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SisterMoonbeam
30-01-2009, 10:36 PM
I'm a little worried about fidget. I know you are supposed to be able to feel a rabbit's spine if they are the correct weight but hers is very protruding. I can feel every ridge quite sharply and her shoulders and hips too.

She eats like a pig so she isn't underfed. She's going for a health check on sunday but just wanted some opinions on this first... Do you think its normal to feel her bones to that degree?

Sky-O
30-01-2009, 10:38 PM
Nope, not normal at all. She doesn't sound 100%. She definitely needs a full check. Maybe also some bloods too, if her teeth are ok. We have been sturggling with this with one of our girls. Her problem seems to be a combo of age, the cold, and her liver.

Good luck on Sunday. Keep feeding your bun agood amount, increase the amount too, I would think.

Sorry, that's a bit waffly. :|

LionheadLuver
30-01-2009, 10:41 PM
If they are eating loads and not gaining or losing weight, it's a health problem and needs to be checked out.

SisterMoonbeam
30-01-2009, 10:43 PM
Oh no :(

She is only young and has always been this way, it's not something that has developed. Her teeth look fine (no expert though) and her behaviour is normal.

I'm going to a visitor farm to get her checked on sunday, they are doing them for free for Rabbit Week which is good. I hope they find what the problem may be.

LionheadLuver
30-01-2009, 10:46 PM
It's usually something to do with her metabolism. It's working too fast for her body to retain energy. Hope they find out what's wrong.

animal ry
30-01-2009, 10:49 PM
sending hugs!!!!! and vibes!!!!! its nothing bad!!!!:wave::D:)

SisterMoonbeam
30-01-2009, 10:59 PM
If they are eating loads and not gaining or losing weight, it's a health problem and needs to be checked out.

She is gaining weight as she is still growing.

Very concerned now! I might go to get her checked tomorrow instead of sunday then! :(:(:(

Santa
30-01-2009, 11:05 PM
Very concerned now! I might go to get her checked tomorrow instead of sunday then! :(:(:(

I would - it doesn't sound at all normal. It might be something easily solved (e.g. worms or a hidden infection) but in any case it's better to get her checked earlier rather than later so that it can be medicated if necessary. If she has no bodyweight she will also struggle to stay warm so the sooner the better. Good luck, hope she's ok xx

*Spider*
30-01-2009, 11:05 PM
Your vet will be able to tell for you and if they are concerned they can do all the required tests :wave:
Good luck, tons of vibes for little Fidget
Xx

SisterMoonbeam
30-01-2009, 11:20 PM
I just weighed her... it was tricky lol so may not be exact but she is about 1.3kg and she's a nethie cross, a little bigger than a nethie but not much

areia
30-01-2009, 11:28 PM
how old is she ?
can you check her bottom, and really check her poos and see if you can see any tiny white worms they move really slow, well docs ones did, as shes growing it may be shes just growing faster than shes eating, for a neithie cross i dont think her weights that bad, my dutch was 1,7 kg
still take to vet, though more for peace of mind,:)

SisterMoonbeam
30-01-2009, 11:37 PM
I just checked her poos when someone mentioned worms but they look fine....

here are some pics I just took to give an indication of her body condition - sorry they're not very good though..

EDIT: Sorry forgot to put, she's about 5 months old

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii18/Sistermoonbeamcrash/DSC00012.jpg

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii18/Sistermoonbeamcrash/DSC00014.jpg

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii18/Sistermoonbeamcrash/DSC00016.jpg

areia
31-01-2009, 12:13 AM
her tummy does look a bit indented in the first piccie, does she share her food at all or still alone?
beth was small and underweight when she came to me now shes a nice if slightly :oops: plump bun
biggles was the runt of his litter and small when he came to me and is now 5 and half and is still acting like a kit :lol:
if shes running around pooing fine eating fine and indoors so you can monitor she may just need a lil feeding up as someone said could be her metabolism as shes growing
she looks bright eyed and gorgous:love:
let us know what the vet says :D

SisterMoonbeam
31-01-2009, 12:53 PM
No she eats alone. She is housed indoors but goes in the outdoor run during the day.

Grrrr.... can't get her in today so will have to wait til tomoz :(

SisterMoonbeam
31-01-2009, 06:25 PM
She's just produced some very strange sloppy poos and she usually goes mad for her pellets and she just ate a couple and is ignoring them! This is so weird.

I dont know whether to go to this health check thing tomoz or take her to my vet on monday where they can give her any medication that she may need!!!

Arghh.. don't know what to do, why do these things always happen at the weekend?

VikkiVet
31-01-2009, 06:28 PM
She's just produced some very strange sloppy poos and she usually goes mad for her pellets and she just ate a couple and is ignoring them! This is so weird.

I dont know whether to go to this health check thing tomoz or take her to my vet on monday where they can give her any medication that she may need!!!

Arghh.. don't know what to do, why do these things always happen at the weekend?

That doesnt sound so good hun. Can you ring your vet for advice? Gut things are always tricky in buns and best dealt with ASAP. how is she in herself? i'd keep her in and warm, water and hay and all that.

SisterMoonbeam
31-01-2009, 06:30 PM
That doesnt sound so good hun. Can you ring your vet for advice? Gut things are always tricky in buns and best dealt with ASAP. how is she in herself? i'd keep her in and warm, water and hay and all that.

Her behaviour, other than ignoring her pellets, is fine, she's running around my bed throwing things on the floor (cheeky!) as normal. She's going back and forth to her pellets and eating one or two at a time but they're usually gone within about 5 minutes

Sky-O
31-01-2009, 06:31 PM
I'm so sorry. Rabbit's are greta at picking the worst times.

I would also look at worming her, but also the possibility of a tapeworm. Obviously there are lots of other options too, like coccidiosis, so ther are a lot of things to consider and look at.

If she is not eating much you probbaly need to get her seen as quick as possible. That may mean going tomorrow, but also Monday, but that might be your best shot if she is slacking off on the pellets.

SisterMoonbeam
31-01-2009, 06:36 PM
I will go tomorrow and then on monday aswell. They may be able to give me some kind of indication as to what may be wrong with her even if they can't give me the medication i think it would be worth going and then to my vets on monday.

God i hope its not serious im so worried now :cry:

areia
31-01-2009, 07:30 PM
i would start on a worming course you can buy panacur online but i think you should start sooner and try and get it in p@h

if shes doing sloppy poos give her plenty of fresh hay the fact shes moving around is a good sign i would ring vets for advise to be honest see what they say on whether taking her in

SisterMoonbeam
01-02-2009, 12:04 PM
Thanks for all your advice guys. Just off to the farm now to get her checked. Wish us luck. Will let you know what they say!

SisterMoonbeam
01-02-2009, 02:04 PM
Well i saw a vet nurse and she said that she is 500g underweight and to feed her ad lib for two weeks and get a course of panacur to worm her and if she hasn't improved in 2 weeks take her to the vet.

She said that because she is quite an active bun its a possibility that she has quite a high metabolism and burning off all the energy she is getting from the food too quickly.

Do you know where the best place to get panacur is? Except P@H cause the nearest one to me is about 12 miles away :(

Can you buy it from the vets?

Bunny Buddy
01-02-2009, 02:07 PM
Hi, Yes you should be able to get it from your vets.

You can also get it on line:

http://www.vetuk.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=17_43&products_id=1105

SisterMoonbeam
01-02-2009, 02:10 PM
Awesome thanks!

My mind is slightly more at ease now though i don't think i will be able to relax until she has a bit more meat on her bones!

SisterMoonbeam
17-03-2009, 10:43 PM
Thought i would reopen this thread as i am still slightly worried about Fidget. Although being fed ad lib for a while and having been given a 28 day course of panacur she is still skinny. I don't know what to do. Since getting frankie i've really noticed the difference. She has no problem wolfing down her food and i'm just at a loss. She is on Wagg optimum at the moment but used to be on P@H junior pellets, i was thinking of changing her back to them for a while to increase her energy and protein intake. Will this help?

p_prod_uk
17-03-2009, 10:56 PM
I would take her straight to the vet if you are still concerned. Is she weeing more than normal? Could be Kidney-related...?

You could try her on a different food if she's had it before and likes it, failing that just feed her as much as you can to keep the weight up while you wait to see a vet.

I've had this recently with one of my buns. Turns out she had chronic teeth and now they've been sorted, i'm just waiting for EC bloods back. Her kidney function was normal (thank God!) and so we don't know if it's EC or if it was just the teeth causing the problem.

I would def get her to a vet tomorrow if possible and they can run the relevant tests.

My Boo seemed 100% normal until he died of probable kidney failure, and it wasn't until it was too late that I noticed just how much weight he had lost.

Sending nose rubs to bun x

ETA: Have you checked her weight again yourself to see if she has put on any weight?
If you don't have animal scales but you have human ones, weigh yourself holding her, then deduct your own weight :)

SisterMoonbeam
17-03-2009, 10:59 PM
Well i was going to make an appointment for frankie's myxi tomorrow so i'd better make one for fidget too in that case. She seems to be weeing as much as she usually does. Do have a problem with her drinking though - she drinks VERY little!

SisterMoonbeam
17-03-2009, 10:59 PM
ETA: Have you checked her weight again yourself to see if she has put on any weight?
If you don't have animal scales but you have human ones, weigh yourself holding her, then deduct your own weight :)

LOL i am just going to do that now. She was 1.09Kg last time she saw the vet nurse

p_prod_uk
17-03-2009, 11:02 PM
Fingers crossed for the weigh-in, let us know how it goes...
At least she's not over-drinking as this could indicate a possible problem. That's what my Boo did, but again I didn't realise until it was too late for him :cry:

Keep us posted :)

SisterMoonbeam
17-03-2009, 11:11 PM
She seems to be about 1.5 but my bathroom scales are terrible so i'm not sure how accurate that is

p_prod_uk
17-03-2009, 11:15 PM
She seems to be about 1.5 but my bathroom scales are terrible so i'm not sure how accurate that is

hmmm, that's the prob i guess. i'd get her into vets as soon as you can, but at least you have a starting point for using your own scales now, so maybe try and weigh her once a week/fortnight for your own piece of mind?

Fingers crossed for a healthy check-up for her. :)

Happy Hopping
18-03-2009, 10:20 AM
since your bun is only 6 mth. old, it would be very rare for cancer to occur.

You can temporary try corn on cob. It's meant to be fattening. Many years ago, when I don't know much about bun, I used to give 1/2 length of corn to my bun in the summer (we only get them in the summer).

Since your bun is under weight, give it a try for a few mth.

SisterMoonbeam
18-03-2009, 12:25 PM
I don't think it's fat that's the problem though (well it could be i'm no expert) She seems to have very little muscle development over her back and legs :(

SisterMoonbeam
18-03-2009, 08:58 PM
Well they both went to the vets and a health check was done (included with the jabs yay) and they both had myxi jabs done!

Seems i was overreacting a tad and Fidget's weight is fine. Sh has put on over half a kilo since her panacur treatment and has good muscle development on her back and legs (shows how much i know :lol:) and her teeth are fine but recommended bringing her back at a year old as dental probs often develop after their first year

She also had a look at Frankie's eye and reconfirmed what his old vet said - that he has a missing tear duct and just to bathe everyday to keep lubricated and eye gel may help(already bought some so that was lucky). She also said that he may be prone to infections in that eye so keep a check on it and if any mucous appears take him in.

She wasn't the same vet i have seen before and was really nice and seemed to know her stuff so i will be back to see her again - shame i'm moving back to manchester in June so have to do my hunt for a rabbit savvy vet again :(

But all in all a successful trip !! :D