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dazb
30-07-2011, 05:14 PM
hi first time post on this site. i recently brought 2 baby lionheads from a breeder who said they were 6 and a half weeks old 2 little boys. that was six dayss ago they have only been feed pellets and hay and have plenty of water. yesterday(friday 29th) while i was at work my wife rang to say that dominoe had a large clump of soft poo all over his backside and really smealt. so we took him straight to the vets where they said it may be a tummy bug or something like that and gave us some medicine and liquid fibre and some probiotic for there water.this was at about 4oclock yesterday. so today i go to work get back and the wife says dominoe is looking much better that he had his medicine and loved it. so now to the point at about 3 oclock today my daughter comes in and says theres something wrong with him when i go to look he is lying on floor on his back looking up i go to pick him up and he just rolled over and over like he couldnt stand up so .so i got him inside in a soft blanket and he a large glump of smelly poo betwwen his legs and he kept his head arched right back. so onto emergency vets. half way there checked in the box he was in and he was dead. buried him in our garden about hour ago.kids were crying wife was crying i was upset so what went wrong and will jet his brother who has shown no signs of illness be ok

Joanne Jenkinson
30-07-2011, 05:19 PM
I have no advice am afraid just wantedto say sorry for your loss.

dazb
30-07-2011, 05:23 PM
thank you he was a lovely little bunny i dont believe we didnt anything wrong as jet appears fine was trying to work out what could have happened to him

steph182
30-07-2011, 05:26 PM
Sadly with a breeder selling a bunny too young, it can be any number of things :(
I'm sorry for the loss of your bunny

catxx
30-07-2011, 05:27 PM
RIP little bunny :(

Sadly babies under 12 weeks are very very fragile :( it sounds like it could have been Mucoid Enteritis, this can be triggered merely by the shock of being in a new home.
http://www.threelittleladiesrabbitry.com/mucoidenteritis.php

funnybunnyabc
30-07-2011, 05:29 PM
Sorry, I don't know :( But I'm very sorry for your loss xx

dazb
30-07-2011, 05:32 PM
what sould i do about jet now will he be ok by himself dont want lose him to

Sky-O
30-07-2011, 05:49 PM
I'm very sorry for your loss.

Right now you need to focus on Jet. You were rehomed too babies far too young and they were/are very at risk. You should not bring another rabbit into your home because you don't know why Domino died.

Just focus on Jet, keep him eating and drinking and stable. There is a very high chance he will get ill as well and any sign that he does, he needs to go straight to a vet. I'm unsure though, from what you said, how reliable your vet is with treating rabbits, so it might be worth asking for recommendations from the forum (if you're in the UK) for good vets in your area so you know that whoever you see will provide good care.

Babsie
30-07-2011, 05:55 PM
This is very sad. They should never have been re-homed to you at such a young age - but you weren't to know that - and I do hope your other bunny survives. You need to keep a very close eye on him.

dazb
30-07-2011, 06:07 PM
im from walsall near birmingham. what age would you normally buy a rabbit from. we got no intention of getting another bunny yet. just really worried about about jet now

steph182
30-07-2011, 06:09 PM
im from walsall near birmingham. what age would you normally buy a rabbit from. we got no intention of getting another bunny yet. just really worried about about jet now

Rabbits shouldn't leave their first home until they are at least 8 weeks. Although the majority of us would recommend rescues rather than going to breeders/petshops.

I hope Jet stays healthy :)

Sky-O
30-07-2011, 06:09 PM
A rabbit shouldn't be rehomed until 8 weeks minimum and older if possible.

I think you need to let the breeder know (if you haven't already) because if it is something highly contagious then she might stand a chance at helping her bunnies if she moves as soon as she sees any signs.

There is an RSPCA Walsall Branch on here.

You could try posting a thread in the Rabbit Chat forum called 'Good Rabbit Vet needed near Walsall please' and hopefully you will get some useful replies :)

Captain Helen
30-07-2011, 06:12 PM
I'm so sorry for your loss :( Sending lots of vibes for Jet xx

jackiestone
30-07-2011, 06:13 PM
so sorry for your sad loss,it is horrible to see your family upset,you must let the breeder know what has happened too,sorry :cry:

dazb
30-07-2011, 06:19 PM
thank you all for your advice this seems like a great forum. i should say that jet is being kept in an outdoor hutch with combined run. he has been lively all the time we have had him and is currently showing no signs of illness. should i be handling him as much as i can or should i leave him to get used to being by himself .we usually had them out twice a day for petting for about 20mins each time

Sky-O
30-07-2011, 06:22 PM
If he is comfortable with you interacting with him, then go for it. He will likely get lonely now he doesn't have a friend. You can try using lots of toys to help keep him busy. If he doesn't chew, then a cuddly toy to snuggle with would be a good idea. Also, you can buy a heat pad called a 'snugglesafe' and it might be worthwhile getting one and heating it so it is warm and giving him that to sit on and with.

Another option, depending on your household, would be to move him inside so he can have more human interaction. At this time of year though, you would be looking at having him in until next spring because the nights will start to get too cold by the time he could move out again (which would normally be once he has a friend).

dazb
30-07-2011, 08:15 PM
ok going to be on bunny watch now for next few weeks i just really dont want to lose another one

Hoppla
31-07-2011, 11:15 AM
Like already said way too young to be of breast milk.

It's vital for a bunny to stay at least 8 weeks on breast milk, ideally 10 weeks.

Bunnies are very good at hiding any symptoms, as their survival in the wild depends on it.

Jet will now need a lot of love from you, but without hassling him.
Let him come to you. Talk to him gently.
Stroke him while he is on the ground, give him nose rubs while his feet are firmly on the ground.
He needs to feel loved and secure as bunnies do not cope well at all with stress.

Do not pick him up! (unless absolutely necessary to examine him).
To be picked up means for a bunny that it has been caught by a Bird of Prey, Fox etc. and that he is about to be killed. Hence being picked up causes a tremendous amount of stress to a bunny.
Also pls explain to your girls that they cannot pick the bunny up, but show them how to stroke the bunny on the ground.
Generally bunnies find it relaxing if you gently and very slowly stroke them along the back starting from the head (hope that makes sense)

If a bunny enjoys being stroked by you, it will gently grind it's teeth (we call it bunny purrs)
Once he purrs while you are stroking him, you know you are doing it right.

You need to watch him very closely for any change in behaviour.
Often a sick bunny will show no symptoms until it's too late, however you will see tiny changes in behaviour.

Like already said you need him checked by a bunny savvy vet as a matter of urgency (unfortunately there are only very few bunny savvy vets).
His poo needs to be sent off to a laboratory to make the correct diagnosis and prescribe the correct meds.

I am not a vet and my recommendations regarding feeding him are just based on my own experiences with rabbits.

If anybody else here could pls correct me if my recommendations are not correct

You also need to be careful with what you feed him, no sudden change in diet, no bunny ready mixed food (I would also only give very few pellets as they contain too much starch which causes yeast infection, which can cause bloat).

Do not ever give him Cow's Milk. No sweets ever!

No fresh greens (until you have been given the go ahead by a vet), no fruits at this age.

I would only feed very high quality hay and maybe some very highly diluted camomile and fennel tea (but he will need other supplements from the vets such as Bio Lapis and probably some multi vits, apart from the proper meds he will need after being properly diagnosed).

Once he has got the all clear from the vets and is stable you can slowly introduce other vegetables.

keep him out of the heat as bunnies do not tolerate heat well.

I would also always have Infacol for small babies ready (about 2.99 from any big supermarket). Bloat kills bunnies within hours, as bunnies cannot get rid of bloat.

Watch him super carefully, if he stops eating it's an emergency!

Ok, this may all sound super complicated, but once you know your bunny you will be able to interpret his behaviour.
Bunnies are amazing animals and being a bunny owner is very rewarding. they are super intelligent and will never stop to amaze you.

My 8,5 year old bunny was a super sick 5wk old baby when I got him and the first 4 wks were touch and go. Every morning during this time I expected to wake up to a dead bunny baby.
He pulled through and it was so worth the effort.

I have always been a cat and dog lover, but I would now never have any other animal than a bunny.

Liquorice
31-07-2011, 11:24 AM
hi first time post on this site. i recently brought 2 baby lionheads from a breeder who said they were 6 and a half weeks old 2 little boys. that was six dayss ago they have only been feed pellets and hay and have plenty of water. yesterday(friday 29th) while i was at work my wife rang to say that dominoe had a large clump of soft poo all over his backside and really smealt. so we took him straight to the vets where they said it may be a tummy bug or something like that and gave us some medicine and liquid fibre and some probiotic for there water.this was at about 4oclock yesterday. so today i go to work get back and the wife says dominoe is looking much better that he had his medicine and loved it. so now to the point at about 3 oclock today my daughter comes in and says theres something wrong with him when i go to look he is lying on floor on his back looking up i go to pick him up and he just rolled over and over like he couldnt stand up so .so i got him inside in a soft blanket and he a large glump of smelly poo betwwen his legs and he kept his head arched right back. so onto emergency vets. half way there checked in the box he was in and he was dead. buried him in our garden about hour ago.kids were crying wife was crying i was upset so what went wrong and will jet his brother who has shown no signs of illness be ok


They were to young to be brought home I got my bunny at 10 weeeks an minimum is around 8-10 weeks and sorry for your loss

csklug00
07-08-2011, 05:39 AM
I'm so sorry for your lose. I have children of my own and know how hard a pet's death can be. I don't know your religous beliefs... but I tell my children that when one of our pets dies, they are no longer in pain and are in bunny heaven. We believe God has a special place for our animals since he gave them to comfort us. We also plant a special plant and set a bunny statue in remembrance of our beloved pet in our backyard. I hope with all my heart Jet will be O.K. Focus on him and let the children help if they are old enough. This is a very supportive and great site to be a part of. Please let us know what happens. Your family and Jet are in my families' prayers tonight.

troublesomesmum
07-08-2011, 01:17 PM
Im so sorry for your loss.:cry:

About 2 1/2 years ago i had a rabbit with similar problems. To cut a very long story short, we took on 3 buns who had been dumped on my local pet shop aged just 5 weeks, we took them aged 6 weeks. Then first one had the runny poos etc the same as yours, off to vets, but he died that night. Second one had a fit and although vets gave drip and did everythign they could, she died. We had her sent off for a post-mortum as i still had one left, and i had 2 older buns.

After the results finally came back we found out the causes was the stress of being so young and moved from their mum and then to mine within a week had upset their digestive system and buns go downhill so quick, the gut bacteria and other tests suggested this anyway.

Now for Jet- he may get ill, he may not. If he does, this is what we did for my 3rd baby bun. At this point we didnt know the results from the post mortum, so she got treated in general for a virus. Some of the treatment was to help her get better (eg anitbiotics), some was to keep her going (eg food and water). She was kept inside for 2 months- first month out of needing to, 2nd as i wanted to keep an eye on her.

1) Syringe feed her excel junior and dwarf pellets with biolapis mixed in, mushed up using hot water and allowed to cool. We did small amounts every 30 mins. This was to give her food and energy, and biolapis to help stop dehydration etc.
2) Every 30 mins after this, we gave fibreplex (for probitocis and fibre), antibiotics (for treatment), and ready mixed ribena (for energy)- the vet said itll give her energy and help her going- obviously only use this in emergencies as its bad for them!
3) We also gave some veg baby food as recommened by the vet twice a day- again for energy.
4) We gave some infacol as she got bloated, and had to do tummy rubs which the vet showed us how, to help get her guts going.
5) She laid on a hot water bottle- with cover and blanket, as the warmth helps tummy movements and kept her warm- so less energy used on that.
6) Encourage eating, we put fresh pellets and veg near her and put some veg near her mouth to encourage her. She eventually started nibbling after 8 days.
7) She had an injection every 2nd day, antibiotics and something to help with hydration.

After 8 days she was showing some signs of recovery- poos started after 5 days, she started nibbling parsely and watercress by day 8. However, she constantly grinded her teeth, and at first the vet didnt want to give pain relief fearing it may shut her guts down, but she gave her pain relief after i asked- i believe this was the final trigger to encourage her to get better as we got home and she ate pellets! It took a further 2 weeks for her to have completely normal poos and eating habits, and now shes 2 1/2 and not a problem since.

DO NOT get another rabbit at the moment, it could be contagious. My vet gave me the disinfectant they use to clean out everywhere the buns had been-it kills viruses etc, so i would recommend doing this just incase, even if Jet seems fine. My vet said wait at least 3 months before even thinking of getting a new bun. By this time, you could have Jet neutored and get him a girlfriend from a rescue.

Good luck looking after Jet either way:love:

kaths101
07-08-2011, 01:34 PM
Im sorry to hear about your loss, how very sad for your family. Its not your fault, it is the breeder - all too common im afraid!
All I would say is maybe watch the consumption of grass with your little one as too much can cause tummy upsets..also you might want to think about getting him a friend once hes been neutered, vacc'd etc which wouldnt be for a few weeks yet!

Im glad you have found this forum (though unfortunetly through sad circumstances) - its so helpful and informative - so hope you stick with us :wave:

hurricanhoney
07-08-2011, 01:44 PM
So sorry :(

dazb
13-08-2011, 05:59 PM
hi all thanks for all the support. so heres the update,at the moment jet is still showing no signs of illness his weight is going up last saturday he wighed 688 grams today he weighed 871 grams and his now nearly 10 weeks trying to work out how to upload a photo so you can all see him the little rascal

pepperpot
13-08-2011, 06:33 PM
so sorry for the sad loss of baby bun Domino but glad to hear that Jet is making progress.

dazb
21-08-2011, 01:30 PM
hi all just a quick update jet is still going from strength to strength and is showing no signs of illness he is now around 11 weeks old and weighs 1029 grams.waiting to get him neautred and have his injections then were thinking of getting him a friend. in the mean time his getting plenty of attention off us all and we are going to make a grass box to go in his run . how old does he need to be to have this in there

nursecroft
21-08-2011, 01:40 PM
hi all just a quick update jet is still going from strength to strength and is showing no signs of illness he is now around 11 weeks old and weighs 1029 grams.waiting to get him neautred and have his injections then were thinking of getting him a friend. in the mean time his getting plenty of attention off us all and we are going to make a grass box to go in his run . how old does he need to be to have this in there

Hiya :wave:

Glad Jet is doing so well :) well done. He's can have grass now, the box sounds good. I'd get his jabs done asap now, he'll need myxi and vhd they have to be given two weeks apart. Vets will neuter when his bits have dropped and he is mature enough, this is normally from 12 weeks onwards. If it were me i'd get hjis jabs done over the next couple of weeks then get him neutered next month once he's recovered from them.

How big is your hutch/run? Just thinking he'll be getting bigger and be nice if you do get him a spayed girly friend from a rescue :D there are lots of young buns in rescues that would love a nice home :wave:

dazb
21-08-2011, 05:42 PM
the run is about 3ft wide x 5ft long and 2ft high. the hutch sits on top at one end which he uses mainly for sleeping in that measures about 2ft x 2ft x 3ft long. in the bottom of the hutch is a hole to a ramp which goes to the run . would this be big enough for 2 rabbits. like i say the hutch and run are combined ( i built it all myself) so the run has constant access. jet is a lionhead so id be looking for a similar sized friend to go with him.