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Bill was very badly hurt today

Ronnie

Young Bun
this evening I had Bill an Ben in the garden enjoying the sun, so I decided to bring the power washer out and clean the car. the rabbit were in the garden lazing on the back step. anyhow I went inside to fetch something as I came out of the kitchen I herd an almighty BANG so I ran out and the power washer had fallen over. As I went to the other side of the car I saw Bill on the ground bouncing in the air and in obvious pain and covered in blood. She had gotten caught in the lead and pulled it over and it had hit her smack on the head. I scooped her up and rushed her to the vet. they are going to have to remove her eye as it is very badly damaged but said she is in perfect health other wise with no other obvious head or brain injury. I am really worried and upset about what has happened esp as she came from a place where she was neglected and it was me who has nearly killed her. The vet has said its very difficult giving rabbits anesthetics and there is a good chance she may not get through it but we have to try. if alls well she will be home on Thursday.

can anyone give me advice on looking after a partially sighted rabbit. is it ok to still let her have the run of the garden with Ben?
 
Aww poor Bill, I hope everything goes ok with the eye removal, I know there are a few buns on here who have had therir eyes removed and I think they lead a normal life. I've never had any experience in this though but i'm sure someone will be along soon with more advice.:)
 
Awwww what a tragic accident i'm so sorry. I'm sure with tlc she will be fine. you won't be able to give her a free run of the garden at first because she will need time to recover from the operation.
I should imagine with time and getting used to having just one eye she'll cope as normal and will adjust to having one eye :)
 
Oh no, how awful, I hope she recovers well :( Sorry I don't have any advice but yes there are some partially sighted buns on here. Thinking of you both x
 
I am so sorry to hear that, poor little bun i hope he recovers well.. Animals have this superiority on us that they are not aware of their handicap and as soon as they feel well they just go on as normal, they don't anticipate on the future as we do ; rabbits like any other animals, adapt fairly quickly to a new situation to lead a normal life and compensate with the other eye in case of your rabbit ; I knew of a few rabbits on 3 legs, running and jumping, and on a french forum, a rabbit just had his eye removed and the wound is healing properly and he is already his normal self again !! cheers and keep our fingers crossed for your little chap:love:
 
How awful :( Poor Bill. Im sure she will be ok, shes in the best hands at the vets. Theres a few bunnies on here who have had eyes removed successfully. One of the walsall rspca bunnies had a freak accident with a toy meaning an eye was removed, an RU member now owns him, i shall find her screen name for you :) xXx

Edit: Its Vicki267, im sure if you PM her she would give you some advice :)

Sending lots of vibes for Bill xXx
 
thanks I am just gutted and now Ben is trashing the hutch looking for Bill as this is the first time they have been apart since they were introduced and Bill does not leave her side at all during the day. will keep u posted.

Plus Ben saw her covered in blood and motionless so its been traumatic. it was just like How I found Ben on the site after the kids got her.
 
Hiya, I haven't got time to post now but PM me and I'll try to help :D

Stevie still has one good eye and he only gets frightened by sudden movements. Stitch had one eye but was blind in the other so I didn't allow him in the garden on his own but other than that he was a very happy bun bun with a great sense of smell and hearing :lol:

She will be absolutely fine :D
 
The vet has said its very difficult giving rabbits anesthetics and there is a good chance she may not get through it but we have to try.

I never heard of that before, is this vet a rabbit specialist? Many of my rabbits had been under anesthetics before.
 
thanks I am just gutted and now Ben is trashing the hutch looking for Bill as this is the first time they have been apart since they were introduced and Bill does not leave her side at all during the day. will keep u posted.

Plus Ben saw her covered in blood and motionless so its been traumatic. it was just like How I found Ben on the site after the kids got her.

If he's stressed is there anyway you could maybe get hold of a couple of indoor cages and put them side by side so they can see each other or maybe a dog crate with the divider in. It's not ideal as far as space goes but at least they will be able to see each other and take comfort from that whilst Bill recovers.
 
What a terrible thing to happen, and a horrible shock for you.
Anaesthetics for rabbits are alot safer than they used to be, so try not to worry. Rabbits adapt very well to losing an eye as well, but obviously will need close supervision on free run time as she will be a little more vulnerable to accidents and predators.
As they have been seperated you'll need to be careful when you reintroduce them that they recognise each other. So long as there is no squabbling and that Ben is not cleaning the wound too much (he will probably want to), it's best to keep them together. If he is bothering to would too much you may have to seperate them with a mesh barrier until it heals, but make sure they can still lay side by side.
Get some favourite treats in to encourage eating after the op, and have a cage somewhere safe and warm indoors ready for when she gets home.
I hope all goes well.
 
the vet I have gone although not specialising in rabbits is very good and I trust them that they will do their best, which is a big thing. I have a seperate hutch if needed that he can stay in. I have left trreats and a toy over this morning on my way to work and although looking a bit scared is in happy enough form.. Ben on the other hand is a shaking mess at the moment making funny whailing noises so my wife has taken today off work to look after and play with her. Bill goes in for the op about lunch time and hopefully will be home tomorrow. i'll keep u posted thanks for the comments.
 
yea I rang at 7:05am as soon as they were open and she had a good night and was sitting up but a bit scared. Called again at dinner and she was hopping and in good tune going in for her op at 4pm and was told to ring at 6pm. got a call at 530 to say that the operation had been a success, but as she started to come round from the anesthetic unfortunately she died... I have to say I never knew how much the buns meant until I got that call. My wife nicknamed him fluff ball because that is what he was and I joked it was flea ball..

Ben has made a full recovery from her injuries even the incontinence has all but cleared but at the mo she is whining and making very strange noises and when u go into the pen she cowers in the corner of the bed and physically shakes... its like back to square one. I am going to see if I can find another rescue rabbit tomorrow for company if not it looks like I may have to get one from the local pet shop...
 
Sorry you lost her it was a tragic accident , if it had happened to one of mines they would be kept to a run where its safer . I lock my dogs in the kitchen and close the baby gate so that i know they are safe when people are in to visit us ;)
 
Hi Ronnie

I am so sorry to hear about Bill, very shocking and upsetting, and I hope that you find a new friend for Ben.

I know the vet did do as much as possible, but the statement "difficult giving rabbits anesthetics" is now not true so please find yourself a rabbit savvy vet for Ben and his future bunny pal.

Hope the following helps:

Finding a good rabbit vet
As soon as you get a bunny, you need to find a good rabbit vet. The early vaccinations and health checks (bunnies in the UK need vaccinating against both VHD and myxomatosis) provide the perfect opportunity to check out a promising local practice. Don't leave it until your bunny gets sick one day to find out where to go! The RWAF has compiled a list of "rabbit friendly" vets available to members struggling to locate a suitable vet to treat their pet. This list comprises of vets that have shown an interest in rabbits and have been nominated by other RWAF members.. Information on the RWAF vet list. Please let us know if you can recommend your vet! Before resigning yourself to travelling miles to use a rabbit vet, do have a good look locally - get out the Yellow Pages speak to other local rabbit owners! There will be loads of really good rabbit vets in Britain that we just don't know about yet. In the next sections, we'll look at what you should be looking for when you choose a vet for your bunny.

Choosing a vet for your rabbit
It is very important to find the right vet to look after your pet rabbit in sickness and in health, some only offer a vaccination or neutering service and don't provide all round health care. Not all vets are experienced with rabbits, and even within a group practice you will find that some of the vets are more knowledgeable and interested in rabbits than others. The ideal situation is to find an expert rabbit vet with good facilities near to your home. Realistically, though, unless you live in an urban area with a good selection of veterinary practices within reach, you will probably have to settle for a perfectly competent vet with a good grasp of the basics of rabbit medicine, an attitude you can work with and a willingness to seek further advice should it become necessary. It is no good finding the best rabbit vet in the country if your bunny gets desperately unwell you have to set off on a three hour drive up the motorway! When choosing a vet for your bunny, here are some things to consider.

Experience
Obviously it is nice to find a really experienced rabbit vet. But quite often we find it is acceptable in many circumstances to find a vet open minded about rabbits that is willing to go away and find information if they don't know the answer off hand. Finding a balance to get the best for you bun is very important.

Facilities
Rabbits need TLC. If your bunny ever needs hospitalising, you need to know he/she is getting the best possible care. Ideally, rabbit hospital cages should be in a quiet place away from predators. It is nice if there is someone on the premises 24 hours a day, but this is not always the case in the UK. If your rabbit needs surgery (and most will, because they need to be neutered) then attention to detail is very important. Warming pads (although not too warm so as to cause heat stroke), the ability to administer fluids via different routes (eg intravenously/subcutaneously) as required, alongside experienced rabbit friendly nurses are all important. Equipment such as a drip pump, pulse oximeter or capnograph aren't essential but can be useful in monitoring patients. The actual anaesthetic used is far, far less important than the experience of the vet in using that technique. Injectable anaesthetics are much more widely used in Britain compared to America, although maintaining a good depth of anaesthesia with gaseous anaesthetics is also important. One commonly used gaseous agent is Isoflurane and this has advantages over Halothane which is now less widely used (for example, a lower risk of cardiac arrhythmias in a stressed animal) but it is not the be all and end all. Newer agents still have been developed for inducing anaesthesia but often patients are maintained on Isoflurane. The ability to intubate rabbits is very important and very much reduces the risk of anaesthetic deaths - this is whereby a tube is passed down the windpipe to maintain an airway and efficiently deliver the right levels of anaesthetic gas or oxygen directly to the lungs – many vets still don't do this. Proper attention to post operative analgesia (pain relief) is paramount.

Attitude
Rabbits are beloved companion animals - not "livestock". You need a vet whom you trust to do the best for your rabbit. You are looking for someone who will put as much effort into your rabbit as he/she would for a dog or cat. Of course you must also be willing to pay the appropriate rate - at least the same as consultation fees as dogs or cats and in some cases more. Expertise can be very expensive. We HIGHLY recommend you insure your rabbit for vets fees. Petplan offer a very good policy at reasonable cost although as with other suppliers preventative treatment is not covered as part of the policy.

Access
Taking your rabbit a long distance for routine surgery or second opinions is fine - few of us are lucky enough to have an expert in the same town. But you *must* locate a good local vet - for emergency care, routine stuff like vaccinations and teeth checks, and basically to be your rabbit's GP. If your own vet is not a totally rabbit whizz-kid, fine. So long as he/she is willing to work with you; admit limitations and assist you seeking a second opinion if any difficulties arise.

Etiquette
Your bunny is a patient of your vet. It is very, very important to respect that relationship with your vet. Never chop and change vets without discussing the situation with the first vet. Using different vets without advising anyone deprives your pet of the best care because the second vet needs to communicate with the first to find out vital history and chopping and changing purely for your convenience is not fair on your rabbit or either vets concerned. If you want a second opinion, a referral or to change vets, for whatever reason that is fine, but you must be totally open with everyone concerned. Remember, you are looking for someone to work for you and your pet.
 
This must be terrible for you - so sad your bunny didn't come round from the anesthetic :cry:

I hope Ben settles again, sending good vibes your way :wave:
 
I am so sorry you lost Bill, my thoughts are with you and Ben xxx

Hi Ronnie

I am so sorry to hear about Bill, very shocking and upsetting, and I hope that you find a new friend for Ben.

I know the vet did do as much as possible, but the statement "difficult giving rabbits anesthetics" is now not true so please find yourself a rabbit savvy vet for Ben and his future bunny pal.

Hope the following helps:

Finding a good rabbit vet
As soon as you get a bunny, you need to find a good rabbit vet. The early vaccinations and health checks (bunnies in the UK need vaccinating against both VHD and myxomatosis) provide the perfect opportunity to check out a promising local practice. Don't leave it until your bunny gets sick one day to find out where to go! The RWAF has compiled a list of "rabbit friendly" vets available to members struggling to locate a suitable vet to treat their pet. This list comprises of vets that have shown an interest in rabbits and have been nominated by other RWAF members.. Information on the RWAF vet list. Please let us know if you can recommend your vet! Before resigning yourself to travelling miles to use a rabbit vet, do have a good look locally - get out the Yellow Pages speak to other local rabbit owners! There will be loads of really good rabbit vets in Britain that we just don't know about yet. In the next sections, we'll look at what you should be looking for when you choose a vet for your bunny.

Choosing a vet for your rabbit
It is very important to find the right vet to look after your pet rabbit in sickness and in health, some only offer a vaccination or neutering service and don't provide all round health care. Not all vets are experienced with rabbits, and even within a group practice you will find that some of the vets are more knowledgeable and interested in rabbits than others. The ideal situation is to find an expert rabbit vet with good facilities near to your home. Realistically, though, unless you live in an urban area with a good selection of veterinary practices within reach, you will probably have to settle for a perfectly competent vet with a good grasp of the basics of rabbit medicine, an attitude you can work with and a willingness to seek further advice should it become necessary. It is no good finding the best rabbit vet in the country if your bunny gets desperately unwell you have to set off on a three hour drive up the motorway! When choosing a vet for your bunny, here are some things to consider.

Experience
Obviously it is nice to find a really experienced rabbit vet. But quite often we find it is acceptable in many circumstances to find a vet open minded about rabbits that is willing to go away and find information if they don't know the answer off hand. Finding a balance to get the best for you bun is very important.

Facilities
Rabbits need TLC. If your bunny ever needs hospitalising, you need to know he/she is getting the best possible care. Ideally, rabbit hospital cages should be in a quiet place away from predators. It is nice if there is someone on the premises 24 hours a day, but this is not always the case in the UK. If your rabbit needs surgery (and most will, because they need to be neutered) then attention to detail is very important. Warming pads (although not too warm so as to cause heat stroke), the ability to administer fluids via different routes (eg intravenously/subcutaneously) as required, alongside experienced rabbit friendly nurses are all important. Equipment such as a drip pump, pulse oximeter or capnograph aren't essential but can be useful in monitoring patients. The actual anaesthetic used is far, far less important than the experience of the vet in using that technique. Injectable anaesthetics are much more widely used in Britain compared to America, although maintaining a good depth of anaesthesia with gaseous anaesthetics is also important. One commonly used gaseous agent is Isoflurane and this has advantages over Halothane which is now less widely used (for example, a lower risk of cardiac arrhythmias in a stressed animal) but it is not the be all and end all. Newer agents still have been developed for inducing anaesthesia but often patients are maintained on Isoflurane. The ability to intubate rabbits is very important and very much reduces the risk of anaesthetic deaths - this is whereby a tube is passed down the windpipe to maintain an airway and efficiently deliver the right levels of anaesthetic gas or oxygen directly to the lungs – many vets still don't do this. Proper attention to post operative analgesia (pain relief) is paramount.

Attitude
Rabbits are beloved companion animals - not "livestock". You need a vet whom you trust to do the best for your rabbit. You are looking for someone who will put as much effort into your rabbit as he/she would for a dog or cat. Of course you must also be willing to pay the appropriate rate - at least the same as consultation fees as dogs or cats and in some cases more. Expertise can be very expensive. We HIGHLY recommend you insure your rabbit for vets fees. Petplan offer a very good policy at reasonable cost although as with other suppliers preventative treatment is not covered as part of the policy.

Access
Taking your rabbit a long distance for routine surgery or second opinions is fine - few of us are lucky enough to have an expert in the same town. But you *must* locate a good local vet - for emergency care, routine stuff like vaccinations and teeth checks, and basically to be your rabbit's GP. If your own vet is not a totally rabbit whizz-kid, fine. So long as he/she is willing to work with you; admit limitations and assist you seeking a second opinion if any difficulties arise.

Etiquette
Your bunny is a patient of your vet. It is very, very important to respect that relationship with your vet. Never chop and change vets without discussing the situation with the first vet. Using different vets without advising anyone deprives your pet of the best care because the second vet needs to communicate with the first to find out vital history and chopping and changing purely for your convenience is not fair on your rabbit or either vets concerned. If you want a second opinion, a referral or to change vets, for whatever reason that is fine, but you must be totally open with everyone concerned. Remember, you are looking for someone to work for you and your pet.

I do agree that having a rabbit savvy vet is a must, but I am wary of completely trusting the RWAF vet list- this was how I found my previous vet, who I feel did not treat my bridge bun properly. I feel that some people recommend their vet on the basis that they are nice and seem to know what they are doing with regards to vaccs etc. and not that the vet is actually a rabbit savvy vet per se. Although I know that you must ask lots of questions yourself to ascertain if the vet is rabbit savvy and not go by a list.

My rabbit had dental spurs which went unnoticed which caused GI stasis which then led to his death. My rabbit wasn't a great hay eater and I was paranoid about him having dental problems and very frequently visited the vets to get his teeth checked and for a general check up. The vets said all the right things, they always talked about how many rabbits they saw in their clinic. They examined his teeth and always said they were fine-that there was nothing wrong with them. It was only when I took him to a vet (which I heard about through this forum) that his spurs where found - she instantly noticed he had spurs due to malocclusion.

I am writing to get my previous vet removed from this list.

I know that the fault was mine for taking him there and I will never forgive myself, but I just don't want anyone else to make the same mistake I did.

Rant over, sorry! :oops:
 
I am so sorry you have lost Bill :( :( Ive been watching this thread hoping Bill would make a full recovery :cry:

Poor Ben, she is probably wondering what has happened to Bill, normally when a bunny dies its best to let the partner see them, so they can understand they are gone :(

Hope you manage to find Ben a rescue bunny friend when the time is right, and as advised find a good bunny vet :) Maybe if you post what area you are in one of us could advise on a good vet :) xXx
 
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