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georgie_f
08-08-2010, 03:59 PM
So, most of you know I've had a wild rabbit in my garden since april, when it just appeared as a little baby. I've just left it, it wasn't doing any harm and my buns are all vaccinated.

Mostly, it'll spend the day hiding. Occasionally I'll look out the window to see it sniffing my buns through the mesh, when my buns go out to free range it hides as I'm out there too and it's eaten quite a few of Mum's beetroots - but it's done nothing of major concern.

I let Cloud and Barley out to free range today whilst I swept out the playhouse and all of a sudden heard a big kuffuffle on the gravel - I looked out the door to see the wild bunny was attacking Cloud :shock: Cloud legged it, with the wildie in tow, which in turn I was chasing - all three of us ran round the shed half a dozen times (I hope no one was watching!) and then Cloud shot back in the playhouse like a little thunderbolt and the wildie shot off under the playhouse. There's grey fur all round the shed now. :shock::(

I'm not sure what to do now! I let the wildie stay because my garden's safe for it and I don't think it wants to leave anyway.

Poor Cloud :(

yvette
08-08-2010, 04:10 PM
I didnt want to read and run.
I dont know what to suggest...except now I think its gotten more serious.Is Cloud ok?? No harm done????
I think personally, I would be more inclined now to try and trap Rocket humanely (i hasten to add) and remove him to more suitable accommodation.Like the woods.Hes not tame.He wouldnt mind.perhaps if hes close by you could take some goodies all the time.But its Cloud Im thinking of.

happybun
08-08-2010, 04:11 PM
i'm no expert on rabbits, but as an experienced worrier, i'm a bit worried about this! is cloud hurt?

PearlyGirl
08-08-2010, 04:13 PM
Oh no! Poor cloud, i don't really know what to suggest except maybe try to move wildie? :?

raine
08-08-2010, 04:24 PM
Think the wildie was being territorial about his garden or fearful. Can you block him in, when you let yours out. If not you will need to move him.

georgie_f
08-08-2010, 04:26 PM
Sorry, I should have added Cloud is fine! I picked her up and checked her over, she doesn't have a mark on her. From the amount of fluff trailing round the garden, you'd expect her to be half bald but I can't find any bald patches or anything. She's been moulting lately so I'd assume the wildie has tried to grab her by her fur but it's just tugged straight out. :? She was panting pretty badly so I shut her and Barley back in and gave them an ice pod. The wildie didn't go after Barley at all.

This is the first time this has ever happened - I'm assuming it's because I was hidden from view in the playhouse so I wasn't enough of a deterrent. I'm wondering if the wildie is a doe now as Jess will chase it off (just chasing, no attacking) if she spots it and I know Jess can't stand other female bunnies. I guess perhaps it's reached the dreaded hormonal age. I'm guessing that happens in wildies as well as pet buns?!.

I did find a tunnel dug under the fence the other day so I think I might see if I can kind of herd little Rocket bunny out through that and block it up afterwards.

I think I'll worry if I boot it out of the garden though :oops:

yvette
08-08-2010, 04:26 PM
Just thought...It didnt happen, but they might have bonded!! Wouldnt you have had fun then!!!:roll:

Letichia
08-08-2010, 04:27 PM
Oh no i'm sorry to read this. I'm afraid i don't have any advice other then what has already been suggested about trying to move the wildie. But i really hope Cloud is ok and no harm is done. xx

TeflonsShadow
08-08-2010, 04:42 PM
Awww, what a shame, I bet it was nice to have a little wee wildie in your garden...... although, I guess, because it is alone, its kind of missing out on its social life too..... what a sad situation..... :( Good luck with whatever you choose.

Jemma&Theo
08-08-2010, 05:45 PM
Think the wildie was being territorial about his garden or fearful. Can you block him in, when you let yours out. If not you will need to move him.

yeah, sounds like baby wildie has developed his hormones....

youthnovels
08-08-2010, 05:50 PM
Sorry didn't want to read and run but I've not really got anything worth while saying.

Poor Cloud and hope you make a decision soon enough :)

susie bun
08-08-2010, 06:13 PM
Sorry you've got such a tricky decision to make. :( It's good that Cloud is OK.:):) Her picture is one of my favourites in the Funny Bunnies book. :wave:

Tillybunny
08-08-2010, 06:16 PM
Oh thats a real shame, I remember reading and speaking to you about the wildie when it first entered your garden. Do hope everything works out well, but I am sure you will make the right decision for both Cloud and Rocket. Its very stressful sometimes being an animal lover:)

Candiflare
08-08-2010, 06:24 PM
Hmmmm... Decisions are hard.

My reasoning would be...

Cloud wants to be in the garden

Rocket wants to be in the garden

As long as they're okay when Cloud's in a run and Rocket is freeranging, that's a good start --also they can't hurt each other too much through the bars, maybe it will be okay?

I find it mine are freeranging and I'm cleaning out the shed then I pop out every five minutes and it keeps the cats away. Could you do that when you're cleaning the playhouse?

The only other option I could contemplate is catching Rocket, getting her spayed and then bunny proofing the garden and giving her a home freerange in the garden. I know it's a ridiculous option, but I'd be too worried about her if you blocked her out! :(

georgie_f
08-08-2010, 06:29 PM
Thanks for all the replies guys :) I've just been back down the garden finishing re-turfing Cloud and Barley's run and she's been 'helping' me by lying right in the way :roll: She certainly doesn't seem too bothered by her encounter but I'll keep an eye on her anyway. I'm a little concerned she could have a bite wound or something I might have missed but I think that's just me being a bit dramatic!

http://a.imageshack.us/img534/9545/dsc00649h.jpg (http://img534.imageshack.us/i/dsc00649h.jpg/)

I'm going to pop some tasty looking goodies round the tunnel under the fence tonight and hope Rocket hops through. It must of been him/her/it that dug it in the first place so presumably he's visited nextdoor before! :lol: If I see him go through, I'll block up the hole behind him. Nextdoor's garden isn't fenced, it just has a hedge, so he'll be able to hop off and hopefully he'll find his way to the field over the road as there's hundreds of wildies over there. If he won't go through the tunnel, I'll have to look into a humane trap again.

For now, I'll only be letting my buns out when I'm able to sit and watch them all the time. I don't think it would have happened if I wasn't hidden from view in the playhouse. :oops::(

thumps_
08-08-2010, 06:31 PM
How very difficult, I'm inclined to think like yvette. Either way it's a difficult decision, but a doe stands a much better chance in the wild cos she can dig a burrow.

georgie_f
08-08-2010, 06:34 PM
Hmmmm... Decisions are hard.

My reasoning would be...

Cloud wants to be in the garden

Rocket wants to be in the garden

As long as they're okay when Cloud's in a run and Rocket is freeranging, that's a good start --also they can't hurt each other too much through the bars, maybe it will be okay?

I find it mine are freeranging and I'm cleaning out the shed then I pop out every five minutes and it keeps the cats away. Could you do that when you're cleaning the playhouse?

The only other option I could contemplate is catching Rocket, getting her spayed and then bunny proofing the garden and giving her a home freerange in the garden. I know it's a ridiculous option, but I'd be too worried about her if you blocked her out! :(

I do kind of think it'd be ok for Rocket to stay if I made sure I was never out of view again. I also wonder if he'd come out from under the playhouse (that seems to be where he lives) as I was crashing about above him with the dustpan and may have startled him.

I've never seen him fight with my buns before. Jess will chase him across the garden but he's much too fast for her so she gives up after 15 metres or so! :lol: Rocket used to follow Brian round as if they were bonded when he was a littl'un.

Perhaps I'll see what happens when I let the other buns out to free-range. If it's just Cloud he's got a problem with then I'll just have to keep her shut in - she has plenty of space with the playhouse and run :)

Ooohhh, I hate making decisions!

Jenova
08-08-2010, 06:39 PM
I'd let the wildie stay. :oops:

fluffiebunnie
08-08-2010, 07:05 PM
Poor Cloud and poor Wildie.... sad situation all round.. I would try and capture/neuter the wildie and let him live free range in my garden... could that work?

georgie_f
08-08-2010, 07:12 PM
I'm not sure I'd be able to find a vet that would be willing to neuter Rocket. I think, by law, they're not allowed to charge for wildlife. When I found a hedgehog, my usual vet refused to see him. I took the hedgie to the RSPCA vet in the end but they didn't seem to want to give him any medicine at all, even though his head was swollen up. :? I suppose I could try and get away with saying Rocket's a pet?! Depends how daft the vet is I guess! :lol:

steph182
08-08-2010, 07:22 PM
I'm not sure I'd be able to find a vet that would be willing to neuter Rocket. I think, by law, they're not allowed to charge for wildlife. When I found a hedgehog, my usual vet refused to see him. I took the hedgie to the RSPCA vet in the end but they didn't seem to want to give him any medicine at all, even though his head was swollen up. :? I suppose I could try and get away with saying Rocket's a pet?! Depends how daft the vet is I guess! :lol:

Quite a lot of wildies are pets if theyve been hand raised. Can always just say you found him orphaned and he just never lost his wild tendencies?

antigone
08-08-2010, 08:10 PM
I'd let the wildie stay. :oops:

So would I! :oops:

donnamt
08-08-2010, 08:13 PM
can you block the wild bun out of your garden? its either that of not letting Cloud freerange i think :(

glad all is ok though :love::love:

georgie_f
08-08-2010, 08:30 PM
can you block the wild bun out of your garden? its either that of not letting Cloud freerange i think :(

glad all is ok though :love::love:

Yeah, if I see him hop through the tunnel under the fence, I can block him out but I suspect he might just dig back in. :?

I'm a bit torn between blocking him out or letting him stay and just not letting Cloud out unless I'm watching her like a hawk. If I'm obviously in the garden, the wildie stays hidden. To be fair - I should be watching her like a hawk anyway. It could have easily been a cat rather than the wildie :oops:

I also find him being in the garden kind of reassuring as I know if he's still about, there are no threats to my bunnies in the garden.

I was all for blocking him out when it first happened but now I'm wondering about letting him stay and just growing an extra pair of eyes in the back of my head! :lol::)

donnamt
08-08-2010, 08:31 PM
there ya go... sorted if you grow more eyes :D:D:lol::lol::lol::lol:

georgie_f
08-08-2010, 08:33 PM
:lol::lol::lol:

I could get some of those novelty specs with the wing mirrors on!

antigone
08-08-2010, 08:41 PM
Yeah, if I see him hop through the tunnel under the fence, I can block him out but I suspect he might just dig back in. :?

I'm a bit torn between blocking him out or letting him stay and just not letting Cloud out unless I'm watching her like a hawk. If I'm obviously in the garden, the wildie stays hidden. To be fair - I should be watching her like a hawk anyway. It could have easily been a cat rather than the wildie :oops:

I also find him being in the garden kind of reassuring as I know if he's still about, there are no threats to my bunnies in the garden.

I was all for blocking him out when it first happened but now I'm wondering about letting him stay and just growing an extra pair of eyes in the back of my head! :lol::)

:thumb: I think that you've made the right decision! :D

georgie_f
08-08-2010, 11:13 PM
:thumb: I think that you've made the right decision! :D

;):thumb:

If Rocket does it again whilst I'm watching, I think he'll have to go though. :(

antigone
08-08-2010, 11:25 PM
;):thumb:

If Rocket does it again whilst I'm watching, I think he'll have to go though. :(

I hope that never happens. Fingers crossed xxx

VickiP
08-08-2010, 11:33 PM
;):thumb:

If Rocket does it again whilst I'm watching, I think he'll have to go though. :(

I would block Rocket coming in till they are put away, he is probably viewing that as his garden and he is territorial, i wouldn't risk it personally. Your rabbits come first, i would unblock when they are secured, can't you use an old hutch but just leave it open and feed him but, let him come and go? At least that way if he eats he might hop off for the day:lol:

Actually scrub that because your in effect taming him then and he will think he can trust humans and could end up shot, no sorry I think I would send him back into the wild or keep him as a pet.

Coineanach
08-08-2010, 11:38 PM
Oh dear. :( *nose rubs* to Cloudie.

Much as it sucks to hear it, your own buns' safety is more important than the wildie. :( I think you've made a good choice in that, if Rocket leaves through the tunnel, s/he dosen't come back. It's a no-win situation all round but you can't be watching it all the time unfortunately. Rocket will survive just fine, s/he did before. :)

I wouldn't capture him/get him neutered because at the end of the day he is still a wild animal, and it's not fair.

VickiP
09-08-2010, 12:11 AM
It is a dilemma this one I don't envy you on this, i honestly don't know what I'd do :? Have been thinking about it and would just feel so awful blocking him out and equally bad keeping him as a pet, is there no way you can build a massive run for your's?

georgie_f
09-08-2010, 02:13 AM
I can't really block him out before I let mine out, as more often than not he's already in the garden, under the playhouse. I can block him under there but I'd worry I'd forget to unblock him :oops: Memory isn't my strongest point! I wonder if he went for Cloud because he's living below the playhouse and she's above. Cloud and Barley must be all he can smell all day when he's sat in his territory. :?: I was also hidden from view so I should think he thought the coast was clear to come out.

Cloud and Barley have their playhouse with a 6.5X3 foot run so I think they'd have enough space if I didn't let them out to free range. I have enough space to extend the run by another 3-4 feet but it can't be any wider as it runs round the back of the trio's shed.

I'm pretty sure they'd be ok free ranging so long as I was an obvious presence in the garden and kept a much closer eye on them. The wildie has never gone for any of my other bunnies and he doesn't try to harm any of them whilst they're in their houses.

I'm going to see what happens next time I let them out. If it happens again I'll have three options
- Shoo him away and block him out.
- Leave him be and don't let C&B out to free range.
- Build a big run.
I guess I'll worry about that decision if it happens again. :(

VickiP
09-08-2010, 09:16 AM
I can't really block him out before I let mine out, as more often than not he's already in the garden, under the playhouse. I can block him under there but I'd worry I'd forget to unblock him :oops: Memory isn't my strongest point! I wonder if he went for Cloud because he's living below the playhouse and she's above. Cloud and Barley must be all he can smell all day when he's sat in his territory. :?: I was also hidden from view so I should think he thought the coast was clear to come out.

Cloud and Barley have their playhouse with a 6.5X3 foot run so I think they'd have enough space if I didn't let them out to free range. I have enough space to extend the run by another 3-4 feet but it can't be any wider as it runs round the back of the trio's shed.

I'm pretty sure they'd be ok free ranging so long as I was an obvious presence in the garden and kept a much closer eye on them. The wildie has never gone for any of my other bunnies and he doesn't try to harm any of them whilst they're in their houses.

I'm going to see what happens next time I let them out. If it happens again I'll have three options
- Shoo him away and block him out.
- Leave him be and don't let C&B out to free range.
- Build a big run.
I guess I'll worry about that decision if it happens again. :(

Mmmm yes I think your going to have assume he is like a cat or something and really check around before you let yours out, if he's not in you could always temporarily block his entry just till yours are in again. As you said if he has a whole to get in - in theory anything could come in! Best of luck with it, hopefully it was a one off.

georgie_f
09-08-2010, 01:22 PM
Well, the good news is, I've had the trio out most of the morning and the wildie's ignored them. He's definately under the playhouse but he's made no attempt to come out whilst I was sat there. I've just shut them back in and come in for lunch. I might be brave and try and let Cloud and Barley out again when I go back out.

I suppose it's possible that Cloud got some good nips in too so hopefully little Rocket will think twice before doing that again. :) Anyway, today, so far so good!

Jenova
09-08-2010, 03:31 PM
Maybe Cloud went sniffing under the playhouse?
You could always let them out supervised and clean the playhouse when they're still in it.