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sidereus7
07-09-2009, 10:21 PM
How often can I give my bunnies fruit juice?

I have 100% organic apple juice with no additives, and Milo is addicted. I gave him a tiny cap-full, and he was licking the cap long after it was gone! :shock: I just feel so bad that all they drink is water, and mommy gets yummy hot chocolate. Just seems unfair. :(

happybun
08-09-2009, 12:09 AM
why give your rabbits juice at all? i like ice cream but i don't give it to the bunnies. they love a green bean -me, can't stand the things. i suppose its possible a rabbit might lick the juice out of a piece of fruit in the wild...but why encourage it?

i know you're a real bunny-lover, i've read your posts! i'm not trying to criticise... but just, why?

purplebumble
08-09-2009, 12:20 AM
when im disgusing bio lapis in the water i am tempted to add fruit juices..but i save it for meds etc. i guess you could add a cap to the water bowl as a treat now and then:)

sidereus7
08-09-2009, 12:25 AM
why give your rabbits juice at all? i like ice cream but i don't give it to the bunnies. they love a green bean -me, can't stand the things. i suppose its possible a rabbit might lick the juice out of a piece of fruit in the wild...but why encourage it?

i know you're a real bunny-lover, i've read your posts! i'm not trying to criticise... but just, why?

When I had to give Milo some Baytril a week ago, he wouldn't have it. So my vet suggested mixing it with a bit of pure apple juice to make it not taste so bad. He did like the apple juice, and it made me think how boring it must be to drink water all the time.

I think apple juice is a far cry from ice cream, as far as bunny/human equivalents go. We do many things for our rabbits that aren't simulations of the wild as well. In the wild, a rabbit would live how long? 2 years? Also in the wild, my rabbit wouldn't be eating bananas, as they're tropical. Should I not feed them anything that isn't in their natural habitat?

A rabbit's system can handle a certain amount of apple juice with no consequences, and they love it. I just want to know how much is safe. I've read that the sugar isn't an issue as their teeth are cleaned when they chew pellets and hay constantly. But I am concerned about causing gut dysbiosis.

I know you're not trying to criticize, and I don't take it personally. But do you really not feed your rabbit anything outside of the "wild diet", even if it were perfectly safe to give?

honeybunny
08-09-2009, 10:33 AM
my advice would be do not give rabbits fruit juices to drink at all..unless mixing with a med which is a neccessity

They are much too sweet even without added sugars as they contain fruit sugars.

Water only for bunnies to drink..with probiotics added if needed
We must all stay away from the temptation of humanising our pets a bit too much!:D They do not yearn for your hot chocolate or anything else..so don't feel guilty!

TeflonsShadow
08-09-2009, 12:08 PM
my advice would be do not give rabbits fruit juices to drink at all..unless mixing with a med which is a neccessity

They are much too sweet even without added sugars as they contain fruit sugars.

Water only for bunnies to drink..with probiotics added if needed
We must all stay away from the temptation of humanising our pets a bit too much!:D They do not yearn for your hot chocolate or anything else..so don't feel guilty!

Lies! Rimmi wants everything and anything that I eat... check out some of my posts.... hes a naughty food theif!!

And as for human food, my rabbit Tabby (RIP) was the WORST human food stealer EVER. Whenever we had a BBQ we'd have to put her in the run, for if she was lose she would steal whatever she could get and hide.... she even stole a burger :shock: and she loved iced cream (was living with small child at the time.... he dropped his and she was licking it off the floor)

And Tabby lived to a good age... her death wasnt food related.

Someone mentioned on her diluting a bit of juice with water and misting it on hay to encourage buns to eat more hay so maybe the odd bit is ok?

I cant ever remember giving mine fruit juice..... but Rimmi has stolen Pepsi max and cold tea....

honeybunny
08-09-2009, 12:11 PM
deleted as can't be bothered to explain why a rabbit shouldn't drink Pepsi:roll:

RubyTed
08-09-2009, 12:18 PM
My vet told me off for giving the Tedster Apples!!! Too much sugar is bad for them, but the odd apple and other sugary fruit is fine! (just need to watch they don't get too fat!) If you've seen how much juice you can get out of an apple you will see that they don't need seperate juice....if you want to treat him then an apple is far better!! Using it for medicine is fair enough though!!

Rachel89
08-09-2009, 12:18 PM
I was going on the fact the person above you didnt give him pepsi max normally but he nicked abit :?

I have a bunny who has a dust allergy (yeap what a luckily sod) and when I have to soak his hay he didn't eat it at first so was recommended to dilute abit and put it in the water I was soaking it with to encourage him to eat it.

TeflonsShadow
08-09-2009, 12:26 PM
I was going on the fact the person above you didnt give him pepsi max normally but he nicked abit :?

I have a bunny who has a dust allergy (yeap what a luckily sod) and when I have to soak his hay he didn't eat it at first so was recommended to dilute abit and put it in the water I was soaking it with to encourage him to eat it.

Yeah, its really hard to keep anything safe from Rimmi, hes so nosy.... he tips glasses over... :( Not good cos I am running out of towels!

Its not at though he is starved or lacting water... he has a water bowl AND a water bottle in the living room!!

Err... naughty Rimmi, couldnt believe it when he went for the tea!

And BTW... we never let him eat the things.... or want him to, he steals and then we run after him getting them.

Rachel89
08-09-2009, 12:31 PM
I remember Blue jumping up and landing into my dinner once :lol: and he always knocks drinks over and tries to drink them :roll:

TeflonsShadow
08-09-2009, 12:33 PM
:lol:

Theyre a naughty bunch really... :p

KarenM
08-09-2009, 01:11 PM
I just feel so bad that all they drink is water, and mommy gets yummy hot chocolate. Just seems unfair. :(

Give up your hot chocolate and then you won't feel guilty. ;):lol::lol:

Seriously though, I don't think they have cravings for things, although some would happily eat/drink anything you offered to them. Just stick with the water and he'll be none the wiser about what he's missing out on. :)

clutterydrawer
08-09-2009, 06:38 PM
I really don't think rabbits have a longing for sugary treats. Sure, they enjoy them if they find them, but I don't think they miss them if they're not there.

I literally never give mine anything except hay, pellets and veg with very occasional fruit. It doesn't do them any harm and after reading how frequently buns are put in life threatening situations by eating a very small amount of something bad for them, I don't feel the need to risk it.

Bunny diets are something of a matter of opinion though so each to their own, there are few hard and fast rules. (Exceot for the hay thing. Obviously. ;) )

happybun
08-09-2009, 07:57 PM
.I know you're not trying to criticize, and I don't take it personally. But do you really not feed your rabbit anything outside of the "wild diet", even if it were perfectly safe to give?

i'm pretty sure my rabbits wouldn't get much hay and pelleted food in the wild! they'd have to forage like everybun else :D

they have hay, pellets, veggies. big treats - fancy hay, green beans, maybe a piece of apple. they drink water.

never occurred to me to give them anything else...:?

i can envisage giving juice to hide meds though. and they did once get hold of a little mango peel and spent ages licking the flesh from it... but i rarely eat mango so they don't see much around :wave:

prettylupin
08-09-2009, 08:17 PM
Me neither. I'm a mean mummy :( If it's not vegetable matter of some kind then they don't get it. Hay, grass, veg, fruit, herbs and wild plants and that's it! If I do offer them a nibble of a biscuit or something with chocolate on it they promptly turn their noses up and go away....! :shock: I take that as a lack of craving for anything human :)

yvette
08-09-2009, 08:53 PM
My little fella Beebee had a really big moult.As a result, my vet suggested a bit of pineapple juice (which apparently helps sort out the fur).
I learnt off here though that fruit juice contains so much sugar that diabetes could be the result.
Beebee, however, lapped up the juice, the furball got pooped out and hes now a happy bunny.Doesnt even ask for the juice anymore!!
The occasional apple piece or two,the odd carrot, the odd bit of banana as a little treat...along with all the carrot tops,herbs,hay,usual pellets, strawberry leaves etc etc.......I mean,crikey, my bunnies eat better than me!!!!
(BTW, I have chocolate ovalltine...its lush!!)

RubyTed
08-09-2009, 08:56 PM
Chocolate ovaltine? Is that nice? I, myself, am more of a tea fan! (Earl Gray only). Can't drink hot chocolate!

Pineapple juice is good for moults!

Snowberry
08-09-2009, 08:59 PM
Strawberry is terrible when there is food around but Snowdrop isnt bothered. Strawbs pinced a bourbon the other day and Snow just sniffed it then ran off.

He also went in the fridge while I was making a drink, grabbed a chocolate mousse and hid under the sofa with it! By the time I had moved the whole living room round to grab him he had chewed the lid of and was having a good snack on it!

yvette
08-09-2009, 09:01 PM
Strawberry is terrible when there is food around but Snowdrop isnt bothered. Strawbs pinced a bourbon the other day and Snow just sniffed it then ran off.

He also went in the fridge while I was making a drink, grabbed a chocolate mousse and hid under the sofa with it! By the time I had moved the whole living room round to grab him he had chewed the lid of and was having a good snack on it!

A bunny mouth covered in choccy mousse??? OOOh, how adorable!!! Any pics?????????

yvette
08-09-2009, 09:01 PM
Chocolate ovaltine? Is that nice? I, myself, am more of a tea fan! (Earl Gray only). Can't drink hot chocolate!

Pineapple juice is good for moults!

When I visit,I will bring up a pot!!!

Snowberry
08-09-2009, 09:02 PM
A bunny mouth covered in choccy mousse??? OOOh, how adorable!!! Any pics?????????

Like he would leave any round his mouth! He is so greedy he eats things ever so carfeully so not to waste any!

RubyTed
08-09-2009, 09:04 PM
When I visit,I will bring up a pot!!!

Not sure I'll like it but will try! I might have a sachet of ovaltine somewhere (A freebie when pregnant) which I never drank! I'll dig it out and try it!

yvette
08-09-2009, 09:06 PM
Not sure I'll like it but will try! I might have a sachet of ovaltine somewhere (A freebie when pregnant) which I never drank! I'll dig it out and try it!

Gotta be the chocolate one.....mix the powder with a little milk...then boiling water.Yummy!!!

yvette
08-09-2009, 09:07 PM
Like he would leave any round his mouth! He is so greedy he eats things ever so carfeully so not to waste any!

A relation of mine to be sure!!!!:lol::lol:

Snowberry
08-09-2009, 09:09 PM
A relation of mine to be sure!!!!:lol::lol:

You must get some really funny looks walking down the street if you have his ears!

yvette
08-09-2009, 09:11 PM
You must get some really funny looks walking down the street if you have his ears!

Tsk....Hide them under my hat!!....Honestly..........:roll::lol::lol::lol:

Lib_n_bunny
08-09-2009, 09:12 PM
Why do people have to be so judgemental in the way they say things! :roll::evil:

The Duchess
08-09-2009, 09:12 PM
But do you really not feed your rabbit anything outside of the "wild diet", even if it were perfectly safe to give?

I don't.

I might be dead strict but I seem to have happy healthy bunnies with no teeth or gut issues as a result. (famous last words probably). I wouldn't condemn others who do. I personally don't ever give fruit juice unless it's to give meds or help in a stasis situation.

Helen

Lib_n_bunny
08-09-2009, 09:13 PM
I don't.

I might be dead strict but I seem to have happy healthy bunnies with not teeth or gut issues as a result. (famous last words probably).

so you don't feed pellets? And where would a wild rabbit find 90% hay? I kno they eat a lot of grass, but hay?! and in that proportion?

The Duchess
08-09-2009, 09:15 PM
so you don't feed pellets? And where would a wild rabbit find 90% hay? I kno they eat a lot of grass, but hay?! and in that proportion?

Oh, no, I do feed pellets, but I was responding in relation to stuff that isn't needed like fruit juice. Did I misunderstand the OP?

Lib_n_bunny
08-09-2009, 09:21 PM
Oh, no, I do feed pellets, but I was responding in relation to stuff that isn't needed like fruit juice. Did I misunderstand the OP?

No, but you were responding to the OP's quote:

But do you really not feed your rabbit anything outside of the "wild diet", even if it were perfectly safe to give?

pellets are outside of the "wild diet"

clutterydrawer
08-09-2009, 09:21 PM
so you don't feed pellets? And where would a wild rabbit find 90% hay? I kno they eat a lot of grass, but hay?! and in that proportion?

my view would be that grass is equal to hay :? I don't know exactly what percentage of a wild rabbit's diet is grass, but I highly suspect they eat 90-100% fibrous vegetable material. which amounts to the same thing.

Hugo's There
08-09-2009, 09:21 PM
Yeah, its really hard to keep anything safe from Rimmi, hes so nosy.... he tips glasses over... :( Not good cos I am running out of towels!

Its not at though he is starved or lacting water... he has a water bowl AND a water bottle in the living room!!

Err... naughty Rimmi, couldnt believe it when he went for the tea!

And BTW... we never let him eat the things.... or want him to, he steals and then we run after him getting them.

Elwood is a nightmare with food, we no longer eat anything downstairs, we actually sit on the bed to eat breakfast and lunch and shut him in when we have our main meal. We can't even have hot drinks in the lounge, thankfully I only drink water but he still manages to knock that over on a regular basis.

I really would recommend keeping all human food away from Rimmi, put him in a cage while you are eating if you have too, if he eats something he shouldn't and he gets seriously ill how bad are you going to feel :(

The Duchess
08-09-2009, 09:23 PM
No, but you were responding to the OP's quote:


pellets are outside of the "wild diet"

I stand corrected, I didn't understand the correct meaning of the term wild diet then.

Hugo's There
08-09-2009, 09:25 PM
I stand corrected, I didn't understand the correct meaning of the term wild diet then.

If you are like me Helen, I am sure you only feed a tiny amount of pelleted food just to make sure they get the vitamins etc they need, the main bulk of their diet is hays and veg :wave:

I'm a right tight :censored: with manufactured foods, unless they are poorly buns that need feeding up :lol:

clutterydrawer
08-09-2009, 09:50 PM
If you are like me Helen, I am sure you only feed a tiny amount of pelleted food just to make sure they get the vitamins etc they need, the main bulk of their diet is hays and veg :wave:

I'm a right tight :censored: with manufactured foods, unless they are poorly buns that need feeding up :lol:

^^ that's what I do...they get a very tiny sprinkling of pellets on the grounds that I don't necessarily feed veg which supplies every last vitamin and mineral...it's such a small amount that I can't see it having any negative effect though.

Santa
08-09-2009, 09:57 PM
And where would a wild rabbit find 90% hay? I kno they eat a lot of grass, but hay?! and in that proportion?

Wild european rabbits originated on the iberian peninsula, where, as you will notice if you go on holiday there, the grass is very brown and crispy most of the time because of the hot, dry weather. So true wild rabbits probably did originally have a diet much more hay-like than their british cousins :)

Rox
08-09-2009, 10:04 PM
Give up your hot chocolate and then you won't feel guilty. ;):lol::lol:

Seriously though, I don't think they have cravings for things, although some would happily eat/drink anything you offered to them. Just stick with the water and he'll be none the wiser about what he's missing out on. :)

I'm guilty of giving Maisy the odd treat too. And she absolutely loves dried apricots, I only have to touch the bag and she is next to me, she also runs off with it to a corner to enjoy it by herself! Are green beans safe, I have some here for her if so :)? On a different note, just noticed the little burger has nibbled the rubber off the grip of my pen, about a whole inch of it. Obviously not good but she should be ok? :shock:

sidereus7
09-09-2009, 04:33 AM
I swear, it sounds like you guys think I want to give Milo chocolate bon-bons and Twizzlers! :lol:

Look, here's what Sara's logic was:

Rabbits can have apples as a snack.
Apples naturally contain apple juices.
Is it ok to give rabbits a tiny bit of apple juice with water once a month or so?

Is this really that insane a question? As long as it doesn't cause dysbiosis and doesn't rot the teeth, all I can see are benefits. It would encourage my rabbit to drink more, and probably put him in more of a binky mood than usual. With a "once a month" kind of frequency, I doubt my rabbit will get diabetes.

My rabbits will do tricks for raisins, but my rabbits won't do tricks for hay. So don't tell me that buns don't have preferences. ;) My rabbit's diet will still be 90% hay, and some pellets and veggies. I just want to flavor his water every once in awhile.

KarenM
09-09-2009, 06:16 AM
I'm guilty of giving Maisy the odd treat too. And she absolutely loves dried apricots, I only have to touch the bag and she is next to me, she also runs off with it to a corner to enjoy it by herself! Are green beans safe, I have some here for her if so :)? On a different note, just noticed the little burger has nibbled the rubber off the grip of my pen, about a whole inch of it. Obviously not good but she should be ok? :shock:

I'm not sure about green beans - I have a feeling they're a no no but have a search on the forum as I'm sure the question has been asked before. ;)

KarenM
09-09-2009, 06:26 AM
Apples naturally contain apple juices.
Is it ok to give rabbits a tiny bit of apple juice with water once a month or so?[/I]

Is this really that insane a question? As long as it doesn't cause dysbiosis and doesn't rot the teeth, all I can see are benefits. It would encourage my rabbit to drink more, and probably put him in more of a binky mood than usual. With a "once a month" kind of frequency, I doubt my rabbit will get diabetes.

Your op didn't explain that it would be a one a month thing - you asked how often you could give him apple juice, and I assumed it would be on a far more regular basis than that. A tiny bit of apple juice as a treat once a month wouldn't hurt, I'm sure, but why not just give him a small piece of apple instead?

I don't see how juice in his water would encourage him to drink more, since his water is only going to taste nice once a month. :lol: If you're worried that he isn't drinking enough, try some lukewarm water (mine seem to prefer their water with a splash of boiled water from the kettle) or it may be that he's getting a lot of moisture from his veggies.

Nobody was saying that buns don't have preferences but I also know that my 3 kids would happily scoff sweets all day if I allowed them to but it doesn't mean that they get them. :)