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Samantha
26-06-2008, 02:44 PM
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raine
26-06-2008, 02:52 PM
Mine are free range in the house, but Im a wimp for the garden. They are free range when we are out there only. I know lots of people whose bunnies are outside all day and to date are fine, but I would hate a fox to come and take one and, because its possible, I don't do it. I know the bunnies would love to be out there all day and you probably have more chance of winning the lottery, than a fox coming during the day and killing one, but Im too scared.

MaxiandScottandbuns
26-06-2008, 02:56 PM
Our Luna is free range in the house, although unfortunately cant go in our yard as we have other buns out there. Im not sure id keep her free range outdoors unless i could watch constantly because there are quite a few foxes and wild bunnies in the area

Having Luna free range indoors is amazing, shes loads better company than a cat or dog if you ask me! And no trouble at all:)

:wave:

Samantha
26-06-2008, 02:56 PM
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MaxiandScottandbuns
26-06-2008, 02:59 PM
Can you not have him free indoors then let him out in the garden on nice days and when youre about to supervise?

If it was me id get him a large run if not, just incase, to be honest. Hell still be free the majority of the time and when indoors

Samantha
26-06-2008, 02:59 PM
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FriskyClover
26-06-2008, 03:00 PM
Exactly. It's the fear of it happening playing on my mind. He loves it outside as well as inside but when he's out there I'm just so nervous, back and forth to the door looking out for him. I really don't want to stop him being free range outside as he loves it so much, I don't know what to do.

I'd love to let mine wander around the garden but I have a large mature garden that has just too many hiding places! I have two large metal panel runs so that I can let them out in a large area but they are contained and easy to keep an eye on.

Samantha
26-06-2008, 03:00 PM
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clairescanvas
26-06-2008, 03:08 PM
I know its discusting but foxes hate male urine...so get your partner, brother or dad to wee around your garden and your have no worry of foxes lol!

however your rabbit could have the run of the garden of the day and just lock it up securely at night. Foxes start coming out at twilight but generally dont enter a garden looking for food until night when nobody is about.

clairescanvas
26-06-2008, 03:10 PM
you need to alos consider are all your plants safe for your rabbit as they will try to eat whatever they can. Some garden plants are actually quite toxic!

Samantha
26-06-2008, 03:11 PM
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Samantha
26-06-2008, 03:12 PM
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clairescanvas
26-06-2008, 03:22 PM
The urban fox comes out very late at night where as in the country they come out earlier but they never hunt in the daytime.

They are generally only active 8 hours a day and this will be at dusk.

what i would suggest is just dont let them your bunnies have the run of the garden when your not home just in case.

clairescanvas
26-06-2008, 03:23 PM
We don't have any garden plants, just the odd weed that pops up :oops: which I know is safe (dandelions)

Rabbits love dandelions :)

iandb
26-06-2008, 03:37 PM
Ours are when we are at home.

They live and have free run in the Kitchen and when it's nice and sunny ( or just not raining) we just open the back door and they hop in and out as and when they like :)

Samantha
26-06-2008, 03:37 PM
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chloaster
26-06-2008, 03:38 PM
Mine are free range - for me I weigh up the pros and cons of a maybe shorter free life compared to that of a potentially longer confined life and there's just no way, after seeing them run the length of the garden, I could confine them again to a 6ft run.

Samantha
26-06-2008, 03:40 PM
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chloaster
26-06-2008, 03:41 PM
That's exactly it, after seeing them enjoying it so much free range how can you then stop them? Won't have to now I know a fox won't come in during daylight hours :D

Don't you believe it! I've seen foxes out and about during the day there is no way you can guarantee they wouldn't come calling in daylight hours.

ETA - http://www.rabbitrehome.org.uk/care/rabbit_foxes.asp This is on the front RR page!

raine
26-06-2008, 03:51 PM
One entered Jane's window in daylight and killed one of her rabbits so they are about and hunting.

Samantha
26-06-2008, 03:51 PM
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Samantha
26-06-2008, 03:52 PM
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Samantha
26-06-2008, 04:01 PM
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coco1200
26-06-2008, 04:05 PM
mine are free range in the garden during day light hours, probably from 8am-10pm. they have the whole garden, and i couldnt give them anything less. i feel its the closest thing for their 'natural habitat' and it gives them space to run about! they always get locked up at night, and they go in a 14X4ft enclosure/run, which is fox proof :wave:

Stator
26-06-2008, 04:12 PM
It's horrible to think but a fox could probably get into your garden, grab your bunny and disappear again before you can do anything. I wouldn't let them free unless I am sitting right there with them.

clutterydrawer
26-06-2008, 04:17 PM
some people leave their buns free range but I wouldnt risk it myself - you would only need to be away for 5 minutes and a fox could take him. if you got a run, he could exercise safely in the day and have some free range time when youre there to watch him :)

your choice though - i am a bit paranoid i think so I like to take all possible precautions. :lol:

kimd6200
26-06-2008, 04:28 PM
bluebell is free range everyday unless its raining cuz she doesnt like rain!:lol:she hates cats and charges at them if they come in garden so i dont worry to much.just keep checking on her every 30 mins or so.x

lil860
26-06-2008, 04:50 PM
I let my bunny Louie have free range of the garden for about 30 mins supervised he loves it. I open his cage door and he comes out himself sometimes he even goes back in when hes had enough. Other times i have to catch him at least it keeps me fit. I dont like the thought of him being confined in a run i like him to stretch his legs.

Leanne
26-06-2008, 04:56 PM
Mine are free range in the garden from between 7/8 am until dusk all year round, always have been.

I have a dog and cats though (neighbours have a dog and 4 cats too) which I think help deter foxes if there were to be any about.

Ive lived in several houses with no problems so far.

If you know foxes are about in the day though I would invest in a huge secure run :D

Samantha
26-06-2008, 05:01 PM
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Maizey
26-06-2008, 05:02 PM
Hi mine are free range but I try not to be out of the house for more than a couple of hours at a time.Foxes only seem to come in the middle of the night but I think all the urban foxes have been culled in our area as I havent seen one for over a year.We have just had security cameras put up and can play what has happened the night before so if Charlie snide comes back Ill know very quickly.

kayjay
26-06-2008, 05:13 PM
Mine are free range - for me I weigh up the pros and cons of a maybe shorter free life compared to that of a potentially longer confined life and there's just no way, after seeing them run the length of the garden, I could confine them again to a 6ft run.

This is how I think, and agree with, however... I've not been brave enough to try it as we live backing onto fields and there are bound to be foxes around, although I've never seen one. I wonder if foxes are more likely to attack domestic rabbits in an urban situation where there is less 'food' available rather than a rural fox who has lots of wild rabbits to hunt.... I have never seen a fox where I live so I am tempted to give MJ and Opal more space however they have a 6x4 run and sleep all day anyway :roll::lol:

Maizey
26-06-2008, 05:46 PM
This is how I think, and agree with, however... I've not been brave enough to try it as we live backing onto fields and there are bound to be foxes around, although I've never seen one. I wonder if foxes are more likely to attack domestic rabbits in an urban situation where there is less 'food' available rather than a rural fox who has lots of wild rabbits to hunt.... I have never seen a fox where I live so I am tempted to give MJ and Opal more space however they have a 6x4 run and sleep all day anyway :roll::lol:

The fox will go for the easiest option when prey is involved.They also have young at the mo.If you know the farmer who owns the fields behind you it might be worth asking if they cull foxes.

clairescanvas
27-06-2008, 09:47 AM
yes Foxes def will go for the easiest option most domestic rabbits dont even run from foxes as they do not see them as prey.

My parents were looking after Norris one night and forgot to bring him in, a fox got him! Luckily my mums dog must have heard him and started barking frantically at the door to be let out! my mum let him out and to her horror watched him chase as fox out of the garden. Norris was hiding behind a flower pot he had no hair on his bottom where the fox had tried to grab hold of him and ripped it out. He was very sore but very lucky not to have a worse injury.

Norris still walks up to anything that comes near him, he is blind just to make matters worse he prob went up to the fox looking for a hug.

If Norris goes out i always make sure i bring him in in way before its dark.

Crystal butterfly
27-06-2008, 09:56 AM
i always have 2 of my buns free range in the garden everyday but have had to stop that at the moment because Misty has some how found how to get into next doors garden :shock: so need to look into that before letting them free range again unless im 100% supervising of course

clairescanvas
27-06-2008, 10:42 AM
Don't you believe it! I've seen foxes out and about during the day there is no way you can guarantee they wouldn't come calling in daylight hours.

ETA - http://www.rabbitrehome.org.uk/care/rabbit_foxes.asp This is on the front RR page!

after Norris' scare i researched Foxes and its very unlikely that they come out in the day unless ill or with demanding litter. The safest thing to do is just never let them out when your not home watching them...obviously if your near a field or woods then i would not risk it.

clairescanvas
27-06-2008, 10:49 AM
oh also if you have seen them out and about during the day then dont let them out but thats just common sense. If you have not seen foxes in your area than the risk is very small, but research Foxes behaviour for yourself it may put your mind at ease :D

Theres nothing nicer then seeing your rabbits running around freely and playing in the garden.

Azraelm
27-06-2008, 11:07 AM
oh also if you have seen them out and about during the day then dont let them out but thats just common sense. If you have not seen foxes in your area than the risk is very small, but research Foxes behaviour for yourself it may put your mind at ease :D

Theres nothing nicer then seeing your rabbits running around freely and playing in the garden.

I didn't think I had foxes and then one morning I woke to find both my rabbits dead as it had pulled the run away from their playhouse and killed them :cry:
My niavety caused their deaths.

After that I was more aware of them and saw the foxes often. They came into my garden at all times of the day- morning, afternoon, evening, night, I saw them all the time.

That's not to say that I am against letting rabbits run free range- I think the benefit probably outweighs the risk, just don't EVER assume that there aren't foxes in your area...if you let them out free range, then accept that this puts them in danger.

Samantha
27-06-2008, 11:16 AM
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Stator
27-06-2008, 11:54 AM
Foxes are adapting to urban living. They can be out at any time of the day and will eat whenever they get the chance.

Even if you haven't seen one, there probably is a fox living within a mile or two of your home and it's only a matter of time before one comes through your garden.

Kylie541
27-06-2008, 12:14 PM
I have a house bun and he never goes free range in the garden but we live in the countryside so it's different. Personally I wouldn't be brave enough. What about cats???? Ours are maine coons and are big enough to injure a large rabbit:?

Leanne
27-06-2008, 12:42 PM
I used to have 4 cats (only 2 now since the oldies passed away), my neighbour has 4 and we have about 7 (I think)that regularly drop by and none hassle the buns :D
My two are regular 2kg sized buns and they chase strange cats off the lawn :lol:

Kylie541
27-06-2008, 12:51 PM
Well my cats are 7 and 8 kg's in weight they don't bother with Buster but they have brought quite large wild bunnies back before we got Buster though. This is one reason he is a house bunny.

Tinsel
27-06-2008, 01:23 PM
I live in the country and the garden backs onto fields, but the fields have horses in them and we have never seen evidence of a single fox in fifteen years, either in the garden or in the neighbouring fields. The people a couple of doors down keep hens and a (vocal) cockerel and have never had any evidence of foxes either. Having said that, I wouldn't leave the buns unsupervised, but certainly they adore being free-range during most of the day, and there is loads of cover for them to dive into too. I find they behave in a much more "wild bunny" way, gathering in a feeding group in the evenings etc and sleeping in the shade of various bushes during the day.

It's a horrible dilemma. Talking with your neighbours about fox sightings may be useful if you haven't done so already...

luvabun
27-06-2008, 02:04 PM
I think I'm going to carry on letting him go free range as he will be a big boy when fully grown and I don't think it'll be fair to not let him go free range. I will only let him out in day light hours when I'm home and can keep checking on him.:wave: I also let mine out free range and as others have said, there's no finer sight than watching bunnies just doing what comes natural when they're loose. However, I make sure I supervise them at all times as my friends bun had its head bitten off by a fox when she went in the house for 5 minutes to make a cuppa :(