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piningforarabbit
08-02-2009, 10:02 PM
just wondering who you lot consider our most knowledgeable rabbit experts ?

obviously jane as no.1 (sorry if I've offended anyone by this)

jrn1310 as another one

who else ?

have any of the experts compiled a central rabbit behaviour FAQ to answer common questions like, why does my rabbit...

a) binky
b) lick me
c) turn their back to me
d) digg :?
e) flop
f) fight
etc etc

donnamt
08-02-2009, 10:05 PM
Jane as youve said, almost vetlike with the knowledge and sooz again vetlike knowledge... if i have an emergency i would prey for sooz and Jane being online

The Duchess
08-02-2009, 10:07 PM
just wondering who you lot consider our most knowledgeable rabbit experts ?

obviously jane as no.1 (sorry if I've offended anyone by this)

jrn1310 as another one

who else ?

have any of the experts compiled a central rabbit behaviour FAQ to answer common questions like, why does my rabbit...

a) binky
b) lick me
c) turn their back to me
d) digg :?
e) flop
f) fight
etc etc

I am currently doing a survey with a vet student about to finish her last year and she has been doing a piece on behaviour. We have a list of about 58 different recognised behaviours which we hope to 'publish' to show what each one means. It's very interesting.

We are doing the final part this week where we will sit for 6 hours over 4 days monitoring a number of rabbits and marking down their specific behaviour every 15 seconds per rabbit. We did the first part before Christmas - very interesting indeed.

I'd like to be able to give a copy to each person adopting a rabbit so that they can understand (if they have no experience) what their rabbits are doing.

piningforarabbit
08-02-2009, 10:10 PM
I am currently doing a survey with a vet student about to finish her last year and she has been doing a piece on behaviour. We have a list of about 58 different recognised behaviours which we hope to 'publish' to show what each one means. It's very interesting.

I look forward to this, are you going to publish online here too ?

The Duchess
08-02-2009, 10:12 PM
I look forward to this, are you going to publish online here too ?

It won't really be up to me as I have only done the donkey work, Kate the student will have to decide how she progresses it.

I am lucky because it looks like she might decide to work locally and be a very bunny savvy vet.

I will be producing something a bit simpler than the work Kate is producing for her theasus, for my own personal use, but it should still contain the same behaviours.

I'll keep you posted!

Phoebesmummy9
08-02-2009, 10:12 PM
Id probably go to Jane or Sooz, both have helped me out medical wise with my bunnys and I feel confident that the info there giving me is correct! :)

Santa
08-02-2009, 10:14 PM
have any of the experts compiled a central rabbit behaviour FAQ to answer common questions like, why does my rabbit...


Fortuitously, Dr Anne McBride, who has a PhD in animal behaviour (specifically aspects of social and parental behaviour in the european rabbit) has written a book exactly entitled "why does my rabbit..." It pretty much answers all those questions with reference to their wild origins. It's a good numbe rof years old now but it's still blooming interesting. I'm very much looking forward to her lecture at the RWA conference :)

piningforarabbit
08-02-2009, 10:18 PM
Fortuitously, Dr Anne McBride, who has a PhD in animal behaviour (specifically aspects of social and parental behaviour in the european rabbit) has written a book exactly entitled "why does my rabbit..." It pretty much answers all those questions with reference to their wild origins. It's a good numbe rof years old now but it's still blooming interesting. I'm very much looking forward to her lecture at the RWA conference :)

amazon.co.uk 111.63 ????? :shock:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/0285635506/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new

Santa
08-02-2009, 10:21 PM
:lol::lol: and 3 used for 16.45. Either a typo or out of print so they've put a silly price on it, methinks ;)

This is a great site too, with photos and everything :D
http://language.rabbitspeak.com/rabbittalk.html

Edit: you can buy it from the Hay Experts for 9.99 :D
https://www.thehayexperts.co.uk/Books+%252526+Reference.32/Why+Does+My+Rabbit...%3F.366.html

halfpenny
08-02-2009, 10:21 PM
As well as those mentioned, I must say, Hugos's there and Jaypot. They see so many long term disabilities and terminal cases, and try new options to keep them going. I'm sure they should both write books.:)

piningforarabbit
08-02-2009, 10:24 PM
:lol::lol: and 3 used for 16.45. Either a typo or out of print so they've put a silly price on it, methinks ;)

This is a great site too, with photos and everything :D
http://language.rabbitspeak.com/rabbittalk.html

Edit: you can buy it from the Hay Experts for 9.99 :D
https://www.thehayexperts.co.uk/Books+%252526+Reference.32/Why+Does+My+Rabbit...%3F.366.html

9.99 from whsmiths too

http://www.whsmith.co.uk/CatalogAndSearch/ProductDetails-Why+Does+My+Rabbit...+-9780285635500.html

;)

abbymarysmokey
09-02-2009, 11:00 AM
I think different members have different fields of knowledge. For instance Jane and Alison (Santa) are good on health issues, Janice is good on bonding and behaviour, some of the breeder members would know more about breeding issues, etc, etc.

As for the forum 'rabbit whisperer'...erm I dunno! I suppose somebody who is good at bringing aggressive or timid rabbits round :lol:

louise and Gus
09-02-2009, 12:20 PM
I always go to Alison first (Santa) mainly because I have her work email and mobile number so she can't escape me :lol: :lol: (and she knows a thing or two ;))

But I think it is worth saying that any serious problem should be seen by a vet rather than waiting for someone to read your post, I do see posts and think, why are you on the internet, you should be on the way to the vets!

Sooz
09-02-2009, 12:22 PM
Fortuitously, Dr Anne McBride, who has a PhD in animal behaviour (specifically aspects of social and parental behaviour in the european rabbit) has written a book exactly entitled "why does my rabbit..." It pretty much answers all those questions with reference to their wild origins. It's a good numbe rof years old now but it's still blooming interesting. I'm very much looking forward to her lecture at the RWA conference :)

It's an excellent book...I brought mine from Amazon last year and I am sure I paid less than 10 for it, it's full of case studies and well worth a read. You find your self having 'Eureka' moments as you read :lol:.

I've learnt huge amounts from Jane, Santa & Abbysmarysmokey on here and also Lynda from CARROT who has given me quite a lot of advice on another forum.

Hugo's There
09-02-2009, 12:25 PM
But I think it is worth saying that any serious problem should be seen by a vet rather than waiting for someone to read your post, I do see posts and think, why are you on the internet, you should be on the way to the vets!

I was thinking the same thing, a vet should be the first port of call. However I do think it is great to be able to ask for help on here if you have a difficult problem rather than an urgent one. There is usually someone who has had a similar experience, and that doesn't necessarily have to be any of the more experienced rabbit owners on here. It could be someone who has only had one or two rabbits but just happens to have been through the same thing. It is always great to be able to swap experiences and there is always something new to learn :)

Jack's-Jane
09-02-2009, 12:50 PM
Rodneyvet and Marie Kubiak :D

HS
09-02-2009, 12:56 PM
If I have an appointment at the vet for an unusual problem (like Squidgy's limp) I like to ask on here first to make sure I have an idea of what the vet should be suggesting. The vet I use now is fantastic though.
There are a lot of knowledgeable people on here, and also many who have been through different experiences with their bunnies. It's good to share!

keepingmesane
09-02-2009, 01:00 PM
But I think it is worth saying that any serious problem should be seen by a vet rather than waiting for someone to read your post, I do see posts and think, why are you on the internet, you should be on the way to the vets!

i agree even though i am guilty of doing this yesterday :oops::oops::oops:
i think i wasnt thinking clearly as i was so worried about Dora, i knew i should get her to the vets and was doing that alongside my post (phoned my vets first who refused to see her and wanted me to drive across manchester which i couldnt do)... but i suddenly realised that i didnt know if i was supposed to seperate them or keep them together and i panicked :oops::oops:

I always know i can get good advice on here (and usually very quickly) and appreciate all members who have helped me throughout my short time here

abbymarysmokey
09-02-2009, 01:14 PM
I've been wondering whether there is any such thing as a Rabbit Whisperer. Is it possible to have a deeper level of communication with an animal like a rabbit which has only ever been bred for meat, fur, etc? Or is that level of communication between animal and man only possible with animals like horses and dogs who have been bred over thousands of years to have a connection with humans?

I DO think it's possible to learn to read rabbit body language, and to learn how to correctly handle a rabbit...but is that the same as being a Rabbit Whisperer? :?

Jack's-Jane
09-02-2009, 01:16 PM
I've been wondering whether there is any such thing as a Rabbit Whisperer. Is it possible to have a deeper level of communication with an animal like a rabbit


I certainly think you can :)

Sooz
09-02-2009, 01:19 PM
I've been wondering whether there is any such thing as a Rabbit Whisperer. Is it possible to have a deeper level of communication with an animal like a rabbit which has only ever been bred for meat, fur, etc? Or is that level of communication between animal and man only possible with animals like horses and dogs who have been bred over thousands of years to have a connection with humans?

I DO think it's possible to learn to read rabbit body language, and to learn how to correctly handle a rabbit...but is that the same as being a Rabbit Whisperer? :?

I think if you can lead an animal that hasn't traditionally been bred to trust people into feeling totally safe & content around you, you must have done a bang up job... as it must be harder than with a dog or horse who have thousands of generations of domestication behind them.

Whether that makes you a 'rabbit whisperer' or not though I don't know. :lol::lol:

piningforarabbit
09-02-2009, 06:02 PM
I certainly think you can :)

to believe otherwise would be unfair to our furry friends, the implication being that they have no ability to communicate amongst themselves, and hence we are not able to mimic their communications

years ago before I was enlightened, I thought food animals were cute, but stupid, but then I heard a story about two sheep, one was completely blind, the other befriended her and led her around the field. sheep may not be as clever and complex as "us higher mammals", but to me they obviously have feelings, and feelings would be pointless if they couldn't communicate those feelings to each other, if they can communicate with each other, then surely with our higher intelligence we should be able to communicate with them ? I think to be able understand them properly we have to drop our more complex behavioural assumptions and think more like a rabbit (see my addition to the thread about what we want from life :lol:)

if we are not able to communicate to rabbits
a) have I been wasting my breath all these years when I talk to them ?
b) why does cody hop onto the hay bale when I say "up", and he gets down when I say "down", and bonnie and fifi run backto their greenhouse (eventually) when I say "home" ?

abbymarysmokey
09-02-2009, 06:11 PM
b) why does cody hop onto the hay bale when I say "up", and he gets down when I say "down", and bonnie and fifi run backto their greenhouse (eventually) when I say "home" ?

Sounds like your rabbits have become Human Whisperer's' rather than the other way around...perhaps it is rabbits who have the higher intellect after all?!? ;) :lol:

Sooz
09-02-2009, 06:25 PM
Sounds like your rabbits have become Human Whisperer's' rather than the other way around...perhaps it is rabbits who have the higher intellect after all?!? ;) :lol:

I'm convinced my rabbits are cleverer than me....they seem to have the power of foresight, despite only having a jab every three days they know when I'm coming to just to feed them and when there is a sharp suprise accompanying breakfast....:? :lol:

piningforarabbit
09-02-2009, 07:46 PM
Sounds like your rabbits have become Human Whisperer's' rather than the other way around...perhaps it is rabbits who have the higher intellect after all?!? ;) :lol:

I've known that for many years, ever since my final year at university, cooped up during sunny spring time, in a stuffy room in the bowels of the campus university, looking out at the lush grass, and the bunnies running around pro-creating. Rabbits don't take finals, go figure :lol:

NickieM
09-02-2009, 08:12 PM
If you got a problem, it is always good to get a reply from either Jane, Sooz, Lynda or Snowy