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SOAD
12-07-2008, 09:46 AM
There is blood coming out of factory bunny's bits, her belly is massive, is she just about to give birth? I don't want to rush her to the vets if that is what it is??????????????????????????????????? no babies in hutch, the bleeding has only just started it's fresh, we're not talking loads and it's deffo coming out of her bits not her bum. I have just moved her to a new hutch, was moving them all around as I had big hutch and run free for her, shoudl I put her back to where she was, og **** help me someone?

monkeypuzzler
12-07-2008, 09:48 AM
Not 100%, but I don't believe she should be bleeding like that even if she is about to give birth (have never heard any of the folks on here who have had kits having found blood in the nest is what I'm thinking), I would play it safe and get her to the vets, or at least get straight on the phone with them for advice. Sending major vibes.

Amy & Amber
12-07-2008, 09:51 AM
Oh No Tree!

I have no advice either sorry :cry:

I can send you and bunnie MASSIVE VIBES..

keep us updated x

SOAD
12-07-2008, 09:51 AM
Just spoke to the vets rushing her down now

Amy & Amber
12-07-2008, 09:52 AM
Just spoke to the vets rushing her down now

ok... keep us updated hugs xx

FriskyClover
12-07-2008, 09:52 AM
Lots of vibes, sounds to me like she needs a vet or at least ring one for advice.

monkeypuzzler
12-07-2008, 09:52 AM
Glad they are seeing her right away, keep us posted. :(

Thea & Bobbin
12-07-2008, 09:52 AM
Oh goodness hun! Hope you can suss it out, I've never seen a birth... how about putting her back where she was and give the vets a call, to see what they say??

Good luck xx

EDIT: Good luck at the vets!

sally1974
12-07-2008, 09:53 AM
I have no great advice either, but agree with monkeypuzzler I would try the vet. Good luck Tree let us know what happens. Sending vibes
Sallyx

sally1974
12-07-2008, 09:53 AM
Just spoke to the vets rushing her down now

Good luck hun
Sallyx

bunny babe
12-07-2008, 09:55 AM
Hope she is OK.

karen354
12-07-2008, 09:56 AM
:shock:Oh no!! Vibes for her ..

chloaster
12-07-2008, 10:05 AM
Hope she's ok.x

donnamt
12-07-2008, 10:09 AM
oh no :( i really hope shes ok

Snowy
12-07-2008, 10:09 AM
Hope everything is OK!!

XMissySJx
12-07-2008, 10:10 AM
sending vibes for her!!!!xxx

bunlover
12-07-2008, 10:12 AM
hope she ok i would likely to be a cancer or pyometra(sp?) but i really hope its nothing major and that she will be fine when vets have given her something for it. hope she ok sending all my vibes....xxxx

kayj
12-07-2008, 10:42 AM
Hope evertything is ok, Karen my fosterer had this last Sunday with her 18wk old french lop. She was absolutely fine in herself eating and running about as normal. She was taken to the vets and my vet spayed her on Monday:D

vicky206
12-07-2008, 10:44 AM
hope this girly is ok :cry:

SOAD
12-07-2008, 10:54 AM
OMG I was crying and shaking so bad when I got the vets, I was going she;s got vhd :oops: made a prat of myself in the reception. They rushed me in, they can feel 3 to 4 babies in her, they don't know how far she's gone they have no scanner as emergency vets don't even know if the babies are alive. She's ok in herself had her tempreture took and everything, should I find vets with a scanner?????????

I was in such a state about vhd, even though he assures me it's not he's letting me take up Alexis and two stray bunnies from the night before yesterday as they're not vac'd rushing back up now with them.

Should I try and find vets with scanner, wtf is going on :cry::cry::cry:

Carol X
12-07-2008, 11:00 AM
Good luck Soad. Hope everything works out well. Fingers are all crossed.

sazzy
12-07-2008, 11:01 AM
Aww hope the babies are ok milly bled when she had her babies it was all in the nest area hope she is ok an hopefully the babies will be alive

SOAD
12-07-2008, 11:04 AM
I can't find vets with a scanner, ringing round now omg why is it :censored: saturday what do I do :cry::cry::cry:, should I just leave her to give birth, one vet I just called said they're good at giving birth and to leave her as she's ok in herself?

Tamsin
12-07-2008, 11:05 AM
Gosh, I don't know. A scanner would be handy but it might not help much. I guess they'll monitor her a few hrs and do an emergency spay if nothing happens naturally.

It doesn't sound at all like vhd. Often there isn't actually much/any bleeding with that.

Tamsin
12-07-2008, 11:06 AM
Has she built a nest?

If she's gonna have them naturally it shouldn't take long.

SOAD
12-07-2008, 11:07 AM
Th3y sent her back home, got her here, trying to find a vet to admit her, do they admit pregnant buns, I am in a really tiz. Just rushing Alexis and the other strays back to the vet now for jabs, just to be safe i feel sick.

Happy Hopping
12-07-2008, 11:07 AM
No, you don't need a vet w/ scanner. Don't you have an experience rabbit savvy vet? That's all you need. Scanner or not, makes no big difference.

charlie82
12-07-2008, 11:14 AM
Oh dear :cry:

I hope she is ok. I think you are doing the right thing by trying to get her admitted. They do bleed quite a bit when they are giving birth, but I would be wary of complications she might be having. Good luck!
xx

Bavarian Bunny
12-07-2008, 11:37 AM
Good luck. Hope she will be alright. :(

Jack's-Jane
12-07-2008, 12:39 PM
Only just seen this thread.
The Bun should not be bleeding prior to giving birth :?
Hope you can find a Vet who can help

Janex

SOAD
12-07-2008, 12:41 PM
got back from the vets again with three rescues that weren't vac'd. trying to find vets with a scanner.

Leanne
12-07-2008, 12:44 PM
Oh no! What have the vets said? Have they given you a time frame of when she should give birth and when you should take her back if she needs assistance?

I would keep her in a cosy enclosed, quiet hutch and just keep a close eye on her, you can take her temperature yourself and if it rises above 103 or drops below 101 or if excessive blood loss occurs take her back in.

Hopefully its just the membrane that has come away and she will give birth naturally :)

Vibes for her ~*~*~

Lindt bunny
12-07-2008, 12:44 PM
Have you tried any other forums for people in your area? Such as dog forums as some dog breeders have scanners???? just a thought.

Good luck.

K x

Maizy
12-07-2008, 12:47 PM
Oh good luck with this, poor bun sending loads of ((((vibes))).

SOAD
12-07-2008, 12:54 PM
Thanks guys, well I'm just waiting for a vet at another vets to call me back. I am so panicked. Thanks Leanne, have you known of this happening before then, vet said there was deffo babies there, but it was hard to tell how long etc.

SOAD
12-07-2008, 01:23 PM
None of the vets can help, the one with scanner has said there is no point in scanning her, all they're going to tell me is she's pregnant, I have been basically told there is nothing anyone can do.

Jack's-Jane
12-07-2008, 01:30 PM
None of the vets can help, the one with scanner has said there is no point in scanning her, all they're going to tell me is she's pregnant, I have been basically told there is nothing anyone can do.

How helpful....

How is she within herself ?
Is the bleeding continuous or has it stopped now?
If she will let you can you gently place your hands on her abdomen and see if you can feel the uterus contracting.

Janex

SOAD
12-07-2008, 02:30 PM
Ok off to look now, have just been out to buy a themometer. No help at all, none of them will see her, they keep saying her her temp is normal eating and she's ok in herself they can't do anything, until monday. The one said they could scan her, but even if there is something wrong there is nothing they can d about it as there is no one in to op. My own vet is closed. I have to take her up to st georges if her temp changes, but they still wont see her. I got the vet I saw to ring st georges and they still wont help me. I wll go and look at the bleeding, but she wasn't bleeding earlier it was in her hutch, there was like a tear drop worth on her bits, but wasn't bleeding none stop or even had a flow, I guess she's what we woudl call spotting. Off to feel her uterus, not sure I even know where it is. :cry:

I have rang the brc for advice, but they give me a number someone local, but I left her message on vm as they weren't in.

Snowy
12-07-2008, 02:44 PM
Have you checked to see if she has given birth anywhere?

Do you want me to drive up to you and give you a hand?

SOAD
12-07-2008, 02:56 PM
Thanks Theo, this is my worst nightmare have come trues this is the worse thing ever. My Mom has just turned up, I have rang the vets and screamed at the them, I can't stop crying, they're going to see her, her temp has dropped why did it take for this before one of the vets to take me seriously :cry:

raine
12-07-2008, 03:06 PM
Ive only just come on and seen this. Im so sorry Tree, what a fright. I hope that they are helping her now.

lisa82
12-07-2008, 03:11 PM
I really hope you and this poor bun get through this ok :(

kayj
12-07-2008, 03:17 PM
Calm yourself down, it is no point getting into a panic as this will only stress bun out.

Jack's-Jane
12-07-2008, 03:38 PM
Thanks Theo, this is my worst nightmare have come trues this is the worse thing ever. My Mom has just turned up, I have rang the vets and screamed at the them, I can't stop crying, they're going to see her, her temp has dropped why did it take for this before one of the vets to take me seriously :cry:

Because by the sound of it they didn't want to have to do a C-Section on a Saturday..........:censored:

I am really sorry you have been treated like this , its not right :evil:
You have done everything you can to get the Bun help, I really hope she'll be OK

Janex

Snowy
12-07-2008, 03:38 PM
Calm yourself down, it is no point getting into a panic as this will only stress bun out.

Kay......... Tree and calm are not 2 words you say in the same sentance!!

Snowy
12-07-2008, 03:39 PM
Any news Tree, my offer still stands if you need any help just give me a shout. Hope you are OK and the bunny, let us know

honeybunny
12-07-2008, 03:42 PM
Tree just caught up with this and can't add anymore than others have said.
Really hope she is ok..and you too..sorry your vets seem to have let you down
Hugs coming your way and vibes for the bunny xx

Lea-Anne
12-07-2008, 03:48 PM
Any news???? :shock:

Indiechic
12-07-2008, 04:16 PM
he hun

only just come online, gosh i hope shes ok.

i know its hard, but do try to remain calm x

BunnyBekkie
12-07-2008, 04:26 PM
:(
I really hope bunny & babies are ok

Sending lots of vibes for bunnies and calming vibes for Tree *hugs*

CarmenCole
12-07-2008, 04:27 PM
Flippin eck hun! It sounds like you are having hell there. Can I do anything? Do you want me to check if there's a vet with scanner my side? Anything we can do?

Vibes for factory bun and hugs for you.

Carm x

SOAD
12-07-2008, 04:34 PM
Thansk guys and thank you so much Theo :love:


When I went to check her temp before I left, there was more blood, so got on the phone to st georges and they told me to take her up. Just got back from vets and finally got someone to do something, I am so relieved. St Georges have admitted her, they checked her eyes and gums and said she wasn't anemic, then turned her over and her bits were pale and bloody and they were like oh right. Felt her tum and said yep they can feel the babies but they do not think they're alive and are worried about her (FINALLY). They have put her straight on oxygen and a drip, the vet that sown on Scooby's nose has been called in and they're going to spay her they said there was no hope for babies and she still might not make it. She is being operated on right now, they said she will be on oxygen throughout, but they can't guarantee she will make it :cry::cry:, but at least she's got a chance now. I am so happy that someone had listened to me and is doing something to help her, at least she's got a chance now. Why are vets so difficult on the weekend. :(

Indiechic
12-07-2008, 04:37 PM
oh my gosh, i hope everything goes ok chick x

biscuitblossom
12-07-2008, 04:38 PM
Poor little girlie....vibes for both of you.

BunnyBekkie
12-07-2008, 04:38 PM
I really hope she's ok :cry:

Letichia
12-07-2008, 04:42 PM
Poor little girl:(...sending positive vibes.

FriskyClover
12-07-2008, 04:43 PM
I hope she pulls through.

Hugs and vibes

FC xx

raine
12-07-2008, 04:45 PM
Poor little bunny. I hope, so much, that shes okay. You have fought to give her a chance in life Tree. Thinking of you both.xxxxx

Leanne
12-07-2008, 04:46 PM
Lots of vibes for her ~*~*~*~

Hugs for you Tree ((((*))))

The Duchess
12-07-2008, 04:48 PM
Just caught up with this thread.

Sending lots of positive thoughts Factory Bunny's way Tree.

I do so hope she does well.

xx

donnamt
12-07-2008, 04:50 PM
awww hun sending lots of vibes that she makes it thro the op xxxx

Snowy
12-07-2008, 04:56 PM
That's OK Tree, it's just so frustrating!!, I am pleased they are doing something for her now and hopefully she will pull through

(((Hugs))) to you Tree

kayj
12-07-2008, 05:13 PM
Aww Tree hope all is ok, I am thinking of you and you know where I am if you need me:)

angeleyes
12-07-2008, 05:16 PM
Oh no poor bunny :( I hope she is ok

Maizy
12-07-2008, 05:21 PM
I'm so pleased you've finally been given some help and really hope she pulls through (((((((HUGE GET WELL VIBES))))))).

jackiestone
12-07-2008, 05:23 PM
HOPE SHE WILL BE OK :love:

monkeypuzzler
12-07-2008, 05:25 PM
Sorry it's taken them this long to listen to you, but glad something is now being done. Sending vibes for her.

SOAD
12-07-2008, 05:28 PM
Vet has called, she did have four fully formed babies in her and they were all dead, she had a tear in her uterus and she was aborting them. She's coming round and they've put her in an oxygen chamber, they said her heart has been beating fast to make up for the lose of blood, she's not out of the woods yet and I've got to call back in a couple of hours to see how she is, but so far so good. :)

Awwwww her poor babies :cry:

Lea-Anne
12-07-2008, 05:31 PM
Oh no what a shame but thank goodness she now has a fighting chance! Come on little bun, you have got this far xxx :cry:

Bunny Buddy
12-07-2008, 05:31 PM
Sending healing, recovery, get well vibes ... (come on girl .. nearly there now)

The Duchess
12-07-2008, 05:31 PM
Binky free little babies.

Lots of healing vibes for mummy bunny.

AlisonA
12-07-2008, 05:31 PM
Well done for persisting - sounds as if her life would have been in grave danger very soon had you not continued to ask. Fingers crossed she recovers well xxx

JoJoWoz
12-07-2008, 05:33 PM
Hi Tree,
Keeping all our fingers crossed for bun, will keep checking on forum for updates.

LuceMarbles
12-07-2008, 05:38 PM
:cry: So sorry Tree, sending lots of vibes to you and bunny mummy too. Was following this thread earlier hoping all was going to be okay. Glad you persisted and a lesson for us all - don't give in.

Becca6
12-07-2008, 05:45 PM
Sending bunny hugs for a quick recovery - and calming vibes for you Tree xx

Snowy
12-07-2008, 05:49 PM
Poor bunny, binky free little babies:cry::cry:

Really hope she pulls through, sending tons of vibes for this little girl

Ali
12-07-2008, 05:49 PM
Sending loads of Vibes to you ((((((((((VIBES))))))))))

sally1974
12-07-2008, 05:50 PM
sending lots of vibes for mummy bun, bunky free little babies:cry:
Sallyx

charlie82
12-07-2008, 05:52 PM
Giving where this bunny came from and the situation around that day I would say fate has taken a hand... she was clearly meant to come to you.

I hope she pulls through, she's one lucky bunny to have found you.

xx

Steph
12-07-2008, 05:53 PM
Mate as Ive said on the phone its fate the factory bun found you, she needed your help to save herself. You have done everything possible for her. Im so sorry about the little ones :cry: Sending lots of vibes to bunny and hugs to you. Why arent vets more helpful out of hours ... this is a question that needs to be answered and then sorted ! Im here if you need me.

XMissySJx
12-07-2008, 05:53 PM
poor babies :(

i really hope that she makes it, brave girly :(

Thea & Bobbin
12-07-2008, 05:56 PM
Oh Tree, this is bitter sweet news :( Binky free babies xx

Sending every vibes for her to pull through xxx

Jack's-Jane
12-07-2008, 05:56 PM
I hope every Vet that failed to give adequate care to this Bunny feels thoroughly ashamed of themselves.
I really hope the Doe makes it and if she does its down to your persistence Tree. It should not be this hard to get Veterinary Care for a Rabbit in great need. Well down for all your efforts......and for not decking anyone yet !!

Binky Free Kits :cry:

Janex

Jayne
12-07-2008, 05:58 PM
Thank goodness she had you fighting for her,hope she recovers soon and is back home for a cuddle before you know it.

Leanne
12-07-2008, 06:00 PM
I hope every Vet that failed to give adequate care to this Bunny feels thoroughly ashamed of themselves.
I really hope the Doe makes it and if she does its down to your persistence Tree. It should not be this hard to get Veterinary Care for a Rabbit in great need. Well down for all your efforts......and for not decking anyone yet !!

Binky Free Kits :cry:

Janex

Ditto :D

Binky free ickle kits :(

It was fate she came to you :)

bunny babe
12-07-2008, 06:03 PM
I am so sorry the babies never made it. You have given this bun the best chance you can. Well done. Lets keep everything crossed that she pulls through. Vibes to you too.

janice
12-07-2008, 06:16 PM
Just caught up with this thread, so sorry you have had a sh** day today. Please do let us know how she does.

areia
12-07-2008, 06:24 PM
she is in the best place finally you're persistance has paid off, you are the best mom in the world for her, and your love for her will pull her through {{{{{{{{{{{{ lots of bunny vibes}}}}}}}}}} let us know how she gets on

karen354
12-07-2008, 06:32 PM
:shock: Oh no!
I'm so sorry about her babies dying :cry::cry:
I'm so glad you are with her and lots of vibes for her ..

donnamt
12-07-2008, 06:36 PM
poor little thing.. im sorry she lost her babies :cry::cry::cry:

hope she recovers ok xxxx

Fairy13
12-07-2008, 06:45 PM
I'm so sorry about her ickle babies, sending loads of vibes for a full recovery for her, poor love x

Lucy
12-07-2008, 07:08 PM
Awww christ tree, so sorry to put this other stray on you as well as all this :cry:

luvabun
12-07-2008, 07:11 PM
Fingers and paws crossed for this girlie now... at least she has a fighting chance now she's with you, something she didn't have before.

March Hare
12-07-2008, 07:19 PM
Awww Tree, I am SO sorry to hear about all of this. :cry: :cry: But a HUGE 'WELL DONE!' to YOU for keeping at it and not giving up.....you have saved her from what would probably have been a terrible death, and given her a chance for a nice life! ::hugs:: xxxxx

Binky free at the Bridge, poor wee babies. :cry: :cry: xxxxx

kayj
12-07-2008, 07:27 PM
Tree we have everything crossed here for the little bun. Hope you are ok. Well done for sticking with it and getting a vet to listen

SOAD
12-07-2008, 07:43 PM
I just spoke to the vets, she's not coming round :cry::cry:, she's still on oxygen they said at the minute it's not looking very good for her. :cry::cry::cry:

Jack's-Jane
12-07-2008, 07:44 PM
I just spoke to the vets, she's not coming round :cry::cry:, she's still on oxygen they said at the minute it's not looking very good for her. :cry::cry::cry:

Poor little soul

:(

Janex

Steph
12-07-2008, 07:44 PM
Sending tonnes more vibes to building site bunny. She so deserves to live :cry: Hugs to you Tree xxxx

Tinsel
12-07-2008, 07:45 PM
oh noooo *more vibes* hang on in there little one!

Thea & Bobbin
12-07-2008, 07:47 PM
Oh Tree! Come on little girl, muster all your strength xxx

((( VIBES )))

bunny babe
12-07-2008, 07:47 PM
Oh no, sending lots of vibes to this brave bunny. I really hope she can pull through. Big hugs to you too, you have been through so much today yourself.

lisa82
12-07-2008, 07:49 PM
Oh no :( please come round little girly :(

SOAD
12-07-2008, 07:53 PM
She died, Dusty died :cry::cry::cry::cry: the vet :cry: they just called, I can't believe that I really wanted her to make it. :cry::cry::cry:

Samantha
12-07-2008, 07:54 PM
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Steph
12-07-2008, 07:55 PM
Im gutted for you mate :cry: :cry: Poor Dusty :cry: Sending hugs hun xxxx

areia
12-07-2008, 07:55 PM
ohhhh hun im so sorry you did youre up most best for her, im sure she wouldnt of suffered with the care she was reciveing in the time {{{{{{{{{{{{{bigs hugs to you and binky free little one }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

Samantha
12-07-2008, 07:55 PM
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bunny babe
12-07-2008, 07:55 PM
:cry::cry::cry:I am so sorry, I don't know what to say. You gave her the best chance. Binky free Dusty.

Lucy
12-07-2008, 07:57 PM
Oh no, poor girl. Please don't feel bad, the b*****ds that let her out should be the ones feeling bad for what they've done.

Bunny Buddy
12-07-2008, 07:59 PM
I'm so so sorry to hear she's gone, you must feel so deflated after all the efforts you've gone to. Please try and console yourself with what her life would have been like if you hadn't gone out and caught her. On her own in the wild she would have had a much worse fate.

I feel extremely angry at the various vets this morning though, why didn't the take a bit more notice?!

March Hare
12-07-2008, 08:00 PM
OMG hun, I am so, SO sorry. :cry: :cry: This actually has me in tears.....you fought SO hard for her....and SHE fought so hard. It is just so unfair. :cry: :cry: :cry:

Binky free at the Bridge, Dusty.....free to love and care for your sweet little babies. xxxxx :cry: :cry:

tykechick
12-07-2008, 08:00 PM
I have been following this thread most of the day in the hope she would pull through :cry: so sorry for your loss!

lisa82
12-07-2008, 08:01 PM
I'm so sorry she had to go. She knew how hard you tried for her. Binky free Dusty with your babies :cry:

donnamt
12-07-2008, 08:01 PM
:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:

im so sorry hun *HUUUUUGGGGSSSSS*

Tamsin
12-07-2008, 08:02 PM
I'm so sorry :cry:

Snowy
12-07-2008, 08:02 PM
I am so sorry, this is awful, it just breaks your heart!!

janice
12-07-2008, 08:05 PM
So sorry Tree, we all know you gave 110% of yourself to this poor bun.

bluebunny
12-07-2008, 08:08 PM
So sorry xx

karen354
12-07-2008, 08:09 PM
She died, Dusty died :cry::cry::cry::cry: the vet :cry: they just called, I can't believe that I really wanted her to make it. :cry::cry::cry:

I'm so sorry :(:cry::cry::cry:

The Duchess
12-07-2008, 08:11 PM
So sorry.

This is so sad.

Jack's-Jane
12-07-2008, 08:11 PM
:cry::cry::cry:

From Dusty With Love

I have to leave you now
I haven't known you long
But my Babies really need me
To feed them and make them strong
Thank you
For all you have done for me
You were my voice, my protector
I wont forget you Tree

karen354
12-07-2008, 08:13 PM
:cry::cry::cry:

From Dusty With Love

I have to leave you now
I haven't known you long
But my Babies really need me
To feed them and make them strong
Thank you
For all you have done for me
You were my voice, my protector
I wont forget you Tree


:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry: That's lovely Jane and so true :cry::cry: her babies need her..

bunny babe
12-07-2008, 08:15 PM
Jane - very touching and I am sure very true. It has brought me to tears (again).

honeybunny
12-07-2008, 08:19 PM
So sorry Tree:cry:

Tinsel
12-07-2008, 08:20 PM
I'm so sorry for you and for her. So wanted this story to have the happy ending it deserved. She's at peace now and no-one could have done more for her than you did. :cry::cry::cry:

Lspacehopper
12-07-2008, 08:21 PM
So sad :(

I'm sorry xx

JayUK
12-07-2008, 08:22 PM
I'm sorry Tree, you did all that could be done, she'll be at the bridge with her babes :(

Rallybunny
12-07-2008, 08:24 PM
I'm really sorry to hear that, what a shame. :(

Bavarian Bunny
12-07-2008, 08:25 PM
OH now, I was hoping to find better news. So sorry, binky free Dusty and babies. :cry::cry:

billysmom
12-07-2008, 08:32 PM
:cry::cry: So, so sorry tree, only just come online, im so sorry for the loss of Dusty and her babies, you did everything you could for those buns, Take care.
Deb.x

k.mdaniels
12-07-2008, 08:33 PM
Oh no! sorry
Thinking of you at this awful time.

CazScho
12-07-2008, 08:42 PM
Just caught up on this thread, am so sorry for Dusty and the babies. You did absolutely everything you could for them xxxxxx

janjan
12-07-2008, 08:47 PM
:( OMG, thats made me so sad.
Binky free Mommy and babies.
And a big [Hug] for Tree. You couldn't have done any more hun. :(

sue 1974
12-07-2008, 08:49 PM
just read all of this, so sorry for your loss. binky free Dusty and your babies

bunnymadhouse
12-07-2008, 08:50 PM
oh god ... i have just read through this thread and i just cant believe it took so long to get a vet to do something ...


im so very sorry .... you did all you could ....

sending hugs ...

sleep tight mummy and babies :(

Piggiesgalore
12-07-2008, 08:54 PM
Only just come on line and read this thread. I'm so sorry to hear you lost Dusty and the babies, what an awful day you've had. Binky free little ones.

Keyzzee
12-07-2008, 09:03 PM
Oh my gosh Tree, ive just read this thread and I feel desolate for you. I know its a small consolation, but Im sure that at the end she appreciated and was comforted that she had you fighting for her and caring for her and her babies, otherwise she would have been alone in an abandoned factory with no one watching over her, when this terrible thing happened.

Binky free dusty and babies. :cry:

hurricanhoney
12-07-2008, 09:08 PM
So very sorry. :(

luvabun
12-07-2008, 09:12 PM
Oh my gosh Tree, ive just read this thread and I feel desolate for you. I know its a small consolation, but Im sure that at the end she appreciated and was comforted that she had you fighting for her and caring for her and her babies, otherwise she would have been alone in an abandoned factory with no one watching over her, when this terrible thing happened.

Binky free dusty and babies. :cry:That sums it up so well... you did all you could Tree and made sure she felt love at the end....

Amy & Amber
12-07-2008, 09:27 PM
I have just came on hoping for good news, Tree I am SO sorry.

I know no words will make this better. But sometimes rabbits find a safe place to go to the bridge...

You have had some highs and lows today and I am sure that myself and everyone else here and at home are proud to know such a KIND,GENTLE,CARING,RESPECTFUL person you are not only to Dusty but to every other Bun you help through your life,

God Bless Dusty and her babies :cry:

Maizey
12-07-2008, 09:35 PM
Im so sorry por little Dusty.No one could have done more than you did for her.Please Tree try not to feel bad sending you a great big HUG

Hunnybunny2007
12-07-2008, 09:36 PM
So sorry to hear this:cry: Binky free with your babies:cry:

bunlover
12-07-2008, 09:39 PM
oh no :( gosh am so so sso sorry for you tree dont beat yourself up you did all you could xx

SmokyJoe78
12-07-2008, 09:39 PM
So sorry Tree - have been following your thread today hoping for the best, so heartbreaking for you - sending you vibes and hugs.

oscarbunny
12-07-2008, 09:40 PM
Tree i am so incredibly sorry, you did everything you could for this little bun and for that i am certain that she is grateful. Im so sorry that she couldnt be saved, binky free now dusty with your babies at the bridge xx :cry:


Tree, hugs to you hun. xx

clutterydrawer
12-07-2008, 09:44 PM
so sorry Tree :( She is with her little ones now though which I guess is where every new mum wants to be...and she knew that someone cared about her. xx

kayj
12-07-2008, 09:48 PM
I am so sorry Tree, At least this little girl as felt warmth, love and the utmost care that so many rabbits can only dream of. You really are a rescuer in a million. She is at peace now with her babies and she knows the fighting you have done for her today and she will love you forever for that.
Sending you a great big hugxx
Sleep tight Dusty and your babiesxxx

Ali
12-07-2008, 09:50 PM
I am so sorry ((((((((((hugs))))))))))

sally1974
12-07-2008, 09:51 PM
I am so sorry Tree:cry::cry:
Sallyx

raine
12-07-2008, 09:53 PM
I am so sorry. This is such sad news. Hope you are okayxx

SOAD
12-07-2008, 10:08 PM
Thank you so much your messages have really touched my heart and Jane the poem is beautiful it really made me cry :cry::cry::cry:

I am devastated, :cry::cry: why of why could I not find a vet to take me seriously today, why did it have to go passed the point of no return.

When we caught her I thought it was so much of a coincidence that I was off work on the day that the factory rang, I knew there was a chance she could be pregnant because of her tum and there were lots of wild rabbits by there.

I made the decision that because it was too much of a coincidence, that I thought I had got her for a reason and I thought that the reason was if she was pregnant, that it was to save her and her babies. I could of got her neutered to end a pregnancy on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, but I didn't I thought I had room, money to neuter and vac babies if she had any, not that I really thought there was any, but still didn;t want to take the chance and kill them.

I made the wrong decision, I hate myself, she's dead and I should of made decision to have her neutered being as I didn't know her history, but because I was sentimental and didn't like the idea of termination, I didn't do it when I should of ended any potential pregnancy and things might be different today. I wanted a happy ending, I had two choices and I made the wrong one and I can't go back and change it, I am responsible for her death.

Please don't be kind to me, because I don;t deserve it and I let her down :cry::cry:,

bunny mad lisa
12-07-2008, 10:14 PM
that is so sad:cry: tree you are a wonderful bunny mum for doing so much to help them..those vets let you down.
thinking of you

AlisonA
12-07-2008, 10:15 PM
Tree you did NOT let her down - life is full of 'what ifs' - you can't foresee the future so you make decisions based on what you know at any given time. We all do it, and we all kick ourselves from time to time. Please don't beat yourself up about this - you spent a day off from work trying to catch a stray rabbit, and subsequently fought to provide her with veterinary care. If that hadn't have happened, she would have died in an empty warehouse. As it happened, she died knowing that she was loved, having received veterinary attention and pain relief. Please try not to blame yourself for this - you're doing a great job and there would be a lot less happy healthy & well rehomed bunnies without you doing what you do.

charlie82
12-07-2008, 10:16 PM
My word I don't believe a word of that! You did not let her down at all. You gave her a wonderful few days knowing what care and love really is. If you hadn't have taken her in and did what you did today she would have undoubtedly died a painful death because what would have happened would have been inevitable. I see it as you giving her that chance of peace at the end and a dignified way to pass over to the bridge.

Please do not blame yourself. You did everything right by her.

xxxxxxxxxxxxx

oscarbunny
12-07-2008, 10:17 PM
Tree, do not for one second blame youself. You have been running around like a headless chicken all day trying to get someone to take you seriously. All you wanted was what was best for her and her babies. You did not make the wrong decision, you were not to know that she would abort the babies and become poorly. You did all you could, chin up xx

bunnyhuggger
12-07-2008, 10:27 PM
I'm so very sorry Tree :cry: :cry: :cry: I think everyone who has gone through the 'what ifs' will understand how you are feeling right now, myself included, it was these vets who didn't help who let you down, you did everything you possibly could to help her.

~ Binky free wee lass, take all our love to the spirit buns and extra special gentle nose rubs for your babies ~

SmokyJoe78
12-07-2008, 10:33 PM
My word I don't believe a word of that! You did not let her down at all. You gave her a wonderful few days knowing what care and love really is. If you hadn't have taken her in and did what you did today she would have undoubtedly died a painful death because what would have happened would have been inevitable. I see it as you giving her that chance of peace at the end and a dignified way to pass over to the bridge.

Please do not blame yourself. You did everything right by her.

xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Ditto - you have to make decisions on what you think is best at the time, please don't blame yourself, if you hadn't resuced her, she would have died alone at the factory. You helped her in her last few days.

Lindt bunny
12-07-2008, 10:47 PM
So sorry to find out what you have been through. You are not responsible as Dusty would have died alone without anyone trying to help her if it had not been for your determination to rescue her, bring her home and then find her treatment when you knew she wasn't right. You did your best but it was her time and she had to go to the bridge ... she has gone there now to join her babies after meeting a wonderful person like you.

Big hugs,

K x

Thea & Bobbin
12-07-2008, 11:00 PM
No Tree!! I'm so, so sorry :cry:

It's not your fault, you did everything right by her, you do not know that she would have made it had she been spayed earlier. You tried for her when no one else did, you cared and you pushed on to help her in her hour of need. That is all she would have wanted, someone that cared, someone that looked out for her. That someone was you :)

It really was meant to be that you found her, although it may not seem like it. She will have been peaceful when she passed, but not so had she been left in the factory. You did her proud :)

Binky free sweet girl, be with your babes at the bridge xxx

NitroNinja
12-07-2008, 11:05 PM
I think that you should get her to a vet or at least on the phone to ASAP

NitroNinja
12-07-2008, 11:08 PM
Oh I am so sorry for what happened and I should have read more than the first post. I am really sorry :cry:

Fairy13
12-07-2008, 11:40 PM
I'm so sorry Tree :cry: you did everything you could have done for her. And there are always what ifs. Hindsight is always 20/20 but you did what was right at the time. You did all you could for her. I'm so sorry she didnt make it through. Sending hugs x x

AnnaDelie
12-07-2008, 11:57 PM
So sorry to hear the bad news :(

Maizy
13-07-2008, 12:03 AM
So so sorry Dusty has gone.:( You spared her from what would have been an agonising death, you should be proud; especially when so many denied you help and you kept fighting for her. She has no more pain and is reunited with her kits. Binky free little ones.

Bunny Buddy
13-07-2008, 12:12 AM
Thank you so much your messages have really touched my heart and Jane the poem is beautiful it really made me cry :cry::cry::cry:

I am devastated, :cry::cry: why of why could I not find a vet to take me seriously today, why did it have to go passed the point of no return.

When we caught her I thought it was so much of a coincidence that I was off work on the day that the factory rang, I knew there was a chance she could be pregnant because of her tum and there were lots of wild rabbits by there.

I made the decision that because it was too much of a coincidence, that I thought I had got her for a reason and I thought that the reason was if she was pregnant, that it was to save her and her babies. I could of got her neutered to end a pregnancy on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, but I didn't I thought I had room, money to neuter and vac babies if she had any, not that I really thought there was any, but still didn;t want to take the chance and kill them.

I made the wrong decision, I hate myself, she's dead and I should of made decision to have her neutered being as I didn't know her history, but because I was sentimental and didn't like the idea of termination, I didn't do it when I should of ended any potential pregnancy and things might be different today. I wanted a happy ending, I had two choices and I made the wrong one and I can't go back and change it, I am responsible for her death.

Please don't be kind to me, because I don;t deserve it and I let her down :cry::cry:,

I'm by no means expert on this, just from a thread I've read on here but someone very knowledgeable (but I can't remember which 'wise old thumper' it was).... I don't think it is possible to do a spay so late in the pregnancy because there is too much blood circulating into the uterus and she probably would die from the operation - it would be far too risky. Like I say, I'm only repeating what I've read elsewhere but I think 100% you did absolutely everything in you power for both babies and Dusty and no-one could have done more. I think everyone who has posted on this thread is full of admiration for the amount of self-less effort you put into this rescue mission. Don't feel anything but pride for your actions. Hopefully when your less drained you will realise you couldn't have done more.

drpengie
13-07-2008, 12:31 AM
Oh Tree I have just seen this I am so sorry. Binky free Dusty & babies. I hope you are happy in rainbow bridge. Be at peace now x x x

Lucy
13-07-2008, 12:44 AM
Tree, when we had our pregnant buns in, at first the vet didn't know. He made an incision and a baby popped out of it still in the uterus. He stuffed it straight back in and stitched her back up. If he had tried to spay her at that point, not only would we have been aborting bunnies that were 1 day away from being born, but we could have killed her too. The uterus has a huge blood supply during pregnancy and to spay at that stage would have been a huge risk to all of them, more than likely resulting in death all round.

I would not have done things any differently to you, and I can only imagine your post is written in pure exhaustion. You have been through a lot this week and I think you need to have a good sleep and try to relax a little over the weekend.

You are not taking care of yourself, you're not eating properly and you are taking on too much. Please have a rest and then think about it again. You know you did everything right and you know you were the one that gave her a chance. Thats all we can do in rescue. We can't decide fate, we can only try our best and give them the chance to make it. You gave her that, but it just wasn't meant to be.

I wish I hadn't asked you to go to that woman tonight, I think it's something you could have really done without and I'm sorry about that. I hope you feel better about things tomorrow when you've had a rest.

Becca6
13-07-2008, 12:51 AM
So sorry. You did everything you could :cry: :cry:

Take care xx

purplebumble
13-07-2008, 01:00 AM
:no: DO NOT persecute yourself...we have all been at the only if stage one too many times....its terrible whats happened but shes with ehr babies and she had a clamer quieter death than the horrifiic seath awaiting her in the factory all alone and scared:(
she felt love shed not known and knew you were fighting for her and her babies...maybe its why she went she knew she had to..does that make sense?

if youd aborted then as has been said here already..the blood supply would have been too rich and shed have bled out anyway..
whichever way the poor darlings cards were marked.
bless you dusty and babies..the lesson this teaches us all..get a back up plan for a rabbit savvy vet when its out of hours etc:(

i think we all need to have a quiet chat with our vets and plan an emergency/out of hours/holidays/illness cover with another rabbit savvy vet in the practice let alone the branch office....

ive lost a bun through the vets not listening...it tore me apart and i even complained about her...they treated us like poop after that and i havent gone back as they said if i questioned a vet again i wouldnt be welcome as you should have absolute faith in the vet! ahem that was the pdsa and i do qualify for their care for 3 pets..but i ownt take any there..cant affford private but cant afford not to when it comes to bunnies.

i think the vets all need to do a mandatory seminar on bunnies for a few weeks! if hey could fit it in i kow but i mean the non rabbit savvy vets. then maybe heartbreak like this could be avoided but not all..some cases like poor dusty are a no win situation. tree she must have appreciated the love and care like none of us could imagine.....dont be so hard on yourself...xxx

rngpwelfare
13-07-2008, 01:05 AM
I'm so sorry Tree you did all that was in your power to help this little girl and her youngsters.

Please take some time out for yourself this weekend and get some rest and hopefully feel slightly better in the days to come.

Happy Hopping
13-07-2008, 05:30 AM
Tree, when we had our pregnant buns in, at first the vet didn't know. He made an incision and a baby popped out of it still in the uterus. He stuffed it straight back in and stitched her back up. If he had tried to spay her at that point, not only would we have been aborting bunnies that were 1 day away from being born, but we could have killed her too. The uterus has a huge blood supply during pregnancy and to spay at that stage would have been a huge risk to all of them, more than likely resulting in death all round.

I agree w/ Lucy. What if you did instruct the spay on Wed., and the above scenario that Lucy mentions happen? Then you would have said you should let the pregnancy continues. So it looks like neither way is good, and she could have passed away in either way.

Just like human, we have seen cases that both the human mother and child died due to scenarios like this. There is nothing you could have done to make it better.

So sorry that Dusty passed away.

Jack's-Jane
13-07-2008, 06:36 AM
Thank you so much your messages have really touched my heart and Jane the poem is beautiful it really made me cry :cry::cry::cry:

I am devastated, :cry::cry: why of why could I not find a vet to take me seriously today, why did it have to go passed the point of no return.

When we caught her I thought it was so much of a coincidence that I was off work on the day that the factory rang, I knew there was a chance she could be pregnant because of her tum and there were lots of wild rabbits by there.

I made the decision that because it was too much of a coincidence, that I thought I had got her for a reason and I thought that the reason was if she was pregnant, that it was to save her and her babies. I could of got her neutered to end a pregnancy on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, but I didn't I thought I had room, money to neuter and vac babies if she had any, not that I really thought there was any, but still didn;t want to take the chance and kill them.

I made the wrong decision, I hate myself, she's dead and I should of made decision to have her neutered being as I didn't know her history, but because I was sentimental and didn't like the idea of termination, I didn't do it when I should of ended any potential pregnancy and things might be different today. I wanted a happy ending, I had two choices and I made the wrong one and I can't go back and change it, I am responsible for her death.

Please don't be kind to me, because I don;t deserve it and I let her down :cry::cry:,

If you had had her spayed last week she would have haemorrhaged on the operating table and died along with her kits. The fact that she was bleeding yesterday indicated that all was not well and you took immediate action to get her Veterinary care. You were fobbed off and let down by Vets who, IMHO, appeared to have a severe case of 'its only a Rabbit Syndrome'...:evil: :cry:

If you feel able to and in Dusty's memory I would put a serious complaint in writing to all those who failed in their duty of care to both Dusty and you.
Its outrageous that some Vets appear so cavalier in their attitude to Rabbits and assume the Rabbit's carers are just being neurotic.

I cannot tell you how angry this episode has made me so goodness knows how you must feel. We all blame ourselves in situations like this but it is completely obvious to everyone reading this thread that you are most definately not to blame. Said blame sits firmly on the shoulders of the Vets who let you down.

Now dont keep beating yourself up over this but get a few letters of complaint off to the Muppet Vets and lets hope they learn from their mistakes.

Janex

kayjay
13-07-2008, 08:11 AM
I'm really sorry, Tree, and can only echo what everyone else has said above, if only we had a crystal ball to see outcomes in life....... but we don't and we have to make the best decisions we can without the benefit of foresight.

I do agree with Jane, it seems the vet had the 'it's only a rabbit' attitude - I wonder if it was a pedigree dog who'd been rushed in whether they'd have acted differently... I suspect they would. So in that case I agree with Jane to write a strong letter of complaint, when you feel able too.. (((hugs)))


Sleep tight Dusty and your babies :(

*lily*
13-07-2008, 08:14 AM
So very sorry :(

LuceMarbles
13-07-2008, 08:24 AM
:cry: So sorry too. Lots of vibes on their way to you. You made all the right decisions at the time, sometimes these things are out of our hands. She knew peace and love with you, if only for the few days she had left. :cry:

biscuitblossom
13-07-2008, 08:45 AM
If you had had her spayed last week she would have haemorrhaged on the operating table and died along with her kits. The fact that she was bleeding yesterday indicated that all was not well and you took immediate action to get her Veterinary care. You were fobbed off and let down by Vets who, IMHO, appeared to have a severe case of 'its only a Rabbit Syndrome'...:evil: :cry:

If you feel able to and in Dusty's memory I would put a serious complaint in writing to all those who failed in their duty of care to both Dusty and you.
Its outrageous that some Vets appear so cavalier in their attitude to Rabbits and assume the Rabbit's carers are just being neurotic.

I cannot tell you how angry this episode has made me so goodness knows how you must feel. We all blame ourselves in situations like this but it is completely obvious to everyone reading this thread that you are most definately not to blame. Said blame sits firmly on the shoulders of the Vets who let you down.

Now dont keep beating yourself up over this but get a few letters of complaint off to the Muppet Vets and lets hope they learn from their mistakes.

Janex


Eloquent as ever Jane....I only wish I could have said it so well....Tree you did everything you could for Dusty and you should be proud of yourself.

kayj
13-07-2008, 09:23 AM
Thank you so much your messages have really touched my heart and Jane the poem is beautiful it really made me cry :cry::cry::cry:

I am devastated, :cry::cry: why of why could I not find a vet to take me seriously today, why did it have to go passed the point of no return.

When we caught her I thought it was so much of a coincidence that I was off work on the day that the factory rang, I knew there was a chance she could be pregnant because of her tum and there were lots of wild rabbits by there.

I made the decision that because it was too much of a coincidence, that I thought I had got her for a reason and I thought that the reason was if she was pregnant, that it was to save her and her babies. I could of got her neutered to end a pregnancy on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, but I didn't I thought I had room, money to neuter and vac babies if she had any, not that I really thought there was any, but still didn;t want to take the chance and kill them.

I made the wrong decision, I hate myself, she's dead and I should of made decision to have her neutered being as I didn't know her history, but because I was sentimental and didn't like the idea of termination, I didn't do it when I should of ended any potential pregnancy and things might be different today. I wanted a happy ending, I had two choices and I made the wrong one and I can't go back and change it, I am responsible for her death.

Please don't be kind to me, because I don;t deserve it and I let her down :cry::cry:,

Tree, I would have done exactly the same in this situation. It is pretty obvious the reason was she came to you because she needed help, and she knew you were the best person to help her and her babies. The other thing is that she could have died in a hell of a lot of pain where she was so thanks to you she hasn't. You haven't let her down and remeber that.

CarmenCole
13-07-2008, 09:37 AM
Oh my goodness Tree! I haven't looked on the forum since yesterday afternoon, so I missed all this.

I am so so sorry to read about Dusty - I cant believe how ignorant some vets can be - like the 'demi-gods' I used to work for in human hospitals. :evil::evil:

You did everything in your power to help her and her babies. Don't beat yourself up - you are a truly wonderful person - you fight for so many little bunnies who can't fight for themselves. There is no way you can blame yourself for this.

******HUGS*****

Carm xxx

monkeypuzzler
13-07-2008, 09:44 AM
So sorry to hear this Tree, please, please don't beat yourself up over it. You were brilliant, you persevered with the vets, wouldn't take no for an answer and did everything in your power to get her the care she needed.

JoJoWoz
13-07-2008, 10:41 AM
OMG, I am so sorry Tree,
I am new to posting on this site but been reading the forums for a couple of months and i know what a wonderful person you are, please please try not to blame yourself, as many others have said you gave her a huge amount in those last few days of her life and at least she died with people around her who loved her not alone and in agony in that factory.
Thinking of you loads at this awful time.

Jo and Woz

vick
13-07-2008, 10:42 AM
I'm so sorry to hear this, but please please do not blame yourself Tree. You did your very best for your bunny. None of this is your fault. Some vets attitudes towards rabbits are just shocking.

Leanne
13-07-2008, 12:44 PM
I totally echo what everyone else has said and you are NOT to blame for what happened at all.
You made the right decision, albeit one that didn't have a happy outcome, you did EVERYTHING you could for the little bun and its just one of those things :(

Im so sorry she didn't make it, she had all the care possible to get her through but nature just didn't let her and intervention couldn't help either :(

Remember that she was given a chance by you and she would have died in a much more stressful way had she not been taken in by you xxx

Hunnybunny2007
13-07-2008, 12:52 PM
Tree, please don't blame yourself, you did all you could and more. We all have "what if" decisions to make, and I think you made the right one, you were willing to look after any babies she had and you would have made sure they had homes to go to, if you had taken her for a spay you would have beat yourself up thinking about that. IF you hadn't had the phone call telling you about her, she may have died in the factory yard, totally unloved and cared for. You did your best, you gave her a chance, and you showed her love and care. Please, please don't blame yourself.
Also like Jane said I would complain about the vet, so no one else has to go through something like this, some vets have poor attitudes towards rabbits.
Hugs to you
Sue x

Bunnyaddict
13-07-2008, 12:59 PM
Oh Tree, have just read all this thread & I am so sorry for your loss & what you, Dusty & her babies have been through. Please, please don't be hard on yourself over this, you did everything you possibly could have done for this beautiful little girl - without you, she wouldn't have had any chance at all. I hope you can find some comfort in that you gave her a few days where she knew love, warmth & affection - what everybun should have. Sending you loads of hugs, take care of yourself, binky free Dusty & your babies at the bridge xx

XMissySJx
13-07-2008, 01:07 PM
i agree, if i was in your shoes i would have done the same as you. you are not to blame for any of this, sometimes things arent meant to be, and unfortunatly this was thec case for dusty and her babies. maybe she meant to be with them at the bridge, you dont know what would have happened if she went for a spay, and we all make what if situations up in our heads if something bad happens but....the truth is tree, you gave her a loving home, and i echo 100% what EVERYONE else has said....at least she didnt die alone in a factory.

xxxxx

FriskyClover
13-07-2008, 01:13 PM
I'm so sorry to hear she didn't make it.

Hugs

FC xx

vicky206
13-07-2008, 01:45 PM
so sorry :cry: you did the most amazing job trying to help her though x

loopylop
13-07-2008, 02:09 PM
I am so sorry Tree, I have only just seen this :cry: :cry: :cry:

She was so lucky to have you on her side and you did everything you could for her.

Binky free Dusty, You can be with your babies now :cry:

ecudc
13-07-2008, 04:08 PM
so sorry tree. binky free dusty and kits.

Jazzy B Bunny
13-07-2008, 04:42 PM
Binky free... It's not your fault you did everything you could. xx

yvette
13-07-2008, 04:54 PM
Im so sorry.For all that you and Dusty went through for it to end in tears.And mine aswell.God bless.xx

SOAD
13-07-2008, 04:59 PM
Thanks so much, I am feeling a bit better today. Have spend most of the day playing with the bunsters and gave my bedroom a well overdue clean (well if you can call hiding things in draws a clean :oops:), I went and paid the bill which was shocking high considering all I got was a dead bunny :cry:

I feel better knowing that the outcome may of been the same had I of had her spayed last week, I have done some soul searching and decided I probably couldn't of done that even if it wasn't dangerous. I did consider it last week, I remember that there was one forum member that had an emergency spay the day before kits were due to be born, not that I think there is anything wrong with that, but personally I couldn't do that, so really even if it had of been an option I wouldn't of done it, I would of rather kits have been born, so no point in blaming myself really.

It is always so much sadder when you lose a rescue bunny, not saying I would rather lose one of my own, I don't like losing any bunny. When it's my own I am more upset for me, unless of course they die in a way that causes them pain, but my bunnies never want for anything, they don't ever feel hunger, boredom, or lack love or company. When it's a rescue bunny it's before they get the opportunity to feel like a proper loved pet and have a home of their own, where they're adored. I did love Dusty as I do all the rescues, but it's never going to be the same as having years at a home with a bunny partner being spoilt as bunnies should be.

I finally felt up to reading the rest of the thread and you guys are totally amazing and thank you so much for being there for me, yesterday was so stressful and it was God send that I was able to use you all as an outlet and have advice :love:.

I was talking to my lodger earlier and he made me see that I shouldn't feel guilty, I did do everything I could of done, it was just unfortunate it wasn't good enough, but I know I couldn't of done more, but it doesn't stop me feeling sad about it all. Bryn has cleaned down her hutch for me, so it didn't upset me again, but I am gutted, I actually physically feel like I have been kicked in the stomach if I think about it.

Lucy you did me a favour, please don't feel guilty, at least it kept me busy for a few hours last night and stopped me moping about.

I have a few pm's I'm not being ignorant, just a bit tearful still so been avoiding starting myself off again, will read them when I can do it without :cry:.

I will complain to the vets, should I complain to all the one's I contacted, there were loads I was just going down the list on yell.

I have a potential adopter popping over in a bit to see the buns, so after she's been and gone I am going to put my pj's on and watch a couple of films, lose myself if some dross I think.

JellyBelly
13-07-2008, 05:02 PM
Aww Tree i'm sorry that you feel bad :cry:

Your one of the good ones x

Lucy
13-07-2008, 05:05 PM
Good for you, if both of my pj's weren't ripped I would join you :lol::lol:

nikitanain
13-07-2008, 05:31 PM
i am so sorry for ur loss... u did all u could, sometimes god has weird ways... we must just accept them... please dont feel bad.. u are a very good mum :)

Inimical Me
13-07-2008, 06:11 PM
Awwww I'm sorry I missed this thread... Tree I think you're ace, the lengths you went to to save this rabbit are far and beyond what even a vet can be bothered with :evil::evil::evil:, and they're supposed to be in the field because they love (or surely at least like...) animals, and you have no reason to blame yourself. You did everything you could, I'm really, really sorry she didn't make it :(.

I agree with Tree, I'd be making all of the vets you contacted well aware of exactly what happened in the form of a nice, big complaint :evil:.

sdf76
13-07-2008, 06:11 PM
What sad news.:cry: You definately did the right thing in saving her from being alone through what would have been an awful time for her.

Binky free Dusty and little babies,and big hugs for you Tree, for all you have been through -Suex

marie_kubiak
13-07-2008, 07:41 PM
I'm so sorry for you, factory bun and the babies :(
If you complain to the vets, do it in writing and maybe get your lodger or someone else to actually write the letter (when I get upset I end up being incapable of being concise and literate and just end up with long circular rants!). Get everything down as simply as possible - a brief outline of the original situation, the response from the vet/nurse/receptionist, with names if possible, your concern over how it was handled and the outcome. Vets have a responsibility to provide 24hr care for any species, if they are not happy treating a situation in a rabbit they can refer on or provide basic emergency care. It may not help you now but if you can get the vets a little bit more aware or find a vet who is confident with rabbits out of hours then if something happens to another bunny it may be a better outcome.

Madmoo
13-07-2008, 07:52 PM
Only just logged on and caught up with this thread. So sorry. Poor you, poor bun and poor babies.

Thankfully she had a couple of days being looked after properly by you and shown love and care.

Becky's Bunnies
13-07-2008, 07:58 PM
been readin this thread from the start, i so wanted her to be ok.
im really sorry for your loss.
all my thoughts and hugs.
x

unalakey
13-07-2008, 08:37 PM
So sorryxxx You did everything you possibly could, sending big hugs xxx

sarahmussell
13-07-2008, 08:39 PM
When my bunny had babies 3 years ago there was a little fresh red blood in her hutch when she gave birth.

sarahmussell
13-07-2008, 08:48 PM
I am so sorry posted the last reply without catching up first. Poor Dusty she has gone to look after her babies. So so sorry

rachelsawyer
13-07-2008, 09:19 PM
So sorry Soad thinking of you. Binky free Dusty and your babies:cry::cry::cry:

SOAD
14-07-2008, 09:43 AM
Thanks guys, ended up crying to a Slipknot song on the way into work, what a plank :oops:, the words were sad though, I guess I'm the only person that can cry to slipknot though :oops:

I am going to type up some letters in a bit, will get Bryn and my lodger to do the same, it's not going to bring her back, but I will feel better for putting it on paper.

Jack's-Jane
14-07-2008, 09:49 AM
Thanks guys, ended up crying to a Slipknot song on the way into work, what a plank :oops:, the words were sad though, I guess I'm the only person that can cry to slipknot though :oops:

I am going to type up some letters in a bit, will get Bryn and my lodger to do the same, it's not going to bring her back, but I will feel better for putting it on paper.


Awwww Tree I hope that getting those letters off will help. Of course it wont bring Dusty and her kits back but it might just make the Vets who failed all of you do things differently next time.

Janex

SarahP
14-07-2008, 10:00 AM
I've only just read this thread. I'm so sorry. :cry:

SOAD
14-07-2008, 10:08 AM
Thanks Sarah, yeah Jane this is what I'm hoping. The one vet I rang is a really good vets and I more than a little shocked that they wouldn't help. Although my mate uses them and she's always said if it's this certian vet on then refuse to see him and ask for one of the others, it was that vet on, on Saturday :roll:. He did speak to me on the phone, but wouldn't let me go in and he kept saying to me it would be just red urine, I know the differnece between urine and blood, he said if I was still worried he would make an appointment for me on Sunday, but coldn't see me Saturday. I know one of the vets live above the practice (a fairly good one) I was tempted to drive there and bang on his door, but Ithought they would probably report me to the police.

This is the song, how sad are these words, I am sure they're about a girl not a bunny :oops:


She seemed dressed in all of me,
stretched across my shame.
All the torments and the pain,
leak through and covered me.
I'd do anything to have her to myself,
just to have her for myself.
Now I don't know what to do,
I don't know what to do
When she makes me sad.

She is everything to me, the unrequited dream,
the song that no one sings, the unattainable.
She's a myth that I have to believe in,
all I need to make it real is one more reason.

I don't know what to do,
I don't know what to do
When she makes me sad.

But I won't let this build up inside of me,
I won't let this build up inside of me,
I won't let this build up inside of me,
I won't let this build up inside of me.

A catch in my throat,
Choke,
Torn into pieces,
I won't,
no,
I don't want to be this,
But I won't let this build up inside of me,
I won't let this build up inside of me,
I won't let this build up inside of me,
I won't let this build up inside of me.

She isn't real,
I can't make her real.
She isn't real,
I can't make her real.

Estelle
14-07-2008, 10:48 AM
:cry: I'm really sorry.

Hugo's There
14-07-2008, 10:52 AM
Sorry I have not posted earlier Tree, I am so sorry you lost Dusty ,you tried so hard for her.

It might not feel like it at the moment but you do an amazing job with the bunnies, and you gave Dusty a chance that she wouldn't have had if you hadn't taken the time to find her.

Hugs to you xx

Thea & Bobbin
14-07-2008, 10:54 AM
Awwww Tree, I can see why those lyrics touched you :cry: Big hugs xxx

bunbuns
14-07-2008, 02:08 PM
I've only just seen this thread. I just sat and read all 21 pages and i'm so sorry. :cry::cry: I'm sorry that you lost Dusty and her kits and i'm sorry than most of the vets didn't even want to help you.

I agree with Jane, you should write letters of complaint. Its not like they don't charge through the roof for emergencys is it :roll:

Binky free Dusty with your babies and well done Tree for all you did for them. xxxx