rabbit suffering from overgrown molar roots.

for the last week my french lop Pierre had been picking at his food (his molars dont align properly so he has them burred every few months) i booked him but after his dental when i spoke to the vet he explained that several of his upper molars were 'falling' out. when they did an xray it showed that the roots of two of his upper molars were not growing straight but were curling upwards putting pressure on his sinuses (despite this Pierre had no nasal discharge/weepy eyes etc..) and the roots of his lower molars were so long that they had nearly broken through his lower jaw bone. infection was widespread around the overgrown roots.
his recant infection in his inner ear was not caused by infection moving through the bone due to an abcess in the mouth that pierre had previously suffered but due to an infection in the bone that was draining into his ear.
pierre is now on antibitics and (a huge dose...1.5ml) of metacam but i think this is the begining of the end of my boy.
there was no sign of any of this when he had his last dental 4 months ago and other than his appatite this last week he had shown no signs of discomfort and exhibited a change in behavior. i cant believe im now almost certainly faced with one of the hardest choices i've ever had a make.
if anyone has any surgestions, of experiance of similar any help would be greatly appreciated.

Hi, one of my bunnies was diagnosed just over two years ago with the roots having grown through his lower jaw.

He too showed no signs before it before he started to be unsettled one day.

Anyway, his condition is now "kept under control" by monthly dentals and he is very happy. I don't wait for any signs, he is booked in as a matter of routine.

I know that everyone's bunny is different but I do hope that your vet can help Pierre.

Edit - the new Bunnymad magazine has an article on teeth which may be worth you getting.

Poor boy

What antibiotic is he on ?

2ml of baytrl once daily.
the vet didnt think they could cure him just manage the infection to give him as much time as they could. hes due back monday but im going to take him in again tomorrow. one of his eyes is weeping but the liquid smells bad? infection draining through sinuses?

maxxev said:

2ml of baytrl once daily.
the vet didnt think they could cure him just manage the infection to give him as much time as they could. hes due back monday but im going to take him in again tomorrow. one of his eyes is weeping but the liquid smells bad? infection draining through sinuses?

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Possibly Is his eye bulging ?

As far as abx go would your Vet prescribe off licence ?
If so a Tetracycline may be more beneficial than Baytril. Tetracyclines have good tissue penetration including bone and teeth.
Metronidazole might also be useful

thank you jane.

....' Possibly Is his eye bulging ?'.......
not that i can see. no inflamation...no nasal discharge either.
his other eye now has the same..tiny bit begining to collect in the corner but it smells the same.

..'As far as abx go would your Vet prescribe off licence ?
If so a Tetracycline may be more beneficial than Baytril.'.......

i will ask tomorrow. considering pierre's condition and the alternative i cant see them objecting.

maxxev said:

just manage the infection to give him as much time as they could. .

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Good luck at the vets tomorrow, hopefully they will prescribe the meds Jane has suggested.

the discharge from Pierre's eyes is worse this morning, it still smells unpleasant too. (though he is eating a lot more..he even came over this morning to see what i was eating for breakfast )



i let him run with the girls, neither of them attempted to groom his face (i imagine it tastes as bad as it smells) kyi sniffed at it once and moved away from him.

do i need to seperate them completely (hes been eperated since the op so i can see what he is eating and though kyi can see him she dosn't like being seperated from him)....can infection spread to them if they ingest the discharge?

Poor wee sweetheart, vibes for his comfort and for him having a great time with his mummy xx

maxxev said:

the discharge from Pierre's eyes is worse this morning, it still smells unpleasant too. (though he is eating a lot more..he even came over this morning to see what i was eating for breakfast )

i let him run with the girls, neither of them attempted to groom his face (i imagine it tastes as bad as it smells) kyi sniffed at it once and moved away from him.

do i need to seperate them completely (hes been eperated since the op so i can see what he is eating and though kyi can see him she dosn't like being seperated from him)....can infection spread to them if they ingest the discharge?

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Personally I would keep them seperate til you have seen the Vet.
IMO (unqualified) it is possible to cross infect from ingestion of purulent occular/nasal secretions and I would not risk it in a multi Rabbit environment

Good luck at the Vets

xx

the vet believed that the discharge from his eyes was caused by the sudden relief of pressure on the tear ducts when the teeth were removed and that it should (hopefully) stop. he did say that it shouldn't pose a danger of cross infection with the others but i think im going to keep them seperated until it clears anyway....just in case.
hes now on 1/4 tablet of the tetracycline twice daily AS WELL as 2ml of baytril.
he said baytril acted more efficantly but as you (jane) had commented, it did penetrate bone better. between the two i hope it give my boy some relief.

maxxev said:

the vet believed that the discharge from his eyes was caused by the sudden relief of pressure on the tear ducts when the teeth were removed and that it should (hopefully) stop. he did say that it shouldn't pose a danger of cross infection with the others but i think im going to keep them seperated until it clears anyway....just in case.
hes now on 1/4 tablet of the tetracycline twice daily AS WELL as 2ml of baytril.
he said baytril acted more efficantly but as you (jane) had commented, it did penetrate bone better. between the two i hope it give my boy some relief.

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Here's hoping the additional abx gets on top of the infection

Fingers crossed the new meds will help him.