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Myx-equimune iv-update

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Warren Scout
Hi!

I need some urgent information on Equimune iv. It is a medicine for horses, used to boost their immunesystem. It has shown very good results om rabbits with myx and I am now urgently looking for the European version of this drug.

It is impossible to obtain,unless in huge amounts and it is really to expensive (5000eur) in bulk.

So we have 2 possibilities:
-find 1 1.5ml bottle that can be delivered in Belgium asap
-find the european equivalent that hopefully doesn't contain any substances that are harmfull for other rabbits

I have contacted vets in CH, NL,B and France, not available.

The drugs are for a rabbit wich was vaccinated 10 days before he showed signs of myxi. He had been ill 2 weeks previously, but wild rabbits in the neighbourhood were dying of myxi ,so the risk of vaccination was taken anyway.
It is unsure wether this is a reaction to the vaccin or the real thing. But he stille has a change says the vet...

Who can help???
 
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I am pm ing you my vet(Jason Burgess)s tel no- he has patients abroad as well as the UK . He may be able to help?. Try phoning Frances-Harcourt Brown(York) too -she is very rabbit savvy too and might know where to get hold of the stuff?. You will probably find that they will only supply to a vet though, not to you -if they have any of the stuff.
Best of luck-Sue:wave:
 
Thanks!

I will try to call them, allthough I doubt they will be able to get the drug itself... I just searched on the forum and apparently nobody here has ever used it... That would only be possible if the drug is not available no?

By the way , It's for a little miracle-rabbit in Belgium, me I live in Geneva
 
I had a rabbit that Jason treated for a rare condition related to horses (not myxi) many years ago- not Equimune- he also treated my bun for nodular myxi last year and has is pretty gen'd up on rabbit meds. I do hope he can help.-Sue:wave:
 
This is copied from the AllExperts Site

I am a vet in Australia. I am writing to tell you of an interesting success
I have had in treating my bunnies that caught myxi.

I had three bunnies and a 12month old hare that I reared. One bunny I
euthanased after 13days with Myxi symptoms, the hare died. The second bunny
that had symptoms, Littlebunny, I was nursing and dosing 3-4 times daily
with a witches brew of vits,antioxidants, immune stimulants etc and giving
subcut fluids and antibiotics. He lost significant weight and was having to
mouth breathe (making it too risky to orally medicate anymore) by three
weeks into the disease. He was a mass of lesions distorting eyes and nares
and his body and genitals were covered in lesions. At this time my third
bunny,Bigbunny, had symptoms for 4 days - swollen reddened eyes with a
number of lesions on lid margins and ears.

At this point I thought of trying the Vetrepharm product, Equimune IV, a
bacterial cell wall fraction immunostimulant registered in Australia for
treatment of Equine Respiratory Tract Infections of viral origin but used
off label here for things like FIV, demodex, parvo, prostate cancer, bladder
tumours, and other debilitating conditions in small animals.

I gave my bunnies 0.25ml IV into lateral ear vein once weekly. Littlebunny
was pretty debilitated at the start of this treatment but while not showing
any improvement, he remained in good spirits, continued to eat and did not
lose any more weight. I did continue his Baytril s/c in courses of 10days
broken by 5-7days. He required no other time consuming nursing apart from
cleaning and medicating eyes bid. Today he is 10-11weeks with the disease
and in the last 10 days the lesions have been shrinking and falling off
eyelids. He has gained a little weight and despite still being a bit
snuffly, I think is on the mend. I believe with out Equimune I would have
had to euthanase him before end of 4th week.

Bigbunny is the big excitement- there was no progression of symptoms from
the commencement of treatment with Equimune. His eyelesions may have
reddened a little some days but for the most settled down and certainly
there was no spread. He never skipped a beat and was a happy unaffected fat
bunny throughout - maybe a few sniffly days but pretty much a walk in the
park. By 4-5th week his eye lesions were resolving and he was a normal
bunny.

Neither of my bunnies have been vaccinated for myxi - the vax not avail in
Australia. It is no scientific trial by any means but it would appear that
caught early with Equimune, Bigbunny didnt develop full blown symptoms.
And I know Littlebunny would not be alive without those weekly injections.
The Vetrepharm rep tells me injections at 10 day intervals would have been
sufficient and probably only 4 injections necessary. I guess I will still
continue the injections for Littlebunny until all lesions and respiratory
signs are gone.

Vetrepharm is a Canadian company - you can find it on the web and get info
on their products: Regressin-V, Immunoboost, Equimune IV. We only have the
Equimune in Australia I think. The rep tells me they have cured Bladder
tumours in dogs infusing it by urinary catheter, cured prostate cancer in
dogs, cured a doberman with a malignant melanoma in the chest, cured a cat
with FIV. I have had good results in a pup with parvo. I think the website
:www.bioniche.com will give distributor info in UK. I think it is worth
trying and considering there was no intensive nursing necessary - just good
housing and food, it is a cheap treatment, especially if my bunnies are now
with good immunity to meet future challenge as good or better than being
vaxd. In my funny way of thinking- if this success (Bigbunny's experience)
is repeatable it might be better to take bunnies to a myxi party and treat
with equimune than annual vaxs - like my mother did with us as kids to get
things like chickenpox and measles. I only have 2 bunnies and pet bunnies
are prohibited in my State so I cant call for other bunnies with myxi to do
a proper trial. And i would never deliberately infect bunnies with myxi for
experiment anyway. I might be able to get a vet in another state to call
for bunnies with myxi to test this treatment.

Just thought you might be interested in this treatment.

regards, Barb Matheson.
 
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Thanks Jane,

It is exactly that information that I have... I even have the emailadres from that vet meanwhile so I can put the vet in Belgium in contact with her.

Problem is just to get our hands on that product...
 
Apparently it is impossible to get this product in Europe...

The difficulty with finding a similar product is that the active ingredient doesn't consist of chemical elements but some active element that isn't further discribed.

In case anyone has the right knowledge or knows an alternative, I will be happy to hear about it, even if it is a year from now...

By the way... It has been 16 days since the first myxi signes and the rabbit in question is active again and hopping around. Gets aerosol 4 times a day and is doing good. No more extra nodulars have apeared... would he be out of the "danger-zone" now?
 
He is eating a bit less then usual, but ok , pooing is normal.

Last monday night he deteriorated and everybody advised to put him to sleep... the girl did not give up however and he is doing better...

Hypoliet is a real miracle rabbit... he got ill at 8 weeks, visited 2 different vets ,both diagnosed him wrong... A month later and after a lot of ups and downs...finnaly a good vet. He had coccidiosis AND worms! And he survived for a month with that!! Quite extraordinary and no doubt because of the good care his young bunny-mum gave him... She even started studying veterinairy science after all what she experienced and promised me to become the best bunny-vet for the Belelux ;)

I feel a special bond with this rabbit and his owner, because he has proven to be such a strong one and for her, it was her first rabbit, nevertheless she took the right actions and he is alive because of her... It would be a dream if all new rabbit owners were like her... (you all know the stories we have to read on forums every day...)I keep my fingers crossed that he'll survive this myxi-story...
 
Little update:

He is still doing great!
He is off the antibiotics for the moment and has now 3 times a day a steambad.

3 weeks have gone by now...can we declare him out off the danger-zone now???
 
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