15-10-2012, 03:28 PM
Thanks for alerting us to this. I hope poor Gracie makes a fast and full recovery.

We use the furminator on all our ten buns, five cats and dog although I have worried about how it seems to take too much 'under hair' away at times so I must say I prefer damp hands over the fur more often than not.

Interesting to note about skin conditions in buns. That's something else I will ask my vet about on our next visit. The list grows.....

megansmummy
15-10-2012, 03:33 PM
Oh my gosh...poor Gracie and poor you :(

Geoff's people
15-10-2012, 03:57 PM
One furminator now in the bin, thank you for the warning and hugs to you:love::love:

madcatwoman
15-10-2012, 04:13 PM
I have a furminator I only use it on the cats and then not often because I noticed bald patches when I had done, didnt know if I had got a bit carried away when brushing cos the cats like it.:oops:

The best thing I have found for all my animals is rubber gloves, one wet, one dry, just continually stroke both hands down the pet and the fluff that comes off is amazing. To the point that its better done outside.

bunny babe
15-10-2012, 06:29 PM
Aw, I hope she recovers quickly.

I got a furminator, didn't like it and gave it away to someone with a dog. It is good to alert others who are using them as to what could happen.

mini lop1
15-10-2012, 06:38 PM
hope she recovers soon, we have one a small animal one only use it every now and then on mabel, but wont go near sox with it due to his size

Lea-Anne
15-10-2012, 06:43 PM
We use these on cats at work. I don't like them.

Hope Gracie makes a full recovery. Please don't be too hard on yourself Stef, you're a fab mum xx

Bunnybabies
15-10-2012, 06:59 PM
That sounds so traumatic for you both. Mine won't let me come near them with the furminator and I won't be trying in future. Hope she gets well soon

KarenM
15-10-2012, 07:01 PM
Poor Gracie; I hope she feels better soon. :love:

I've got a furminator for our cat and tried it on the bunnies & didn't like the way it seemed to drag their fur too much so I only used it the once but I would have had no idea of the sort of damage it could cause.

susieb1
15-10-2012, 07:07 PM
Oh my goodness - poor Gracie and poor you. This could have happened to anyone who uses one, DO NOT BLAME YOURSELF. Huge vibes to Gracie and hugs for you.

Alvins mummy
15-10-2012, 07:17 PM
Oh my, I really hope Gracie gets better soon. I was going to get one of these but I wont now.

Sending get well vibes and nose rubs from Alvin and Roxy. xx

Fifibutton
15-10-2012, 07:45 PM
I agree with everyone else it wasn't your fault. Rabbit skin is so thin and does not have much elasticity. Many years ago a vet told me that it was too easy to tear the skin even by plucking fur moults out. SO I have always been very careful. I never liked the look of the furminator either but I can recommend soft baby brushes (human babies) and rubber toothed combs.

I'm sending mega vibes for beautiful Gracie and don't be too hard on yourself Stef, you did all the right things including warning other bunny owners. I too would contact the company and suggest rubber tips as a design modification.

Jaysmonkey
16-10-2012, 08:24 AM
Hello,

So the wound has opened up again, all the tissue around the wound is dying so the wound itself will get bigger. The vet has done a light dressing and she's got her body stocking on again, she's back at the vets again tonight.

The vet isn't sure how this will go yet, but depending on skin regrowth and skin elasticity will determine whether surgery will happen again, otherwise it's open wound treatment.

So Here's the picture, please be warned you may find this distressing. This is taken towards her back end, you can see her tail (Gracie is a NZW if that helps you gain perspective of size of injury) This was the result of a furmintor.
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s252/Jaysmonkey/decorations/IMG1260.jpg

Jaysmonkey
16-10-2012, 08:55 AM
Should say the 'marking that looks like a grid' is from her gauze dressing which had just been removed. This photo was taken at the vets prior to the new dressing being applied. :cry:

*lily*
16-10-2012, 09:10 AM
:(

Hope she makes a full recovery very soon xxx

Jaysmonkey
16-10-2012, 09:30 AM
Thank you Kate :(

The vet did a poor attempt at redressing her last night and I actually had to redo it this morning since she's managed to pull away abit of the gauze just at the side of the wound :(

Currently looking into manuka honey (I'm vegan I know, but Gracie comes first here)

Because of the extent of the wound it can take 3 weeks minimum providing all goes to plan and no surgery is required, although there may always be cosmetic damage - lack of fur regrowth, but I that doesn't matter, I just want Gracie healthy and out of pain :(

sparklefairy
16-10-2012, 10:05 AM
OH my goodness :shock: bless her little heart :cry::cry::cry: and hugs to youXxx that looks awful :cry:

Vanessa.B
16-10-2012, 10:05 AM
I too bought a furminator but decided that it felt too heavy and harsh to use on the buns. I wouldn't want to use it on our cat either.

I am so sorry this has happened to Gracie. Huge hugs to you and masses of vibes for Gracie xxx

Jaysmonkey
16-10-2012, 11:14 AM
thank you everyone, vets is at 7.10pm tonight and then depending how its looking we'll either leave it undressed or redress.

Gracie coping exceptionally well and is such a good girl about everything. It makes me wonder what they did to her in the lab to make her so receptive :cry:

Tinsel
16-10-2012, 11:24 AM
Thank you Kate :(

The vet did a poor attempt at redressing her last night and I actually had to redo it this morning since she's managed to pull away abit of the gauze just at the side of the wound :(

Currently looking into manuka honey (I'm vegan I know, but Gracie comes first here)

Because of the extent of the wound it can take 3 weeks minimum providing all goes to plan and no surgery is required, although there may always be cosmetic damage - lack of fur regrowth, but I that doesn't matter, I just want Gracie healthy and out of pain :(


This has amazing curative abilities - can't recommend it enough. It needs to be a high factor eg 25. Definitely go for it - you will be amazed at how fast it will heal. My vet had Toadstool pencilled in to be PTS and said he couldn't believe his eyes two days later after the honey treatment :wave:

Geoff's people
16-10-2012, 11:24 AM
Hypercal ointment is amazing hun. If you cannot find it get some hypericum ointment and some calendula ointment and mix the 2 together. Never use it on a puncture wound though as it will heal it too fast;)

Jaysmonkey
16-10-2012, 11:29 AM
Thank you, I'm going into the city centre on my lunch break I'll have to find some. xxx

Mrs. Bunnykins
16-10-2012, 11:30 AM
I really hope that Gracie's wounds start to heal soon.

I'm sure with your tender loving care she will be as right as rain within no time.

Best of luck. xxxxx

Jack's-Jane
16-10-2012, 11:30 AM
Is the Vet using a dressing such as granuflex ? It can help with wound healing as can Medihoney dressings

http://www.dressings.org/Dressings/granuflex.html

http://www.wounds-uk.com/made-easy/medihoney-dressings-made-easy---products-for-practice

FudgeTort
16-10-2012, 11:33 AM
Oh that's an awful thought about what was done to her in the lab.
Glad she's still doing ok though. Let us know how she gets on x

Jaysmonkey
16-10-2012, 11:37 AM
Is the Vet using a dressing such as granuflex ? It can help with wound healing as can Medihoney dressings

http://www.dressings.org/Dressings/granuflex.html

http://www.wounds-uk.com/made-easy/medihoney-dressings-made-easy---products-for-practice

Reading the description I would say I believe she is using granuflex, however I can not be certain of that.

I miss my old vets in Manchester (Ashleigh), my current vet are doing what they can and do have a specialist, but I cannot say I'm too happy with them at the moment. Mind you they also brought Gracie through Bloat..

Tonight I'm seeing a director of the vets (he's also a vet) and I'll talk things over with him. I think after Gracies treatment is complete though I will be looking for another vet, as both me and Jay are not happy.

happysaz133
16-10-2012, 11:47 AM
It looks so painful, poor girly :( sending mega vibes.

Liz47
16-10-2012, 11:51 AM
Oh my :( I'm so sorry this happened, can only echo what others have said, it's deffinitately not your fault and sending lots of get well vibes to Gracie and *hugs* to you xxxxx

Jaysmonkey
16-10-2012, 12:12 PM
Thank you everyone. If she does have to have an open undressed wound then I'll have to remove her hay filled litter tray (she's on vetbed, but has litter tray with hay available, as well as hay rack/ball, is there anything I can do to compensate for lack of litter tray?:?

Also for a GA, stitches and over night hospitalisation (no choice as was late op, but not out of hours) and meds how much would you expect to pay? I'm simply curious, we've had to pay 150 over what was quoted. We'll pay anything for Gracie, but I have a feeling my vets are over charging.

Jaysmonkey
16-10-2012, 01:28 PM
Ok a manuka honey question, how do you apply it? and how much? I have some 25 - just been to Holland and barrett

Janey
16-10-2012, 01:28 PM
Oh dear, what an unfortunate thing to happen, what a shock for you and Gracie, it is scary how when we are trying to be the best owners possible things can go wrong.

How about shredded newspaper for a litter tray or just at one end of the cage so it is a slightly seperate area? Mine only have shredded newspaper in their trays, I chaneg it daily.

I hope she starts to heal very soon.

Jaysmonkey
16-10-2012, 01:29 PM
Oh dear, what an unfortunate thing to happen, what a shock for you and Gracie, it is scary how when we are trying to be the best owners possible things can go wrong.

How about shredded newspaper for a litter tray or just at one end of the cage so it is a slightly seperate area? Mine only have shredded newspaper in their trays, I chaneg it daily.

I hope she starts to heal very soon.

Thank you :( I was contemplating newspaper, I will query it with the vets tonight xx

ripminnie
16-10-2012, 01:39 PM
Just seen your pic, poor poor Gracie :cry: the furminator should be withdrawn from sale in my opinion, that is horrific :( tons more vibes for her and hugs for you xxx

loppy ears
16-10-2012, 01:57 PM
Furminator has a list of dog breeds which the brush should not be used on and lots of other warnings or my dog one did when I brought it some years ago.

Jaysmonkey
16-10-2012, 02:05 PM
Furminator has a list of dog breeds which the brush should not be used on and lots of other warnings or my dog one did when I brought it some years ago.

It was the small animal version, from what I remember all those years ago it didn't say not to use it on any particular breed of bunny :( Looking at the wound you assume I hacked at her:cry::cry:, I was simply grooming gently and as normal. Anywho I cannot hate myself about this anymore than I already do, if I had known anything such as this could have happened, I would never have even considered this brush, let alone use one:cry: I wouldn't wish any harm on any of my babies, I'd sooner have any harm come to me :(

I've shown my mum the wound and also shown her the flesh that came off, she's medically trained from back when she was younger; she says the flesh that came off, looks odd and almost like a skin graft itself. My mum questioned whether the skin could have been damaged in previous laboratory days. But my mum is not a vet, so this is simply a theory. :(

Bah, I just wish I'd never gone to groom her :cry:

*lily*
16-10-2012, 02:32 PM
Stef, it has happened, you didn't ever mean to hurt her, look now to the future rather than to what has gone before.

Good luck at the vets tonight xxx

Captain Helen
16-10-2012, 02:38 PM
Oh that looks sore :cry: Please don't blame yourself. I have a Furminator, it helps with my long haired cat's tangles, but I won't use it on the buns now. I've only used it on the long bits of the lionheads' manes before. Hope the honey helps. Sending lots more vibes for Gracie xx

loppy ears
16-10-2012, 02:39 PM
It was the small animal version, from what I remember all those years ago it didn't say not to use it on any particular breed of bunny :( Looking at the wound you assume I hacked at her:cry::cry:, I was simply grooming gently and as normal. Anywho I cannot hate myself about this anymore than I already do, if I had known anything such as this could have happened, I would never have even considered this brush, let alone use one:cry: I wouldn't wish any harm on any of my babies, I'd sooner have any harm come to me :(

I've shown my mum the wound and also shown her the flesh that came off, she's medically trained from back when she was younger; she says the flesh that came off, looks odd and almost like a skin graft itself. My mum questioned whether the skin could have been damaged in previous laboratory days. But my mum is not a vet, so this is simply a theory. :(

Bah, I just wish I'd never gone to groom her :cry:

I never assumed anything :? If you don't groom then they are at risk of swallowing hair and this can cause a blockage so you had to groom her.

I was just saying that if they believe it shouldn't be used on some breeds of dogs I am wondering why they think it is ok for rabbits who have delicate skin, they should have put warnings on like they do for the dog ones. Send them a letter and some photos.

I brought one for my dogs and one of my dogs I wouldn't use it on as it pulls the hair rather than gliding though like it does on the other dog. For my dog with short hair I prefer to use a zoom groom and my long haired dog has a special brush and comb, the comb has teeth with rotate to avoid any fur pulling.

A comb with rotating teeth might be better for rabbits as it doesn't pull at the fur

Jaysmonkey
16-10-2012, 02:42 PM
I never assumed anything :? If you don't groom then they are at risk of swallowing hair and this can cause a blockage so you had to groom her.

I was just saying that if they believe it shouldn't be used on some breeds of dogs I am wondering why they think it is ok for rabbits who have delicate skin, they should have put warnings on like they do for the dog ones. Send them a letter and some photos.

I brought one for my dogs and one of my dogs I wouldn't use it on as it pulls the hair rather than gliding though like it does on the other dog. For my dog with short hair I prefer to use a zoom groom and my long haired dog has a special brush and comb, the comb has teeth with rotate to avoid any fur pulling.

A comb with rotating teeth might be better for rabbits as it doesn't pull at the fur

Oh the 'you assume' wasn't directed at you it meant to say 'you'd ( you would). I'm sorry if it came across that way :oops:

I do agree there should be a warning, but now I believe a furminator isn't suitable. I will be using a baby bristle brush and wet rub technique from now on x

helen01
16-10-2012, 02:47 PM
Please dont blame yourself, if you had known you would never have used it:wave: I think furminator need to see those pics, I have just seen the wound and its horrible:shock: I hope they can do something for her and it does heal in time:thumb:

loppy ears
16-10-2012, 03:04 PM
Oh the 'you assume' wasn't directed at you it meant to say 'you'd ( you would). I'm sorry if it came across that way :oops:

I do agree there should be a warning, but now I believe a furminator isn't suitable. I will be using a baby bristle brush and wet rub technique from now on x

It seems really unfair that they sell products which can be harmful but sadly the pet industry do sell products for all kinds of animals which have caused serious injury or death eg raw hide dog chews.

Furries
16-10-2012, 03:14 PM
I've shown my mum the wound and also shown her the flesh that came off, she's medically trained from back when she was younger; she says the flesh that came off, looks odd and almost like a skin graft itself. My mum questioned whether the skin could have been damaged in previous laboratory days. But my mum is not a vet, so this is simply a theory. :(



That is highly likely, considering they're used in dermatology tests.

There's no way you could have known this would happen.

natsusakura
16-10-2012, 03:14 PM
I think the manuka goes directly on the wound but I think jacks Jane may know better?
I used manuka for baileys abcess.
Poor baby hope she gets better soon xxxx

Furries
16-10-2012, 03:19 PM
I have an aloe vera plant and have used the inner leaf gel on a nasty bed sore my convalescing Greyhound had. There was a huge improvement in just one day. It may be worth considering, but I'd advise getting a plant, as I have found the shop-bought aloe vera gel to be useless. We bought our plant from a garden centre.

I hope your bunny makes a full recovery. Remember that it's not your fault.

Jaysmonkey
16-10-2012, 03:50 PM
Thank you guys. I'll be discussing everything suggested with the vet tonight. The manuka honey is a definite as I spoke to them about at last nights redressing appointment. I'm just hoping when I get home Gracie hasn't managed to get to the wound, the vet last night really should have done a better job of redressing, I did my best this morning to prevent her from getting to it, so here's hoping.

I've had a look at the furminator website - I see they have facebook and twitter, but the only way to contact them otherwise is by phone (they are in Amercia - I believe), I can't see a customer service section/email. I'll discuss everything with Jay and then we'll decide what to do with regards to our complaint.

Thank you xx

Kermit
16-10-2012, 04:15 PM
Just clean the wound with something then apply the Manuka direct. If she won't get to it then I would try to leave it uncovered for a while, distract her for a bit if you need to. Then it should have started to work it's magic.

I have used it loads and it has worked wonders!

Jaysmonkey
16-10-2012, 04:17 PM
Just clean the wound with something then apply the Manuka direct. If she won't get to it then I would try to leave it uncovered for a while, distract her for a bit if you need to. Then it should have started to work it's magic.

I have used it loads and it has worked wonders!

Thank you Kermit. The reviews are so positive about manuka honey, I'm so hopeful. I really appreciate all the advice, help and support, so thank you everyone xx :)

dizzyg
16-10-2012, 07:46 PM
I have no advice but I wanted to send love to you and gentle noserubs to Gracie. You weren't to know about the affect it may have on her, it's just one of those horrible accidents.

Massive healing vibes.

xxx

FudgeTort
16-10-2012, 07:46 PM
Hope she kept her dressing on today and she is on the mend.

Hanlou
16-10-2012, 07:53 PM
Thank you Kermit. The reviews are so positive about manuka honey, I'm so hopeful. I really appreciate all the advice, help and support, so thank you everyone xx :)

People on the dog forum (and some of them are very knowledgable) swear by manuka honey.

Am so sorry this has happened. :(

I bought a Furminator for my dog but she always got upset when I used it - looking round at it and generally looking uncomfortable - so I have stopped using it. I now use a rake to get her undercoat out which looks a 100 times worse (though have tested it on my arm and it isn't sharp!) but she loves it and makes her happy noise and goes all gooey and relaxed when I use it! A few people on the dog forum have said their dogs reacted in just the same way to a Furminator. It does make you wonder...... :?

Really hope Gracie will be ok - sending lots of vibes xxx

Fee
16-10-2012, 08:09 PM
Poor little thing... I hope she makes a full recovery.... Thats quite a horrific sight on such a beautiful wee thing... Hugs to you all..

I did find this though already posted on here
http://forums.rabbitrehome.org.uk/showthread.php?242596-!WARNING!-About-use-of-the-*furminator*

Jaysmonkey
17-10-2012, 09:17 AM
Hey guys.

Apologies, I had a quick look last night on my phone, but I struggle to compose responses on my phone, so I didn't respond.

I'm on a computer now, here's the low-down. Gracie saw a vet last night who is actually a 'skin specialist', so this was actually perfect, he isn't concerned with her wound at all and believes that it is healing well (haven't used manuka honey yet), he believes that the skin to the back (the black bit) is dying, however the rest is relatively healthy. The wound had not opened any further and it is no longer 'wet looking' or seeping. It's is scabbing up and 'drying'. This is good!

Gracie was redressed last night and doesn't need to go back again until Thursday night for another check up. In herself she must be feeling better, she fought me alot with meds last night, even nipped my finger :lol: and this morning was begging for food and burying herself in her 'soft hay' :D:love:

Thank you everyone, I'll let you know how things go, but so far she's healing well. :love:

Snow-White
17-10-2012, 10:32 AM
Fabulous news!
Big cuddles to your Big girl!:love:

*lily*
17-10-2012, 10:34 AM
Awwwww bless her, hoping she keeps doing well xxx

Jaysmonkey
19-10-2012, 08:57 AM
Hello everyone,

Gracie had a follow up appointment yesterday.

The wound is still continuing to heal well and the skin is becoming pink and fleshy in the surrounding areas, this is brilliant! I have now been given the materials to redress the wound myself (helpful as no stress of continuous vet trips for little Gracie), although I will be heading back to the vets on Monday for a check over.

Here's the progress. As you can see it isn't weeping and is drying up, no infection and Gracie is back to normal in herself in terms on eating, weeing, pooing and drinking...of course she isn't running around as she must still be restricted in terms of space :(

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s252/Jaysmonkey/decorations/IMG1264.jpg

thumps_
19-10-2012, 10:30 AM
That's looking really good I'm so pleased for you both. :D I wonder if there's a little new fur growth already?

Keep up the good work Gracie.

Jaysmonkey
19-10-2012, 10:34 AM
That's looking really good I'm so pleased for you both. :D I wonder if there's a little new fur growth already?

Keep up the good work Gracie.

Thank you Judy, yes I noticed a little fur regrowth too, which is exceptional giving the period of time :) She's is such a trooper and the vets can't get over how well behaved she is. She just sits and lets you put the dressing on (it's quite a task :P). I do still have manuka honey too, although I haven't used it yet and considering this I think this is healing very well :) xx

helen01
19-10-2012, 11:04 AM
I am so pleased she is improving:thumb:

Camp Nibble
19-10-2012, 11:40 AM
Oh dear Stef, so sorry that 'Bunny' has caused you so much worry..... and expense :oops:

Please give her our love and best wishes you know how much we love here :love:

Thank you so much for getting her all of the help she needed and for taking such fantastic care of her.

Don't you dare blame yourself you silly thing :p

xxx

Kermit
19-10-2012, 11:42 AM
Glad she is on the mend, did you use the Manuka on it??

Jaysmonkey
19-10-2012, 12:17 PM
Oh dear Stef, so sorry that 'Bunny' has caused you so much worry..... and expense :oops:

Please give her our love and best wishes you know how much we love here :love:

Thank you so much for getting her all of the help she needed and for taking such fantastic care of her.

Don't you dare blame yourself you silly thing :p

xxx

:oops: I'll do anything for her, same with any of my bunnies :lol: She is such a treasure...I'm sorry I took away your two favourites...Bunny (now Gracie) and of course Roger :oops: I am so thankful though :love::love:

Jaysmonkey
19-10-2012, 12:19 PM
Glad she is on the mend, did you use the Manuka on it??

Thank you. I haven't yet. I will be doing a light layer tonight. I hadn't had the chance before as I didn't have the materials to redress the wound if I took the dressing off that the vets did, but now I do. :) Considering I haven't used the honey yet though, I do think it's doing exceptionally well :) xx

kat031181
19-10-2012, 12:44 PM
Only just seen this thanks for the sharing def one not to buy! Hope she continues to improve, you look like you are all doing so well! Best wishes from Katie and Smudge x

Kermit
19-10-2012, 12:46 PM
Thank you. I haven't yet. I will be doing a light layer tonight. I hadn't had the chance before as I didn't have the materials to redress the wound if I took the dressing off that the vets did, but now I do. :) Considering I haven't used the honey yet though, I do think it's doing exceptionally well :) xx

Yip, looking great :) I had thought you had used the honey and that was why :)

thumps_
19-10-2012, 01:00 PM
Thank you. I haven't yet. I will be doing a light layer tonight. I hadn't had the chance before as I didn't have the materials to redress the wound if I took the dressing off that the vets did, but now I do. :) Considering I haven't used the honey yet though, I do think it's doing exceptionally well :) xx

The important thing with honey is that it must be washed off with salt water, allowed to dry, & reapplied at least every 24 hours.
It gets diluted by the body fluids, & once the dilution is too high - well you'll know what happens!

TeflonsShadow
19-10-2012, 01:44 PM
I warned about furminators a few years ago after using one caused huge bald patches on Rimmi but everyone blamed the way I used the brush :(

Jaysmonkey
07-11-2012, 03:03 PM
Hey guys, just an update this is Gracie's wound now as you can see it has improved dramatically. This is without even needing the use Manuka honey!

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s252/Jaysmonkey/decorations/IMG1288.jpg

natsusakura
07-11-2012, 06:15 PM
i'm glad :) xx

dizzyg
07-11-2012, 09:01 PM
Oh that's good to see!

Looks like she'll be back to normal soon.

:love::love:

FudgeTort
07-11-2012, 09:10 PM
Really pleased she is doing well.
Did you hear anything back from the furminator people?

thumps_
08-11-2012, 12:50 AM
:wave:Oh that's great - fantastic recovery.
I honestly believe that the area with fur growth will soon reach to normal length, & will hide the pink area, which is completely well healed normal skin. I doubt it will ever grow fur, but I think'll be unable to find it in a few months time!:D