Lola - RTI / snuffles. U/D -ADMITTED U/D Post 11

Lola is currently very wheezy. The Co-Trimoxazole has had little or no effect and I'm quite worried.

I took her to the vets as an 'emergency' case today at 6.15pm after it looked like she had something stuck in her throat. My rabbit specialist examined her and said her nose didn't look any better, but it didn't look any worse. She'd also stopped stretching her neck by this point, so my visit was inconclusive.

I'm now home and Lola sounds worse than ever, she's so noisy it's untrue, her eyes are fine, the nose discharge is clear, and she's running around and eating just as normal. Though the noise is worst when she's eating or washing. I just want my baby to be ok. She means the world to me and Jay and I'm sick at the thought of her feeling ill.

I'm going to the vets at 9am and I've hung a tissue with olbas oil on in her base, she's also got a snuggle safe. Can anyone please recommend some treatments for my little Loli?

Thank you.

xx

http://forums.rabbitrehome.org.uk/showthread.php?t=239410 this is the thread I started when Mrs Ord's bun had snuffles there's some advice on there

sending lots of vibes for lovely Lola xxxx

poor bun

matt is worse when he is washing and eating. very wheezy.

olbas oil is what i used to put near matt, and then was told not too, apparantly it can irritate the lining of the nose. so i stopped that.

how long have you been going with the co.trimoxazole? usually a rabbit vet will try something for about a month-3months to see if it works.

i would probably ask to start with a nebuliser, it has been the best thing for bisc and matt.

also, sometimes matt did a choking sounds, and it seemed like something was stuck in his throat or he was coughing.. it was actually all the mucus kind of 'unplugging' in his nose. but he looked awful when he did it, and i had heart failure because i thought he was choking. after that, he sneezed alot and eventually it all unblocked and came out. it builds up again very quickly though, hence the nebuliser twice a day.

it can take a long time, and once you find the right treatment, even then it will take a good few months to clear, just because the mucus is so thick, and because it gets deep into the spores in the nose, treatment has to reach there, otherwise it will just keep coming back.

if you have got a rabbit vet, then i would just trust them with treatment, but also tell them if you feel something isn't working etc. you know lola best.

but it can take time. i used to panic so much that bisc and matt didn't seem better quickly. obv you have seen the thread about them, so you can see i went through the same worrying.

i think nebuliser with an antibiotic is the best thing. bisc and matt also have metacam twice daily, to make them comfortable, but also as an anti-inflammatry. :wave:

Just to update, I've taken Lola to the emergency vet, she's being kept in overnight in a nebuliser, they're trying her on a different antibiotic and she has Max with her for company.

Thanks so much for the advise. I'm trying to be so positive, but it was so so hard leaving her at the vets tonight, me and the O/H cannot stop crying.

We went in the back to see her in the nebuliser and I just wanted to stay their all night with her .

xx

I agree totally with Bisc&matt.
You have to got to launch & out attack on snuffles at the 1st. episode, to prevent tissue damage which prevents proper drainage of the mucus in the nose, & a reservoir of infection.
There is often sinus/lower tear duct infection from the snuffles, so she'll need a proplonged course - minimum 6 weeks.

ABx by mouth/injection & ABx via nebulizer. at a minimum.
Maizey also gave her bun echinacea to boost the immune system.
I don't think you can do much tonight - possibly warm up the bathroom & get lots of steam in there, to help loosen up secretions.

Please don't hire a nebuliser - costs the earth. You can buy them on the internet for £50 & make your own bunny chamber from a plastic crate.

I agree totally with Bisc&matt.
You have to got to launch & out attack on snuffles at the 1st. episode, to prevent tissue damage which prevents proper drainage of the mucus in the nose, & a reservoir of infection.
There is often sinus/lower tear duct infection from the snuffles, so she'll need a proplonged course - minimum 6 weeks.

ABx by mouth/injection & ABx via nebulizer. + anti inflammatory at a minimum.
Maizey also gave her bun echinacea to boost the immune system.
I don't think you can do much tonight - possibly warm up the bathroom & get lots of steam in there, to help loosen up secretions.

Please don't hire a nebuliser - costs the earth. You can buy them on the internet for £50 & make your own bunny chamber from a plastic crate.

poor lola

it's horrible leaving them, but the nebuliser will be the best thing for her, help to clear her airways and help her feel more comfortable.

thinking of lola, and hugs for you, it's so worrying.

xxx

eta: just to add, both bisc and matts was left too long, they have had an awful time, will be on treatment for life, and have scar tissue damage.... but, they still do really well considering, and as you are starting full on treatment early on, hopefully she will be ok. it's not nice, but with the uri controlled and stable, they can still be happy and hoppy! :wave:

thumps_ said:

I agree totally with Bisc&matt.
You have to got to launch & out attack on snuffles at the 1st. episode, to prevent tissue damage which prevents proper drainage of the mucus in the nose, & a reservoir of infection.
There is often sinus/lower tear duct infection from the snuffles, so she'll need a proplonged course - minimum 6 weeks.

ABx by mouth/injection & ABx via nebulizer. + anti inflammatory at a minimum.
Maizey also gave her bun echinacea to boost the immune system.
I don't think you can do much tonight - possibly warm up the bathroom & get lots of steam in there, to help loosen up secretions.

Please don't hire a nebuliser - costs the earth. You can buy them on the internet for £50 & make your own bunny chamber from a plastic crate.

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It's really late so my eyes aren't open, which for some reason is making it harder for me to read! :?:lol: Ginger seems to have snuffles (sneezing/very runny eyes/sticky forepaws) which he's never had before. He's on antibiotics and eyedrops. He's not having trouble breathing, but should he have a nebuliser anyway? What about antinflammatory? Also, what is echinacea?

Sorry to butt into your thread Jaysmonkey - loads of vibes for your little girlie.

Hoppit! said:

It's really late so my eyes aren't open, which for some reason is making it harder for me to read! :?:lol: Ginger seems to have snuffles (sneezing/very runny eyes/sticky forepaws) which he's never had before. He's on antibiotics and eyedrops. He's not having trouble breathing, but should he have a nebuliser anyway? What about antinflammatory? Also, what is echinacea?

Sorry to butt into your thread Jaysmonkey - loads of vibes for your little girlie.

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matt gets watery eyes, the nebuliser has really helped him with that, aswell as the mucus in the nose. might be worth talking to the vet about it.

if he is sneezing and has mucus, the inside or back of the nose may be inflammed, the metacam obv helps to control this. :wave:

Still sending vibes for Lola, sorry to hear she's been admitted any news on her this morning?

U/D's incoming!

I rang at midnight, Lola was being her usual self, although breathing was audible and still wheezy. She'd eaten hay, pellets and urinated and pooed.

I rang again at 3.30am, Max was very quiet and hadn't eaten, Lola had been demanding every nurse give her head rubs and when they stopped a head-butt was received!

I rang lastly at 7.30am to be told that both Lola and Max were 'eating hay like it had gone out of fashion', also Max had eaten pellets by this time and livened up. Lola has been demanding cuddles all night and her breathing is better but still abit 'crackly'.

Everytime me or the O/H rang we said 'Hi, I'm ringing about my bunny..' and they'd cut us off with 'Is it Lola?'. I think all the nurses now want to steal my cuddle-hogging-noserub-demanding bunny!

They're taking her off the oxygen as we speak to see how she does and ringing us at about 11.30am.

Fingers crossed all is well, in the mean time me and the O/H are off shopping for a box for her chamber.

Thanks so much for the vibes, I think they're working.

More would be gratefully received! xxx


Just updated from other thread; sorry lazy I know, but I'm drained this morning. :shock:

So pleased to read that she's doing so much better.

Is that Lola in your signature?

just posted on the other thread, but more vibes again! :wave:

Snuffles

Hi there I hope Lola makes a full recovery! How is she now?

I'm a bit worried about my bun Alfie, he started sneezing regularly about two months ago so I took him to the vet who said that he is fine. But now he has quite thick discharge from his nose, sneezes all the time and recently his right eye has starting weeping a little.

Does this sound like something serious? He is totally himself in terms of personality, bouncy, happy and craving cuddles as always - and he is eating fine - i just don't want this to turn into something bad.

I already lost two buns to cancer and that devastated me! I'm determined not to lose my cutie Alf!

Thanks, Jem

*Jemma* said:

Hi there I hope Lola makes a full recovery! How is she now?

I'm a bit worried about my bun Alfie, he started sneezing regularly about two months ago so I took him to the vet who said that he is fine. But now he has quite thick discharge from his nose, sneezes all the time and recently his right eye has starting weeping a little.

Does this sound like something serious? He is totally himself in terms of personality, bouncy, happy and craving cuddles as always - and he is eating fine - i just don't want this to turn into something bad.

I already lost two buns to cancer and that devastated me! I'm determined not to lose my cutie Alf!

Thanks, Jem

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that sounds very much like a respiratory infection. the reason my two ended up so bad and now on lifetime treatment, is because the vets i used to go to said there was nothing wrong with them. :evil:

please find a rabbit vet, it's so important, and get him back to be seen asap. trust me, don't let it get worse. the longer it is left, the more the infection has time to build up deep in the spores of the nose, and it is so hard to clear. my two have tissue damage/scarring now so will never recover from it.

as soon as i saw a rabbit vet, they were started on treatment, had all the proper tests they needed, and were made stable. it's been a long, long battle though.

definitely get a second opinion. :wave:

eta: before bisc and matts got worse, they acted normally, but the symptoms gradually got worse and worse. we have had an awful time of it. really awful.

not trying to scare you, but please get bun checked out with the rabbit vet as soon as possible. xxx

I support what biscandmatt1 has said completely.
It's the best advice you could be given.

Glad she's a bit better sending lots of vibes

Thanks for the advice, I took Alfie to the vets this aft and the vet agreed it was an infection. I've been given "Tiacil" eye drops which will apparently work their way down through the eye ducts to the nose and hopefully clear it.

I'll see how it goes and take him back if it doesn't clear soon! Well he's definately a happier bunny tonight, stretched across the sofa

x x x

*Jemma* said:

Thanks for the advice, I took Alfie to the vets this aft and the vet agreed it was an infection. I've been given "Tiacil" eye drops which will apparently work their way down through the eye ducts to the nose and hopefully clear it.

I'll see how it goes and take him back if it doesn't clear soon! Well he's definately a happier bunny tonight, stretched across the sofa

x x x

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i'm so happy you took him to the vets so quickly. i didn't realise how much bunnies needed a proper rabbit vet until i went there, and the treatment was so great.

lots of vibes that the treatment works.

sorry if i worried you, just know how quickly these things can take hold. xxx

biscandmatt1 said:

i'm so happy you took him to the vets so quickly. i didn't realise how much bunnies needed a proper rabbit vet until i went there, and the treatment was so great.

lots of vibes that the treatment works.

sorry if i worried you, just know how quickly these things can take hold. xxx

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I know, I wasn't going to take any chances with him. We've also just realised that he is deaf poor thing, but he's still happy as larry hopefullt these eye drops clear his snuffles up. I will add pictures soon x x