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Fifibutton
21-03-2008, 09:22 PM
I used to hear from my vet, at uni and even some pet shops that lop rabbits are prone to more health problems (like malocclusion, respiration etc) than straight eared buns. But I've noticed a lot of you have lops so I wondered if those of you experienced in lops could tell me it if is a myth or not.

thistle
21-03-2008, 09:26 PM
All 4 buns that I have had have been lops and I have never had a problem. Though that could be more down to luck than anything else.

The Duchess
21-03-2008, 09:31 PM
I believe it to be true in particular with relation to dental problems. Myself and my friends with lops have experienced more problems with dentals than with any of the uppy eared buns. In fact, while I think about it, it has been all of my lops that have been to the vets for special treatment since I have cared for them (except on case of stasis in my dutchie cross).

This may be because of all of my bunnies having been from rescues of course but who knows.

I know that my very bunny savvy vet believes this to be the case.

It wouldn't put me off having more lops though thats for sure.

Tamsin
21-03-2008, 09:35 PM
It's more related to the shape of their faces than their ears. Lops tend to have shorter jaws and flatter noses where as up-eared rabbit generally have a more natural rabbit head shape. The teeth problems occur when the teeth don't wear evenly and the abnormal head/jaw shape contributes to that. Netherlands are another breeds that's more prone to teeth problem - again because of their flatter faces.

That's not to say all lops have problems and all up-ears are fine. A lots to do with breeding. Pet shop bunnies are often breed to look cute and mass produced so there is less care taken over making sure the family history is free from teeth problems.

Tamsin

abbymarysmokey
21-03-2008, 11:49 PM
I've heard that about lops too, but TBH I'm not sure if it's true :?

A cross between an up-ear bun and a lop can apparently cause slight skull deformities, and therefore teeth problems.

The worst malloclusion I've seen has been in dutch crosses.

I'd have to say that my short faced lops do seem to suffer more eye trouble than my other rabbits...perhaps because the short face causes the teeth to press on the tear ducts?

ZakuraRabbit
22-03-2008, 12:30 AM
Malloclusion is genetic and not necessarily linked to the rabbit's breed. But seeing as lop-rabbits are very popular "low quality" animals tend to be used in breeding simply to get more of them, spreading bad genes as well as good ones. :cry:

RusselRocky
22-03-2008, 12:33 AM
No *touch wood* I have been lucky with all my buns (I have 2 Nethies and one Mini lop) I notice my lop is lazier but not got worse health... Is also greedier... (He runs in circles when food arrives when Billy sits and watches all Lucy can manage is a head bob :lol:) Sorry am yarning on... Tut tut it was that wine!!

Sooz
22-03-2008, 02:16 AM
I think they do, 4 of my 5 lops have had dental problems, 2 also suffer with pasteurella, 1 with UTI's and one lost an eye to a retrobulbar abcess.

Becki xX
22-03-2008, 02:22 AM
Hmm could be coincidence but I have had more vet trips with my lops than non-lops X

CRBevis
22-03-2008, 03:02 AM
Bunnies a nearly 3 year old Mini lop and 2 weeks ago the vet said her teeth are perfect, she's not a great hay eater which is why we give her Oxbow Timothy hay!:)

Fifibutton
22-03-2008, 07:11 PM
Thank's guys. I've never had a lop so haven't got a clue obviously. I did wonder if the shape of the face affected the health but I supppose it depends on the rabbit's genes as you say. :censored: Bad breeders.

kimd6200
22-03-2008, 07:42 PM
ive never had trouble with lops but ive never had any other type.x

donnamt
22-03-2008, 07:51 PM
not yet, but alvin is only 10 months old....i read they are more likely to get ear mites too cus of how the ears are nice and snug for bugs :evil:

i hope alvin dosent have too many bad genes floating about in him :shock:

bunnyhopper
22-03-2008, 08:51 PM
I had a deaf lop once. He was super friendly and nothing noisy ever bothered him, and fireworks week he didn't bat an eyelid. (Not like my buns now who hate them.)
I did make him jump though sometimes if he didn't see me coming.
I think deafness is more of a prob in lops than uppy eared buns.

cashmincal
22-03-2008, 10:25 PM
I hate to say this, but I think that badly bred Netherland Dwarfs tend to have problems too :( I've had a couple of pet Netherland Dwarfs in the past, and they had problems with their teeth :( I have to say, they where not bought from people who showed their rabbits, just someone who bred them for sale :( I was only young when I had them, but they where lovely rabbits.

Jayms_fallen_angel
23-03-2008, 03:57 AM
i have spoken tp my sister who has both lops and none lops and she says she has heard that too but has not noticed any differance in the health of her rabbits

Sooz
23-03-2008, 12:22 PM
I hate to say this, but I think that badly bred Netherland Dwarfs tend to have problems too :( I've had a couple of pet Netherland Dwarfs in the past, and they had problems with their teeth :( I have to say, they where not bought from people who showed their rabbits, just someone who bred them for sale :( I was only young when I had them, but they where lovely rabbits.

Nethies are the only breed that seem to have inherant primary maloclausion of the incisors. Other breeds seem to develop Incisoral maloclausion secondary to molar issues.

rabbitmum
23-03-2008, 06:31 PM
Hmm could be coincidence but I have had more vet trips with my lops than non-lops X


Same here too...

MaxiandScottandbuns
23-03-2008, 09:29 PM
Both of our bridge buns were lops and suffered with endless serious health problems, but then they did come from horrendous conditions:( Weve only ever had a big problem with one of our up-eared buns, but theyve been in our care since they were babies