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GrahamL
02-03-2011, 11:57 AM
...who wont touch something if its 'not right'?

:?

Biscuit has had his first septrin today and it was a nitemare. He ran away from the syringe, then when i finally had to corner him (i felt awful :() i managed to get it into his mouth but he really struggled and it went everywhere, but he groomed himself and its all gone so i assume it all went in.

I know i have to be careful that he doesnt aspirate it, but he HATES being medicated :(

I can try crunchies, basil etc, but he wont then eat the treats he normally loves if they are laced, i remember from when he had baytril post neuter.

What do i do?! RU Wisdom please.

Gemmapookie
02-03-2011, 12:01 PM
My fail safe is to sandwich the meds between 2 thin slices of banana. Its the only thing Mimi will eat with meds on/in :wave:

steph182
02-03-2011, 12:01 PM
You're gonna have to force it down him :(
I find the best position is to kneel up with the bunny between your legs and just squirt it down as quick as you can. When I perfected it with Charlie it only took me a few seconds to get it down him and then I'd give him treats as a reward for it

GrahamL
02-03-2011, 12:01 PM
My fail safe is to sandwich the meds between 2 thin slices of banana. Its the only thing Mimi will eat with meds on/in :wave:

I'll try nana, but i bet he smells the septrin and ignores it, even though nana is his fave :(

GrahamL
02-03-2011, 12:03 PM
You're gonna have to force it down him :(
I find the best position is to kneel up with the bunny between your legs and just squirt it down as quick as you can. When I perfected it with Charlie it only took me a few seconds to get it down him and then I'd give him treats as a reward for it

i would do this, but handling Biscuit is a NO GO area. I will lose each limb, i guarantee it :(

I just want to give him his meds to make him better :(

yvette
02-03-2011, 12:04 PM
Bunny Burritto and syringe.Sorry youre having such a rough time, but if these meds are gonna do any good then its force feed time if youve tried everything else.

steph182
02-03-2011, 12:04 PM
i would do this, but handling Biscuit is a NO GO area. I will lose each limb, i guarantee it :(

I just want to give him his meds to make him better :(

Not so easy then!
I wonder if something wet would fool him, like porridge?
He wouldn't be able to guess it was there from the texture then?

paulinejoe
02-03-2011, 12:10 PM
As the bunny mummy of a kung-fu bun myself, there's only one thing for it - a bunny burrito...

Get a big bath towel (bigger the better) put it on the floor, pop bun on it, then flip the back end over their bum then one side over the top then the other side over the first, making sure it goes right round underneath (by now you will be able to pick them up as all legs in towel) then you've got 3 options:

Pop the burrito on a table or worktop (they tend to freeze for a minute, bit like being at the vets)

Tuck them under your arm while you are kneeling down

Straddle them with your ankles crossed behind their bum so they can't reverse and escape)

As much as it feels horrible to do, it is for their own benefit, so you can't muck about, i've tried being all nicey nicey and it just prolongs the agony for the pair of you, it just needs getting down them, and while they will stamp and be huffy for a minte or two if you follow up with a noserub a kiss and a treat they are soon back to their normal selves ;)

clutterydrawer
02-03-2011, 12:11 PM
Drop a blanket/towel over him, wrap him up while he's still wondering what the flip happened, and syringe it directly into the corner of his mouth. i know it sounds harsh but it's for his own good.

Or, you could slit open a raisin and squirt the abx inside it. I tried this with my awkward chinchilla Tim but he got wise quickly :roll: and I had to resort to the blanket trick.

Blackberry & Co
02-03-2011, 12:19 PM
Yep - bunny burrito here every time!

http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy6/BlackberryBunny/Bunnies%20Oct%202010/BunniesBlackieondrugsOct2010005.jpg

http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy6/BlackberryBunny/Bunnies%20Oct%202010/BunniesBlackieondrugsOct2010004.jpg

http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy6/BlackberryBunny/Bunnies%20Oct%202010/BunniesOct2010001-1.jpg

paulinejoe
02-03-2011, 12:26 PM
Yep - bunny burrito here every time!

http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy6/BlackberryBunny/Bunnies%20Oct%202010/BunniesBlackieondrugsOct2010005.jpg

http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy6/BlackberryBunny/Bunnies%20Oct%202010/BunniesBlackieondrugsOct2010004.jpg

http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy6/BlackberryBunny/Bunnies%20Oct%202010/BunniesOct2010001-1.jpg


Hmmmm, that Burrito looks good enought to eat :lol::love::lol:

ripminnie
02-03-2011, 12:26 PM
It's awful isn't it? :( I had to get my OH to pin Olly down while I opened stuck the syringe in his mouth and squirted the Zithromax in, he hated it :( we felt horrible doing it to him and my OH was not the best at holding him down, he escaped frequently :( good luck!

Gem
02-03-2011, 12:28 PM
Porridge everytime

Rhianna
02-03-2011, 12:33 PM
It's not very healthy but what about a tiny piece of wholemeal bread? I've found that sometimes works.

I must admit that when I have a bun or cat who is difficult to medicate orally I have asked the vet to draw me up some syringes and I have injected the meds. I find that a lot easier.

I've now bought a sort of bag thing from the vet which they use and I am hoping to use that next time I have to give meds by mouth. You put the bunny (or cat) inside the bag and then open the relevant zip part according to the part of the animal you want to get to. I guess it's like a bunny burrito - but more secure. I found my buns wriggled out of one of those as I am on my own so have to hold and medicate.

Good luck, Gray.

ripminnie
02-03-2011, 12:39 PM
It's not very healthy but what about a tiny piece of wholemeal bread? I've found that sometimes works.

I must admit that when I have a bun or cat who is difficult to medicate orally I have asked the vet to draw me up some syringes and I have injected the meds. I find that a lot easier.

I've now bought a sort of bag thing from the vet which they use and I am hoping to use that next time I have to give meds by mouth. You put the bunny (or cat) inside the bag and then open the relevant zip part according to the part of the animal you want to get to. I guess it's like a bunny burrito - but more secure. I found my buns wriggled out of one of those as I am on my own so have to hold and medicate.

Good luck, Gray.

I use wholemeal bread for baytril, it gets gobbled up instantly! :lol: but its no good for larger quantities, ie. I couldn't put zithromax in it cos had to give a whole 1ml, Would've needed a bigger piece of bread which wouldn't be good!

FudgeTort
02-03-2011, 12:39 PM
I guess you don't have the paediatric septrin then? My two loved this stuff and went just as mad for it as they would pellets, its banana flavour.

I second the bunny burrito technique.

Amy104
02-03-2011, 12:48 PM
Septrin smells and supposedly tastes like bananna anyway so I'm thinking hiding it in there might be the way to go. Hopefully he won't suss. Bluebell loved the septrin, he kept trying to eat the syringe. :lol:

GrahamL
02-03-2011, 12:51 PM
I know, thats why Ginger loved it, but Biscuit still hated the idea and just ran off.

Alibunmum
02-03-2011, 12:53 PM
My way of doing it is spearing a small bit of banana on the end of the syringe. I let them eat it a few times then when they are taking the banana I squirt it into their mouth. I then give them a couple of bits with no med so it will work the next time.

I had a bun on Baytril long-term and i could give it without picking them up. The minute the syringe appeared they were straight over for the banana.

Sky-O
02-03-2011, 12:54 PM
Have you tried basil? that was the only way I could get Autumn to take it, even though he pulled faces and stuff.

MopsyMops =]
02-03-2011, 12:54 PM
Porridge sounds like a good idea to me! :D

GrahamL
02-03-2011, 12:56 PM
Going to try a combination of things over the next couple of days, as its daily anyway, so we have basil, we have nana, we have bread and we have FC's. Lets see eh? lol

Alibunmum
02-03-2011, 12:58 PM
Hope you have success somehow!!:?

Joh619
02-03-2011, 01:39 PM
For Walter we used to put it on a little bit of bread and wrap that in a basil leaf and we never had a problem. I think he secretly quite liked it though.

allie1904
02-03-2011, 01:44 PM
I can get bisolvon into smudge fine, dissolve it on some brocolli and he gobbles it up.

but..

As soon as the baytril goes onto something he knows it! I'm not sure if it's the smell or what but he wont touch it.

We then have to try syringing it but no luck, it ends up everywhere but his mouth.

So today, we are on a stronger ABX and i'm injecting him. Vet taught me the other day and hopefully it will won't be as stressful for him as chasing him with a syringe.

parsnipbun
02-03-2011, 01:53 PM
Did you know there are two different flavours of Septrin? There is supposedly banana flavour (yukk - smells like bubblegum) and there is a sort of fennel/aniseed flavour.

I find mine love the aniseed flavour.

It is a different strength so you need a different dosage but it really does go in SO much easier!!!

Ask your vet!

Roseberry
02-03-2011, 02:16 PM
Does Biscuit like apple or pineapple juice? Barney likes apple (the cloudy kind), and I give him a few mls is a syringe now and then as a treat. I started this when he was on Baytril and he willingly drinks from it now and its not scary. The more diluted the meds are with juice the better! Before I managed this though i used to get him on my chest, bring my knees up so he is laying on them and then lean him back holding onto his paws so he cant twist. When he is on his back he likes to have his back paws up on my chest and then I hold his front ones. You can just drip the liquid onto their lips/tongue slowly and they should lick it off, if you go slowly they wont get it down the wrong hole. I have been practicing this with Flopsy too and he is a similar size to Biscuit and Ginger, I just have to hold onto his feet more firmly. I dont know if this will help but good luck!