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Spaying a bun with pasturella?
- Thread starter Ambience
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My buns that just have eye problems and it isn't affecting breathing- i think it is worth giving these ago. I wouldn't do it for adonia i don't think though as she struggles with her breathing when she gets stressed out. Is lily likely to get better- or is it ongoing?
Ambience xx
rngpwelfare
Mama Doe
The snuffles rabbit here has been successfully neutered, with no problems.Although we did give him antibiotic's for a couple of days before and after. Just in case in set anything off.
As long as your vet is aware and willing to do what they need to. To get rabbit through the operation safely then it shouldn't be a problem.
As long as your vet is aware and willing to do what they need to. To get rabbit through the operation safely then it shouldn't be a problem.
Santa
Wise Old Thumper
I still remain unconvinced that the problem here is a 'pasteurella outbreak' as such. I think there is something else going on which has caused a bacterial overgrowth (which may or may not be pasteurella) - something like tooth root overgrowth causing irritation/infection of the tear ducts, and/or irritation from something about their living environment.
I would aim to get the infection as under control as possible and then get a good bunny savvy vet to do it. Maybe the boys first as it is a simpler operation, much shorter GA etc. If I were you, I would also ask them to take a swab or a flush and get it sent off for culture and sensitivity testing (although this would mean that the bun would have to come off antibiotics for a while prior to the test) and skull x-rays to see what is happening with the tooth roots. Have they had tear duct flushes, or an attempt at it to see if the tear duct is 'passable'. Some vets can do it awake but again it might be worth discussing doing it under GA at the same time; it depends how long it would all take and whether your vet is happy with that. Apart from clearing out some of the goo which could then be sent for analysis, it could help by clarifying whether the infection is caused by blocked tear ducts.
Santa had several GA dentals in her years as a snuffle bun and never had any problems. I also had a chronic snuffly french lop neutered a few years ago without any problems. As an owner I certainly wouldn't have any worries about putting a bun with infected tear ducts under a GA
You may find that by getting them 'done' and hopefully bonded, they will groom each others eyes and help to prevent the tear duct infection getting built up.
I would aim to get the infection as under control as possible and then get a good bunny savvy vet to do it. Maybe the boys first as it is a simpler operation, much shorter GA etc. If I were you, I would also ask them to take a swab or a flush and get it sent off for culture and sensitivity testing (although this would mean that the bun would have to come off antibiotics for a while prior to the test) and skull x-rays to see what is happening with the tooth roots. Have they had tear duct flushes, or an attempt at it to see if the tear duct is 'passable'. Some vets can do it awake but again it might be worth discussing doing it under GA at the same time; it depends how long it would all take and whether your vet is happy with that. Apart from clearing out some of the goo which could then be sent for analysis, it could help by clarifying whether the infection is caused by blocked tear ducts.
Santa had several GA dentals in her years as a snuffle bun and never had any problems. I also had a chronic snuffly french lop neutered a few years ago without any problems. As an owner I certainly wouldn't have any worries about putting a bun with infected tear ducts under a GA
You may find that by getting them 'done' and hopefully bonded, they will groom each others eyes and help to prevent the tear duct infection getting built up.
That's good to know. I definately like to get them all done eventually. Perhaps not adonia as she is in no contact with other buns, but definately the rest of the bunch.
I still remain unconvinced that the problem here is a 'pasteurella outbreak' as such. I think there is something else going on which has caused a bacterial overgrowth (which may or may not be pasteurella) - something like tooth root overgrowth causing irritation/infection of the tear ducts, and/or irritation from something about their living environment.
I would aim to get the infection as under control as possible and then get a good bunny savvy vet to do it. Maybe the boys first as it is a simpler operation, much shorter GA etc. If I were you, I would also ask them to take a swab or a flush and get it sent off for culture and sensitivity testing (although this would mean that the bun would have to come off antibiotics for a while prior to the test) and skull x-rays to see what is happening with the tooth roots. Have they had tear duct flushes, or an attempt at it to see if the tear duct is 'passable'. Some vets can do it awake but again it might be worth discussing doing it under GA at the same time; it depends how long it would all take and whether your vet is happy with that. Apart from clearing out some of the goo which could then be sent for analysis, it could help by clarifying whether the infection is caused by blocked tear ducts.
Santa had several GA dentals in her years as a snuffle bun and never had any problems. I also had a chronic snuffly french lop neutered a few years ago without any problems. As an owner I certainly wouldn't have any worries about putting a bun with infected tear ducts under a GA
You may find that by getting them 'done' and hopefully bonded, they will groom each others eyes and help to prevent the tear duct infection getting built up.
The boys have had problems for about a year now, eye problems been on lots of different antibiotics. I think they would make it through an op fine. None of my buns have ever stopped eating, except perhaps after neutering for 24 hours, but that is all. I think you are right about getting the males done.
My vets wont do flushes when there is an infection, which doesn't seem to clear up, it almost seems to go- but it's stubborn and resists going completely. Every course of antibiotics seems just that little bit too weak and not long enough. I'll get some swabs done pronto.
I think i'll ask about getting blaze and patch done- they are side by side at the moment, they did mutual grooming when i was doing there meds together, but i stopped doing that as i didn't want any problems with them and thought it best to wait until they are neutered before having them side by side.
Thanks for your help on this- i don't really know how to approach my vet about tooth xrays. Do you know how much they are likely to cost by the way,?
Thanks
Ambience xx
