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dayle_x
21-11-2009, 03:57 PM
This morning my 3 rabbits in the garage, Pixie, Phoenix and Tallulah were all laid in a pile of diarrhoea. Rushed them all to the vets, tallulah had to be put to sleep:cry:, and Pixie & Phoenix got an antibiotic, pain killer, steriod and gut stimulant injection and told to come back tomorrow, keep them warm, try get them to eat some critical care. Pixie is acting normal, eating critical care and had a bit of banana but no hay/pellets. Phoenix won't eat anything.
Is it because the injections haven't kicked in yet? He had them about an hour and a half ago.
They are in the house now.
What else can i do? Please help :(

My uncle decided to tell me when i got home, oh by the way there is poison in the concrete of the garage, so if they lick it they could get poison. Despite me asking if they were safe to go in there about a year ago before i let them free range. I am sooo angry at him :censored:

VickiP
21-11-2009, 04:01 PM
This morning my 3 rabbits in the garage, Pixie, Phoenix and Tallulah were all laid in a pile of diarrhoea. Rushed them all to the vets, tallulah had to be put to sleep:cry:, and Pixie & Phoenix got an antibiotic, pain killer, steriod and gut stimulant injection and told to come back tomorrow, keep them warm, try get them to eat some critical care. Pixie is acting normal, eating critical care and had a bit of banana but no hay/pellets. Phoenix won't eat anything.
Is it because the injections haven't kicked in yet? He had them about an hour and a half ago.
They are in the house now.
What else can i do? Please help :(

My uncle decided to tell me when i got home, oh by the way there is poison in the concrete of the garage, so if they lick it they could get poison. Despite me asking if they were safe to go in there about a year ago before i let them free range. I am sooo angry at him :censored:

:( OMG your poor thing, let's hope it wasn't them licking the concrete, I am so sorry for you and hope the others will be OK it sounds like your doing all you can. What did your vet say - that it looked like poisoning?

Sky-O
21-11-2009, 04:02 PM
How horrible, I'm really sorry.

Are the sure the diarrhoea is coming from all of them? I would be questioning whether maybe the vets should have kept them in if they think it is poisoning. I would also be thinking hydration is probably the most important thing for them right now to replace the fluids they have lost. You can syringe cooled boiled water, or dioralyte (following the baby instructions on it), and also try and tempt them with a variety of other liquids too.

How are they acting other than not eating?

Buuny_Friend
21-11-2009, 04:04 PM
OMG! :shock: I am so sorry :(

I agree with Sky-O. Do the other 2 still have diarrhoea?

Stephy
21-11-2009, 04:05 PM
Oh poor you, am really sorry :( As for the other two, all you can do is keep an eye on them and take back to vets if they're still not eating, or give them some syringe feed xx

dayle_x
21-11-2009, 04:06 PM
Yes they said it looks like poisoning. Pixie is covered in poo, but is acting perfectly normal, snuggling up to Phoenix. Phoenix is very clean so don't know if he has had diarrhoea. He is just sat asleep in his carry case. Haven't seen them do any poo's since i got them home.
Is it worth trying to sryinge some water into them?

LilVicky
21-11-2009, 04:07 PM
im so sorry for your loss, i hope your other two recover well x

Sky-O
21-11-2009, 04:08 PM
Did they have any hydration at the vets? Like Sub-Q fluids?

If not, then yes, I would syringe something if it is not stressful for them. What did the vet suggest for the poisoning? Also, have you been given anything like Fibreplex to help their guts settle?

abbymarysmokey
21-11-2009, 04:10 PM
I doubt it would be from licking concrete if it was part of the building (I guess a bag of powdered concrete might be different though?)

My first thought would be coccidiosis if more than one rabbit is affected.

Have you had any new rabbits arrive recently?

dayle_x
21-11-2009, 04:11 PM
Did they have any hydration at the vets? Like Sub-Q fluids?

If not, then yes, I would syringe something if it is not stressful for them. What did the vet suggest for the poisoning? Also, have you been given anything like Fibreplex to help their guts settle?

Nope no sub-q fluids. I'll try sryinge some. The vet just said to try get them well again, and to eat and poo. Haven't had any fibreplex, just got some oxbow critical care but she gave them a gut stimulant injection

dayle_x
21-11-2009, 04:12 PM
I doubt it would be from licking concrete if it was part of the building (I guess a bag of powdered concrete might be different though?)

My first thought would be coccidiosis if more than one rabbit is affected.

Have you had any new rabbits arrive recently?

Yes had a new bun but she has had no contact with them. What is coccidiosis?

Sky-O
21-11-2009, 04:13 PM
I'm not sure your vets sounds wonderfully good at treating rabbits to be honest, is there anywhere else they could be taken, that know rabbits more?

dayle_x
21-11-2009, 04:16 PM
I'm not sure your vets sounds wonderfully good at treating rabbits to be honest, is there anywhere else they could be taken, that know rabbits more?

Not sure, have always used this vets and they have been ok. i would imagine other vets would be shut now apart from emergency vets who i've had very bad experiences with taking rabbits there

abbymarysmokey
21-11-2009, 04:24 PM
Yes had a new bun but she has had no contact with them. What is coccidiosis?

http://www.medirabbit.com/EN/GI_diseases/Protozoal_diseases/coccidiosis_general.PDF

and

http://www.galensgarden.co.uk/herbivores/health/coccidiosis.php

The new bun doesn't actually need to have been in direct contact with the others. It's spread via poop...so can spread through sharing the same exercise area, cleaning out using the same dustpan and brush, etc

dayle_x
21-11-2009, 04:31 PM
Will have a read of those. Only think i use the same is using the same poop scooper.

Pixie and Phe have both had some water now and Phe has eaten 3 fenugreek crunchies but turns his nose up at anything else.

VickiP
21-11-2009, 04:46 PM
Will have a read of those. Only think i use the same is using the same poop scooper.

Pixie and Phe have both had some water now and Phe has eaten 3 fenugreek crunchies but turns his nose up at anything else.

Good luck Dayle hope they will be alright p/s where do you get the fenugreek crunchies from?

dayle_x
21-11-2009, 04:52 PM
Good luck Dayle hope they will be alright p/s where do you get the fenugreek crunchies from?

I got them from pets@home before they stopped selling them, think you can still get them online tho

VickiP
21-11-2009, 04:54 PM
I got them from pets@home before they stopped selling them, think you can still get them online tho

Thanks I keep looking in P@H and the local pet shop (no small furries sold there) but, can't find them? Will google them, hope your buns pick up x

dayle_x
21-11-2009, 06:57 PM
Just an update - Pixie and Phe have eaten some spring greens, had some water and hay. Neither of them want their pellets though. They seem much brighter but still no wee's or poo's :/

VickiP
21-11-2009, 06:59 PM
Just an update - Pixie and Phe have eaten some spring greens, had some water and hay. Neither of them want their pellets though. They seem much brighter but still no wee's or poo's :/

Thats progress, fingers crossed for you - lots of wee wee and poop vibes now :lol:x

raine
21-11-2009, 07:56 PM
I am so sorry about your bunnies. If they have been in the garage a year, it does seem unlikely that they would now become ill from licking the floor if they have been free ranging for a year

Could they have had too much veg yesterday as this always gives my bunnies diarrhoea? Have they eaten anything else different. The other bunny may have come in with something?

dayle_x
21-11-2009, 08:22 PM
I am so sorry about your bunnies. If they have been in the garage a year, it does seem unlikely that they would now become ill from licking the floor if they have been free ranging for a year

Could they have had too much veg yesterday as this always gives my bunnies diarrhoea? Have they eaten anything else different. The other bunny may have come in with something?

Nope yesterday they just had half a banana each which they do maybe once a week
had nothing else different. do you mean the new bunny could of brought an illness in?

raine
21-11-2009, 08:36 PM
Its so hard to try and find out why a bunny is ill. You have to exclude any causes, which is why I asked had they eaten anything like veg which could have caused it.

I notice Tallulah was only 5 months old. Had she been well since you got her?

When your uncle said poison was on the floor of the garage, what did he exactly mean. Was the floor painted with a toxic material or was poison spilt on it? Did your vet think they had been poisoned?

I would ensure that the sick bunnies eat and drink tonight

Jaysmonkey
21-11-2009, 08:42 PM
Oh no, lots of vibes for your babies :(, so sorry about Tallulah, sleep tight little one. :cry:

dayle_x
21-11-2009, 09:06 PM
Its so hard to try and find out why a bunny is ill. You have to exclude any causes, which is why I asked had they eaten anything like veg which could have caused it.

I notice Tallulah was only 5 months old. Had she been well since you got her?

When your uncle said poison was on the floor of the garage, what did he exactly mean. Was the floor painted with a toxic material or was poison spilt on it? Did your vet think they had been poisoned?

I would ensure that the sick bunnies eat and drink tonight

Tallulah was fine since we got her.
My uncle said that there is poison in the cement thats makes the floor. Vet also thinks they had been poisoned.

raine
21-11-2009, 09:35 PM
I see its in the cement. Did he put it down and does he know the make? You can then go on the internet and identify the poison.
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w1lll
21-11-2009, 09:35 PM
Tallulah was fine since we got her.
My uncle said that there is poison in the cement thats makes the floor. Vet also thinks they had been poisoned.

Would it be possible, as horrible as it may seem that the poisoning could be due to human activity?

dayle_x
21-11-2009, 09:39 PM
Would it be possible, as horrible as it may seem that the poisoning could be due to human activity?

I did think it could of been slipped under the garage door :cry: I know people in the street don't like me :(

Will ask my uncle when i next see him

Rhian33
21-11-2009, 09:41 PM
It does seem a little odd tha =t it could have been the cement as people do DIY/have the builders in all the time without things going wrong.

Really sorry for what happened by the way. Must be horrible :(

raine
21-11-2009, 09:55 PM
Dayle, this isn't the uncle who killed his own rabbits is it? Could he have done something?

I will be thinking about you tonight and hoping your two bunnies improve.

Bungle bunny
21-11-2009, 10:27 PM
Sending lots and lots of get well vibes. So sorry for terrible situation

Happy Hopping
22-11-2009, 09:19 AM
I would separate all 3 in 3 different rooms, I would definitely kill any bananas.

raine
22-11-2009, 01:03 PM
How are they this morning Dayle? Are they eating and pooing?

dayle_x
22-11-2009, 01:25 PM
Lots of healthy golden poos, they are munching on lots of hay and their pellets :) they are flopped in front of the fire now, I think they are going to be ok :D

and no, this was a different uncle, however both my uncles are horrible to animals! :(

raine
22-11-2009, 01:33 PM
It must be such a relief to you they are doing okay.

You could put lino down in the garage to cover the floor, but I would check with the manufacturer of the floor whats on it first.

dayle_x
22-11-2009, 01:35 PM
they are meant to being bonded to my group to live in the shed. I daren't put them in the garage again so need to wait while I have a couple of days to do the bonding