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abi2047
03-11-2010, 04:06 PM
I have been thinking a lot lately, about Riley. I have been wondering whether to give him up to someone who has more time than me and to someone who can care for him a lot better than me. Am I being horrible to him? Not letting him have a bunny friend? Should I skip my homework and coursework so I can spend more time with him? Should I wake up earlier in the morning and go to bed later so I can spend more time with him? I just want to gain his trust. I want him to love me like I love him :( Should I give him to a family who can fuss and spoil him more than me? Should I give him to a person who can have him as an indoor bun instead of an outdoor bun, like me? Or should I just carry on and try to get a strong bond between us? I know I have only had Riley since June but if anything happened to him I would be heartbroken! I know it would be hard to give him up but if its for a better life for him then I am prepared to do so. Am I just being silly? Is Riley fine with the way he is living at the moment?

Sky-O
03-11-2010, 04:10 PM
That's a lot of stuff flying round your head.

First off, its very clear you want what's best for Riley, and he's getting a lot more from you than from someone else.

However, a bunnies life can always improve (any bunny, not just Riley), be it more space, a friend, more toys, more stimulation, more company, anything and everything can be improved. So maybe that's what you need to work on, just improving little things along the way.

So vaccinations, neutering, more space, more company, things like that.

Do NOT let your education suffer for him though. Its not an either or, you can do both well, alongside each other. Like, if he was in a shed you could go and down your homework/coursework with him when appropriate.

You're new to him, and learning. You're doing ok :) You just need to keep working to improve his life, the same as everyone else does with their rabbits.

Carrie14
03-11-2010, 04:10 PM
Simple answer is to get a rescue to bond him with a bunny friend, one he really loves. Then he wont need you as much etc.

If there is something I have missed about Riley or you then apologies:)

abi2047
03-11-2010, 04:12 PM
Simple answer is to get a rescue to bond him with a bunny friend, one he really loves. Then he wont need you as much etc.

If there is something I have missed about Riley or you then apologies:)

I am only 14 and I would be really nervous about bonding him with another rabbit. And what if he turns against the bunny friend in the future? It would also mean saving up for bigger accomodation :cry:

Carrie14
03-11-2010, 04:13 PM
Are your parents not bunny mad?:(

abi2047
03-11-2010, 04:14 PM
That's a lot of stuff flying round your head.

First off, its very clear you want what's best for Riley, and he's getting a lot more from you than from someone else.

However, a bunnies life can always improve (any bunny, not just Riley), be it more space, a friend, more toys, more stimulation, more company, anything and everything can be improved. So maybe that's what you need to work on, just improving little things along the way.

So vaccinations, neutering, more space, more company, things like that.

Do NOT let your education suffer for him though. Its not an either or, you can do both well, alongside each other. Like, if he was in a shed you could go and down your homework/coursework with him when appropriate.

You're new to him, and learning. You're doing ok :) You just need to keep working to improve his life, the same as everyone else does with their rabbits.

He is already neutured etc. He doesn't have a shed but I am saving up my pocket money and christmas money for one. He has toys, treats, free range of the garden from 7am - 10pm. He doesn't seem to play with his toys and he has never eaten a treat that I have offered him. :cry:

abi2047
03-11-2010, 04:14 PM
Are your parents not bunny mad?:(

Im afraid not :(

OriginalFlintstone
03-11-2010, 04:20 PM
Personally I would get him neutered and get him a friend, if you can't do the bonding yourself there are plenty of rescues who can do it for you for a donation, plus your helping a bun in a rescue.

With regard to spending time with him, if you can get up a bit earlier do it, theres no better wake up than a bunny hug in a the morning. Don't leave your coursework tho, you'll live to regret that!

I know it's really tough having pets and working or at college, I've had buns since I was 10, but fortunately for me my mum loved them too and when I wasn't around I know they were just as spoilt. Is there anyone you live with that can help with Riley so you don't feel so bad?

Carrie14
03-11-2010, 04:21 PM
That makes it harder:( Have you got them to come on here and ask questions to other people who feel the same as you do about buns?

Maybe someone with a better way with words than me, could teach them that buns need a friend?

Sky-O
03-11-2010, 04:23 PM
That makes it harder:( Have you got them to come on here and ask questions to other people who feel the same as you do about buns?

Maybe someone with a better way with words than me, could teach them that buns need a friend?

Abi lives near me and I've offered to help her if she wants it and would also be willing to teach her parents if they wanted, but can only do so if they want to.

abi2047
03-11-2010, 04:25 PM
Personally I would get him neutered and get him a friend, if you can't do the bonding yourself there are plenty of rescues who can do it for you for a donation, plus your helping a bun in a rescue.

With regard to spending time with him, if you can get up a bit earlier do it, theres no better wake up than a bunny hug in a the morning. Don't leave your coursework tho, you'll live to regret that!

I know it's really tough having pets and working or at college, I've had buns since I was 10, but fortunately for me my mum loved them too and when I wasn't around I know they were just as spoilt. Is there anyone you live with that can help with Riley so you don't feel so bad?

My little brother likes giving Riley some head and nose rubs but like me he has to go to school. Riley doesn't like cuddles, only head and nose rubs. He is outside so no-one else gives him attention. In the summer the back door used to be open all day and when Riley free ranged he would come into the dining room whilst my mum was on the laptop and she would give him some attention when he sat next her but now its winter the back door is no longer open hours on end. I would have to wait until after christmas to get him a bunny friend as I would have to save up my christmas money, and pocket money to buy him a shed and aviary which would be big enough for the both of them.

abi2047
03-11-2010, 04:27 PM
That makes it harder:( Have you got them to come on here and ask questions to other people who feel the same as you do about buns?

Maybe someone with a better way with words than me, could teach them that buns need a friend?

I don't anyone could persuade her as it took a year of begging her to let me have a rabbit! :lol:

Carrie14
03-11-2010, 04:28 PM
Abi lives near me and I've offered to help her if she wants it and would also be willing to teach her parents if they wanted, but can only do so if they want to.

Blooming heck:shock: That is a huge opportunity for you abi2047:shock: Sky-o knows tones about rabbits, I would leap at the chance:thumb:

chelle
03-11-2010, 04:28 PM
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Sky-O That's a lot of stuff flying round your head.

First off, its very clear you want what's best for Riley, and he's getting a lot more from you than from someone else.

However, a bunnies life can always improve (any bunny, not just Riley), be it more space, a friend, more toys, more stimulation, more company, anything and everything can be improved. So maybe that's what you need to work on, just improving little things along the way.

So vaccinations, neutering, more space, more company, things like that.

Do NOT let your education suffer for him though. Its not an either or, you can do both well, alongside each other. Like, if he was in a shed you could go and down your homework/coursework with him when appropriate.

You're new to him, and learning. You're doing ok You just need to keep working to improve his life, the same as everyone else does with their rabbits.
agree ^ ^:D

aaah bless you...well - spending time ajust being there gains alot of trust...but really I think if you are worrying about him then a little bunny friend would possibly help. Of course bigger accomadatoin etc will be needed...but if your folks dont mind you getting a shed - which it appears they dont...then ask them for one perhaps before christmas so you can set it up...explain to them how you feel bad about the time you have to spend with Riley & that if you get a shed setup & Riley a friend then at least you can sit there doing your home work & also when youre not about bunny has a friend to play with & interact with.

Id not worry too much about them falling out - my 2 girls sometimes have a scuffle and then a few days later are lounging all over each other. They also spend time apart but the fact that they do have each other is better for my piece of mind than knowing they are by themselves...naturally they are very social creatures.

Of course its obvious you want whats best for Riley....and of course the initial cost of getting another bunny from a rescue has to be considered...but perhaps Riley does need a friend of his own kind...and a rescue will be able to help you find a bunny thats right for Riley. I find that sitting reading my book with the buns & letting them realise Im not a scarey thing to have about helps gain their trust. Also by laying down on the floor...

If you get another bun - perhaps you can get one thats easy to handle....then maybe Riley will learn that its ok too...

I hope you decide whats right for you both xxx:D

abi2047
03-11-2010, 04:30 PM
Abi lives near me and I've offered to help her if she wants it and would also be willing to teach her parents if they wanted, but can only do so if they want to.

Thanks for the offer but Riley is already booked in for nail clipping and a health check. My mum wouldn't be able to give him attention as Riley doesn't trust anyone, he barely trusts me :cry: I have to wrestle him when I need to bring him indoors so I can check him over. I hate putting him through stress :cry: My mum wouldn't want to sit in the garden with him stroking him in the freezing cold, she is a busy woman during the day aswell :( x

Sky-O
03-11-2010, 04:32 PM
Thanks for the offer but Riley is already booked in for nail clipping and a health check. My mum wouldn't be able to give him attention as Riley doesn't trust anyone, he barely trusts me :cry: I have to wrestle him when I need to bring him indoors so I can check him over. I hate putting him through stress :cry: My mum wouldn't want to sit in the garden with him stroking him in the freezing cold, she is a busy woman during the day aswell :( x

Wel done :)

My offer extends for anything bunny related though. So if at ay time you change your mind and want to take me up on it, or you mum does, then that's cool.

abi2047
03-11-2010, 04:36 PM
agree ^ ^:D

aaah bless you...well - spending time ajust being there gains alot of trust...but really I think if you are worrying about him then a little bunny friend would possibly help. Of course bigger accomadatoin etc will be needed...but if your folks dont mind you getting a shed - which it appears they dont...then ask them for one perhaps before christmas so you can set it up...explain to them how you feel bad about the time you have to spend with Riley & that if you get a shed setup & Riley a friend then at least you can sit there doing your home work & also when youre not about bunny has a friend to play with & interact with.

Id not worry too much about them falling out - my 2 girls sometimes have a scuffle and then a few days later are lounging all over each other. They also spend time apart but the fact that they do have each other is better for my piece of mind than knowing they are by themselves...naturally they are very social creatures.

Of course its obvious you want whats best for Riley....and of course the initial cost of getting another bunny from a rescue has to be considered...but perhaps Riley does need a friend of his own kind...and a rescue will be able to help you find a bunny thats right for Riley. I find that sitting reading my book with the buns & letting them realise Im not a scarey thing to have about helps gain their trust. Also by laying down on the floor...

If you get another bun - perhaps you can get one thats easy to handle....then maybe Riley will learn that its ok too...

I hope you decide whats right for you both xxx:D

Mum wouldn't be able to help with the costs of the shed as she doesn't have a job, I pay for everything of Riley's out of my own pocket. I have already showed my mum what shed I want for christmas and all my family is giving me money instead of presents. I would love a bunny friend for Riley! But its not me that makes the decisions in the house its my mum, bearing in mind that it would all come out of my own pocket she would most likely let me get another rabbit. Today I had to spend my pocket money on veg and food for Riley instead of buying something for myself. It is going to take a long time to save up for a shed and an aviary but because it is for Riley then I am prepared to spend my money on him as it is for his benefit :D

abi2047
03-11-2010, 04:37 PM
Wel done :)

My offer extends for anything bunny related though. So if at ay time you change your mind and want to take me up on it, or you mum does, then that's cool.

Thankyou so much :) If I need any advice, or need you to show me how to do something then I will pop you a PM :)

chelle
03-11-2010, 04:37 PM
Abi lives near me and I've offered to help her if she wants it and would also be willing to teach her parents if they wanted, but can only do so if they want to.

:shock::love:Goodness me- what an opportunity - BUT I can undertsand that all parties will need to want to get involved. So Abi- if it took you a year to convinve mum to let you get a rabbit...do you now find the responsibility of looking after it too much? As much as you adore Riley..is it all what you expected it to be?

Perhaps your mum might feel that she will be left to look after Riley & any other pets if oyu go to college in a couple of years etc...
Its a very difficult time in your life to be able to commit to something as a pet as they live so long & mums know they will generally have to take over the care once oyu have gone...
On the other hand if you feel that you can cope - you are just worried about company for Riley - then aproaching your mum with perhaps some leaflets on rabbits care - offical ones & the amount of what you have managed to save towards the shed/aviary & the cost involved written down...then maybe she will realise your commitment to Riley & his well-being. But of course you will need to realise that mum will still be worried baout having to look after the buns if you are not around & this need to be discussed & you both need to feel ok with the decisions. I know its so hard to talk to mums sometimes...so perhaps write it all down - work out what you feel is best & the reasons why & then have a chat with her....you never know she may just be able to help your worries & suggest some things...

Holding thumbs for you!:D Hope this helps....:?

OriginalFlintstone
03-11-2010, 04:40 PM
My little brother likes giving Riley some head and nose rubs but like me he has to go to school. Riley doesn't like cuddles, only head and nose rubs. He is outside so no-one else gives him attention. In the summer the back door used to be open all day and when Riley free ranged he would come into the dining room whilst my mum was on the laptop and she would give him some attention when he sat next her but now its winter the back door is no longer open hours on end. I would have to wait until after christmas to get him a bunny friend as I would have to save up my christmas money, and pocket money to buy him a shed and aviary which would be big enough for the both of them.

Sounds like a very mature head on young shoulders! You've obviously got plans.

From reading your posts on this thread it sounds like Riley does trust you, he lets you and your brother give him nose rubs, and he hops straight into the house, thats a confident happy bunny in my opinion! I wouldn't worry about him not letting you pick him up much, thats just a rabbit thing, they generally don't like being picked up.

chelle
03-11-2010, 04:43 PM
Mum wouldn't be able to help with the costs of the shed as she doesn't have a job, I pay for everything of Riley's out of my own pocket. I have already showed my mum what shed I want for christmas and all my family is giving me money instead of presents. I would love a bunny friend for Riley! But its not me that makes the decisions in the house its my mum, bearing in mind that it would all come out of my own pocket she would most likely let me get another rabbit. Today I had to spend my pocket money on veg and food for Riley instead of buying something for myself. It is going to take a long time to save up for a shed and an aviary but because it is for Riley then I am prepared to spend my money on him as it is for his benefit :D

weell Riley is certainly a very much loved bunny!:love:
So....what shed is oyur main aim? is there alink? You never know sometimes there are deals going around...

I just got a free shed on freecycle...I had to dismantle it & it was very very heavy so had to get some help...but it was free & only needs a small amount of work!

well.....bless you ! You can also save on money by foraging for loads of wild plansy & herbs etc...then dry them & keep for over winter months when there is not much food about...might helo you save on food for Riley!
I do hope that oyu can have a chat with your mum & get Riley a friend...and of cousre haveing Sky-o to help with any bonding queries or any other bunny related things is a sure thumbs up!:love: Any pics of Riley?:love:

abi2047
03-11-2010, 04:43 PM
:shock::love:Goodness me- what an opportunity - BUT I can undertsand that all parties will need to want to get involved. So Abi- if it took you a year to convinve mum to let you get a rabbit...do you now find the responsibility of looking after it too much? As much as you adore Riley..is it all what you expected it to be?

Perhaps your mum might feel that she will be left to look after Riley & any other pets if oyu go to college in a couple of years etc...
Its a very difficult time in your life to be able to commit to something as a pet as they live so long & mums know they will generally have to take over the care once oyu have gone...
On the other hand if you feel that you can cope - you are just worried about company for Riley - then aproaching your mum with perhaps some leaflets on rabbits care - offical ones & the amount of what you have managed to save towards the shed/aviary & the cost involved written down...then maybe she will realise your commitment to Riley & his well-being. But of course you will need to realise that mum will still be worried baout having to look after the buns if you are not around & this need to be discussed & you both need to feel ok with the decisions. I know its so hard to talk to mums sometimes...so perhaps write it all down - work out what you feel is best & the reasons why & then have a chat with her....you never know she may just be able to help your worries & suggest some things...

Holding thumbs for you!:D Hope this helps....:?

I find it sooooo hard to talk to my mum because she doesn't seem interested if it has anything to do with Riley. I have talked to her about all this stuff that I want to do with Riley (shed, aviary, bunny friend) and she doesn't really care. I think I would find it easier to tell her all of this on paper. I accept that I am responsible for Riley. When I go to college I would most probably still be living with my mum so I would be home at night time to care for him.

chelle
03-11-2010, 04:44 PM
Sounds like a very mature head on young shoulders! You've obviously got plans.

From reading your posts on this thread it sounds like Riley does trust you, he lets you and your brother give him nose rubs, and he hops straight into the house, thats a confident happy bunny in my opinion! I wouldn't worry about him not letting you pick him up much, thats just a rabbit thing, they generally don't like being picked up.

yip! My girls are alwasy thumping at me if I insist...bless them always "running away"...being a bunny!:love:

abi2047
03-11-2010, 04:46 PM
Sounds like a very mature head on young shoulders! You've obviously got plans.

From reading your posts on this thread it sounds like Riley does trust you, he lets you and your brother give him nose rubs, and he hops straight into the house, thats a confident happy bunny in my opinion! I wouldn't worry about him not letting you pick him up much, thats just a rabbit thing, they generally don't like being picked up.

I know it is a rabbit thing but I just feel I am not doing good enough for his needs. I feel like I am not good enough for him. I have to admit that it is a struggle but I get through it. x

chelle
03-11-2010, 04:49 PM
I find it sooooo hard to talk to my mum because she doesn't seem interested if it has anything to do with Riley. I have talked to her about all this stuff that I want to do with Riley (shed, aviary, bunny friend) and she doesn't really care. I think I would find it easier to tell her all of this on paper. I accept that I am responsible for Riley. When I go to college I would most probably still be living with my mum so I would be home at night time to care for him.

Yeah - its really hard when you feel they arent interested...if you do it all on paper...it will help you have a clear mind as to what you want & the direction you are heading in. It will also prepare you for questions & answers you may have or need to give. Its hard when you have to decide alot on your own. Perhaps also write a list of questions you need answered for example...costs, plans, preperations for the shed - where it will go, the base for it to go on, etc.
This way a plan will be started & will be clear in your mind so you knwo what needs to be done in what order. Otherwise sometimes it all get too much to organsie & confusing.
I hope you can talk to your mum...maybe ask her if she is interested in your plans for Riley? Im sure she is...maybe she doesnt realise she is making you feel this way.
:)

abi2047
03-11-2010, 04:51 PM
weell Riley is certainly a very much loved bunny!:love:
So....what shed is your main aim? is there alink? You never know sometimes there are deals going around...

I just got a free shed on freecycle...I had to dismantle it & it was very very heavy so had to get some help...but it was free & only needs a small amount of work!

well.....bless you ! You can also save on money by foraging for loads of wild plansy & herbs etc...then dry them & keep for over winter months when there is not much food about...might helo you save on food for Riley!
I do hope that oyu can have a chat with your mum & get Riley a friend...and of cousre haveing Sky-o to help with any bonding queries or any other bunny related things is a sure thumbs up!:love: Any pics of Riley?:love:

Either this one http://www.wilkinsonplus.com/Garden-Sheds+Storage/Traditional-Overlap-Shed-5ft-x-3ft/invt/kt00001?htxt=PsAGyAqy%2FDSGVBgOHPBfATKVETOKIWHcwqo ICuDrG%2FxTcDPfxIrYzUvEu76RzzM6wutKTeo9AOCB%0AtDs7 6aYYKg%3D%3D

Or this one http://www.wilkinsonplus.com/Garden-Sheds+Storage/Traditional-Overlap-Shed-6ft-x-4ft/invt/kt00002?htxt=PsAGyAqy%2FDSGVBgOHPBfATKVETOKIWHcwqo ICuDrG%2FxTcDPfxIrYzUvEu76RzzM6wutKTeo9AOCB%0AtDs7 6aYYKg%3D%3D

But I would of probably of changed my mind by then :lol:

I have lots of pics of Riley :lol: Do you wanna see?

abi2047
03-11-2010, 04:54 PM
Yeah - its really hard when you feel they arent interested...if you do it all on paper...it will help you have a clear mind as to what you want & the direction you are heading in. It will also prepare you for questions & answers you may have or need to give. Its hard when you have to decide alot on your own. Perhaps also write a list of questions you need answered for example...costs, plans, preperations for the shed - where it will go, the base for it to go on, etc.
This way a plan will be started & will be clear in your mind so you knwo what needs to be done in what order. Otherwise sometimes it all get too much to organsie & confusing.
I hope you can talk to your mum...maybe ask her if she is interested in your plans for Riley? Im sure she is...maybe she doesnt realise she is making you feel this way.
:)

I have started looking around online for a shed but I have know idea what to look for :? I don't think she realises how she is making me feel either. Sometimes when I have has a bad day I go and sit in the garden (rain or shine) next to the hutch giving Riley nose rubs, its the only way I can be on my own and let out some tears. I know mum is going through a tough time but I don't think she realises she is taking it out on me :(

OriginalFlintstone
03-11-2010, 04:56 PM
I know it is a rabbit thing but I just feel I am not doing good enough for his needs. I feel like I am not good enough for him. I have to admit that it is a struggle but I get through it. x

Oh I feel like that everyday honey! The thing with rabbits, is people in general are learning more about them everyday, so even the people with the best rabbit set ups in the country are always looking for improvement.

You only feel like that because you love him dearly and want to make his life better. I've had bunnys for 17 years and I still feel like there are things I could do better.

abi2047
03-11-2010, 04:59 PM
Oh I feel like that everyday honey! The thing with rabbits, is people in general are learning more about them everyday, so even the people with the best rabbit set ups in the country are always looking for improvement.

You only feel like that because you love him dearly and want to make his life better. I've had bunnys for 17 years and I still feel like there are things I could do better.

I look on RU at peoples set ups and stories about what they done with their bunnys and it makes me feel really bad and guilty. I admit Riley's set up isn't big enough and that is why I am getting him a shed. :D

Sky-O
03-11-2010, 05:03 PM
I look on RU at peoples set ups and stories about what they done with their bunnys and it makes me feel really bad and guilty. I admit Riley's set up isn't big enough and that is why I am getting him a shed. :D

And this is exactly why you shouldn't feel guilty. Becuase you're trying and working and improving his life.

Until recently my setup was rubbish, but then my dad built a beautiful aviary type thing and its great for them :D I'd love bigger, but its a large improvement on what they had.

You're doing great :)

abi2047
03-11-2010, 05:11 PM
And this is exactly why you shouldn't feel guilty. Because you're trying and working and improving his life.

Until recently my setup was rubbish, but then my dad built a beautiful aviary type thing and its great for them :D I'd love bigger, but its a large improvement on what they had.

You're doing great :)

If my dad and mum still lived together then I am sure he would be happy to help me build something for Riley but unfortunately that can't happen. When i'm older I want to rescue lots of rabbits but if I can't cope with the one rabbit I have then what would i be like with 5+?
Thankyou :)

Heather&Bart-MyLittleBuns
03-11-2010, 05:16 PM
Don't feel bad, we all want more for our bunnies no matter how big their accomadtion already is! You've only been a bunny mummy for a matter of months and I'm sure you already know far more about bunnies then many other owners you keep them stuck in a tiny hutch and don't care at all about the poor thing. Thats the main thing you care. You are doing trying to do everything for Riley, you want to improve his life. That certiantly does't make you a bad owner in my eyes that makes you a very good one :D

Oh and he also sounds like he already trusts you :love:


PS We NEED pic of him ;)

Sky-O
03-11-2010, 05:17 PM
If my dad and mum still lived together then I am sure he would be happy to help me build something for Riley but unfortunately that can't happen. When i'm older I want to rescue lots of rabbits but if I can't cope with the one rabbit I have then what would i be like with 5+?
Thankyou :)

I wasn't suggesting your dad should build anything, I was just saying that's what mine did.

Right now you need to put into persepctive that you're 14, you are very new to rabbits and have a new rabbit. Its going to be tough. You don't have much money and yte have to fund it all yourself (and are doing a brilliant job). You have an awful lot to learn (like everynew owner) and are learning super fast and doing well, but there is still a lot to learn.

Don't look at the future and maybe having more rabbits, just focus on now and you and Riley.

abi2047
03-11-2010, 05:24 PM
I wasn't suggesting your dad should build anything, I was just saying that's what mine did.

Right now you need to put into persepctive that you're 14, you are very new to rabbits and have a new rabbit. Its going to be tough. You don't have much money and yte have to fund it all yourself (and are doing a brilliant job). You have an awful lot to learn (like everynew owner) and are learning super fast and doing well, but there is still a lot to learn.

Don't look at the future and maybe having more rabbits, just focus on now and you and Riley.

I know it will be tough, especially with having to buy extra hay because of the cold winter months, but as said before it is for the benefit of Riley, so I am happy to do this. :D
I just feel that everyone on here is better than me and their set up is better than Riley's but I am working on improving it :D

abi2047
03-11-2010, 05:25 PM
Don't feel bad, we all want more for our bunnies no matter how big their accomadtion already is! You've only been a bunny mummy for a matter of months and I'm sure you already know far more about bunnies then many other owners you keep them stuck in a tiny hutch and don't care at all about the poor thing. Thats the main thing you care. You are doing trying to do everything for Riley, you want to improve his life. That certiantly does't make you a bad owner in my eyes that makes you a very good one :D

Oh and he also sounds like he already trusts you :love:


PS We NEED pic of him ;)

It has only been a matter of months and I think I have got the hang of it quickly which is a good thing. Of course I care about him, he is my little Riley :D.
Here are some pics:
http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa349/abi2047/pets/DSCF0055.jpg
http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa349/abi2047/pets/DSCF0048-1.jpg
http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa349/abi2047/pets/DSCF0045-1.jpg
http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa349/abi2047/pets/DSCF0030.jpg

Ok thats enough :lol:

Sky-O
03-11-2010, 05:28 PM
I know it will be tough, especially with having to buy extra hay because of the cold winter months, but as said before it is for the benefit of Riley, so I am happy to do this. :D
I just feel that everyone on here is better than me and their set up is better than Riley's but I am working on improving it :D

I think, to be honest, that many people feel like that. But remember that set up is not everything. You can have a wonderful set up, but lack in other areas.

You're very much doing your best :)

With regards to hay, have you tried Barnard Brothers and getting them to deliver it? Its 6.85 for 25kg, so your only problem may be storing it somewhere.

susie bun
03-11-2010, 05:29 PM
I think you are doing really well. :) My set-up for Spenser is very far from perfect, but it's the best I can do at the moment and it does seem to please him most of the time. I think people who really love their rabbits can too easily put themselves down. My rabbits HATES being picked up or cuddled, although unlike Riley he has not been neutered yet - so you're ahead of me there! Spenser isn't that keen on his toys, unless it is a cardboard box he can go to sleep in or trash, depending on how energetic he is. Try not to worry too much - Riley is much better off than many rabbits. :wave:

abi2047
03-11-2010, 05:30 PM
I think, to be honest, that many people feel like that. But remember that set up is not everything. You can have a wonderful set up, but lack in other areas.

You're very much doing your best :)

With regards to hay, have you tried Barnard Brothers and getting them to deliver it? Its 6.85 for 25kg, so your only problem may be storing it somewhere.

Would this hay take up a lot of space? If so how much? As I am paying 2.50 for 2kg!!

Sky-O
03-11-2010, 05:31 PM
Would this hay take up a lot of space? If so how much? As I am paying 2.50 for 2kg!!

Its about roughly 4ft by 2ft by 1ft, so quite a large space for hay, but you can break it down and store it in boxes, or pillow cases or duvet covers and stuff like that.

abi2047
03-11-2010, 05:32 PM
I think you are doing really well. :) My set-up for Spenser is very far from perfect, but it's the best I can do at the moment and it does seem to please him most of the time. I think people who really love their rabbits can too easily put themselves down. My rabbits HATES being picked up or cuddled, although unlike Riley he has not been neutered yet - so you're ahead of me there! Spenser isn't that keen on his toys, unless it is a cardboard box he can go to sleep in or trash, depending on how energetic he is. Try not to worry too much - Riley is much better off than many rabbits. :wave:

Your set up is a bit bigger than Riley's but like I said earlier on I am working on it. Riley was already neutered before I got him so that was a bonus :D

abi2047
03-11-2010, 05:33 PM
Its about roughly 4ft by 2ft by 1ft, so quite a large space for hay, but you can break it down and store it in boxes, or pillow cases or duvet covers and stuff like that.

I will see how much room there is under the stairs and in the dining room where I store everything else :lol: Do they charge delivery?

bunlover
03-11-2010, 05:33 PM
i think at 14years old you are doing the ebst you can, i dont know what accomodation he is currently in but some rescues will allow buns to be in pairs in hutches, mine are and are perfectly happy not having a shed, they have a 6ftx3x3ft hutch and the other pair have a 6x2x2 hutch its ok to not have the money for large items like sheds thats normal, i think a bunny freind and lots of toys is next of if thats not an affordable option then working on bringing him in (not sure how it all went down with your mum about him becoming a house rabbit) it is difficult when you are young to do everything you want but at the moment it seems like riley has everything he needs, however bunnys are the kind of creature that you can always give them that little bit more, my bunnies are super dupa cared for but they can always do with more toys, posh hay, more cuddles its just there are difficult times when you cant give them as much as you would like, you are giving him all he needs immediatly and are not being cruel, i dont think giving him up would change anything he is already neutered, and vaccinated and you feed and water adn clean him daily as well as pet him lots when you can, if you can get him indoors fab if not dont worry work on saving to have a second bunny as a freind the rescue can bond them (or maybe sky-o as she lives near apparently?) and then they would need less human attention in terms of nose rubs dont worry you are doing all you can for now x

abi2047
03-11-2010, 05:37 PM
i think at 14years old you are doing the ebst you can, i dont know what accomodation he is currently in but some rescues will allow buns to be in pairs in hutches, mine are and are perfectly happy not having a shed, they have a 6ftx3x3ft hutch and the other pair have a 6x2x2 hutch its ok to not have the money for large items like sheds thats normal, i think a bunny freind and lots of toys is next of if thats not an affordable option then working on bringing him in (not sure how it all went down with your mum about him becoming a house rabbit) it is difficult when you are young to do everything you want but at the moment it seems like riley has everything he needs, however bunnys are the kind of creature that you can always give them that little bit more, my bunnies are super dupa cared for but they can always do with more toys, posh hay, more cuddles its just there are difficult times when you cant give them as much as you would like, you are giving him all he needs immediatly and are not being cruel, i dont think giving him up would change anything he is already neutered, and vaccinated and you feed and water adn clean him daily as well as pet him lots when you can, if you can get him indoors fab if not dont worry work on saving to have a second bunny as a freind the rescue can bond them (or maybe sky-o as she lives near apparently?) and then they would need less human attention in terms of nose rubs dont worry you are doing all you can for now x

Mum has already made it very clear he is not going to be a house bun. :( I would love him to be a house bunny but unfortunately it is up to my mum

susie bun
03-11-2010, 05:42 PM
Mum has already made it very clear he is not going to be a house bun. :( I would love him to be a house bunny but unfortunately it is up to my mum

I'm nearly 3 times your age, but I live with my parents so I can sympathise there! Fortunately they love Spenser now, although they weren't keen on the idea to begin with. If it is a really bad winter he is to be allowed to live in the conservatory. There are lots of things you can do to keep an outdoor rabbit warm in winter, and many of them (including Spenser) actually like living in their own space.

abi2047
03-11-2010, 05:48 PM
I'm nearly 3 times your age, but I live with my parents so I can sympathise there! Fortunately they love Spenser now, although they weren't keen on the idea to begin with. If it is a really bad winter he is to be allowed to live in the conservatory. There are lots of things you can do to keep an outdoor rabbit warm in winter, and many of them (including Spenser) actually like living in their own space.

I am going to be buying lots of hay, straw and a snugglesafe although I am nervous about him chewing it.

Sky-O
03-11-2010, 05:48 PM
I will see how much room there is under the stairs and in the dining room where I store everything else :lol: Do they charge delivery?

Nope. No delivery charge.

http://www.barnardbrothers.co.uk/

I believe they sell smaller lots of hay too so if you pop in or call them, then maybe ask the sizes of the hay they sell and how much they are.

abi2047
03-11-2010, 05:49 PM
Nope. No delivery charge.

http://www.barnardbrothers.co.uk/

I believe they sell smaller lots of hay too so if you pop in or call them, then maybe ask the sizes of the hay they sell and how much they are.

I will give them a ring next week because by then I would of ran out of hay. :lol: I will wait for Riley to use all this hay then order some from them :D