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Siona
21-04-2008, 10:30 AM
I searched on the net and so far all I could find was a passage from a book called "Rabbit Health in the 21st Century" but I couldn't copy and paste it because it was a PDF.

Here is the link to the page (pg 46) - http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=3Gz-NTF8wdQC&pg=PA46&lpg=PA46&dq=cowpile+syndrome+rabbit&source=web&ots=fsOqyU-WF0&sig=sc4CCuZBSRtsaPvIZGUHSsDUdTs&hl=en#PPA46,M1

I'll keep looking, but if anyone else has anymore info please post on here, particularly regarding extra susceptability to flystrike.

Thankyou! :wave:

abbymarysmokey
21-04-2008, 12:11 PM
I did have lots of stuff on megcolon stored on my old PC, but forgot to transfer it over when I got a new one :(

There's this from medirabbit:

http://www.medirabbit.com/EN/GI_diseases/Mechanical_diseases/megacolon.pdf

I've heard that albino rabbits can also be affected if they carry the spotted gene.

Medirabbit also has a list of differential diagnosis for the condition:

http://www.medirabbit.com/EN/GI_diseases/Differential/mega_differential.htm

Jack's-Jane
21-04-2008, 12:26 PM
http://www.medirabbit.com/EN/GI_diseases/Differential/mega_differential.htm

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8822192?dopt=Abstract

From 'Notes on Rabbit Internal Medicine' :

Whilst the caecum is the usual site of impactation, megacolon, a condition where the colon is full of chronically accumulated faeces in large clumps, has been reported.

The cause of this condition is not known, but it may affect white Rabbits with dark ears and spots disproportionately commonly

This megacolon syndrome, described in homozygous spotted Rabbits, results in caecal obstipation, but there is uncertainty whether this is a true dysautonomia.

Dysautonomia- Similar to grass sickness in horses. Other autonomic signs eg mydriasis, reduced tear production and salivation. Diagnosed at histopathology after Post Mortem.

Janex :)

MaxiandScottandbuns
21-04-2008, 12:37 PM
Thank you so much for this info guys...ive been searching too but its so hard to find any decent information. Earl is obviously that colouring and his poo's have been covered in mucous since he arrived. Hes also underweight and often produces this runny stuff too. Weve been so concerned but the vet cant find any problems at all...this is definitely something to consider seriously and talk to him about

Ill post if i find anything

Jack's-Jane
21-04-2008, 12:40 PM
Thank you so much for this info guys...ive been searching too but its so hard to find any decent information. Earl is obviously that colouring and his poo's have been covered in mucous since he arrived. Hes also underweight and often produces this runny stuff too. Weve been so concerned but the vet cant find any problems at all...this is definitely something to consider seriously and talk to him about

Ill post if i find anything

Harry responded well to SALAZOPYRIN at a dose of 10-15mg/kg twice daily. He too had symptoms similar to what Earl's sound like

Janex

Siona
21-04-2008, 12:49 PM
I'm so worried. :( What I thought was a slow gut caused by a bout of stasis is this disease it seems. I always knew Dougal had a funny digestion and he gets tummy aches, I keep a close eye to make sure he doesn't go into stasis, I catch it before it does. *touch wood*
I guess that's one of the problems with rescue buns, you can't know their histories :(

But now with summer coming and him doing these sticky poos I worry he's at greater risk from fly strike. :(:( The huge poos are ok, but he does really sloppy ones too.

I wonder how many other people on this forum have buns that fit this description...... :(:(

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh113/Redheadedbint/DSCN1102-1.jpg

MaxiandScottandbuns
21-04-2008, 01:15 PM
Oh Siona, im so sorry about Dougal:( My thoughts are with him, i do hope him and Earl will be ok...I wonder how many others there are too...Id never heard of this before until a few days ago, i bet others havent either

It makes me angry bunnies of this colouration are still being produced to be totally honest

Dougals a little beauty btw

MaxiandScottandbuns
21-04-2008, 01:17 PM
Harry responded well to SALAZOPYRIN at a dose of 10-15mg/kg twice daily. He too had symptoms similar to what Earl's sound like

Janex


Thanx Jane, ill bring it up at the vets:wave:

Siona
21-04-2008, 01:33 PM
Harry responded well to SALAZOPYRIN at a dose of 10-15mg/kg twice daily. He too had symptoms similar to what Earl's sound like

Janex

Thanks for that, I'll bring it up with my vet too. :)

Maxi, I hope Earl will be ok too, it's hard to know what treatments are available when there are so few bits of info. :(

MaxiandScottandbuns
22-04-2008, 06:59 PM
Earl is very bad today:( Its so difficult to know what to do...he is the most perfect house bunny ever, much better behaved indoors than our other buns...but these poo's, theyre everywhere, and theres runny diarrhoea everywhere which smells and its just not hygienic:( I refuse to put him outside though (i really want to keep a cloe eye on him as much as possible) but its very difficult to live with at the moment...guess i just needed to vent and check no-one has anymore info at all...I really hope we can fix this so its more manageable...poor, poor fellow:(

Tamsin
22-04-2008, 07:19 PM
Re the flystrike issue. For rabbits that are at risk you can treat with special stuff that stops any fly eggs developing to the dangerous stage. The name escapes me at the moment but I'm sure someone will know. It's a prescription only medicines you get from the vets.

Tam

Jack's-Jane
22-04-2008, 07:22 PM
Earl is very bad today:( Its so difficult to know what to do...he is the most perfect house bunny ever, much better behaved indoors than our other buns...but these poo's, theyre everywhere, and theres runny diarrhoea everywhere which smells and its just not hygienic:( I refuse to put him outside though (i really want to keep a cloe eye on him as much as possible) but its very difficult to live with at the moment...guess i just needed to vent and check no-one has anymore info at all...I really hope we can fix this so its more manageable...poor, poor fellow:(


Has your Vet sent a poo sample off for analysis?
Have you spoken to Vet about the Salazopyrin?

Janex

Jack's-Jane
22-04-2008, 07:24 PM
Re the flystrike issue. For rabbits that are at risk you can treat with special stuff that stops any fly eggs developing to the dangerous stage. The name escapes me at the moment but I'm sure someone will know. It's a prescription only medicines you get from the vets.

Tam

Rearguard :?

http://www.vetscriptions.co.uk/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=1&Product_Code=REARG25&Category_Code=

Janex

Siona
22-04-2008, 07:33 PM
Which kinds of flies cause flystrike?
Despite rigorous cleaning there are tons round the run but only one or two big ones like blue or green bottles, and definitely only saw one blowfly (big black one) Most are the little skinny ones that irritate horses in the summer, they were everywhere and seemed really dozey.
Dougal also seemed to be attracting thunder bugs today, his fur was covered in them. :roll:

Tamsin
22-04-2008, 07:37 PM
Rearguard :?

http://www.vetscriptions.co.uk/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=1&Product_Code=REARG25&Category_Code=

Janex

Yep, that's the one :D

Siona
22-04-2008, 07:37 PM
Earl is very bad today:( Its so difficult to know what to do...he is the most perfect house bunny ever, much better behaved indoors than our other buns...but these poo's, theyre everywhere, and theres runny diarrhoea everywhere which smells and its just not hygienic:( I refuse to put him outside though (i really want to keep a cloe eye on him as much as possible) but its very difficult to live with at the moment...guess i just needed to vent and check no-one has anymore info at all...I really hope we can fix this so its more manageable...poor, poor fellow:(

Aww, so sorry :( I hope he gets better soon.

Jack's-Jane
22-04-2008, 07:44 PM
Which kinds of flies cause flystrike?
Despite rigorous cleaning there are tons round the run but only one or two big ones like blue or green bottles, and definitely only saw one blowfly (big black one) Most are the little skinny ones that irritate horses in the summer, they were everywhere and seemed really dozey.
Dougal also seemed to be attracting thunder bugs today, his fur was covered in them. :roll:

http://www.galensgarden.co.uk/herbivores/health/flystrike.php

Janex :)

Siona
22-04-2008, 07:55 PM
http://www.galensgarden.co.uk/herbivores/health/flystrike.php

Janex :)

Cool, thanks :)

Steph
22-04-2008, 09:15 PM
Reading this Im sure Lenny who came in as a foster bunny has this :( Some days he is fine and others he passes soft sausage shaped poops and some more soft. He eats loads of hay :) We have decided to keep him and he now runs round the house at his leisure. Ill shall mention this to my vets. Thanks for the info :D

abbymarysmokey
22-04-2008, 10:44 PM
I seem to remember that megacolon is something that can be diagnosed by x-ray, because the guts become distended and sausage-like...although I'm sure there are other illnesses that probably have the same effect on the guts.

halfpenny
22-04-2008, 11:00 PM
Daisy,the second rabbit we had was an english and she never produced normal poohs, we go her from a pet shop at about 8 weeks. We assumed these were normal for a young rabbit- she came to partner Benji, our wild rabbit and I just thought he was different as he was wild. Anyway she had a severe dose of diarrhoea and died,we got a post motrem done and she had clostridium in her liver, which was said to have caused her death. I know cats and dogs get an illness like grass sickness in horses and clostridium has also been suspected in this. The big problem is it could be caused by a number of things, certainly they have been trying to figure out what causes grass sickness in horses for years, clostriduim, cyanide from clovers, selenium deficiency and the affect of drought and temperature on the grass has all been suspected. This doesn't really help but it may give you some ideas to work on.

Siona
23-05-2008, 08:39 PM
Poopy update! here is a pic of a nomal poo, and a sausage poo.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh113/Redheadedbint/DSCN1232-1.jpg