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okikokikate
18-01-2012, 05:40 PM
Hope you can help.

Im currently looking into getting 2 rescue centre rabbits and keeping them indoors.

Could you help me compile a checklist of what I need?

So far I have:

Hay
Dog bed + towels (to sleep in)
cardboard boxes
wooden garland to chew
chew stopper spray
48" dog crate
Wickery balls to play with
water bottle
food bowl

xxranxx
18-01-2012, 05:44 PM
erm pellets? a tunnel (not really a necessity though) litter tray? cant think of much at moment :)

Sky-O
18-01-2012, 05:48 PM
Carry case, water bowl/bottle, food bowl (maybe wait until talking to the centre about all those things though). I'd wait until you talk to the rescue before buying pellets too.

Litter trays.

weeble
18-01-2012, 05:49 PM
Hope you can help.

Im currently looking into getting 2 rescue centre rabbits and keeping them indoors.

Could you help me compile a checklist of what I need?

So far I have:

Hay
Dog bed + towels (to sleep in)
cardboard boxes
wooden garland to chew
chew stopper spray
48" dog crate
Wickery balls to play with


Water and Feed Bowls
Basic First Aid Kit
Register with and details of a good vet
Lotf of newspaper
Veg
A crate on its own is great but a bit small so a pen to attach to it
An outside run (for summer only)

Jaysmonkey
18-01-2012, 05:50 PM
Hope you can help.

Im currently looking into getting 2 rescue centre rabbits and keeping them indoors.

Could you help me compile a checklist of what I need?

So far I have:

Hay
Dog bed + towels (to sleep in)
cardboard boxes
wooden garland to chew
chew stopper spray
48" dog crate
Wickery balls to play with
water bottle
food bowl


Litter tray
Megazorb
Play pen
toys
Water bowl
Snugglesafe
Icepod
Pellets
Hay rack
Tunnel/hidey house

Elena
18-01-2012, 06:11 PM
Pet carrier, can also double as a hideaway. :)

little-laura
18-01-2012, 06:18 PM
make sure the pet carrier is big enough for both buns to be in the same carrier

A vet could be a great vet with other pets like dogs and cats but terrible with rabbits so you will need to find a good rabbit vet, if you let people on here know roughly where you like in wales how far you can travel etc... there may be a user who uses a vets near you or can recommend you a vet.

try to learn about all the different types of hay, some users on here use they hay experts to buy hay http://www.thehayexperts.co.uk/

Different buns love diffferent hays mine love green oat and alphalfa

okikokikate
18-01-2012, 06:49 PM
Would this be any good attached to a 48" dog crate as a space for them to hop round in the day?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Puppy-Rabbit-Guinea-panel-24inches/dp/B004D9QACQ/ref=sr_1_40?s=pet-supplies&ie=UTF8&qid=1326908501&sr=1-40

RedFraggle
18-01-2012, 06:53 PM
It's not very big, could you bunny proof a room for them so they can have plenty of space when you're out?

little-laura
18-01-2012, 07:08 PM
It's not very big, could you bunny proof a room for them so they can have plenty of space when you're out?

a pen would be fine attached to the 48" dog cart

people need to remember many people cant have a bunny proof room because of their circumstances, most would if they could its been suggested and is obviously not possible for the op

this was not an attack on you redfraggle its just a bit daunting when new users come on here trying to do their best and so many people push for free ranging >_<

I feel she is doing brilliantly by changing her original plans taking on board all the advice and learning like the rest of us did and still are.

however if you can I would go for a bigger pen there are lovely ones on ebay

Elena
18-01-2012, 07:13 PM
Thing is you can spend a lot of money on different pens and end up free ranging anyway and wishing you'd saved that money for vets bills. :) If free ranging is possible it means you're not loosing living space. But it isn't always possible.

Based on what I can see on Amazon the pen is 20 sq ft. Added to a four by three dog crate that adds up to 32 sq ft. Personally I would go for bigger or see if they can attach together and get two.

little-laura
18-01-2012, 07:17 PM
Thing is you can spend a lot of money on different pens and end up free ranging anyway and wishing you'd saved that money for vets bills. :) If free ranging is possible it means you're not loosing living space. But it isn't always possible.

Based on what I can see on Amazon the pen is 20 sq ft. Added to a four by three dog crate that adds up to 32 sq ft. Personally I would go for bigger or see if they can attach together and get two.

would love to free range the buns but cant till we own a house... its something my oh has put his foot firmly down on and I dont blame him a friend of ours free ranges and just lost her deposit due to the damage and she did all she could to bun proof....

so like we have both said its not always possible as lovely as it would be

but i also agree with you a bigger pen would be better if you can hun

okikokikate
18-01-2012, 07:21 PM
Im in rented accomm so trying to make to make the best of a bad situation lol

really appreciate everyones ideas and feedback. im defo still learning atm.

hopefully going to ncar rescue tomorrow if i can get there in time...

Kate

okikokikate
18-01-2012, 07:24 PM
Will keep on looking. im not good with measurements and how big they actually are

little-laura
18-01-2012, 07:36 PM
well I have a drop pin pen which you can shape how you want its measures 48"

I bought it because I can buy another and put two together to make it much larger when we get more room

okikokikate
18-01-2012, 07:39 PM
Just measured out the floor space of the crate ive ordered (with quality street hehe)
Seems big but I guess they need it

weeble
18-01-2012, 07:40 PM
Attaching that pen to a crate would be the same as attaching a 6 x 4 pen to it because it would be open at one end to attach to the pen (hope that makes sense) which to me is great. I used to have a similar set up for my indoor buns.

The only problem you may have is that they could jump out. My foster bun used to :roll: So you may need a net over the pen part

RedFraggle
18-01-2012, 07:45 PM
a pen would be fine attached to the 48" dog cart

people need to remember many people cant have a bunny proof room because of their circumstances, most would if they could its been suggested and is obviously not possible for the op

this was not an attack on you redfraggle its just a bit daunting when new users come on here trying to do their best and so many people push for free ranging >_<

I feel she is doing brilliantly by changing her original plans taking on board all the advice and learning like the rest of us did and still are.

however if you can I would go for a bigger pen there are lovely ones on ebay

I am a dufus, I read it wrong and thought it was 2ft x 2ft, not each panel :oops: *goes back to hide under a rock*

weeble
18-01-2012, 07:55 PM
I am a dufus, I read it wrong and thought it was 2ft x 2ft, not each panel :oops: *goes back to hide under a rock*

:lol::lol::lol:

bunlover
18-01-2012, 08:04 PM
In terms of other bunny things u may need or want if you have an applee or willow tree near u cut some twigs for buns to chew n eat. Also mayb a tray which you plant grass or herbs in for the bunnies. also I would try n get nail clippers and some blankets or fleeces for buns which are also useful for wrapping norty buns when doing nails or meds. Also tunnels are always good for bunnies lots of hay :) in your 48invh crate you can put a 2nd level shelf too which helps give more space and also agree with attatching a pen :) mayb an outdoor run for warmer months if you have a garden? Or perhaps a carry case make sure big enough for your bunnies ie 2 mini lops take up far less space than 2 frenchies!! :) also echo lots of newspaper and a water bowl as well as bottle, toys are great but can make ur own too. X

okikokikate
18-01-2012, 10:50 PM
In terms of other bunny things u may need or want if you have an applee or willow tree near u cut some twigs for buns to chew n eat. Also mayb a tray which you plant grass or herbs in for the bunnies. also I would try n get nail clippers and some blankets or fleeces for buns which are also useful for wrapping norty buns when doing nails or meds. Also tunnels are always good for bunnies lots of hay :) in your 48invh crate you can put a 2nd level shelf too which helps give more space and also agree with attatching a pen :) mayb an outdoor run for warmer months if you have a garden? Or perhaps a carry case make sure big enough for your bunnies ie 2 mini lops take up far less space than 2 frenchies!! :) also echo lots of newspaper and a water bowl as well as bottle, toys are great but can make ur own too. X

Good tips - I have messaged my fb friends asking if anyone has an apple or willow tree :)
What type of materials are ok for rabbits? I got some old towels from an animal charity shop today, hoping that they would be ok for them to sit or snuggle on..

Still working out a solution to making the dog crate tray deeper, and a simple but decent shelf inside the crate to make more habitable

Got a toilet roll tube at the ready, going to attempt the ball made of rings of tube as on the toy sticky :)

okikokikate
18-01-2012, 11:01 PM
Also, what type of grass or herbs could I plant?

little-laura
18-01-2012, 11:01 PM
Attaching that pen to a crate would be the same as attaching a 6 x 4 pen to it because it would be open at one end to attach to the pen (hope that makes sense) which to me is great. I used to have a similar set up for my indoor buns.

The only problem you may have is that they could jump out. My foster bun used to :roll: So you may need a net over the pen part

thats why i suggested putting chicken wire/mesh over the top ^________^

okikokikate
19-01-2012, 12:38 AM
Trying to find best value for money. torn between puppy pen and nic cubes

Jenova
19-01-2012, 01:03 AM
Towels and fleeces are fine. :)
Herbs, rabbits can have: parsley, coriander, basil, rosemary, mint and more. Just not chives as they're part of the onion family (rabbits cannot have onions, garlic or anything from a bulb). :)
Most grasses are fine, I've also planted some clover and plantain. If you've got time and some nice rural areas you can forage for a lot of great foods like plantain or bramble leaves.

A shelf inside the crate would be quite easy to do. I did it by running two pieces of wood through the bars and Screwing the shelf onto them.

The best toys for rabbits I've found are various boxes and cardboard tubes filled with hay. :)

little-laura
19-01-2012, 01:05 AM
Towels and fleeces are fine. :)
Herbs, rabbits can have: parsley, coriander, basil, rosemary, mint and more. Just not chives as they're part of the onion family (rabbits cannot have onions, garlic or anything from a bulb). :)
Most grasses are fine, I've also planted some clover and plantain. If you've got time and some nice rural areas you can forage for a lot of great foods like plantain or bramble leaves.

A shelf inside the crate would be quite easy to do. I did it by running two pieces of wood through the bars and Screwing the shelf onto them.

The best toys for rabbits I've found are various boxes and cardboard tubes filled with hay. :)

theres a thread about adding shelves to dog cages isnt there cant remember where it is though

Elena
19-01-2012, 01:07 AM
theres a thread about adding shelves to dog cages isnt there cant remember where it is though

Indoor thread, in my siggy.

I would say, if you're absolutely definite you can't free range then go for a dog crate and pen, they are more long wearing, but if you have an awkward space or need something more flexible and may be able to free range in the future go for the cubes, they are pretty handy for proofing areas.

Coineanach
19-01-2012, 01:08 AM
Im in rented accomm so trying to make to make the best of a bad situation lol

really appreciate everyones ideas and feedback. im defo still learning atm.

hopefully going to ncar rescue tomorrow if i can get there in time...

Kate

I am in rented too and apart from my first indoor bun and sick buns, have always free-ranged. :D If you proof really well and keep things out of bunny reach damage isn't an issue - my last bun was a chewer (so much so she was known as destruct-o-bun :roll::lol:) and we managed to keep most things intact. The things that were damaged were things I stupidly left out (like laptop cables :oops:) or that I didn't think a bunny would be able to get into - I've since learned better!

I'll write a longer message with regards to proofing and things I've learned tomorrow if you're interested, I only popped on quickly to reply to a PM so afraid I don't have time tonight. But I would highly reccommend free-ranging - it takes up a lot less space (no bulky cage) and I think you bond better with the buns, as they can come up and say hello whenever they like :D Apologies if you have already decided differently, I've only read as far as this post, and afraid I can't help with sizes and things as I am a complete maths doofus! :lol: But if you're interested in free-ranging I'm happy to help. :wave:

Don't be afraid to ask questions at the rescue, most are pleased to see people take an interest. The reason people are saying not to buy pellets yet (sorry if you already know this) is because buns have very sensitive tummies and you shouldn't change them rapidly from one type of food to another, so ideally you should get the same food the rescue has and change it over if necessary :D

E. Just noticed the post above. A puppy pen will be cheaper, but NIC cubes are more flexible and can be made into any shape you want. The can also be made to have a lid, but for a puppy pen you would need to buy or make one seperately. If you think you may have to move house in the next few years, I'd go with the NIC cubes - they will be more expensive at first but you can adapt them to different room layouts more easily.

little-laura
19-01-2012, 01:30 AM
I am in rented too and apart from my first indoor bun and sick buns, have always free-ranged. :D If you proof really well and keep things out of bunny reach damage isn't an issue - my last bun was a chewer (so much so she was known as destruct-o-bun :roll::lol:) and we managed to keep most things intact. The things that were damaged were things I stupidly left out (like laptop cables :oops:) or that I didn't think a bunny would be able to get into - I've since learned better!

I'll write a longer message with regards to proofing and things I've learned tomorrow if you're interested, I only popped on quickly to reply to a PM so afraid I don't have time tonight. But I would highly reccommend free-ranging - it takes up a lot less space (no bulky cage) and I think you bond better with the buns, as they can come up and say hello whenever they like :D Apologies if you have already decided differently, I've only read as far as this post, and afraid I can't help with sizes and things as I am a complete maths doofus! :lol: But if you're interested in free-ranging I'm happy to help. :wave:

Don't be afraid to ask questions at the rescue, most are pleased to see people take an interest. The reason people are saying not to buy pellets yet (sorry if you already know this) is because buns have very sensitive tummies and you shouldn't change them rapidly from one type of food to another, so ideally you should get the same food the rescue has and change it over if necessary :D

E. Just noticed the post above. A puppy pen will be cheaper, but NIC cubes are more flexible and can be made into any shape you want. The can also be made to have a lid, but for a puppy pen you would need to buy or make one seperately. If you think you may have to move house in the next few years, I'd go with the NIC cubes - they will be more expensive at first but you can adapt them to different room layouts more easily.

when I explained the options for housing my buns to my ex landlord he said he would not allow me to have the buns in the apartment if they free ranged but was ok with the dog cat and pen.

she has already said free ranging isnt possible.... so we should focus on helping her decide the best way forward for her with the dog cart and either pen or nic cubes etc...

Coineanach
19-01-2012, 02:26 AM
when I explained the options for housing my buns to my ex landlord he said he would not allow me to have the buns in the apartment if they free ranged but was ok with the dog cat and pen.

she has already said free ranging isnt possible.... so we should focus on helping her decide the best way forward for her with the dog cart and either pen or nic cubes etc...

And I already said that I didn't have a lot of time and hadn't read the thread properly. I was only trying to emphasise that free-ranging in rented accommodation IS possible - I have managed it in four seperate flats, with four seperate landlords with no problems and only occasional, easily fixable damage.

Maybe YOUR landlord doesn't like free-ranging - that doesn't mean no-one else's will. I was just trying to help the OP understand that the stereotypical thought of 'buns chew everything in sight and there's no way you can stop them' is not true. No need to jump at me for explaining my own experiences, isn't that what this forum is about? People sharing what they know to help other bunny owners? And my experience is in free-ranging. If you bothered to read my reply, I actually wrote


if you're interested

Apologies if you have already decided differently

And even made suggestions about NIC panelling and puppy pens! I am not trying to force the OP into choosing either way, just explaining through my own involvement what I have found works best.

Apologies for derailing your thread okikokikate. I'm away to bed as I've done my PM's, but wanted to make it clear that no-one on here is going to force a decision on you one way or another, we all share what we know and you choose what to do with it, as you know your setup and what it suitable for it. :) I hope you get on well at the rescue tomorrow, or later today I suppose! :wave:

okikokikate
19-01-2012, 09:16 AM
Couldnt sleep properly. Too excited! Hoping I can get there in time, get some more info and see the wabbits! Dont know how Im only gonna choose 2 though! X

okikokikate
19-01-2012, 11:30 AM
This morning is going so slowly!
Rabbit ladies are at the centre at 2pm...think I'll pop before 2pm comes along :love:

janice
19-01-2012, 11:39 AM
http://forums.rabbitrehome.org.uk/showthread.php?304613-Indoor-Housing the above thread has lots of ideas about keeping rabbits indoors which may help you find something which will work in your place

little-laura
19-01-2012, 01:10 PM
oooo keep us updated :love:

okikokikate
19-01-2012, 09:53 PM
Bringing home a gorgeous girl on Saturday :love:

Jenova
19-01-2012, 09:55 PM
Awesome news. :):)

little-laura
19-01-2012, 09:55 PM
Bringing home a gorgeous girl on Saturday :love:

^____________________________________^

can you get two?

its always better to keep two buns as they look after each other

okikokikate
19-01-2012, 09:58 PM
This little one is too young to be spayed. They think shes around 15/16 weeks. So she has been happily living on her own.
She hasnt got her winter coat either, so want to get her inside as quick as poss, she must be cold outside!
I did tell the center 2 was fine, but they didnt have any other singles anyway.

little-laura
19-01-2012, 09:59 PM
This little one is too young to be spayed. They think shes around 15/16 weeks. So she has been happily living on her own.
She hasnt got her winter coat either, so want to get her inside as quick as poss, she must be cold outside!
I did tell the center 2 was fine, but they didnt have any other singles anyway.

ah okies well if when shes old enough you can neuter her maybe you can get her a friend in the future ^_^

okikokikate
19-01-2012, 10:00 PM
Yeah, if she seems like she wants a friend then she shall have one :)

okikokikate
20-01-2012, 08:34 AM
How should her introduce her into my home?