parsnipbun
Wise Old Thumper
Ok - so some of you may have seen this on the thread for Damson - but I thought it was worth posting separately so it might come up in searches in future.
We have always had our rabbits jabbed for VHD - and have in the past had reactions to Cyclap (leg limp, lassitude etc). However since changing to Lapinject we have had no problems.
We therefore decided to have Damson vaccinated in his regular annual vaccine 10 days ago, along with three other buns. Damson had one of his kidneys out a month ago (due to kidney stones) but had recovered very very well and quickly and had gained weight again, had good urine and bloods etc etc.
36 hours after having the vaccine I found him limp and his ears hot and not wanting to eat. (he had been fine a couple of hours before that).
We rushed him to the vet who confirmed a fever and suspected muscle inflamation (causing muscle pain) etc and immediately confirmed this was the same reaction she had seen with other buns who had had VHD vaccines - BUT only ever with Cylap before not Lapinject.
He was placed on metacam, bupronorphine, sub cut fluid etc. he was very very slow responding to any treatment and at first got worse.
The vet informed the vaccine maker who commented that there had been reports of reactions in the past including some deaths. However unlike Cylap, the reactions were NOt usually muscle pain and fever but respiratory. Deaths of pets usually occurred within 48-72 hours.
They therefore apparently suggested that this was not a reaction - a suggestion that my vet did not believe. (this is a report of a conversation I had with the vet - I did not directly hear from the vaccine company so it is second hand so to speak). They did however record it and offer to pay some of the costs.
After 3 days he seemed past the fever etc but by now was suffering from gut problems - at first stasis but then including gut spasms etc.
Obviously with only one kidney our medication options are limited - but we treated with at first metacam and metaclop and then moved to ranitidine and questran.
After a week he was still up and down - and 10 days after the vaccine he is still somehow not quite right. His eyes are not as they were but have narrowed, he does not seem so alert and mischievous. In short we feel there might have been permanent damage of some kind perhaps in the nervous systems when the vaccine resulted in muscle inflamation..
I should stress that all the other buns that had that batch are fine.
However I just wanted to warn people that there are side effects of Lapinject - we should be as careful as we always were with Cylap and also watch for other symptoms.
We are now debating what to do with our other 'special needs' bunny. although we are still confident in giving Lapinject to our well bunnies. Obviously if we were to have another bun with only one kidney - even if he was very very well like Damson - we would not give it to him.
Sorry for long post.
We have always had our rabbits jabbed for VHD - and have in the past had reactions to Cyclap (leg limp, lassitude etc). However since changing to Lapinject we have had no problems.
We therefore decided to have Damson vaccinated in his regular annual vaccine 10 days ago, along with three other buns. Damson had one of his kidneys out a month ago (due to kidney stones) but had recovered very very well and quickly and had gained weight again, had good urine and bloods etc etc.
36 hours after having the vaccine I found him limp and his ears hot and not wanting to eat. (he had been fine a couple of hours before that).
We rushed him to the vet who confirmed a fever and suspected muscle inflamation (causing muscle pain) etc and immediately confirmed this was the same reaction she had seen with other buns who had had VHD vaccines - BUT only ever with Cylap before not Lapinject.
He was placed on metacam, bupronorphine, sub cut fluid etc. he was very very slow responding to any treatment and at first got worse.
The vet informed the vaccine maker who commented that there had been reports of reactions in the past including some deaths. However unlike Cylap, the reactions were NOt usually muscle pain and fever but respiratory. Deaths of pets usually occurred within 48-72 hours.
They therefore apparently suggested that this was not a reaction - a suggestion that my vet did not believe. (this is a report of a conversation I had with the vet - I did not directly hear from the vaccine company so it is second hand so to speak). They did however record it and offer to pay some of the costs.
After 3 days he seemed past the fever etc but by now was suffering from gut problems - at first stasis but then including gut spasms etc.
Obviously with only one kidney our medication options are limited - but we treated with at first metacam and metaclop and then moved to ranitidine and questran.
After a week he was still up and down - and 10 days after the vaccine he is still somehow not quite right. His eyes are not as they were but have narrowed, he does not seem so alert and mischievous. In short we feel there might have been permanent damage of some kind perhaps in the nervous systems when the vaccine resulted in muscle inflamation..
I should stress that all the other buns that had that batch are fine.
However I just wanted to warn people that there are side effects of Lapinject - we should be as careful as we always were with Cylap and also watch for other symptoms.
We are now debating what to do with our other 'special needs' bunny. although we are still confident in giving Lapinject to our well bunnies. Obviously if we were to have another bun with only one kidney - even if he was very very well like Damson - we would not give it to him.
Sorry for long post.
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