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Vegan_Bunny
21-02-2012, 08:06 PM
Fiver went for his dental today. Apparently he took a long time to come round from the anaesthetic but I was told he was ok and could collect him at 5pm. I collected him and was told he hadn't eaten anything and that he was cold so it was important to keep him warm (they'd had him on a heat pad). I figured he hadn't eaten because he was at the vets and he HATES the vets and they gave me some recovery food just in case. They told me that if he hadn't eaten by 10m tomorrow morning then bring him straight back in.

Getting home I let him out of his carrier, he hopped out but was very wobbly. He looked confused and generally depressed; looking at the receipt it didn't look like he'd had any pain relief. I rang the vets and asked about this and told them I had some Metacam on hand and what dose I should give him. He hadn't been given any painkillers and was told to give him 0.2mls of the Metacam. I laid in bed with him under the covers as he was VERY cold to the touch. Unusually for him he closed his eyes and laid there with me for quite a while before deciding to hop down (rather clumsily) and sit in his litter tray looking miserable. I've managed to get him warmed up a little and he seems a little more alert but still hasn't eaten more than a few mouthfuls or carrot and some banana (the only things I thought he'd scoff). He won't touch his recovery food but I syringed some in him (with great difficulty) and I have seen him have a drink. He's had a few poos in his litter tray but other than that nothing else. On top of this his eyes look very sore and he won't open one of them. He had this problem when he had his neuter (a few years ago now!).

I have put his pillow in front of the radiator and he has been sat on there, he's also been venting his annoyance out on it by scrabbling it and pushing it down which must be a good sign? I am really worried about him and am shocked at the state he is in :cry: Is this a reaction to the anaesthetic or has the vet care been substandard? I thought he would have been given warm fluids if he had been so cold and maybe some gut stimulants?

I apologise if this doesn't make much sense, it's been a very long and stressful day and I'm just about done tbh.

Bunny Buddy
21-02-2012, 08:13 PM
Really difficult to say whether it's a bad reaction to anaesthetic (may have been done later etc) but it sounds like he needed rather intensive care rather than being let home :( My rabbit vet would very definitely have kept him in overnight to make sure he ate, was kept warm, hydrated etc.

The lack of painkiller is bad, thank god you knew enough to ask. Poor bunny :(

Jenova
21-02-2012, 08:16 PM
Not eating I can understand but if he's not able to regulate his body temperature or had painkillers I would be worried. Plus 0.2ml is a very low dose. However if he's digging at his cushion now that's a good sign and GA takes 24 hours to wear off properly. All animals should be kept warm afterwards anyway.

After a dental I think you need a high dose of painkillers. I would leave soggy pellets and things like parsley to tempt him. How much does he weigh?

yvette
21-02-2012, 08:17 PM
Sounds to me like he was the last fella down to surgery and they couldnt wait to send him home.

For pain, they may have administered a slow release jab which lasts 12 hrs....but if they say they didnt, then continue with metacam and give them a telling off.Specially as he was so cold.
A low temp, not eating bunny is an at risk bunny.

yvette
21-02-2012, 08:19 PM
Also, if his eyes are wet, then I can safely presume they used gel as the eyes dont close in an op and they have to keep the eyes hydrated.xx

Vegan_Bunny
21-02-2012, 08:22 PM
Yeh, I always get a receipt and check it to make sure he's had the meds he should have had but there was a lot of meds I don't recognise on it which worries me a bit :/ Apparently they are all anaesthetic related.

He just snatched some banana off me and ran off with it while flicking his feet at me :roll: So I think he's feeling better. I was confident with my vets until the vet I saw regularly left. I saw a different vet and she performed a dental on both Ellie and Fiver last year. Fiver was fine but Ellie seemed very slow to recover; not as bad as Fiver though, just not eating her hay and looking pretty sorry for herself. Fiver was fine the last time but then the same vet did a dental on Ellie and she died whilst under anaesthetic :cry: :cry: She had a lot of problems though and had been poorly for some time so I put it down to that. But now Fiver being so poorly after this has made me seriously question my vets.

To say I'm stressed out is a huge understatement. I feel so ill it's unreal and now I have to find a suitable vets that I can afford. This year has been dreadful :cry:

wendle
21-02-2012, 08:27 PM
My little Girly had a dental last Tuesday and was kept in with her little husbun along side her I was allowed to go visit them on Wednesday tea time because she was being kept in till Thursday till she was eating drinkin pooin etc , and I brought them home Thursday tea time 

Vegan_Bunny
21-02-2012, 08:34 PM
:( I feel so let down and so guilty that I have put him through that. He was so happy last night even though he was in a bit of pain (Metacam had taken the edge off) and was doing happy flops and had actually eaten more hay than he has done in weeks. :cry: :cry: My poor baby. I honestly don't know how much he weighs! He's not a big bunny, probably dutch size. I will go and weigh him. I have a feeling he may need more pain relief before the night is over and possibly a call to an emergency vet if he doesn't start eating properly. He seems mostly in pain now, he's perked up a lot and feels warm to the touch but when he eats, he stops chewing as if it hurts :cry:

wendle
21-02-2012, 08:37 PM
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Jenova
21-02-2012, 08:40 PM
:( I feel so let down and so guilty that I have put him through that. He was so happy last night even though he was in a bit of pain (Metacam had taken the edge off) and was doing happy flops and had actually eaten more hay than he has done in weeks. :cry: :cry: My poor baby. I honestly don't know how much he weighs! He's not a big bunny, probably dutch size. I will go and weigh him. I have a feeling he may need more pain relief before the night is over and possibly a call to an emergency vet if he doesn't start eating properly. He seems mostly in pain now, he's perked up a lot and feels warm to the touch but when he eats, he stops chewing as if it hurts :cry:

Don't feel bad, you didn't know. And once he recovers he'll feel even better.
His mouth is probably just sore.
What metacam do you have? Is it dog or cat? I'd be tempted to ring the vets and ask what weight they have on file for him. The dose for rabbits of the dog metacam is about 0.2ml per kilo of bunny. BUT DON'T GIVE IT TO HIM WITHOUT ASKING A VET FIRST. :)
I would leave him to his own devices as much as you can, just give nose rubs. Did you try soggy pellets? Both excel and science selective soak up water nicely and it's easier for dental bunnies to eat.

Vegan_Bunny
21-02-2012, 08:58 PM
I will try soaking pellets. I gave him some of those fruit crunchy things but I only have tiny bits left, he scoffed them fine! But they are very small so maybe he will eat soaked pellets. He's definitely not impressed with the recovery food. Although when I checked him he did give a little indignant grunt for trying to move him :love: :love: :love: Much more like himself.

My vets are closed and the emergency vets they use are totally different so I wouldn't think they'd have his records :( Otherwise I would ring them now. I didn't even get a "proper" dose from the vet when I rang :oops: She just told me to use the dose I usually use and it was the lowest dose because I was so worried about using it without vet advice; she'd given me some Metacam the week before after a bout of gas but it was in it's box still with no dosage on it. I knew Ellie had about 0.5mls of it and she was a big bunny :oops: He needed the pain relief to put him over until Monday and when I asked the vet she said that should be fine once a day. TBH I thought it was a pretty low dose but Fiver has never had anything wrong with him before and so has never needed any kind of meds...this is why I don't know his weight.

It is cat Metacam and so only has the dosages for cats on the box :( I won't give him anything more until I speak with a vet...although I can't contact my usual vet until tomorrow morning now. This is the problem with my area, all the vets use one emergency vet and don't have their own emergency vets. It should be standard practice to have their OWN emergency vets with their OWN vets and records!

MimzMum
21-02-2012, 09:42 PM
The poor baby. :( I have a Fiver rabbbit too, he's a mini rex. He did very poorly after a dental once and similar to what you're describing. I even waited in the surgery for hours at his pickup waiting for the vet to prescribe pain meds only to be told he'd had them...when I looked at my bill later there was no sign of them...nor any sub q fluids!! I was livid. We changed vets at once. He only goes to a vet dental specialist who takes excellent care of him now.
We also be sure to have extra pain meds at home, ask for gut stimulant if needed and Critical Care (food supplement). I have a vet now who is more available for advice after any visit. My bunnies get stressed enough just going to and fro to cause illness. :(

I'm so sorry for the loss of your other bunny. That must have been terrible. One doesn't expect such a thing during what should be a relatively simple procedure. ((((((Hugs)))))))

I agree that if Fiver is perking up enough to be pummeling something he's feeling a bit better. I watch my buns for a few days after dentals just to be certain their routine is restored. Some of mine come right back and are eating happily again in 24 hours, while another will feel poorly for about two days or so. It really depends on the care they were given and the bunny's own recovery spirit. Well that and lots of freshly washed veggies I notice really help get them eating until they're ready for hay again.

Vibes to your Fiver from me and my Fiver that he is back to himself soon and that you will feel better soon as well. :)
((((((((((((Healing Vibes)))))))))))))))

RedFraggle
21-02-2012, 09:58 PM
Scarlet was very wobbly after a dental, the first one she had done, and when she was alot better the next time the vet said they had swapped to a different brand of fentanyl, same strength etc. but a different formulation that was better tolerated by bunnies. She has also been cold when she first comes home but that is just down to the anaesthetic and we keep her warm until she's warmed up. She normally has a metacam shot at the vets on the day she has a dental and then nothing after that because she eats and is fine within a 12 hours (we are very lucky with her). When she had her extractions last week FHB checked I had some metacam at home before discharging her in case we needed it.

If the vets didn't give any pain relief I would ask them to explain why as I wouldn't be happy with that either.

GrahamL
22-02-2012, 08:26 AM
0.2ml of cat metacam won't even scratch the surface of any pain in a rabbit, in my opinion. It's just not strong enough. 0.2-0.4ml/kg/24 hours is the average, so if he was say a 2Kg bunny, he should get ~0.4-0.8ml/24 hours of DOG metacam. I dont know the dosing for cat metacam unfortunately, as we never use it.

I agree with others, he was probably very late on the surgery list and so still had a lot of GA in his system. Ginger comes home like that occasionally, but never as cold as you describe, just a bit 'spaced out' i would describe it as. I wouldn't be suggesting 'bad vet care' however, they just might not be particularly rabbit savvy, so don't realise any of the more intricate issues with rabbits post-GA etc. The comments re the metacam and pain relief etc tell me they aren't necessarily the best with rabbits. That doesn't mean its bad care.

Loads of vibes for Fiver that he's picked up this morning - let us know.

Jan
22-02-2012, 10:19 AM
How is the poor little man this morning? Hope he is more like his old self. They are such a worry aren`t they? Give him an extra few noserubs from me and a squish if you can get away with it. It seems anyone is very lucky to find a good rabbit vet. I think I may see if I can find a more knowledgeable vet in my area for the buns not that I need one that often thank goodness.

GrahamL
22-02-2012, 10:21 AM
How is the poor little man this morning? Hope he is more like his old self. They are such a worry aren`t they? Give him an extra few noserubs from me and a squish if you can get away with it. It seems anyone is very lucky to find a good rabbit vet. I think I may see if I can find a more knowledgeable vet in my area for the buns not that I need one that often thank goodness.

Put a thread up in 'Rabbit Chat' with the title of "Rabbit Savvy Vet needed in <insert your area here>" - most people here have very rabbit savvy vet recommendations :wave:

Jan
22-02-2012, 10:24 AM
Put a thread up in 'Rabbit Chat' with the title of "Rabbit Savvy Vet needed in <insert your area here>" - most people here have very rabbit savvy vet recommendations :wave:

Thanks your a star :thumb:

Vegan_Bunny
22-02-2012, 11:44 AM
Well.. I up until 3am with him. His temperature kept dipping and so I was having him in bed with me to keep him warm. My bedroom is really cold so it shows how bad he was at regulating his body temp. At 1:45am I decided to give him another dose of the 0.2mls of Metacam, he was looking in so much pain and was tooth grinding and "huffing". I made him a hot water bottle and wrapped it in a fleece...which he decided he hated and was just attacking :roll: But he at least had the option of somewhere warm to lay.
When I woke up this morning he had eaten all of his soaked pellets and the recovery food :love: He's even munched some hay and left a nice pile off poo for me even if they are small and black. He had a few hard pellets but wasn't really interested :( I had him in bed with me again this morning and he just laid there next to me asking for nose rubs. That is so not like him :( He's still in pain and still squinting his eye. I have work at 1pm but I may ring in sick. I will ring the vet but I think she is in surgery today so wont ring me back until after 1 I wouldn't think and tbh I have no confidence that she will know what a good dose of Metacam should be given to him :cry:

Just weighed him, he weighs 1.965kg...to be exact. When I went up just now he had eaten a few more pellets. He is now sulking on the top shelf of his cage because I had to put him in the carrier to weigh him :roll: I am still convinced he's in pain but I daren't give him more metacam untill I get a proper dose for his weight. He's basically 2kg and so should be on at least 0.4mls of the dog metacam if what GrahamL says is right but this is the cat metacam so I would presume it would have to be a higher dose.

Hello Mimzmum :wave: Fivers always seem to worry us! Seems the name attracts trouble :roll: I hope your Fiver is doing well :) I was devastated when I lost Ellie as it was so unexpected. I cried for days and Fiver mourned her for weeks :cry: :cry:
He was fine after the dental he had previously but this time something has gone wrong/changed that he hasn't been able to cope well with. I think he would have recovered so much better and quicker if he'd just had the right dosage of painkillers in the first place!

Thank you so much everyone for being so supportive and sending all those vibes and advice. I honestly can't thank you all enough, he is improving but slowly. I just wish none of this had happened to him :cry: As soon as I manage to get him eating properly I think he'll feel better but his teeth are clearly painful still :( I still can't believe he had no pain relief whatsoever, it's such a good job I had some metacam and have experience in bunnies. I believe that if a bunny had been given to anybody else in this state with less experience (and no access to this brilliant forum and you lovely people :love: ) than me he would certainly have died over night :(

GrahamL
22-02-2012, 11:49 AM
I would STRONGLY recommend you get him to another vet for a look over and suitable pain relief. If this vet isn't rabbit savvy, its perfectly plausible they have not gone a good job on his teeth at all, and in fact, it has been known, that it can make it worse if a vet who doesnt know too much about rabbit dentals gets it wrong.

Another reason for his slow recovery, could be too much anaesthetic. This happened once to Ginger when she was given too much and she was in effect drunk for ~2 days. Was horrible to watch, but she slowly recovered. Thankfully, we have a great vet team.

I would, in my opinion, put a thread up in Rabbit Chat asking for a Rabbit Savvy vet in your area too. I would be asking for a second opinion right now.

Vegan_Bunny
22-02-2012, 11:57 AM
I definitely will post up for a rabbit savvy vet. someone recommended a good rabbit savvy vet in Sunderland but that's a bit far for me to go. I called the vet and they want me to bring him in straight away :( I'm going to take them and see what they say and make sure he gets some adequate pain relief!! :evil: Hopefully an injection of metacam will be better and will last longer.

We'll see what they say. I think they could tell I was rather upset over his care.

Update you all when I get back.

Jenova
22-02-2012, 02:30 PM
Good luck.

Vegan_Bunny
22-02-2012, 02:30 PM
Back from the vets and it's clear that the vet doesn't really know what she's talking about :cry: She told me that buns don't need pain relief after a dental unless the teeth have done damage to their tongues/gums and that 0.2mls is the right dose for Fiver, even though I told her that that dose didn't really help. She gave him a shot of Metacam and told me not to give him any until tomorrow (which I wouldn't have done anyway) and gave him some gut stimulant.

He's still not right but I don't expect him to be back to his normal self for a few days yet. I left him in his room, nibbling some hay and he's looking a little brighter. I had to move him from his cage, however, since he was just sitting on his top shelf again. I try to encourage him to move around every now and again when he does this because sitting in one place isn't going to help his guts :(

I won't be going back to these vets again. I am sad over this because I've been with them since Fiver was a baby but this vet clearly isn't rabbit savvy. I know this isn't her fault, or the vets fault, but I wouldn't be comfortable staying there when I know Fiver isn't getting the proper care. Time to see if there's any rabbit savvy vets in my area...although I'm pretty sure there isn't :(

I feel that it's just one thing after another. Another awful thing is that I was meant to be getting a friend for Fiver on Sunday evening which I'm going to have to postpone until he is perfectly well and I have a good vet. Hopefully it won't be too long but I'm now worrying that if he has reacted this badly to the anaesthetic that I may be getting a bun just to lose him when he goes for another dental and be back to square one, with a lonely bunny :(

Jenova
22-02-2012, 02:40 PM
It sounds like you're making all the right decisions.
If you can find a good vet, speak to them about holding the next dental off for as long as possible. Grim actually stopped breathing under anaesthetic once and we very nearly lost him. Thanks to an amazing vet we didn't. The next time he needed a dental we put it off for a couple of months with lots of painkillers until I knew he wasn't comfortable any more. He's been fine under GA since then.

I think more than a bad reaction to the GA it was probably lack of painkillers. It does hurt to have a dental, even if the teeth haven't done any damage to the mouth.

If no one on RU knows of a good vet in the area then try ringing a few near you and asking if they have anyone who specialises in rabbits. That's how I found my vet. :)

GrahamL
22-02-2012, 02:47 PM
I personally dont think you can leave him for a couple of days like this.

I would start calling round vets, get a thread up in rabbit chat now, if he's not eating barely anything, its probably hurting him A LOT to eat still. He's had insufficient pain relief (in my opinion only) and giving him a gut stimulant while his mouth is hurting isn't necessarily a good thing. It's going to make him want to eat, but if he's hurting to eat, he'll just stop and go backwards and it'll be a big circle.

Can you mush up some pellets in a little water, get his normal herbs and veg and soak them in water and leave them with him to tempt him? Hay is probably the last thing he'll want to eat if his teeth are hurting too.

The vet may well be right that a rabbit doesnt normally need pain relief after a dental, but thats not a blanket situation. Some do.

Vegan_Bunny
22-02-2012, 02:50 PM
Thank you I will do. I personally think that he would have done better one pain killers and warm fluids. Fortunately his last dental was last year and so I'm hoping if I cross all my fingers and toes that he won't need another till next year but that may be too much to ask :cry:

Meanwhile I don't know what to do about the doe I was meant to be getting. He is lonely and gets bored so easily but I'm worried about him and his future :(

GrahamL
22-02-2012, 02:52 PM
Thank you I will do. I personally think that he would have done better one pain killers and warm fluids. Fortunately his last dental was last year and so I'm hoping if I cross all my fingers and toes that he won't need another till next year but that may be too much to ask :cry:

Meanwhile I don't know what to do about the doe I was meant to be getting. He is lonely and gets bored so easily but I'm worried about him and his future :(

Concentrate on him. He's the one whom you have a responsibility right now. He can't be bonded like this any way, so its a moot point right now. He needs you to fight for him, he can't do that himself.

There will always be other girls to bond him with, rescues are always overflowing.

Vegan_Bunny
22-02-2012, 03:05 PM
Yes, your right. I have told the girl looking after the doe that I can't do the bonding this weekend. She said there is no problem but obviously I can't let her hang in limbo forever. I will see how/if he improves over he next week or so and go from there.

I have just soaked some pellets for him, he does love soaked pellets but won't eat them when they are warm! :roll: Strange bunny :lol: I'm not overly worried about him, he is eating but just not as much as before. Ellie used to be like this right after her dentals and I think it was because her teeth felt weird afterwards but she always picked up after a few days and her eating/pooing was back to normal.

Posted up in rabbit chat about a good vet :thumb:

Pebblesetc
22-02-2012, 03:07 PM
Poor bunny, I hope he's better soon.
I think saying they don't need pain relief shows that the vet you're using is a bit iffy; the process of anaesthetic can be quite painful itself. I know that when Buckley had his GA (not for a dental) they put a tube down his throat. It really irritated his throat; he couldn't swallow properly after the procedure because his throat was sore, and that was with metacam (prescribed for his sore leg).

GrahamL
22-02-2012, 03:09 PM
Yes, your right. I have told the girl looking after the doe that I can't do the bonding this weekend. She said there is no problem but obviously I can't let her hang in limbo forever. I will see how/if he improves over he next week or so and go from there.

I have just soaked some pellets for him, he does love soaked pellets but won't eat them when they are warm! :roll: Strange bunny :lol: I'm not overly worried about him, he is eating but just not as much as before. Ellie used to be like this right after her dentals and I think it was because her teeth felt weird afterwards but she always picked up after a few days and her eating/pooing was back to normal.

Posted up in rabbit chat about a good vet :thumb:

:thumb:

You're doing well for him, take solace in that, just keep it up :)

Jenova
22-02-2012, 03:12 PM
When I make soggy pellets I put the pellets in a cup and pour cold water on them so it comes up to the same level as the pellets and then leave them for five minutes. I don't use warm water. I'm not sure what the benefits are either way but Grim has always eaten them.

GrahamL
22-02-2012, 03:13 PM
When I make soggy pellets I put the pellets in a cup and pour cold water on them so it comes up to the same level as the pellets and then leave them for five minutes. I don't use warm water. I'm not sure what the benefits are either way but Grim has always eaten them.

I think its the whole boiled water making clean water thingy, thats why i always used cooled boiled :)

Jenova
22-02-2012, 03:19 PM
I think its the whole boiled water making clean water thingy, thats why i always used cooled boiled :)

But they just have cold tap water in their bowl to drink so... I don't know. Maybe I'm more lenient with my hygiene.

GrahamL
22-02-2012, 03:21 PM
But they just have cold tap water in their bowl to drink so... I don't know. Maybe I'm more lenient with my hygiene.

I agree, i think its one of those hammered in things and it's just stuck :lol:

Im so used to making cooled boiled water to clean Ginger's eyes with, it kinda sticks!

Jenova
22-02-2012, 03:23 PM
I agree, i think its one of those hammered in things and it's just stuck :lol:

Im so used to making cooled boiled water to clean Ginger's eyes with, it kinda sticks!

I use it for eyes, definitely. :wave:

Vegan_Bunny
22-02-2012, 03:34 PM
I just used warm tap water to do these ones. I went up and he was sat on the window sill, his eye is still sore but I think it will be fine in a few days. He was interested in them and ate a few but then would only eat them if I gave him them by hand :roll: He had quite a few then hopped down off the sill and went into his litter tray and started nibbling his hay. So this is a good sign :) Just need him to do some poos and I will be a lot happier!

He's not been cold since this morning so he's regulating his body temp fine by himself. I rang in sick for work so I could keep an eye on him and get him sorted at the vets. I also feel rather exhausted so I'm glad I didn't go in today tbh although I still feel guilty about letting people down :?

I can't do any more for him and he's is so much better than he was last night, alert and getting his grump back, been growling at me when I go near his litter tray :lol: He's still not running over when I open the door to come in as he usually does but has followed me out of the bedroom a few times to explore the landing as he usually does. :roll: Any excuse to "escape" lol.

I don't know what I'd do without you people! I would be a total wreck if I didn't have the advice and support of this forum, it really is a life saver. :thumb:

GrahamL
22-02-2012, 03:47 PM
Sorry, think i may have missed something. Whats wrong with his eye?

Vegan_Bunny
22-02-2012, 04:29 PM
Oh sorry! I mentioned it in the first post that his eyes were sore and he was closing them repeatedly. He's got one fully opened now and it isn't bothering him but his left is a little sore still. He had this problem when he got neutered so I'm not too worried about it. I bathed his eye yesterday with some tissue and warm water but would he hell stay still. I've just left it alone as it looks less sore and he's stopped washing it with his front paws so I think he'll be ok with that :)

hot cross bun
22-02-2012, 07:14 PM
dont know if this helps when fifi had her 1st dental last month she was on dog metacam for 5 days at 0.3ml and she weighs 1.8kg:thumb:

Vegan_Bunny
23-02-2012, 09:22 PM
Thank you everyone! He seems pretty much back to normal. He's not eating quite as much hay as I would like but has been munching hard pellets perfectly ok and stopped looking so uncomfortable. I gave him some Metacam tonight and he is definitely feeling better; growling and fighting me. I have never had so much trouble administering meds to any animal as I do with him :roll:

Nobody has replied to my thread on a rabbit savvy vet yet so I'm still vetless :( When I have the time I will ring around my local vets and see if I can find somewhere! Pretty sick of not having any good vets round here tbh :( I don't understand why all the specialist vets seem to be down south :? Either I find somewhere here or I will have to treck all the way to Sunderland for vets :roll: Bloody bunnies!! :lol:

RedFraggle
23-02-2012, 10:26 PM
There's a thread on the guinea pig forum that discusses a few exotics specialists.
http://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=62568
Could maybe try posting there or on a rat forum.
It might give you a short list at least

Vegan_Bunny
23-02-2012, 11:15 PM
Would that be on the Fancy Rats forum? When I had rats I couldn't find a very good vet but I used to tell whatever vet I saw exactly what meds and dosage the rats needed. Unfortunately it's a bit more complicated when it comes to bunnies because they range so much in weight and size and sensitivity to certain things. :( I will have a look and see if anyone has posted on them however. I think the Bridge Vets is the best "small animal" vet in my area but there is no way I could afford their extortionate rates. :cry:

MimzMum
24-02-2012, 03:24 AM
I'm glad to hear Fiver is doing better, and sorry to hear your vet is not being as helpful at this time. I am dealing with much the same thing here...just not enough good exotic vets (not many folks enjoy plying their trade in the frozen north) and the one I do have is leaving our practice soon. :( I told her if she'd like I'll forfeit my retirement to build her her own surgery down the street from me if she'd just agree to tend all my furkids. ;)

I should've mentioned the hand feeding. My own bunnies do so much better after dentals if I take the time to pop in on them over the following few days and tickle their lips with hand fed hay or veg. I realize those who work don't always have that time but I'm a stay at home mom so I can keep a closer eye on my charges.

I hope your dear Fiver continues to improve and that you can find that splendid vet and an eventual mate for him. I've longed to bond my Fiver, but hubby has put his foot down at three rabbits, Mimzy and Pip are spoken for one another and I am dubious about making a successful trio...plus Fiver seems to see ME as his mate. 0_o
Hugs to you both! :)

Vegan_Bunny
24-02-2012, 11:55 AM
Thankyou so much :) I'm sorry you are having trouble with vets but I can see how difficult it would be to find a decent bunny vet in Alaska :shock: At least I'm not so far out of the way! It's going to be hard but the only vet I've been recommended is about 20-30mins away so it's going to be about an hour round trip just to go to the vets :( I don't mind the travelling time, I just want to make sure I'd be able to take them before or after work with that distance :?
I'm going to ring around some vets in my area when I have the time to sit down and go through all the small animal vets in my area. :roll: Joy.

Fortunately Fiver seems back to his normal self; charging at me, binkying when I walk in the room and bar biting when it's feeding time :roll: lol.

parsnipbun
24-02-2012, 12:21 PM
Thankyou so much :) I'm sorry you are having trouble with vets but I can see how difficult it would be to find a decent bunny vet in Alaska :shock: At least I'm not so far out of the way! It's going to be hard but the only vet I've been recommended is about 20-30mins away so it's going to be about an hour round trip just to go to the vets :( I don't mind the travelling time, I just want to make sure I'd be able to take them before or after work with that distance :?
I'm going to ring around some vets in my area when I have the time to sit down and go through all the small animal vets in my area. :roll: Joy.

Fortunately Fiver seems back to his normal self; charging at me, binkying when I walk in the room and bar biting when it's feeding time :roll: lol.

I guess the thing to remember is that although a good rabbit vet may be expensive (or distant) its money saved in the long run as they will actually make the bun better - a cheap rubbish vet will just prescribe and charge and not actually cure - so its wasting money.(and I know not all cheap vets are rubbish - but in your case that seems the option - cheap/rubbish or expensive/good)

MimzMum
24-02-2012, 12:23 PM
Sounds familiar. :( We're 30 minutes one way to our vets in town. But the worst is hubby's driving. >_<

I take all three in over the weekend for their well checks. It'd be easier if we didn't have to use three separate carriers.
Good to hear Fiver is back to himself. Love the bar biting...lol. All of mine are guilty of that at one time or other. I hope you have better luck finding a good (closer) vet. :)

steph182
24-02-2012, 12:32 PM
Would that be on the Fancy Rats forum? When I had rats I couldn't find a very good vet but I used to tell whatever vet I saw exactly what meds and dosage the rats needed. Unfortunately it's a bit more complicated when it comes to bunnies because they range so much in weight and size and sensitivity to certain things. :( I will have a look and see if anyone has posted on them however. I think the Bridge Vets is the best "small animal" vet in my area but there is no way I could afford their extortionate rates. :cry:

They are pretty good at daylight robbery!