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tiny poos - not diet related. help please

lauraandmike

lauraandmike

Warren Scout
hello
one of my buns has very very tiny poos. her partners are fine. they get 2 egg cups of pellets a day and veg, and ive cut the veg down but they are still tiny.
she has had 2 bouts of stasis in the last couple of months. she has metacam and zen?? for this, and had check ups at the vets, who cant see anything wrong.

i read somewhere this could be a blockage, of perhaps hair?

i have searched this website but not come up with any answers.

any ideas??
thanks
laura
 
How much hay do they eat? Hay should be at least 80% of their diet, so if your bun's not getting enough fibre it may make their tummy slow down.
Does he drink enough water? If his gut is slowing down he will need to keep hydrated.
Or teeth problems?

Either way I think a vet trip is needed. How bunny savvy is your vet?
 
Does she drink much? Is she eating more grass now? That makes the poos very dark, not usually small though.

Fresh pineapple is supposed to be good for fur blockages but my buns won't touch it.

Sorry I am not much help. I am sure someone with more knowledge will be along soon.
 
Hi thanks
she eats hay non stop, and has access to lots of water. her teeth are fine and have regular checks. the vet is supposed to be a rabbit specialist. and she eats a bit of grass whilst out.

what about papaya tablets or something? only a guess, saw somethiing about this.............

i suppose its back to the vets !!
 
lauraandmike said:
hello
one of my buns has very very tiny poos. her partners are fine. they get 2 egg cups of pellets a day and veg, and ive cut the veg down but they are still tiny.
she has had 2 bouts of stasis in the last couple of months. she has metacam and zen?? for this, and had check ups at the vets, who cant see anything wrong.

i read somewhere this could be a blockage, of perhaps hair?

i have searched this website but not come up with any answers.

any ideas??
thanks
laura
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This suggests to me that your buns has NOT yet recovered from her stasis and is still clearly in ileus verging on stasis. It may be dietary related but I would be wanting a full check up asap to look for any hidden source of pain that might be ongoing. Re-establishing gut motility after a bout of stasis takes in my opinion a minimum of 2 weeks to get back up to speed properly, I feel it is likely your bun has simply not recovered yet and possibly needs a course of gut motility meds given for around 5 days (with agreement from your vet obviously) to get things back up to speed, rather than just one-off doses at times of actual full on stasis.
In the meantime - plenty of FIBRE and FLUIDS should help bring things back up to speed in her guts. For this I would suggest plenty of hay, grass, dandelions and other good sources of wild fibre offered washed and still wet to increase hydration to the guts which is a key issue in prolonged ileus.
I think a vet trip is a very good idea. :wave:
 
prettylupin said:
This suggests to me that your buns has NOT yet recovered from her stasis and is still clearly in ileus verging on stasis. It may be dietary related but I would be wanting a full check up asap to look for any hidden source of pain that might be ongoing. Re-establishing gut motility after a bout of stasis takes in my opinion a minimum of 2 weeks to get back up to speed properly, I feel it is likely your bun has simply not recovered yet and possibly needs a course of gut motility meds given for around 5 days (with agreement from your vet obviously) to get things back up to speed, rather than just one-off doses at times of actual full on stasis.
In the meantime - plenty of FIBRE and FLUIDS should help bring things back up to speed in her guts. For this I would suggest plenty of hay, grass, dandelions and other good sources of wild fibre offered washed and still wet to increase hydration to the guts which is a key issue in prolonged ileus.
I think a vet trip is a very good idea. :wave:
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ok thanks :D, gut motility meds, do they sort of flush the system out? are they given with a syringe in the mouth? she is a pain in the bum to pick up. its been much over 2 weeks since her last poorly bout. like you say, back to the vets, we all hate the vets :shock:
 
lauraandmike said:
ok thanks :D, gut motility meds, do they sort of flush the system out? are they given with a syringe in the mouth? she is a pain in the bum to pick up. its been much over 2 weeks since her last poorly bout. like you say, back to the vets, we all hate the vets :shock:
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If your vet thinks appropriate (I'm hoping they will considering the chronic nature of your bun's gut slowdown and frequency of emergency episodes) they can be given in an oral syrup form to administer at home. Both my buns love the taste of zantac and maxolon paediatric syrups and I don't have any bother giving them these meds, but others have to wrap bun in a towel to administer. My buns are kinda trained to take medicines from a syringe and I just have to offer the syringe and they'll take it, whatever it is.
I find that the best result comes from using both medicines together as they work on different ends of the guts so used simultaneously you get good overall gut prepulsions - this is what they are, they stimulate the smooth muscle of the guts to contract and help regulate peristalsis.
I think the result of the RWAF conference this year on GI stasis was that both used together is optimum. You will need to discuss all this with your vet as they are prescription only and generally only need to be given as a course for buns who have recurrent stasis or ongoing ileus rather than an isolated acute episode. It does seem your bun has the former.
Any underlying pain source must be looked for as well! :wave:
 
prettylupin said:
If your vet thinks appropriate (I'm hoping they will considering the chronic nature of your bun's gut slowdown and frequency of emergency episodes) they can be given in an oral syrup form to administer at home. Both my buns love the taste of zantac and maxolon paediatric syrups and I don't have any bother giving them these meds, but others have to wrap bun in a towel to administer. My buns are kinda trained to take medicines from a syringe and I just have to offer the syringe and they'll take it, whatever it is.
I find that the best result comes from using both medicines together as they work on different ends of the guts so used simultaneously you get good overall gut prepulsions - this is what they are, they stimulate the smooth muscle of the guts to contract and help regulate peristalsis.
I think the result of the RWAF conference this year on GI stasis was that both used together is optimum. You will need to discuss all this with your vet as they are prescription only and generally only need to be given as a course for buns who have recurrent stasis or ongoing ileus rather than an isolated acute episode. It does seem your bun has the former.
Any underlying pain source must be looked for as well! :wave:
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thanks very much, i will repeat what you have just said to the vet! :D
 
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