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thanks guys, its the bun my aunt got from a pet shop .. a horrible pet shop tbh , & we thought he had teeth probs, but turns out his teeth aren't as bad as we thought, though will probs need done at some point in the future .. but he did have an infection, snuffles I was told .. so is on anti-b's atm which my OH has been going up everyday to do .. as I can't make it up the 12 flights of stairs to her house ..