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Hugo's There
11-11-2010, 06:46 PM
to find a vet who is willing to prescribe antibiotics other than baytril/septrin :?

Our usual vet used to use zithromax, metronidazole and engemycin as well as ceporex. But now they only seem to give me baytril or septrin, except for one vet who I know will prescribe ceporex. There reasoning is that drug regulations have been tightened a lot. Its also why they wont give me a prescription for more than one bottle of metacam at a time despite using 2 bottles a month :(

Toby and Nancy were taken to a new vet who specialises in rabbits and has done numerous rabbit courses. Her knowledge and skill is brilliant, the hospital has fantastic facilities day and night and they very good with pain relief etc. But they also don;t want to prescribe anything other than baytril, although they do prescribe extremely high doses.

I am finding it a little frustrating and was wondering if others are having the same problem :?

Jack's-Jane
11-11-2010, 07:29 PM
http://veterinaryrecord.bmj.com/content/167/2/36.full

http://www.bsava.com/Advice/BSAVAGuidetotheUseofVeterinaryMedicines/Prescribingcascadeandofflabeluse/tabid/360/Default.aspx

http://www.bva.co.uk/public/documents/BVA_Antimicrobials_Poster.PDF

Hugo's There
11-11-2010, 07:31 PM
Thanks but I think my head will explode if I attempt to read those :lol:

The Duchess
11-11-2010, 07:38 PM
I think we're very lucky with Ivan Liz, as he is happy currently (possibly only with those of us he knows very well) to try all manner of antibiotics that might help. I have a boarding client at the moment whose bun has to have two different anti-B's that I can't even remember the name of. But we've tried penicillin, ceporex and of course Baytril in the past, but as they stopped being so helpful the bun has moved onto these other drugs (one tab and one fluid by mouth) and it seems to be helping her condition.

I am not sure, however, if he'd try some of the combinations with Joe Public. He knows that we trust him.

halfpenny
11-11-2010, 07:40 PM
Our vets are pretty good, although we may well be the same as The Duchess, they know us and trust us. They also often have to use unlicensed drugs on farm animals, like goats, so they are maybe less 'twitchy' about doing it.

Jack's-Jane
11-11-2010, 07:49 PM
C will prescribe off license but I have signed a disclaimer to cover ALL my Rabbits :)

Hugo's There
11-11-2010, 08:00 PM
They used to be great, Eddie was on all sorts of combinations at one point. They are the same vets but their attitude has completely changed :?

I was hoping the new vets we tried would be different but I guess they don't know us or what we do. They just think we are a bit odd at the moment for taking in such sick bunnies. Although Steve did tell her we usually only take the dental and mental!

Santa
11-11-2010, 08:13 PM
I think we're very lucky with Ivan Liz, as he is happy currently (possibly only with those of us he knows very well) to try all manner of antibiotics that might help. I have a boarding client at the moment whose bun has to have two different anti-B's that I can't even remember the name of. But we've tried penicillin, ceporex and of course Baytril in the past, but as they stopped being so helpful the bun has moved onto these other drugs


Exactly the same with my vet - not at all afraid to prescribe off-licence as long as I sign a consent form and in fact it was about 6 drugs in that we eventually tried Santa on baytril or septrin. My vets first antibiotic of choice for many occasions including post-surgery is usually engemycin.

As septrin is a human medication I can't see any logic to why they would prescribe that above something like engemycin or metronidazole or even penicillin, as in fact all of those are licenced for other animal species so actually come higher up the prescribing cascade than septrin would! It sounds more like a loss of confidence to me - have they had any problems with other clients and some of these drugs, maybe they've had a bad experience which has made them a bit twitchy :?

hurricanhoney
11-11-2010, 08:36 PM
I must admit my vet is willing to try different things and get advice from other practices if needed. I am really lucky in that respect. I just have to sign a consent form for mine. My vet said the only antibiotic specifically for rabbits is baytril.

biscuitblossom
12-11-2010, 02:40 AM
The only problem I have with my vet is that they insist on starting off on baytril even though they pretty much admit that its very often not the most effective antibiotic :?

They always make a point of saying when drugs arent licensed for rabbits so that I'm aware and take the risk of side effects.

abbymarysmokey
12-11-2010, 03:57 PM
My old vets (who I haven't used for a number of years) wouldn't prescribe anything injectable, in case the owner accidentally injected themselves. I think their primary motivation for this was in case anybody made an injury claim from them.

parsnipbun
12-11-2010, 05:12 PM
we are still getting metranidozole (sp?) often, and also had a special one for Parsleys ear - marbocil (in the ear) and were offerred penicillin injections recently