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charity neutering?

its the rabbits fault if it dies from being neutered - pdsa

its the rabbits fault if it dies under anaesthetic!!!

so says the pdsa i rung!!!

i was asking if they had exotic vets

all our vets have been to vet school and are fully qualified

do you have any exotic vets specialising in neutering rabbits?

its the rabbits fault if it dies under the anaesthetic!

(i got the impression she was rather used to saying this to people!)

there is a huge difference in statistics of survival rates
between exotic vets.

all our vets are fully qualified

yes i understand that your vets will have been trained at vet college.

end of conversation :( :(
no further forward in getting help.

also at 50 and 68 pounds its not even charity prices one would expect a proper specialist vet there doing it.
 
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charity neutering?? its the rabbits fault if it dies under anaesthetic!

i was pleased to be told i can receive help for my unexpected litter of rabbits who i have not yet managed to rehome and have now eneterd puberty that a charity could help.

however an incredibly rude woman called me.

told me a van would come and take the litter of rabbits away and it had to include both parents or they wouldnt do it -

to ..... both parents had to go or else there would be no point to it apparently

i dont know where the premises was because she wouldnt tell me -

or allow me to visit the premises -

or me take the rabbits to them

or talk to the vets (if they are vets and not technicians or students etc)

or tell me the survival rates

or tell me if they were exotic vets

and then apparently at the end of the day they would be brought back to me in the van - neutered

i laughed. its the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard

she snapped i must be wasting her time and that i can sort my own neutering out then as if it was some sort of punishment she was giving me.

dont get me wrong - i am badly in need of help - but not going to risk peoples lives lke this as rabbit neutering is a very serious operation and i wont be bullied like this by a charity!
 
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I'd phone again and hope you get someone else, if not I'd email them and ask if they could offer you any more help.

I see why they would want to take and neuter both parents and why they wouldn't want to tell you where it's done but they should have been able to give you a little more information than they have and it sounds like her attitude was definitely off. :(
 
I'd phone again and hope you get someone else, if not I'd email them and ask if they could offer you any more help.

I see why they would want to take and neuter both parents and why they wouldn't want to tell you where it's done but they should have been able to give you a little more information than they have and it sounds like her attitude was definitely off. :(

yes there is an argument for both parents but again that is a bit more in depth.

but can you clarify -

you CAN see the point of NOT telling me where it is being done?

with all the scandals at the back of pet shops and vets etc anyone must be a complete fool to not thoroughly check out the premises and vets before allowing their animals to go there? surely?
 
with ALL the scandals of what goes on in the back of pet shops and vets -

and i have seen some of them first hand -

then it is a nonsense to suggest a van would come and take them to a secret premises for serious surgery.

dont you agree?
 
weird, are you sure it's an actual charity and not someone wanting snake food? :shock:

Of course it is important for the parents to be neutered - but, as for the rest of it, doesn't sound like a reputable charity. Can you say who it is?
 
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Charity or no, if I can't see the clinic my pets will be operated at, they ain't going!

Collect them in a van and drop them off the same? I wonder if the buns will be blindfolded too?
 
yes there is an argument for both parents but again that is a bit more in depth.

but can you clarify -

you CAN see the point of NOT telling me where it is being done?

with all the scandals at the back of pet shops and vets etc anyone must be a complete fool to not thoroughly check out the premises and vets before allowing their animals to go there? surely?

sorry somehow I hadn't seen the first post saying that you had to pay for it. If they were paying for the whole lot I can see why they wouldn't want the public to know which vet did it, because the vet could end up being bombarded with people wanting free veterinary treatment.
As you're paying for it you're totally right, you should have a right to know where it's being done and the charity should be glad you'd rather take them rather than a driver, petrol and vehicle costs being at their expense.
 
sorry somehow I hadn't seen the first post saying that you had to pay for it. If they were paying for the whole lot I can see why they wouldn't want the public to know which vet did it, because the vet could end up being bombarded with people wanting free veterinary treatment.
As you're paying for it you're totally right, you should have a right to know where it's being done and the charity should be glad you'd rather take them rather than a driver, petrol and vehicle costs being at their expense.

The first post was pdsa their clinics and hospitals are all listed on their webpage and you take your pets to them they are not the ones who collect in a van I think that is another charity????
 
To be honest I don't understand the problem :oops: I totally see where she's coming from - they must get people all the time who have done it deliberately or not a genuine accident, so the insistence that ALL the animals including both parents go is a good one...it's the only way to be 100% certain that the person is serious - if someone let the babies get neutered but not the parents, the same could happen again, so that rule completely stops the risk. As someone else said, I also see why they wouldn't disclose the vet to you if it's being done charitably, because otherwise that vet could easily become overwhelmed or have people turning up to collect their animals where that wasn't the plan. If they are a genuine charity, it sounds to me like their way of being in control of the situation - if I were offering a charitable service, I think I'd be a bit rude to someone who demanded to know all the ins and outs of the procedure and the vets to be honest. I totally see why you want to know - it's because you care - but equally if they are doing you a favour, it's up to them to call the shots and you either want the favour or you don't. If you trust them as a charity and trust that they have a good reputation and judgement (and would themselves not use vets with poor success rates) then great - if not, don't use them.

I wouldn't get yourself too stressed about 'exotics specialist' vets performing the operation - there are actually very, very few qualified exotics vets in the UK, the issue is more about general training and competence with rabbits rather than the formal qualification. I would be amazed if a charity was able to afford a qualified exotics vet rather than a competent vet who probably does more neuters than the average vet. The vets at the surgery I go to aren't exotic specialists but they do a lot of rabbit spays with great success, and the same is true around the country (although equally a lot of others undoubtedly have very poor results too!)

Whatever you decide, I hope you manage to get a solution that you are comfortable with :)
 
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if you are on certain benefits teh blue cross maybe able to help you they offer vouchers to get £20 off neuterng of rabbits, but you need to contatc them frst, then send proof of what benefits you are on, then they will send you a voucher which you hand in to your vets :wave:
 
If you look at the OP's other started threads you will see she cannot afford to get them neutered and has been trying to rehome. £20 off is not a lot when you have 9 rabbits to get neutered (if I remember correctly) and I have to agree that if a charity contacted me and wanted to collect my rabbits and a van and disappear off with them, unless they where a very well known charity I would want to know the inns and outs regardless. Just because someone says they are a charity doesn't mean they are. You would think any charity would be pleased someone is taking good care of their pets and looking out for their welfare despite a bad situation and if the offer is genuine I think the lady on the phone should have taken the time to explain and put those fears to reason. There may very well be reasons for the secrecy but it would only take a few minutes surely to explain these on the phone to allay the fears of a nervous owner.
 
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Charity or no, if I can't see the clinic my pets will be operated at, they ain't going!

Collect them in a van and drop them off the same? I wonder if the buns will be blindfolded too?

i hurt myself laughing - :) :)

that captures the essence of how i was feeling exactly though -

did just want to get a bit of feedback from people you know as its mad a charity should be saying and doing this
 
The first post was pdsa their clinics and hospitals are all listed on their webpage and you take your pets to them they are not the ones who collect in a van I think that is another charity????

yep you are right i created two seperate threads -

one on the pdsa and the first post - which i wanted to talk of pdsa specifics

and one on this thread starting from post two down which i wanted to talk of general charities

:)
 
if you are on certain benefits teh blue cross maybe able to help you they offer vouchers to get £20 off neuterng of rabbits, but you need to contatc them frst, then send proof of what benefits you are on, then they will send you a voucher which you hand in to your vets :wave:

its always good to know these things i hadnt thought of the bluecross

cheers :)
 
If you look at the OP's other started threads you will see she cannot afford to get them neutered and has been trying to rehome. £20 off is not a lot when you have 9 rabbits to get neutered (if I remember correctly) and I have to agree that if a charity contacted me and wanted to collect my rabbits and a van and disappear off with them, unless they where a very well known charity I would want to know the inns and outs regardless. Just because someone says they are a charity doesn't mean they are. You would think any charity would be pleased someone is taking good care of their pets and looking out for their welfare despite a bad situation and if the offer is genuine I think the lady on the phone should have taken the time to explain and put those fears to reason. There may very well be reasons for the secrecy but it would only take a few minutes surely to explain these on the phone to allay the fears of a nervous owner.

yes why the secrecy?

practice vets being used? on the poor rabbits who since its charity should be happy with what their given even if it is a 50/50 chance and dirty conditions.

if its because its a vets - then you would think they would advertise their charity work - through specific channels though-

so as other schemes use vouchers and give you a choice of vet - this charity could too.

regardless of womans bad attitude -

it is 100% only right that people check out the premises
and the vets.

i cant see how any charity wouldnt encourage this sort of diligence.
 
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