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Stalvros
19-07-2008, 04:40 AM
Yep, this time a BIGGER cage as well!
But.... should i separate them though into different cages?
I know they'll have more space that way but.....
........ they seem so attached :(.

Check it out~
(Will post more pic once i have set everything)
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/511/img0152ad5.jpg

And yes.....
Marble STILL shreak whenever she doesn't see Carpet around!
I don't know why! I was told that as they grow older perhaps Marble wont shreak but this is definitely not the case :(.

PS: Just look at how curious carpet is with his
fluffy little face. They've grown though~

Bun Bun
19-07-2008, 06:46 AM
Why are you thinking about seperating them?
Buns prefer company so if you can keep them together then I would do especially if they are already so attached, but without knowing why you want/need to split them it's hard to say.

Stalvros
19-07-2008, 07:10 AM
Why are you thinking about seperating them?
Buns prefer company so if you can keep them together then I would do especially if they are already so attached, but without knowing why you want/need to split them it's hard to say.

oh, i mean for the space wise~
like 1 rabbit in 1 cage
that way they'll be able to have more space ^_^.

So its either
1st - less space but together
2nd - more space but separated

but judging from the situation, id have to stick with 2nd for now~

Becca
19-07-2008, 08:01 AM
Can you not make the two cages into one so they can still be together and have more space?:D

Stalvros
19-07-2008, 10:35 AM
Can you not make the two cages into one so they can still be together and have more space?:D

Hmmmm~
dont think that's possible at the moment.
Not enough space :(.

I have a table there in my balcony.
So what happened is, i plan to put the smaller cage at the bottom and bigger cage on top (or the other way around)

So the arrangement is more like STACK instead of ASIDE.
Unless rabbits are like hamsters, i would've connected the 2 cages using tubes XD

Lspacehopper
19-07-2008, 10:35 AM
Just looking at the pic of their small cage, are they standing directly onto wire? Rabbits shouldn't be kept on wire as it can cause damage to their hocks/feet.

Definitely move them into the bigger one together and make sure they have a solid plastic base or someting, as you get in dog crates :)

*lily*
19-07-2008, 11:54 AM
How big is the new cage?

Stalvros
19-07-2008, 12:24 PM
Just looking at the pic of their small cage, are they standing directly onto wire? Rabbits shouldn't be kept on wire as it can cause damage to their hocks/feet.

Definitely move them into the bigger one together and make sure they have a solid plastic base or someting, as you get in dog crates :)

oh i had a cloth for them to rest
had it removed during picture taken because i need to dry it out
(pee all over the place -_-)

charlie82
19-07-2008, 12:44 PM
If they are already together in a little cage, why can't you just put them both together in the bigger cage?

I think I would prefer to have less room and be with my friend as opposed to being in a cage on my own... and the cage you are currently using isn't really large enough for one grown bunny so i would definitely switch to the other one :)

The Duchess
19-07-2008, 01:15 PM
This is a no brainer - you need to keep them together as they are a bonded pair. They will be very unhappy if you split them up. Whilst it's not great that they don't have masses of space, provided you are giving them the care they need and a chance to run around your apartment when you are in, they will be better off than being split up and just having a tiny bit more room.

Lauralou
19-07-2008, 01:36 PM
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Carpet and Marble!!

How old are they now?

They will love the new roomier home, is it a dog crate?

Stalvros
19-07-2008, 01:38 PM
Yeah that's what i thought
so i guess i'll stick with option 2 for now.

I dont know.
I mean, you know how some people say
'it DOESNT MATTER if your female rabbit cries! separate it for a better cause'
or something like that?

As for the smaller cage,
i'll probably use it for their babies if they had any ^_^.

PS: As for space wise, i took them down to the garden everyday for afternoon walk after their lunch. I've seen some rabbits get SUPER FAT that you can sign them up for SUMO contest -_-, dont want my rabbits to end up like that~

Lauralou
19-07-2008, 01:41 PM
?

As for the smaller cage,
i'll probably use it for their babies if they had any ^_^.

PS: As for space wise, i took them down to the garden everyday for afternoon walk after their lunch. I've seen some rabbits get SUPER FAT that you can sign them up for SUMO contest -_-, dont want my rabbits to end up like that~

do be careful, bunnies breed at a rate of knots, you really would be over run in no time, females can literally be pregnant again straight after giving birth. would you consider neutering and spaying them? do you have a good vet service in Singapore? i have no idea!

Stalvros
19-07-2008, 01:45 PM
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Carpet and Marble!!

How old are they now?

They will love the new roomier home, is it a dog crate?

hello hello Lauralou ^_^
how are you again?
how's Carlton?

Oh, carpet and marble is 3 months old now.
Yep, its a dog crate ^_^. I figured all the rabbit cage they're selling me are Wayyyyyy too small. So i just got them a dog crate instead with those pull-able trays for easy cleaning.

I'll still use the same ol' rugged towel for footing support.
Still drying it at the moment -> smells of pee!!! ahhh!!!!
(It's actually a 1 month old new towel -_-)
(Turned to RUG after both carpet and marble 'play' with it)

Stalvros
19-07-2008, 01:46 PM
do be careful, bunnies breed at a rate of knots, you really would be over run in no time, females can literally be pregnant again straight after giving birth. would you consider neutering and spaying them? do you have a good vet service in Singapore? i have no idea!

Yeah that's what i read up as well.
I'll see if i can get them neutered like after the 1st batch or something.
I just want them to have a chance to become parent.

There's this shop called Pet Lovers Center
http://www.petloverscentre.com/
They do all sorts of things related to pets and their branch is all over malaysia and singapore as well ^_^. I went to them to buy this 3kg of HAY!

Amy & Amber
19-07-2008, 01:50 PM
Please dont breed them, do you know how many rabbits die in rescues around the world due to over population? :cry:

Yes the babies are very cute, but can you afford to get them all neutred/spayed before they leave you as well as the vaccinating?

Lauralou
19-07-2008, 01:52 PM
hello hello Lauralou ^_^
how are you again?
how's Carlton?

Oh, carpet and marble is 3 months old now.
Yep, its a dog crate ^_^. I figured all the rabbit cage they're selling me are Wayyyyyy too small. So i just got them a dog crate instead with those pull-able trays for easy cleaning.

I'll still use the same ol' rugged towel for footing support.
Still drying it at the moment -> smells of pee!!! ahhh!!!!
(It's actually a 1 month old new towel -_-)
(Turned to RUG after both carpet and marble 'play' with it)

dog crates are so good for bunnies, it's a shame they don't market them for bunnies as well as for dogs, there's so much more room to move and stratch!

I'm okay thanks, been a bit ill so was quiet on the forum for a while!

Carlton is really turning into a big man, he has realised the damage he can do with his teeth! and is generally a loveable naughty monster!

Lauralou
19-07-2008, 01:58 PM
Yeah that's what i read up as well.
I'll see if i can get them neutered like after the 1st batch or something.
I just want them to have a chance to become parent.

There's this shop called Pet Lovers Center
http://www.petloverscentre.com/
They do all sorts of things related to pets and their branch is all over malaysia and singapore as well ^_^. I went to them to buy this 3kg of HAY!

i noticed the hay, it looks delicious! i'm glad you've found a good place for supplies, i remember you were having difficulty before.

I agree with Amy&Amber in reference to the breeding, it can be difficult to find homes, and pet shop bunnies are known to have genetic problems in their background and you never know what may happen. there's so many things to consider, like if mummy got into trouble giving birth - one kit stuck in the birth canal could kill mummy and all the babies. :(

i'm not preaching or anything but you really, really must do some reading on it. :wave:

Thea & Bobbin
19-07-2008, 02:02 PM
Hello :wave:

Lovely to see Carpet and Marble again, and nice to see they have a bigger cage ready and waiting for them :thumb:

Please put something down in the new one if it has a wire floor, to protect their feet :)

I wouldn't seperate a bonded pair, they need to be together. But I would get them neutered, baby bunnies sound cute, but unless you have homes already waiting for them you would be bringing them into a world with no need for more bunnies :( If you have them neutered they would feel no need to be parents, they don't want to be parents, sexual activity is just instinct - they don't feel the need to be a mummy and daddy like humans do :roll: :lol:

Thea :)

Stalvros
19-07-2008, 02:02 PM
Please dont breed them, do you know how many rabbits die in rescues around the world due to over population? :cry:

Yes the babies are very cute, but can you afford to get them all neutred/spayed before they leave you as well as the vaccinating?

hmmm ill do what i can
i can only take care of 3 at most though.
but the rest will go to my cousins and all ^_^.
(they're very good owners too)

but anyways, both carpet and marble are still too young.
We'll see how it goes. I might get them neutered as well if i feel that my work gets too hectic and i couldnt spend as much time with them as before.

*lily*
19-07-2008, 02:04 PM
How old are the rabbits?

charlie82
19-07-2008, 02:11 PM
:roll:

Your rabbits are actually just about ready to start breeding now.. Please take other people's advice and have them neutered.

Stalvros
19-07-2008, 02:39 PM
:roll:

Your rabbits are actually just about ready to start breeding now.. Please take other people's advice and have them neutered.

I'm finding out more as well with regards to having them neutered at pets lovers center.

Ey? I thought rabbits are just about ready to start breeding only at 5 months?
Or at least according to this site;
http://www.debmark.com/rabbits/breeding.htm

*lily*
19-07-2008, 03:14 PM
They may be classed as READY to breed at 5 months but can actually get pregnant from 12 weeks. Even at 5 months they are wayyyyy to young to be having young of their own.

Although I appreciate that information may not be as available in Singapore as it is here, I do still find this post very frustrating.

Their original cage is very, very small, they could hardly move around in there even when tiny. I will ask again how large is the dog cage you have now bought for them. I hope it is the 48inch and that they still get plenty of time outside the cage.

Please get the rabbits neutered asap. You could get a LOT of babies in each pregnancy. In the meantime, they really should be split but I would hate to think of either of them being kept for any length of time in that tiny cage :(

Stalvros
19-07-2008, 03:23 PM
The new cage dimension is 91cm.(L) 69cm (W) 58cm (H)

im training them to be house rabbits.
but i think only marble is potty trained at the moment.
carpet is still..... bluh......

janice
19-07-2008, 03:38 PM
The new cage dimension is 91cm.(L) 69cm (W) 58cm (H)

im training them to be house rabbits.
but i think only marble is potty trained at the moment.
carpet is still..... bluh......

I usually find that rabbits after being neutered are more reliable with their toilet training

Stalvros
19-07-2008, 09:56 PM
I usually find that rabbits after being neutered are more reliable with their toilet training

yeah thats what i heard as well~
ill see if i can contact one of the vet i know with regards to this.
What's the process like anyways for those who have experience?

TheGaffer
19-07-2008, 10:06 PM
All my 6 are neutered and are really good at using litter trays now. They are also really happy living in pairs, they keep each other company during the day.

Do you have a vet local to you? best thing to do is call in and ask them if they have experience with rabbits. You'd probably be able to get your boy done now and your girl in a month or so.

Stalvros
19-07-2008, 10:17 PM
All my 6 are neutered and are really good at using litter trays now. They are also really happy living in pairs, they keep each other company during the day.

Do you have a vet local to you? best thing to do is call in and ask them if they have experience with rabbits. You'd probably be able to get your boy done now and your girl in a month or so.

not sure if they have it in pet lovers center but ill ask on monday.
what's the process like anyways?
like you do need some sort of specialised equipment or something?

TheGaffer
19-07-2008, 10:20 PM
not sure if they have it in pet lovers center but ill ask on monday.
what's the process like anyways?
like you do need some sort of specialised equipment or something?

What do you mean? As in to look after them after the op? They usually go to the vet in the morning, have their op, come home in the afternoon. They're usually quiet for a day or 2 and just want to snuggle down on a blanket or something then their back to their normal selves.

Stalvros
20-07-2008, 12:21 AM
What do you mean? As in to look after them after the op? They usually go to the vet in the morning, have their op, come home in the afternoon. They're usually quiet for a day or 2 and just want to snuggle down on a blanket or something then their back to their normal selves.

ive got blankets.
do i need anything else?
(just to prepare before hand)

Lauralou
20-07-2008, 12:22 AM
ive got blankets.
do i need anything else?
(just to prepare before hand)

no, they generally have their pain relief before the come home and you just need to keep an eye on the eating, drinking and pooping, that's all! easy peasy! :wave:

Stalvros
20-07-2008, 01:12 AM
Finally done setting everything up this morning.
Had to do some touch-ups with the cage and all.

I promised you guys some pictures.
So here they are;

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b193/Stalvros/Pets_Rabbits/New%20Cage/IMG_0154.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b193/Stalvros/Pets_Rabbits/New%20Cage/IMG_0158.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b193/Stalvros/Pets_Rabbits/New%20Cage/IMG_0162.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b193/Stalvros/Pets_Rabbits/New%20Cage/IMG_0167.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b193/Stalvros/Pets_Rabbits/New%20Cage/IMG_0175.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b193/Stalvros/Pets_Rabbits/New%20Cage/IMG_0170.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b193/Stalvros/Pets_Rabbits/New%20Cage/IMG_0164.jpg

Starlight
20-07-2008, 01:22 AM
Could you put newspaper on the actual wire floor to protect their feet?

Bless them they are getting so big now!! And are so cute!

purplebumble
20-07-2008, 01:26 AM
awww nicholas..theyre so big now! but still sooo weeny:love::love:

im so happy for you that you found a good supply place finally..how are you and your finacee?

i have been a bit busy rearranging living areas for my buns too!!

oh thats a much better size. try putting some boards across the wires...and then towels like you have..they love them...keeps their feet good too.

aw no please dont...too many bad things go wrong with breeodng bunnies..first off theyre way too young second off as soon as mummy bunny gives birth..she can get pregnant again right away:shock: so its sensible to let them get fixed right away....saves them and you any heartaches.....

to fix little boy buns is easy and within a few days they get litter trained so much better andhave reocvered in a few days mainly. littel girl buns is tricky and a bit risky with the general anaesthetic but your fiancee will tell you its the same with humans! she will need care..making sure shes warm enough (not a problem you have there:lol:) comfy enough..not pulling stitches out...making sure by looking that the wound isnt oozy..lucky your fiancee is int he right job to look at that eh:lol:

but withing a week or two shell be right as rain..and slowly easier to potty train and the pee pee fromt hem both will longer stink up the place so bad..as when they arent done it only takes a few wees to make the place reek..no matter how many times you change their cage and potty..
when both buns are fixed the smell will be replced by little smells:lol:

theyre both sooo cute....:love:

Stalvros
20-07-2008, 01:31 AM
Could you put newspaper on the actual wire floor to protect their feet?

oh, im actually placing those towels on the
actual wire floor (i've mentioned that some of them still needed
to be dried -> full of urine stains and everything)

But anyways before that i thought both of 'em
should have a feel of their new cage ^_^

Starlight
20-07-2008, 01:33 AM
oh, im actually placing those towels on the
actual wire floor (i've mentioned that some of them still needed
to be dried -> full of urine stains and everything)

But anyways before that i thought both of 'em
should have a feel of their new cage ^_^

Aww bless!! How did they react to their new home?!

Stalvros
20-07-2008, 01:35 AM
awww nicholas..theyre so big now! but still sooo weeny:love::love:

im so happy for you that you found a good supply place finally..how are you and your finacee?

i have been a bit busy rearranging living areas for my buns too!!

oh thats a much better size. try putting some boards across the wires...and then towels like you have..they love them...keeps their feet good too.

aw no please dont...too many bad things go wrong with breeodng bunnies..first off theyre way too young second off as soon as mummy bunny gives birth..she can get pregnant again right away:shock: so its sensible to let them get fixed right away....saves them and you any heartaches.....

to fix little boy buns is easy and within a few days they get litter trained so much better andhave reocvered in a few days mainly. littel girl buns is tricky and a bit risky with the general anaesthetic but your fiancee will tell you its the same with humans! she will need care..making sure shes warm enough (not a problem you have there:lol:) comfy enough..not pulling stitches out...making sure by looking that the wound isnt oozy..lucky your fiancee is int he right job to look at that eh:lol:

but withing a week or two shell be right as rain..and slowly easier to potty train and the pee pee fromt hem both will longer stink up the place so bad..as when they arent done it only takes a few wees to make the place reek..no matter how many times you change their cage and potty..
when both buns are fixed the smell will be replced by little smells:lol:

theyre both sooo cute....:love:

Hahaha hello again purple!
it's been such a long time since i heard from you ^_^.

Ummm, im still trying to contact the vet at pet lovers center to see if they offer this neuter service. It's sunday today -_-. Have to wait 'till monday :(.

Stalvros
20-07-2008, 01:37 AM
Aww bless!! How did they react to their new home?!

I think carpet....
i dont know, carpet's always quiet and all~
he just sniff here, sniff there....
and of course... peeee (ugh)

marble however, loves it!
before i could put her down to her new cage, she JUMPED
out of my arm RIGHT into the new cage and start hopping
about!

It's been 1 hour now since i last placed them in the new cage.
I just took a peek and they're chasing each other now~

Starlight
20-07-2008, 03:53 AM
Aww cute!!

Stator
20-07-2008, 01:43 PM
I love them :love:

I would get the girl neutred soon so that you don't have to seperate them :( You can get 7 or more babies in a single litter :shock:

Stalvros
20-07-2008, 01:54 PM
I love them :love:

I would get the girl neutred soon so that you don't have to seperate them :( You can get 7 or more babies in a single litter :shock:

hey hey timboh ^_^
yeah i know, was just reading up on it.
i really need to know more about this procedure.

Stator
20-07-2008, 02:49 PM
hey hey timboh ^_^
yeah i know, was just reading up on it.
i really need to know more about this procedure.

I have had both of my girls done, so feel free to ask questions :D

The hardest thing is always to find a vet who has done lots of rabbits and knows what they are doing :?

ps keep the photos coming :love:

Lauralou
20-07-2008, 03:05 PM
ps keep the photos coming :love:

yes, yes, more photos!!

:love::love::love:

Stalvros
20-07-2008, 03:42 PM
As promised, here is my photos.
I think they're still not settled in the new cage yet.
Usually they'd sleep around this hour but i still caught
them playing around jumping about ^_^.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b193/Stalvros/Pets_Rabbits/New%20Cage/IMG_0182.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b193/Stalvros/Pets_Rabbits/New%20Cage/IMG_0183.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b193/Stalvros/Pets_Rabbits/New%20Cage/IMG_0184.jpg

Oh and also, i actually bought the cage mount hay holder
as shown in this picture. I find that it's easier for them to eat the hay
rather then it hanging as it keeps moving about.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b193/Stalvros/Pets_Rabbits/New%20Cage/IMG_0179.jpg

PS: Still drying the cloth to be placed on the steel cage.
Dang these rabbits peed hard on all of them.

*lily*
20-07-2008, 03:46 PM
You really need to get some kind of solid base on that cage, the poor rabbits feet :(

Stalvros
20-07-2008, 03:54 PM
You really need to get some kind of solid base on that cage, the poor rabbits feet :(

I was just mentioning
'PS: Still drying the cloth to be placed on the steel cage.
Dang these rabbits peed hard on all of them.'

... in my previous post? lol

*lily*
20-07-2008, 03:56 PM
I read what you said about the cloths but I mean something solid, plastic or wood anything to give them a kinder base to walk on.

Stalvros
20-07-2008, 04:18 PM
I read what you said about the cloths but I mean something solid, plastic or wood anything to give them a kinder base to walk on.

oh i had this wooden plank.
But now it's all torn off because its wet and they keep nibbling on it :(
So what i did was to just wrap the wooden plank with the cloth ^_^

Maizey
20-07-2008, 04:24 PM
I'm sorry but they are probably jumping about because their paws are in pain.Please get some lino or something to lay in the bottom of their cage so that it covers all the bottom of the cage or they are going to some serious damage to their paws.

Lauralou
20-07-2008, 04:28 PM
:wave: do they do anything like correx (http://www.spadcombat.co.uk/spad/images/stories/SSHRKU/2mm.jpg) over there that you could get your hands on?

sturdy and wipe clean, lovely! then you can pop the towel on top and not worry about exposed bars when you need to wash it. :thumb:

milly100
20-07-2008, 04:37 PM
Please put something sturdy over those bars on the floor or your poor bunnies will have very sore feet. Also maybe you could attach a play pen to their dog crate to give them more room as once they start growing they wont have enough room. A happy rabbit has lots of room

Stalvros
20-07-2008, 04:41 PM
:wave: do they do anything like correx (http://www.spadcombat.co.uk/spad/images/stories/SSHRKU/2mm.jpg) over there that you could get your hands on?

sturdy and wipe clean, lovely! then you can pop the towel on top and not worry about exposed bars when you need to wash it. :thumb:

wow what's this?
hmm ill see if i can get these in those hardware stores.

As for the play-pen attachment, there isn't much space left.
So the best i did at the moment was to bring them down to the garden for a walk.

I'm trying to scout for a good condo attachment.
As you know, in singapore we dont have a lot of horizontal space.
vertical space however..... that might help

milly100
20-07-2008, 04:46 PM
Its just that rabbits need room. Maybe this should have been looked into before you got them as they are gorgeous. Im not having a go or anything its just that I hate seeing rabbits being kept in small housing.

Stalvros
20-07-2008, 04:52 PM
yeah i understand your concern ^_^.
I did mention that im training them to be house rabbits?
so hopefully this will help you ease up your concern as well XD

at the moment we're also re-arranging furnitures.
I was thinking if i can combine the cage with the kitchen.
but we'll see how it goes.

Lauralou
20-07-2008, 05:37 PM
wow what's this?
hmm ill see if i can get these in those hardware stores.

As for the play-pen attachment, there isn't much space left.
So the best i did at the moment was to bring them down to the garden for a walk.

I'm trying to scout for a good condo attachment.
As you know, in singapore we dont have a lot of horizontal space.
vertical space however..... that might help

a hardware store would be worth a try, i got mine from a signmaking company. i'm sure any sort of hard wearing plastic would do, that you are able to cut to the right size with normal scissors or scalpel, obviously!

TanyaB
18-08-2008, 03:38 PM
beautiful bunnys! :D
I hope you managed to get something to put on the floor to protect there poor feet?