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I agree with you Donna, but I suppose I'm just a tad biased. The pic's a bit burry but she'd put both front feet on the door and put her head forward for a nose rub. Rog and I were so excited last night when we realised that she can now clean her hocks easily, and we're positive that there'll come a time when she'll be able to wash her face. At the moment her dewlap still prevents her from getting her paws to her face, but it is shrinking so we live in hope!!