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- Thread starter Elena
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Oh dear, is it that bad? I didnt know that 
I tried to get Barney to do it the other day so I could examine his neuter wound/scar as noone is here to help me and I get kicked in the face... why do they get so scared?
The vet tries to do it to barney every time so he can have a look at his privates or feet but he says hes never met a rabbit like barney that it doesnt work on :? he just doesnt trance.
I tried to get Barney to do it the other day so I could examine his neuter wound/scar as noone is here to help me and I get kicked in the face... why do they get so scared?The vet tries to do it to barney every time so he can have a look at his privates or feet but he says hes never met a rabbit like barney that it doesnt work on :? he just doesnt trance.
:wave: Please explain ive never heard about this.
Evangeline
Warren Veteran
I saw this, I got very angry at it. I hate QI I really do full of information yet doesn't ever mention the risks
I hate QI I really do full of information yet doesn't ever mention the risks
TeflonsShadow
Wise Old Thumper
I think they get stressed when tranced because they are prey animals..... its been shown their heart rate increased and various suchlike..... associated with stress.
Elena
Wise Old Thumper
It's a fear response. I don't know all the in's and out's - maybe someone else can explain.
Yeah I thought that too. I think she said cos they're grumpy :roll: Well considering most are in tiny cages they would be wouldn't they :roll:
Santa
Wise Old Thumper
The technical name for trancing is 'tonic immobility' and it is thought to be a fear reaction: the bunny basically 'plays dead' in the hope that whatever animal has hold of it will loosen its grip and then it can flip out of the trance and run off.
Dr Anne McBride has done some research on this and identified that rabbits which have been tranced have significantly elevated levels of the stress hormone cortisol in their bloodstream during and for up to half an hour after trancing - showing that even if the rabbits seem relaxed in that position, they actually aren't
Of course there is the odd occasion where a quick trance may be the preferable option, for instance to look at a wound on the underside, but I wouldn't advise doing it for the sake of it or because you think the bunny likes it, because the research suggests that in spite of looks, they don't
TeflonsShadow
Wise Old Thumper
The technical name for trancing is 'tonic immobility' and it is thought to be a fear reaction: the bunny basically 'plays dead' in the hope that whatever animal has hold of it will loosen its grip and then it can flip out of the trance and run off.
Dr Anne McBride has done some research on this and identified that rabbits which have been tranced have significantly elevated levels of the stress hormone cortisol in their bloodstream during and for up to half an hour after trancing - showing that even if the rabbits seem relaxed in that position, they actually aren't
Of course there is the odd occasion where a quick trance may be the preferable option, for instance to look at a wound on the underside, but I wouldn't advise doing it for the sake of it or because you think the bunny likes it, because the research suggests that in spite of looks, they don't
Tonic immobility happens to sharks too, but it great care is taken when it is done because sometimes they dont come out of it
So is my vet right in saying Barney doesnt trance? He just goes mental when he tries to put him in it and refuses to stay still, flipping and kicking all over the place. Or is my vet just doing it wrong? Hes not an exotic vet but he said he looked after the rabbits at uni, so I assume he has experience.
Elena
Wise Old Thumper
Tonic immobility happens to sharks too, but it great care is taken when it is done because sometimes they dont come out of it
Yeah they mentioned sharks on Qi too, apparently dolphins flip them over sometimes to kill them :shock:
TeflonsShadow
Wise Old Thumper
And orcas!!! And orca taking on a great white!! and then it only ate the great whites liver anyways! :shock:
Santa
Wise Old Thumper
Without seeing it, it's impossible for anyone of us to say really! Some bunnies are certainly easier to trance than others so it's perfectly possible that he just doesn't tolerate being flipped on his back so never quite gets to the trance-like state. Bunnies haven't read the text book so they invariably don't always do what we expect them to :lol:
