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Siona
08-04-2008, 11:38 PM
Chudleigh (ARC bun) - now Gladys, is here! :D

It seemed to be love at first sight between her and Nigel when they met, she went straight up and put her head under his chin and laid down :love: he laid down too and they sat together for ages and then she started licking his ear and she made it all wet!

THe journey home was very quiet, at one point I did wonder whether they were still alive! :shock:
Now They are in the front room in a 6x2 run. They ran round for about 5 minutes and pulled fur (scary looking during moulting!:shock:) before stopping.

I scattered pellets all over the floor and they are both eating and nibbling hay, interspersed with occasional getting up, grunting at each other, stamping, moving somewhere else in the run , then sitting down and carrying on munching.

How does this sound so far?

Oh, and she's beautiful :love: :love:

will post pics when she's settled :)

Bavarian Bunny
09-04-2008, 12:24 AM
Sounds good so far. Glad you could get transport sorted and looking forward to seeing some photos. :D

Lauralou
09-04-2008, 12:47 AM
ahh, sounds like it's going well!

March Hare
09-04-2008, 12:53 AM
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!! :D

It sounds like Gladys and Nigel are going to be fine! And I can't WAIT to see pics too!!!!! :D :D

janice
09-04-2008, 01:06 AM
Sounds good to me, I am not sure what equipment you have got out just in case, if you havent put anything out please do put a couple of strong brooms out that you could use to help separate them if need be.

I would not like to have to use my hands to separate normal sized rabbits let alone a larger one ;)

Siona
09-04-2008, 01:29 AM
Sounds good to me, I am not sure what equipment you have got out just in case, if you havent put anything out please do put a couple of strong brooms out that you could use to help separate them if need be.

I would not like to have to use my hands to separate normal sized rabbits let alone a larger one ;)

I've had to seperate Nigel in a fight before. I use the 'from above and scoop' method :lol:

The stamping is becoming less and less frequent, and they have had some little chunks of carrot that I scattered in there too. They are currently lying nose to nose (literally touching) with Nigel in the litter tray and Gladys stretched right out on the sheet. :love:

I'm going to sleep down here tonight though, just to make sure everything is ok with them :)

Edit: She is grooming her dewlap a lot though, my only other experience of a female bun is Doris and she doesn't have one to groom, is this normal. By a lot I mean every 10 minutes or so. I get the feeling that she really wants to groom Nigel though, could it be a kind of 'referred grooming'?

Siona
09-04-2008, 01:50 AM
*we have a happy bunny flop* Nigel just fell upside down in the litter tray, which must be a good sign! :D

Liz1966
09-04-2008, 09:21 AM
It's going well by the sound of it. I'm looking forward to the pics:D

Siona
09-04-2008, 12:39 PM
Just found a lump of fur with a little bit of skin and blood about 3mm by 2mm on it, but because they are identical I can't tell which one it came from!:shock:

Siona
09-04-2008, 12:46 PM
After a night together with very little sleep (me) and very little activity (them) they were lying together nose to nose and they seemed very happy.
I moved the run outside to another neutral spot and they were still doing ok.
There was a little bit of thumping and fur pulling but no fighting, thats what I can't understand.
The fur is coarse, so it's back fur. Could it be from one scrambling over the other?
What is the risk of infection?
I can't find the cut site, I'm so worried, my poor bunnies! :cry:

On the up side, we have a huge pile of hay all eaten, two different types of poops and wees. :)

Jack's-Jane
09-04-2008, 12:48 PM
Have a good check over both of them. If one has been doing lots of humping have a look for a wound around the scruff of the one being humped.
The next place to check is around their backsides

Janex

Bavarian Bunny
09-04-2008, 12:49 PM
They sometimes nip the other when they are trying to pull fur. You should be able to find a small crust on one of them, most likely on the rear end of their back. If they are calm and friendly with each other most of the time, I would not worry about it. These little wounds normally heal well without any treatment.

Jack's-Jane
09-04-2008, 12:50 PM
Edit: She is grooming her dewlap a lot though, my only other experience of a female bun is Doris and she doesn't have one to groom, is this normal. By a lot I mean every 10 minutes or so. I get the feeling that she really wants to groom Nigel though, could it be a kind of 'referred grooming'?


Just seen this, also check around her neck/dewlap for an injury, including under her chin

Janex

maisydaisystar
09-04-2008, 12:52 PM
i have just bonded tilly with milo, and there has been fur pulling too, milo mounts tilly (less frequently after being in a week together) and he pulls out fur on her back, so her fur is thinner there now, and the first night in the hutch together I found a massive clump of milo's (a huge handful) but could not tell where it came from on him at all as he looked no different, but he was fine, and I haven't seen any more since.
Milo is now mounting Tilly less and less, so hoping she won't lose too much more fur.
They are inlove, to me it sounds like yours are too.
x

Siona
09-04-2008, 01:17 PM
Have a good check over both of them. If one has been doing lots of humping have a look for a wound around the scruff of the one being humped.
The next place to check is around their backsides

Janex

THeir fur is soo thick I literally cannot see their skin! I've felt as best I can, and checked underneath both of them to make sure no 'delicate' parts were injured. :shock:
I don't want to upset them too much by pulling them about so I'll have another look in a little while. They both seem happy enough though.

Oddly enough, they haven't been humping. At all. Not even once. They chase round and round a bit but most of the time she tries to lie flat under his chin. :)

elve
09-04-2008, 01:29 PM
another good way to split them up if they do decide to fight in a bit, is pop a washing basket over one of them (also a good way to catch a runaway bunny half way across the garden :lol:)

charlie82
09-04-2008, 01:29 PM
Have you checked both of them underneath i.e flipped them over?? I think if the skin was 2mm by 3mm your wound is going to actually be bigger than that. When Phoebe was bitten last week the skin that came off was only 2cm by 1cm (I say only because in comparison to the hole she had that was nothing-it was still a lot of skin for a little bun) her wound was 3 inches long by about two inches wide. I would just double check to be on the safe side. The rabbit that had bitten Phoebe I could only find one tiny bit of fur that had a thin outer layer of skin on, but it didn't cause a wound...do you think that's what could have happened with your bunny?

Siona
09-04-2008, 01:56 PM
Have you checked both of them underneath i.e flipped them over?? I think if the skin was 2mm by 3mm your wound is going to actually be bigger than that. When Phoebe was bitten last week the skin that came off was only 2cm by 1cm (I say only because in comparison to the hole she had that was nothing-it was still a lot of skin for a little bun) her wound was 3 inches long by about two inches wide. I would just double check to be on the safe side. The rabbit that had bitten Phoebe I could only find one tiny bit of fur that had a thin outer layer of skin on, but it didn't cause a wound...do you think that's what could have happened with your bunny?

Eeeek! Now I'm scared! I'll check again :shock:

charlie82
09-04-2008, 02:00 PM
Eeeek! Now I'm scared! I'll check again :shock:

Sorry I think I was just being over cautious.... If your bunny had a wound that big you certainly wouldn't miss it :roll:

Check their legs too and abdomen area. Sure it's nothing to worry about. I nicked my rabbit with the scissors once on his thigh whilst giving him a trim and had to have that glued. If it's a small wound on the neck or rump area it should be fine to heal on it's own because the skin is thicker there. My bunnies always seem to end up injured in places where the skin is very tight but needs to be able to move freely...:roll:

Hugo's There
09-04-2008, 02:22 PM
It is so hard to find bunny bites, sometimes you don't even realise they have been hurt until you find the scab a couple of days later.

If you can't find it today, check again over the next couple of days as you may have a better chance of finding it when it's dried up a bit. You will then be able to see if it's healing ok. Not ideal I know but with so much bunny fur they are easy to miss.

Hope the bonding continues to go well :D

Siona
09-04-2008, 02:23 PM
Ok, so I checked Gladys all over, and found bald patches around her bottom. THere were a couple of larger ones where such a large chunk of fur had been pulled that the skin had come away too, but only a thin layer. I think this was where there were matts and they got pulled out.

I rang Karen from ARC and she reassured me that she wasn't going to get gangrene and her bum fall off! :shock:
It's not bleeding or even weeping so I think it's fine. I'll check later and see whether it needs cleaning or disinfecting, but I'm reluctant right now because of adding another strange smell.

So far all is calm *touch wood*. Any ideas how long the average bonding takes?

Hugo's There
09-04-2008, 02:24 PM
Sounds like she'll be fine. They heal really quickly.

Bonding times vary, my last trio took 6 weeks, but some can be done in a day, sounds like your two are doing ok.

Siona
09-04-2008, 02:54 PM
THat sounds good. THey are spending most of their time lying about a foot or so apart nibbling hay, not necessarily paying attention to one another.

> Elve: I checked her dewlap and it's fine :)

Lauralou
09-04-2008, 03:20 PM
another good way to split them up if they do decide to fight in a bit, is pop a washing basket over one of them (also a good way to catch a runaway bunny half way across the garden :lol:)

i can just see you running down the garden, flying through the air with a washing basket and landing on a runaway rabbit! :lol:

Siona
09-04-2008, 09:43 PM
Nigel is being a proper grumpy bum. She's trying her best to snuggle with him and lying right under his chin. He's just ignoring her and carrying on eating hay! He won't acknowledge her at all!

On the up side he's not hurting her, no pulling fur anymore, but there's no love.... :(

AlisonA
09-04-2008, 09:46 PM
Sounds like it's going brilliantly! If they are that close to each other without scrapping then that's really promising. If she is laying under his chin, she may be trying to tell him that she's in charge and trying to get him to groom her. By ignoring her, he's saying that he's not going to give into the lady too easily :lol: It can take up to several weeks, at least several days, before you are likely to see *proper* love so don't panic that one is ignoring the other, it's perfectly normal.

Siona
09-04-2008, 09:59 PM
Just as I finished posting, she crept up and tried to hump him for the first time :shock: that started a tussle and more fur flew. These are HUGE clumps. Are they kicked out? I don't think they are bitten. If it doesn't stop they are going to go bald! :shock:
They aren't hurt but some of the patches are as big as 10p's when you pull the fur back! *sore*

I've heard of putting stuff on their heads to promote grooming, is it honey? Or is this a last ditch attempt?

clairen
09-04-2008, 10:12 PM
Your poor nerves must be shot, it's horrible watching them scuffle, isn't it? I understand that fur loss (while looks horrid), is absolutely fine during the bonding period providing the 'scuffles' don't involve the rabbits locking onto one another (from experience this has involved flying at one another, jawlocks, clinging onto each others sides and whirling around). Chasing, fur pulling and nipping all ok as long as there is no full on fighting. My two are with their new partners at the mo, since the weather got nice the female of one pair has been humping, circling and fur pullling like there's no tomorrow :roll: . Good luck, you are doing fine, Claire

janice
09-04-2008, 10:43 PM
Just as I finished posting, she crept up and tried to hump him for the first time :shock: that started a tussle and more fur flew. These are HUGE clumps. Are they kicked out? I don't think they are bitten. If it doesn't stop they are going to go bald! :shock:
They aren't hurt but some of the patches are as big as 10p's when you pull the fur back! *sore*

I've heard of putting stuff on their heads to promote grooming, is it honey? Or is this a last ditch attempt?

Big clumps of fur is often normal, do not worry.

I have only just spotted this thread, I would try and keep them in the same place for a good few days without moving them about, moving them just confuses them, let them get to know each other in one place and then slowly extend the space they have.

Siona
09-04-2008, 11:51 PM
I'll keep them inside from now on then. :) I bought them a bag of Excel Herbage today to take their minds off it and they haven't stopped munching! It's full of dried dandelion flowers and smells lovely! :D

janice
10-04-2008, 12:03 AM
I'll keep them inside from now on then. :) I bought them a bag of Excel Herbage today to take their minds off it and they haven't stopped munching! It's full of dried dandelion flowers and smells lovely! :D

You will get there in the end, just perservere and it will all settle down. Just keep everything the same from day to day for now, once you feel that they have settled then give them more space slowly. At this stage I usually dont feed them as I would normally, I keep providing tit bits including their pellets spread over the period of a day. I sprinkle everything rather than use a bowl.

Siona
10-04-2008, 12:14 AM
You will get there in the end, just perservere and it will all settle down. Just keep everything the same from day to day for now, once you feel that they have settled then give them more space slowly. At this stage I usually dont feed them as I would normally, I keep providing tit bits including their pellets spread over the period of a day. I sprinkle everything rather than use a bowl.

Yeah I have been sprinkling everything and dropping in little bits of treats every now and then too. I think they'll be fine. *touch wood*

Thanks everyone for your help and advice! :wave: It's so nerve wracking at this time, every thump might be an injury! :shock:

Siona
10-04-2008, 01:00 PM
They are snuggled together today and Nigel keeps cleaning her ears and head :love:
I caught him doing it this morning and he did a big bunny flop after! :D

I slept next to the run and it was a very quiet to night too :)