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Ant powder
- Thread starter rachylou
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prettylupin
Wise Old Thumper
Why Rachylou? What has happened? :wave:
It is an INSECTICIDE so it kills insects. Rabbits are not insects but some stuff can be quite nasty. Do you want to use some or have you used some? :wave:
It is an INSECTICIDE so it kills insects. Rabbits are not insects but some stuff can be quite nasty. Do you want to use some or have you used some? :wave:
lousilverfox
Mama Doe
Im pretty sure that your buns will be safe enough :wave:
prettylupin
Wise Old Thumper
Okay well your mum put it on the ground and didn't shake it in the air as that is not how you apply it so it is VERY unlikely it could possibly have blown on to her clothes as i'm sure your mum is a very careful lady.
Most ant powders are neurotoxins SPECIFICALLY developed for INSECTS and therefore will NOT HAVE THE SAME EFFECTS ON MAMMALS. Ants are teeny tiny and need a substantial amount to affect them. Just think about how big your bunnies are in comparison - and therefore even if some powder got in your bag it would NO WHERE NEAR BE ENOUGH to cause ANY PROBLEMS AT ALL WITH YOUR BUNNIES. Just make sure they don't go hopping around on the same spots your mum has treated until there has been some rain.
For future ant treatmen perhaps you could ask your mum to use this stuff called DE - Diatomaceous Earth. It is made from crushed seashells (Diatoms) and works by physical action not chemical (like all other ant powders). It is TOTALLY safe around kids and pets and can even be put on larger animals fur coats to reduce ticks/lice so is very safe.
Most ant powders are neurotoxins SPECIFICALLY developed for INSECTS and therefore will NOT HAVE THE SAME EFFECTS ON MAMMALS. Ants are teeny tiny and need a substantial amount to affect them. Just think about how big your bunnies are in comparison - and therefore even if some powder got in your bag it would NO WHERE NEAR BE ENOUGH to cause ANY PROBLEMS AT ALL WITH YOUR BUNNIES. Just make sure they don't go hopping around on the same spots your mum has treated until there has been some rain.
For future ant treatmen perhaps you could ask your mum to use this stuff called DE - Diatomaceous Earth. It is made from crushed seashells (Diatoms) and works by physical action not chemical (like all other ant powders). It is TOTALLY safe around kids and pets and can even be put on larger animals fur coats to reduce ticks/lice so is very safe.
rachylou
Warren Veteran
Okay well your mum put it on the ground and didn't shake it in the air as that is not how you apply it so it is VERY unlikely it could possibly have blown on to her clothes as i'm sure your mum is a very careful lady.
Most ant powders are neurotoxins SPECIFICALLY developed for INSECTS and therefore will NOT HAVE THE SAME EFFECTS ON MAMMALS. Ants are teeny tiny and need a substantial amount to affect them. Just think about how big your bunnies are in comparison - and therefore even if some powder got in your bag it would NO WHERE NEAR BE ENOUGH to cause ANY PROBLEMS AT ALL WITH YOUR BUNNIES. Just make sure they don't go hopping around on the same spots your mum has treated until there has been some rain.
For future ant treatmen perhaps you could ask your mum to use this stuff called DE - Diatomaceous Earth. It is made from crushed seashells (Diatoms) and works by physical action not chemical (like all other ant powders). It is TOTALLY safe around kids and pets and can even be put on larger animals fur coats to reduce ticks/lice so is very safe.
Oooh will do! Thankyou Prettylupin!!
As they dont go outside, could there be any problem for them if there was the smallest amount of dust from the powder that they came in to contact with?
prettylupin
Wise Old Thumper
Okay well your mum put it on the ground and didn't shake it in the air as that is not how you apply it so it is VERY unlikely it could possibly have blown on to her clothes as i'm sure your mum is a very careful lady.
Most ant powders are neurotoxins SPECIFICALLY developed for INSECTS and therefore will NOT HAVE THE SAME EFFECTS ON MAMMALS. Ants are teeny tiny and need a substantial amount to affect them. Just think about how big your bunnies are in comparison - and therefore even if some powder got in your bag it would NO WHERE NEAR BE ENOUGH to cause ANY PROBLEMS AT ALL WITH YOUR BUNNIES. Just make sure they don't go hopping around on the same spots your mum has treated until there has been some rain.
For future ant treatmen perhaps you could ask your mum to use this stuff called DE - Diatomaceous Earth. It is made from crushed seashells (Diatoms) and works by physical action not chemical (like all other ant powders). It is TOTALLY safe around kids and pets and can even be put on larger animals fur coats to reduce ticks/lice so is very safe.
Oooh will do! Thankyou Prettylupin!!
As they dont go outside, could there be any problem for them if there was the smallest amount of dust from the powder that they came in to contact with?
They would need to ingest a certain amount I think so no, am certain they would be fine.
Jack's-Jane
Wise Old Thumper
Jack's-Jane
Wise Old Thumper
It would need to be a lot.
Rach, this is just another trap the OCD is setting for you. Try not to allow the intrusive thoughts about possible sources of contamination take control.
Does your Therapist suggest any distraction techniques ?
rachylou
Warren Veteran
Are you sure? So any residue would not be enough to harm them?
I am not seeing a therapist at the moment, I had to cut ties with my last one as she did not understand how important Jimby and Cookie are to me and because I canceled an appointment due to Jimby and Cookie needing me and she spent our hour session having a go at me and putting me down!
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Kermit
Wise Old Thumper
I have used ant powder outside my house loads of times. The closest place to the bunnies is the front door. This is about 10 steps away between the bunnies and the ant powder and people are walking in and out.
I have been the one putting down the ant powder and i have not changed clothes or anything like that after coming indoors.
My two have always been fine with it.
The only way it would have an effect is if you were using it a lot in their direct vicinity.
I have been the one putting down the ant powder and i have not changed clothes or anything like that after coming indoors.
My two have always been fine with it.
The only way it would have an effect is if you were using it a lot in their direct vicinity.
rachylou
Warren Veteran
The ants are coming in Mum has said she wants to put powder down but I have tried to explain to her my concerns and the fact that we had to move out of our last home because of poison, does she want us to move out?
She said no but she wants the ants out. So as a compramise for now the area they have been seen has been covered in duck tape and I am going on a hunt for something that will kill the ants but not harm my babies.
Mum has said she wants to put powder down but I have tried to explain to her my concerns and the fact that we had to move out of our last home because of poison, does she want us to move out?She said no but she wants the ants out. So as a compramise for now the area they have been seen has been covered in duck tape and I am going on a hunt for something that will kill the ants but not harm my babies.
Jenova
Wise Old Thumper
If the rabbits are not in the same room as the ant powder they will be fine. And if it's outside and they are inside they will definitely be fine. :wave:
Such small amounts that get in the air or on clothes will have no effect on them otherwise they wouldn't let people use it.
One think I have used inside is ant bait boxes. You can get them from Wilkinson's and they are a little box with a few holes in. The ants are attracted to it and take the jelly inside back to their nest but it's poisonous and kills all the ants. I've used this inside when my rabbits were inside in another room. My rabbits were in my bedroom and we had two bait boxes downstairs. When the ants were sorted the bait boxes were thrown away and the bunnies could come downstairs again.
I think more than OCD it sounds like anxiety. You think about all the possible outcomes of everything and even if they're so unlikely they can't happen you think they will. But you do a great job looking after your bunnies and they are very safe. It was bad of the therapist to talk down to you. Have you spoken to the organisation she came from? I did this when I didn't get on with a counsellor and they arranged for me to see another one who was so much nicer. I know a member on here sees a therapist who thinks that their bunnies are wonderful. :wave:
Such small amounts that get in the air or on clothes will have no effect on them otherwise they wouldn't let people use it.
One think I have used inside is ant bait boxes. You can get them from Wilkinson's and they are a little box with a few holes in. The ants are attracted to it and take the jelly inside back to their nest but it's poisonous and kills all the ants. I've used this inside when my rabbits were inside in another room. My rabbits were in my bedroom and we had two bait boxes downstairs. When the ants were sorted the bait boxes were thrown away and the bunnies could come downstairs again.
I think more than OCD it sounds like anxiety. You think about all the possible outcomes of everything and even if they're so unlikely they can't happen you think they will. But you do a great job looking after your bunnies and they are very safe. It was bad of the therapist to talk down to you. Have you spoken to the organisation she came from? I did this when I didn't get on with a counsellor and they arranged for me to see another one who was so much nicer. I know a member on here sees a therapist who thinks that their bunnies are wonderful. :wave:
helgalush
Wise Old Thumper
Rach, I agree with what everyone else has said.
I have suffered from these obsessive and compulsive thoughts, which are irrational but no much how you try to rationalise it sometimes you have to have that outside definitive answer that there is nothing to worry about.
In time and with the right therapy, you can learn to rationalise stuff for yourself and eventually trust your own judgement so that you dont need to seek reassurance from other people so much. I've come a long way with mine but I still get them every so often and I do sympathise because it takes up so much energy when you can't get straight in your own head at all.
I have suffered from these obsessive and compulsive thoughts, which are irrational but no much how you try to rationalise it sometimes you have to have that outside definitive answer that there is nothing to worry about.
In time and with the right therapy, you can learn to rationalise stuff for yourself and eventually trust your own judgement so that you dont need to seek reassurance from other people so much. I've come a long way with mine but I still get them every so often and I do sympathise because it takes up so much energy when you can't get straight in your own head at all.
Jack's-Jane
Wise Old Thumper
I really dont know what more we can say. I am wondering if our responses are actually 'feeding' your OCD now ..............................
