LionheadLuver
Warren Veteran
Hiya
How long after the myxi vacc can panacur be given?
How long after the myxi vacc can panacur be given?
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Panacur & vaccs
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Jack's-Jane
Wise Old Thumper
They can be given at the same time.
marie_kubiak
Alpha Buck
Ideally leave 5 days after any vaccination before a panacur course.
Jack's-Jane
Wise Old Thumper
Really, my Vet says its OK to give a vac during a course of Panacur :? Obviously not when the course is to treat an 'active EC' .
Will one effect the other :? Something to do with the immune response to the vaccine perhaps :?
Hugo's There
Wise Old Thumper
Thats interesting and has obvious implications for rescues/sanctuaries who have lots of rabbits in/coming in.
Which would you recommend is done first in this situation the vaccination or the panacur? Unless there is obvious EC signs.
holidayhutch
Warren Veteran
Our vet recommends the Myxi first and then panacur for 9 days in the 2 weeks between before the VHD vac if worming falls at the same time as vacs are due.
Jack's-Jane
Wise Old Thumper
Also, my Vet has expressed concerns re the over-use of Panacur.
Has anyone elses ?
Has anyone elses ?
LionheadLuver
Warren Veteran
My girls are overdue the panacur by about a month and we are hoping to get some at the vets when they go for their myxi boosters. I'll leave 5 days after their vacc before giving the panacur.
marie_kubiak
Alpha Buck
There is a school of thought that the fenbendazole can affect the bone marrow function and hence a 28day course has potential to reduce immune function and vaccine response. I, and a couple of other rabbit/exotic vets who I've shared my concerns with, would rather leave a lag period between vaccine and panacur treatment to prevent any compromise and risk a reduced response to the vaccine.
The effects of 9day vs 28day on the immune system have yet to be fully investigated.
There should be no conflict with symptomatic EC bunnies as vaccines should only ever be given to 'well' animals and wouldn't be used until symptoms resolved. I can see that there may be a time issue with rescues if trying to rehome as quickly as possible but new owners could be given the panacur to treat with? For new rabbits coming in I would opt for vaccine first personally, then panacur, and keeping them isolated until all treatment completed would be ideal.
Jack's-Jane
Wise Old Thumper
Brinsley Bunnies
Alpha Buck
I couldn't agree more. I think panacur is being used far too readily and my vet thinks this also. He said only a few weeks ago that 'people these days panacur things to death'. I don't speak just about rabbits here admittedly but other creatures we get in. We get in a lot of hedgehogs and I only ever treat them for worms after I have done a faecal analysis under the microscope and then make a judgement. We have just had to buy 'Telmin' a HORSE WORMER for hedgehogs as panacur is almost becoming ineffective. What will we use when we get strains of panacur resistant EC??
I do not know the solution other than only panacuring if necessary but this would be costly for blood tests and unfeasible. Perhaps this should be a whole other thread!
LionheadLuver
Warren Veteran
I'm only panacuring twice a year. One of the times is after boarding. And you also have to look at "is the 9day preventative course actually doing its job"? If it isn't then it's probably best to panacur when EC arrives so they don't become resistant. :? :?:
Jack's-Jane
Wise Old Thumper
My brain hurts too much to start thinking about EC/Panacur again tonight. I always end up tying myself up in knots and getting mega confused 
LionheadLuver
Warren Veteran
I'm thinking maybe I should Panacur more times. The rabbits are outdoors, I work in a pet shop that sells rabbits, and I go to college where I handle rabbits. Is this quite high-risk? Should I maybe panacur three-four times a year?
Hugo's There
Wise Old Thumper
I'm finding it hard to get everything right in my head too. Sometimes when buns come in the priority if they are healthy is to get them neutered so that means I need to panacur first so then I can't get them vaccinated :?
At the moment I only panacur bunnies that have possible EC symptoms and repeat it twice yearly. Saying that most of my bunnies seem to have some kind of Ec symptom :roll:
At the moment I only panacur bunnies that have possible EC symptoms and repeat it twice yearly. Saying that most of my bunnies seem to have some kind of Ec symptom :roll:
