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quackers
15-08-2010, 06:11 PM
Having a hard time with Myxomatosis at the moment.

Originally bought my first 2 bunnys in March this year, one died suddenly in the night after 3 days of having them. The other one i got straght to the Vets the next day for a checkup and injections and she is still with me and very healthy. Because i was going to be moving home, i thought i would leave getting her any friend(s) until i had moved.

Finally got settled in new place 2 weeks ago, bought another large cage, went to the pet shop and they had just 3 females left, and all seemed very attached to each other. 1 Was a loverly floppy dwarf rabbit which a fell in love with straght away, a cute tiny little black/grey rabbit and another white/ginger one. I came wanting 2, but could not bare to split them up, since the pet shop man said most of that delivery had died due to stress and this was what had survived.

After the experience of my first 2 rabbits, i got them booked in the Vets 2 days later for first injections. My favorate one, the fluffy floppy dwarf one could not have the myxomatosis vacination because it did not seem well enough and the Vet did not want to stress the emune system too much. He gave her some other injection the other 2 got the myxomatosis injection. That did not seem to help the fluffy dwarf rabbit much and her eyes started to become all gunged up with puss, so took her back to the Vets and he tried one more injection, again i am not sure what, gave me some eye drops and some fluid to feed her using a suringe type thing.

So bought her a seperate cage and kept her indoors as she was also weesing, and coughing and sniffling. Spent all this week softly getting the puss out of her eye with a very damp cloth everyday, feeding her this liquid, and basically getting very attached to my favorite bunny. One eye started to become very closed, and i could not get it to open, so phoned vets again to get her in yesterday.

Went in to see the Vets, the Vet looked at her and foced her eye lid to open, and instantly started crying, i have never heard a rabbit scream before, and this one screamed so loudly and for a good 10-20 seconds, she wet her self, it really distressed me to see her in so much pain, infact it still haunts me now. The Vet said its myxomatosis and the best thing is to put her down. After a few minutes i agreed and stayed with her until the end, crying the whole time at losing my favorite bunny.

Now i just feel so guilty, i only had her just under 2 weeks and she spent half of that alone, seperated from her 2 friends, in pain, and having to put up with me forcing eye drops etc on to her, only for her final moments to have extream pain, then death.

Now i got up this morning to find the little black one has the same symptoms as the fluffy white one had this time last week, pussed up, gunged eyes, breathing through its mouth and coughing/sneezing. I am going to have to phone the Vets tommorrow, but the thought of going through this whole putting it the rabbit to sleep again is too much, its heart wrenching.

I am gussing that most of this delivery of rabbits did not die of stress as the pet shop said but of myxomatosis, and at the time it was believed these 3 were clear and not showing symptoms.

My question i suppose is, because the black/grey one had the vacination for Myxomatosis about a week and a half ago, does it stand a better chance of surviving??

Rachie
15-08-2010, 06:15 PM
I can't offer any advice or answer your question but I'm sorry for your losses xx

Jack's-Jane
15-08-2010, 06:25 PM
Having a hard time with Myxomatosis at the moment.

Originally bought my first 2 bunnys in March this year, one died suddenly in the night after 3 days of having them. The other one i got straght to the Vets the next day for a checkup and injections and she is still with me and very healthy. Because i was going to be moving home, i thought i would leave getting her any friend(s) until i had moved.

Finally got settled in new place 2 weeks ago, bought another large cage, went to the pet shop and they had just 3 females left, and all seemed very attached to each other. 1 Was a loverly floppy dwarf rabbit which a fell in love with straght away, a cute tiny little black/grey rabbit and another white/ginger one. I came wanting 2, but could not bare to split them up, since the pet shop man said most of that delivery had died due to stress and this was what had survived.

After the experience of my first 2 rabbits, i got them booked in the Vets 2 days later for first injections. My favorate one, the fluffy floppy dwarf one could not have the myxomatosis vacination because it did not seem well enough and the Vet did not want to stress the emune system too much. He gave her some other injection the other 2 got the myxomatosis injection. That did not seem to help the fluffy dwarf rabbit much and her eyes started to become all gunged up with puss, so took her back to the Vets and he tried one more injection, again i am not sure what, gave me some eye drops and some fluid to feed her using a suringe type thing.

So bought her a seperate cage and kept her indoors as she was also weesing, and coughing and sniffling. Spent all this week softly getting the puss out of her eye with a very damp cloth everyday, feeding her this liquid, and basically getting very attached to my favorite bunny. One eye started to become very closed, and i could not get it to open, so phoned vets again to get her in yesterday.

Went in to see the Vets, the Vet looked at her and foced her eye lid to open, and instantly started crying, i have never heard a rabbit scream before, and this one screamed so loudly and for a good 10-20 seconds, she wet her self, it really distressed me to see her in so much pain, infact it still haunts me now. The Vet said its myxomatosis and the best thing is to put her down. After a few minutes i agreed and stayed with her until the end, crying the whole time at losing my favorite bunny.

Now i just feel so guilty, i only had her just under 2 weeks and she spent half of that alone, seperated from her 2 friends, in pain, and having to put up with me forcing eye drops etc on to her, only for her final moments to have extream pain, then death.

Now i got up this morning to find the little black one has the same symptoms as the fluffy white one had this time last week, pussed up, gunged eyes, breathing through its mouth and coughing/sneezing. I am going to have to phone the Vets tommorrow, but the thought of going through this whole putting it the rabbit to sleep again is too much, its heart wrenching.

I am gussing that most of this delivery of rabbits did not die of stress as the pet shop said but of myxomatosis, and at the time it was believed these 3 were clear and not showing symptoms.

My question i suppose is, because the black/grey one had the vacination for Myxomatosis about a week and a half ago, does it stand a better chance of surviving??


Yes.

Does h/she have any symptoms ?

I would report the Petshop to your local Council Enviromental Health Department. It is the Council who issue the License to enable the shop to sel Livestock and it is absolutely ESSENTIAL that the Council are made aware of what has transpired.

The Rabbit who is now very ill too needs Veterinary attention TONIGHT.
If h/she is mouth breathing h/she cannot be left until the morning. Please, please get this Rabbit to a Vet tonight.

Buuny_Friend
15-08-2010, 06:30 PM
Yes.

Does h/she have any symptoms ?

I would report the Petshop to your local Council Enviromental Health Department. It is the Council who issue the License to enable the shop to sel Livestock and it is absolutely ESSENTIAL that the Council are made aware of what has transpired.

The Rabbit who is now very ill too needs Veterinary attention TONIGHT.
If h/she is mouth breathing h/she cannot be left until the morning. Please, please get this Rabbit to a Vet tonight.

I agree with this. Your rabbit sounds like he/she is in severe discomfort and needs medical attention ASAP.

I wish you the best of luck. x

Nicola1
15-08-2010, 06:34 PM
I agree that you need to see a vet tonight. The good news is that the myxomatosis vaccination can't prevent myxomatosis, but it means that it might not be fatal.

I really feel for you :( this isn't your fault, I would also report it to the local council's environmental health.

Grace65
15-08-2010, 06:34 PM
:cry: oh im so sorry what a tragic situation, is there anyway you can get him for medical help now? he sounds in discomfort, im so sorry. xxx

Kittykat23uk
15-08-2010, 06:35 PM
What a horrendous situation for you to find yourself in. :cry: Please take Jane's advice and find an emergency vet to take your bun to. There's a chance that with intensive treatment you might save this bun and the vet can also check your other one for any early signs. Are they both seperated now? Is your original bun seperate from the two remaining new ones and is she myxi vac'd? You need to isolate the ill bun straight away. Also might be a good idea to check them all for fleas in case that is what is passing it around.

quackers
15-08-2010, 06:39 PM
Thanks for the replys, i am going to try and find an emergency Vet now on the internet, Sunday evening is not the best time :( Yes they are seperated now, as the 3rd rabbit does not have any of the symptoms yet.

Kittykat23uk
15-08-2010, 06:41 PM
if you post your location someone might be able to recommend a vet. Good luck!!

quackers
15-08-2010, 06:41 PM
Its in Stoke on trent, Staffordshire.

Grace65
15-08-2010, 06:46 PM
If you are stuck for help financially and are on any benefits the pdsa will help you. xxx

Jack's-Jane
15-08-2010, 06:47 PM
Its in Stoke on trent, Staffordshire.

http://www.any-uk-vet.co.uk/county/staffordshire.htm

Good luck x

Evangeline
15-08-2010, 06:52 PM
I can't add too anything else that been said here as what I think has been said, I just wanted to say I'm sorry you had to face this tradegy and hope the other bunny is clear :(

Rachie
15-08-2010, 06:54 PM
If you call your vet, there should be a recorded message telling you who to contact for emergency treatment. My last two vets have had this x

redliz
15-08-2010, 06:58 PM
this is an awful thing to happen *hugs*

redliz
15-08-2010, 07:04 PM
Over the past few days I've noticed some type of hawk circling our area.
Apart from being an unusual I think place to see then (I live in a built up area of mainly terraced streets nowhere nearby has actual gardens ...just yards it's hardly green)
I'm worried now about the rabbit free ranging in the garden (all I do is worry about the bloody thing and it's not even mine! :roll::lol:)
Has anyone heard of hawks taking pet rabbits in a suburban situation ....a neighbour in a previous area once had a sparrow hawk kill their budgie (she'd put it in the garden in it's cage for some sun and air ) the hawk swooped ..knocked over the cage and took the bird :shock:)

:?

Grace65
15-08-2010, 07:07 PM
Over the past few days I've noticed some type of hawk circling our area.
Apart from being an unusual I think place to see then (I live in a built up area of mainly terraced streets nowhere nearby has actual gardens ...just yards it's hardly green)
I'm worried now about the rabbit free ranging in the garden (all I do is worry about the bloody thing and it's not even mine! :roll::lol:)
Has anyone heard of hawks taking pet rabbits in a suburban situation ....a neighbour in a previous area once had a sparrow hawk kill their budgie (she'd put it in the garden in it's cage for some sun and air ) the hawk swooped ..knocked over the cage and took the bird :shock:)

:?

Yes im sure it would kill a bunny:? xxx

redliz
15-08-2010, 07:12 PM
Yes im sure it would kill a bunny:? xxx

sorry I meant to post this as a new thread ....but something went wrong :oops:

Grace65
15-08-2010, 07:17 PM
sorry I meant to post this as a new thread ....but something went wrong :oops:

You know what i got all confused too, we hijacked quackers thread by mistake, im so sorry:oops: xxx

Ambience
15-08-2010, 07:58 PM
So sorry sweetie,

That's dreadful you had to go through that. I went through mixi with one of my buns, it is so terribly heartbreaking.

I would definately get your bunny to the vets. Mxyi kills very very quickly.

Your vet may be able to give something to ease the pain if there is a good chance of survival, if not putting the other to sleep would be best. It's a tremendously painful thing for a bunny to suffer.

My heart goes out to you having to go through all this xx
Lots of vibes ********
Love Ambience xx

quackers
16-08-2010, 12:29 PM
Just an update, rang my vets emergency number yesterday, and he saw her. He did not want to put her down as she deserved a chance, he said not many rabbots survive the myxomatosis, but those rare times it does, its generally been those who have very recently had the injection for it. He gave me some anti biotics for her, now its just fingers crossed. Since she only had the vacine 10 days ago, i hope she is one of those rare case.

She is very lively at the moment, and the breathing seems to be better than yesterday with a lot less tipping of the head in the air.

Starlight
16-08-2010, 12:46 PM
Hi there,

I would go back to your vets and demand s/he also has metacam and fucithulmic eye drops.

Think how much discomfort your other bunny was in- this one will be feeling the same. The metacam is a painkiller and anti-inflammatory.
The fucithulmic is to keep the eyes moist and from drying out when they are shut most of the time.

Gemmapookie
16-08-2010, 12:53 PM
Is your vet rabbit savvy? Im just abit shocked that he prized the poor buns eyes open causing it agony and hast prescribed metacam or eye drops for the other bun :shock:

Is there another vet nearby who you could get a second opinion from, an exotics specialist would be best. I just think that to make keeping this bun alive in the pain he will be suffering worthwhile, you need to throw everything possible at the myxi and keep the bun as comfortable as possible aswell :wave:

quackers
16-08-2010, 01:07 PM
It is a small animal vet specialist. I saw some rabbit eye drops in the pet shop yesterday, will they do or do they have to be some special ones?

Starlight
16-08-2010, 01:09 PM
They will have to be fucithulmic eyedrops, and your rabbit needs metacam, I can't stress it enough. I had a mxyi bun and those two things, as well as her oxygen chamber, were the main things in nursing her.

The eye drops in the pet shop won't be any good as real strength medication are available only at vets. Ones you get in pet shops are diluted versions.

Bink
16-08-2010, 02:54 PM
Sending loads of vibes to you and the little one, please give us an update when you can xxx

quackers
20-08-2010, 11:13 AM
Well the 3rd and final rabbit that i bought as a group now has it, woke up this morning to find her eyes all well, you know how the eyes go.

The little black one that i started this thread about is still eating, and is springing about the cage, just her eyes look so sore. Hopefully the fact she is still eating and has so much life in her is a good sign.

Going the Vets in a few mins to pick up more stuff for 3rd bunny.

This 3rd Rabbit (Whisky) and the little black one (Mysty) had bonded very closely before i seperated Mysty away because of the illness.

Now they both have it can i put them back togeather? or do i need to still keep them seperate?

Rhianna
20-08-2010, 01:26 PM
All five of my buns caught myxi a couple of years ago. None had been vaccinated (through my ignorance) and they all survived - although two did die later on and I think it is because their immune system had been compromised.

I still have the other three so it is possible for buns to survive myxi. It took a lot of nursing and I was at the vet daily with one or the other of them. I didn't separate them as I thought it would add to their stress.

Hearing your bun scream in pain must have been horrendous. I am not sure I would ever trust my vet again if that happened!

I hope your buns improve and are eventually restored to happy, bouncing, bundles.

quackers
20-08-2010, 02:48 PM
How long untill you started to see improvment Rhianna? Looking at the one thats had the symptoms about a week now her eyes are starting to look more open, although look very sore around the lids, it is better than them being closed like they were a few days ago.

yvette
20-08-2010, 02:52 PM
I am so very very sorry.:(:(
(Report the pet shop too.)

Tuckerbunnies
20-08-2010, 03:09 PM
I'm so sorry about your rabbit and hope you can get it to a vet asap :(



Sparrowhawks will take young rabbits but usually it's birds and Kestrels usually take small birds and mammals.

Amy & Amber
20-08-2010, 04:35 PM
Sending vibes, i am praying for your little ones xx

Grace65
20-08-2010, 04:46 PM
Hope everything works out for your bun let us know how it all goes at the vet. xxxxxxx

Rhianna
20-08-2010, 04:50 PM
They were all at different stages so it is difficult to remember but I know it went on for a very long time and got worst before it got better. They did seem to become brighter before the outward signs - the lumps they get - disappeared. It was an incredibly stressful time - made much worst by my guilt at not having had them vaccinated.

I am paranoid about getting my current seven done on time now.

My vet was very surprised mine all pulled through - from what I have read I think some vets recommend PTS as a matter of course. I am glad I persevered.